Re: [fossil-users] DRH's PGCon 2014 Keynote (with Fossil sighting!)

2014-06-02 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said B Harder on Sun, 01 Jun 2014 22:42:39 -0700:

 I think  drh unnecessarily missed  an opportunity there. He  seemed to
 work harder to obfuscate what fossil actually was than giving a single
 passing description  and moving on with  his talk about SQL  and using
 fossil by name where it's used as an example.

He highlighted all the benefits that  a SQLite backed Git might have and
then refered them to a live demo:

http://www.sqlite.org/postgresql

Without knowing  the audience  I would think  this should  be sufficient
advertising.

Andy
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Re: [fossil-users] DRH's PGCon 2014 Keynote (with Fossil sighting!)

2014-06-02 Thread Baruch Burstein
At 28:18 drh suggests that key/value pair engines will not stand the test
of time. Isn't sqlite4 going to be a key/value engine?


On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Andy Bradford amb-fos...@bradfords.org
wrote:

 Thus said B Harder on Sun, 01 Jun 2014 22:42:39 -0700:

  I think  drh unnecessarily missed  an opportunity there. He  seemed to
  work harder to obfuscate what fossil actually was than giving a single
  passing description  and moving on with  his talk about SQL  and using
  fossil by name where it's used as an example.

 He highlighted all the benefits that  a SQLite backed Git might have and
 then refered them to a live demo:

 http://www.sqlite.org/postgresql

 Without knowing  the audience  I would think  this should  be sufficient
 advertising.

 Andy
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Re: [fossil-users] DRH's PGCon 2014 Keynote (with Fossil sighting!)

2014-06-02 Thread Richard Hipp
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Baruch Burstein bmburst...@gmail.com
wrote:

 At 28:18 drh suggests that key/value pair engines will not stand the test
 of time. Isn't sqlite4 going to be a key/value engine?


Every SQL database engine has a key/value storage engine underneath.  The
point is not the underlying storage technology but rather what is seen by
the application.

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Re: [fossil-users] DRH's PGCon 2014 Keynote (with Fossil sighting!)

2014-06-02 Thread Scott Robison
DOH! Ah well, usually it was S-Q-L. :)
On Jun 2, 2014 10:00 AM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 5:10 AM, Scott Robison sc...@casaderobison.com
 wrote:

 Thanks for sharing that. And it was good to hear an entire presentation
 about SQL without once (that I can recall) hearing it pronounced sequel.
 :)


 Sorry, Scott: @ 4:41s


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Re: [fossil-users] DRH's PGCon 2014 Keynote (with Fossil sighting!)

2014-06-02 Thread Stephan Beal
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Scott Robison sc...@casaderobison.com
wrote:

 DOH! Ah well, usually it was S-Q-L. :)


To be fair, though, he only did it (once) in the context of the MS product
named SQL Server, and if i'm not mistaken that how MS says it.

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Re: [fossil-users] DRH's PGCon 2014 Keynote (with Fossil sighting!)

2014-06-02 Thread Ron Wilson
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote:

   On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Scott Robison sc...@casaderobison.com
 wrote:

 DOH! Ah well, usually it was S-Q-L. :)


 To be fair, though, he only did it (once) in the context of the MS product
 named SQL Server, and if i'm not mistaken that how MS says it.


FWIW, the IT people at my office call MS SQL Server sequel sever and the
Oracle server Oracle SQL (or just Oracle). (As I understand it, sequel
server is the backend for the Sharepoint server and Oracle SQL is the
backend for the SAP Enterprise Document Management System.)
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[fossil-users] DRH's PGCon 2014 Keynote (with Fossil sighting!)

2014-06-01 Thread Joel Bruick
I just wanted to share Richard's PGCon 2014 keynote for anyone here that 
wasn't aware of it:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvmMzI0X7fE

It's a great talk about the historical relationship between SQLite and 
PostgreSQL as well as a celebration of the usefulness of SQL. Richard 
goes through several specific examples of how SQLite is currently or 
could potentially be used as a superior application file format to a 
pile of files. He also throws in a dig at NoSQL databases that anyone 
who appreciates both SQL and the general concept of truth will find 
highly amusing.


Near the end of the speech (around the 32:30 mark), a certain unnamed 
SQL-based SCM makes a special appearance (spoiler alert: it's Fossil).


Thanks, Richard, and everyone else, enjoy!
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Re: [fossil-users] DRH's PGCon 2014 Keynote (with Fossil sighting!)

2014-06-01 Thread Scott Robison
On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Joel Bruick j...@joelface.com wrote:

 I just wanted to share Richard's PGCon 2014 keynote for anyone here that
 wasn't aware of it:


Thanks for sharing that. And it was good to hear an entire presentation
about SQL without once (that I can recall) hearing it pronounced sequel.
:)
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Re: [fossil-users] DRH's PGCon 2014 Keynote (with Fossil sighting!)

2014-06-01 Thread B Harder
I think drh unnecessarily missed an opportunity there. He seemed to work
harder to obfuscate what fossil actually was than giving a single passing
description and moving on with his talk about SQL and using fossil by name
where it's used as an example.

Otherwise, interesting talk!
On Jun 1, 2014 8:10 PM, Scott Robison sc...@casaderobison.com wrote:

 On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Joel Bruick j...@joelface.com wrote:

 I just wanted to share Richard's PGCon 2014 keynote for anyone here that
 wasn't aware of it:


 Thanks for sharing that. And it was good to hear an entire presentation
 about SQL without once (that I can recall) hearing it pronounced sequel.
 :)

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