Re: [fossil-users] DRH's PGCon 2014 Keynote (with Fossil sighting!)
Thus said B Harder on Sun, 01 Jun 2014 22:42:39 -0700: I think drh unnecessarily missed an opportunity there. He seemed to work harder to obfuscate what fossil actually was than giving a single passing description and moving on with his talk about SQL and using fossil by name where it's used as an example. He highlighted all the benefits that a SQLite backed Git might have and then refered them to a live demo: http://www.sqlite.org/postgresql Without knowing the audience I would think this should be sufficient advertising. Andy -- TAI64 timestamp: 4000538c1337 ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] DRH's PGCon 2014 Keynote (with Fossil sighting!)
At 28:18 drh suggests that key/value pair engines will not stand the test of time. Isn't sqlite4 going to be a key/value engine? On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Andy Bradford amb-fos...@bradfords.org wrote: Thus said B Harder on Sun, 01 Jun 2014 22:42:39 -0700: I think drh unnecessarily missed an opportunity there. He seemed to work harder to obfuscate what fossil actually was than giving a single passing description and moving on with his talk about SQL and using fossil by name where it's used as an example. He highlighted all the benefits that a SQLite backed Git might have and then refered them to a live demo: http://www.sqlite.org/postgresql Without knowing the audience I would think this should be sufficient advertising. Andy -- TAI64 timestamp: 4000538c1337 ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users -- ˙uʍop-ǝpısdn sı ɹoʇıuoɯ ɹnoʎ 'sıɥʇ pɐǝɹ uɐɔ noʎ ɟı ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] DRH's PGCon 2014 Keynote (with Fossil sighting!)
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Baruch Burstein bmburst...@gmail.com wrote: At 28:18 drh suggests that key/value pair engines will not stand the test of time. Isn't sqlite4 going to be a key/value engine? Every SQL database engine has a key/value storage engine underneath. The point is not the underlying storage technology but rather what is seen by the application. -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] DRH's PGCon 2014 Keynote (with Fossil sighting!)
DOH! Ah well, usually it was S-Q-L. :) On Jun 2, 2014 10:00 AM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 5:10 AM, Scott Robison sc...@casaderobison.com wrote: Thanks for sharing that. And it was good to hear an entire presentation about SQL without once (that I can recall) hearing it pronounced sequel. :) Sorry, Scott: @ 4:41s -- - stephan beal http://wanderinghorse.net/home/stephan/ http://gplus.to/sgbeal Freedom is sloppy. But since tyranny's the only guaranteed byproduct of those who insist on a perfect world, freedom will have to do. -- Bigby Wolf ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] DRH's PGCon 2014 Keynote (with Fossil sighting!)
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Scott Robison sc...@casaderobison.com wrote: DOH! Ah well, usually it was S-Q-L. :) To be fair, though, he only did it (once) in the context of the MS product named SQL Server, and if i'm not mistaken that how MS says it. -- - stephan beal http://wanderinghorse.net/home/stephan/ http://gplus.to/sgbeal Freedom is sloppy. But since tyranny's the only guaranteed byproduct of those who insist on a perfect world, freedom will have to do. -- Bigby Wolf ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] DRH's PGCon 2014 Keynote (with Fossil sighting!)
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Scott Robison sc...@casaderobison.com wrote: DOH! Ah well, usually it was S-Q-L. :) To be fair, though, he only did it (once) in the context of the MS product named SQL Server, and if i'm not mistaken that how MS says it. FWIW, the IT people at my office call MS SQL Server sequel sever and the Oracle server Oracle SQL (or just Oracle). (As I understand it, sequel server is the backend for the Sharepoint server and Oracle SQL is the backend for the SAP Enterprise Document Management System.) ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
[fossil-users] DRH's PGCon 2014 Keynote (with Fossil sighting!)
I just wanted to share Richard's PGCon 2014 keynote for anyone here that wasn't aware of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvmMzI0X7fE It's a great talk about the historical relationship between SQLite and PostgreSQL as well as a celebration of the usefulness of SQL. Richard goes through several specific examples of how SQLite is currently or could potentially be used as a superior application file format to a pile of files. He also throws in a dig at NoSQL databases that anyone who appreciates both SQL and the general concept of truth will find highly amusing. Near the end of the speech (around the 32:30 mark), a certain unnamed SQL-based SCM makes a special appearance (spoiler alert: it's Fossil). Thanks, Richard, and everyone else, enjoy! ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] DRH's PGCon 2014 Keynote (with Fossil sighting!)
On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Joel Bruick j...@joelface.com wrote: I just wanted to share Richard's PGCon 2014 keynote for anyone here that wasn't aware of it: Thanks for sharing that. And it was good to hear an entire presentation about SQL without once (that I can recall) hearing it pronounced sequel. :) ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] DRH's PGCon 2014 Keynote (with Fossil sighting!)
I think drh unnecessarily missed an opportunity there. He seemed to work harder to obfuscate what fossil actually was than giving a single passing description and moving on with his talk about SQL and using fossil by name where it's used as an example. Otherwise, interesting talk! On Jun 1, 2014 8:10 PM, Scott Robison sc...@casaderobison.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Joel Bruick j...@joelface.com wrote: I just wanted to share Richard's PGCon 2014 keynote for anyone here that wasn't aware of it: Thanks for sharing that. And it was good to hear an entire presentation about SQL without once (that I can recall) hearing it pronounced sequel. :) ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users