Re: [fossil-users] How can I determine if a repository has actually changed?

2012-03-22 Thread Ron Aaron
OK, I've come up with a small bash script to get an 'id' which I can use
to detect changes in a repo.  Save the following to fossilid and make
it executable:

if [ ! -f $1 ]
then
echo fossilid needs the name of the repository to 'id'
exit 1
fi

configsha=`fossil config export all -R $2 - | grep -v '^#' | fossil sha
- | cut -d' ' -f1`
logsha=`fossil timeline -n 10 -R $1 | fossil sha - | cut -d' ' -f1`

echo $configsha $logsha


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Re: [fossil-users] How can I determine if a repository has actually changed?

2012-03-22 Thread Ron Aaron
Sorry, the $2 needs to be a $1 -- that was a finger-flub on my part

On 03/22/2012 09:13 AM, Ron Aaron wrote:
 OK, I've come up with a small bash script to get an 'id' which I can use
 to detect changes in a repo.  Save the following to fossilid and make
 it executable:

 if [ ! -f $1 ]
 then
 echo fossilid needs the name of the repository to 'id'
 exit 1
 fi

 configsha=`fossil config export all -R $2 - | grep -v '^#' | fossil sha
 - | cut -d' ' -f1`
 logsha=`fossil timeline -n 10 -R $1 | fossil sha - | cut -d' ' -f1`

 echo $configsha $logsha


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[fossil-users] How can I determine if a repository has actually changed?

2012-03-21 Thread Ron Aaron
I've got a bunch of Fossil repositories which I back up by doing:

fossil pull
fossil config pull all


I am now also encrypting the repos after backing up, and putting the
encrypted files on Ubuntu One for off-site failsafe backup.

The problem I am trying to solve is that I do NOT want to synchronize
a repo which has not changed; that is, I do not want to update the
encrypted file in the Ubuntu One sync folder -- since that is wasteful
of my bandwidth for no purpose.

What I had *hoped* would work, was to do fossil sha on the
repositories, and fossil sha again after the sync, and only copy files
whose SHA1 sums are different, thus minimizing both my processing time
and the network bandwidth.

Unfortunately, my current testing shows that doing the fossil pull;
fossil config pull all modifies the repository even when I know for
sure that there are no actual changes since the last sync.

What would you recommend as a method for accomplishing what I am trying
to do?

Thanks
Ron
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Re: [fossil-users] How can I determine if a repository has actually changed?

2012-03-21 Thread Stephan Beal
You can place the fsl files directly in your ubuntu1 folder (or dropbox,
or whatever) and serve them from there.

- stephan beal
http://wanderinghorse.net/home/stephan/
http://gplus.to/sgbeal
On Mar 21, 2012 5:02 PM, Ron Aaron r...@ronware.org wrote:

 I've got a bunch of Fossil repositories which I back up by doing:

 fossil pull
 fossil config pull all


 I am now also encrypting the repos after backing up, and putting the
 encrypted files on Ubuntu One for off-site failsafe backup.

 The problem I am trying to solve is that I do NOT want to synchronize
 a repo which has not changed; that is, I do not want to update the
 encrypted file in the Ubuntu One sync folder -- since that is wasteful
 of my bandwidth for no purpose.

 What I had *hoped* would work, was to do fossil sha on the
 repositories, and fossil sha again after the sync, and only copy files
 whose SHA1 sums are different, thus minimizing both my processing time
 and the network bandwidth.

 Unfortunately, my current testing shows that doing the fossil pull;
 fossil config pull all modifies the repository even when I know for
 sure that there are no actual changes since the last sync.

 What would you recommend as a method for accomplishing what I am trying
 to do?

 Thanks
 Ron
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Re: [fossil-users] How can I determine if a repository has actually changed?

2012-03-21 Thread Ron Aaron
Certainly I could, but that means that my fsl files are put there as-is,
and I want them encrypted before putting up there.  It also means that
the fsl files will always be synched, even if nothing actually changes,
which is what I want to avoid.

On 03/21/2012 06:32 PM, Stephan Beal wrote:

 You can place the fsl files directly in your ubuntu1 folder (or
 dropbox,  or whatever) and serve them from there.

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Re: [fossil-users] How can I determine if a repository has actually changed?

2012-03-21 Thread Leo Razoumov
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 13:25, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote:

 i don't know about Ubuntu1, but dropbox synchronizes only the bytes which
 changed, so the sync is really fast. There is, however, still a couple
 caveats with this approach (sorry for my brevity earlier - i was on my
 phone):


True, but does not help if your file is encrypted. You change a single
byte of your plain-text-file and your encrypted version changes
entirely.

--Leo--
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Re: [fossil-users] How can I determine if a repository has actually changed?

2012-03-21 Thread Leo Razoumov
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 14:53, Ron Aaron r...@ronware.org wrote:
 On 03/21/2012 08:06 PM, Leo Razoumov wrote:
 True, but does not help if your file is encrypted. You change a single
 byte of your plain-text-file and your encrypted version changes
 entirely.

 Precisely so.  And I don't want to encrypt and synch the file, unless it
 has changed in a meaningful way (e.g. not just some synch timestamp inside)

Poor man's way of figuring it out is to capture the output from fossil
pull (or fossil push) command, parse it and if all numbers of
transfered artifacts and deltas are zero than nothing changed.

--Leo--
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Re: [fossil-users] How can I determine if a repository has actually changed?

2012-03-21 Thread Ron Aaron
On 03/21/2012 09:18 PM, Leo Razoumov wrote:
 Poor man's way of figuring it out is to capture the output from fossil
 pull (or fossil push) command, parse it and if all numbers of
 transfered artifacts and deltas are zero than nothing changed.

That will not work in this case, because I do not do the external save
all the time.  That is to say, that the encrypted off-site files are
only updated periodically, while the fossil repos they are made from are
updated possibly often.

So what I am looking for is a way to take a 'snapshot' of a repo, and
determine if the new version of that repo is actually different, even
though I may have done multiple pulls in between checks.

I hope I'm explaning what I want to do sufficiently well...

The main reason for these contortions is that I don't want to send a
500M file over my limited bandwidth if I don't need to.
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Re: [fossil-users] How can I determine if a repository has actually changed?

2012-03-21 Thread Leo Razoumov
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 17:17, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Ron Aaron r...@ronware.org wrote:

 So what I am looking for is a way to take a 'snapshot' of a repo, and
 determine if the new version of that repo is actually different, even
 though I may have done multiple pulls in between checks.


 Doesn't the timeline reveal if anything meaningful was changed? Could you
 not query the timeline (e.g. via scripting fossil json timeline...)?


I think this is the winner. I cannot thing of any (non pathologically
esoteric) cases when a repo changes but the
last 20 commits stay the same.

--Leo--
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Re: [fossil-users] How can I determine if a repository has actually changed?

2012-03-21 Thread altufaltu
Any changes in configuration will not show-up in timeline.

 - Original Message -
 From: Leo Razoumov
 Sent: 03/22/12 02:54 AM
 To: Fossil SCM user's discussion
 Subject: Re: [fossil-users] How can I determine if a repository has actually  
 changed?
 
 On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 17:17, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote:
  On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Ron Aaron r...@ronware.org wrote:
 
  So what I am looking for is a way to take a 'snapshot' of a repo, and
  determine if the new version of that repo is actually different, even
  though I may have done multiple pulls in between checks.
 
 
  Doesn't the timeline reveal if anything meaningful was changed? Could you
  not query the timeline (e.g. via scripting fossil json timeline...)?
 
 
 I think this is the winner. I cannot thing of any (non pathologically
 esoteric) cases when a repo changes but the
 last 20 commits stay the same.
 
 --Leo--
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