Re: [Foundation-l] IRC office hours with Sue Gardner
Hi everyone: Just a reminder of this. :-) Starts in about 90 minutes. ___ Philippe Beaudette Director, Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643 phili...@wikimedia.org On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Philippe Beaudette phili...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Hi everyone, On Monday at 18:30 UTC, Sue will be having office hours. As usual, it's in #wikimedia-office. Check local date and time here: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=18min=30sec=0day=12month=3year=2012 . All the usual details are at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours. Hope to see you there! ___ Philippe Beaudette Director, Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643 phili...@wikimedia.org ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia financials - bank fees
I'm not in accounting, but my guess is that this involves Paypal processing fees for the fundraiser... pb ___ Philippe Beaudette Director, Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643 phili...@wikimedia.org On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 9:38 PM, En Pine deyntest...@hotmail.com wrote: I notice that the financial report at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Highlights,_February_2012 says something about “higher bank fees ($42K)”. Has anyone taken a hard look at these fees to see if WMF could organize its utilization of bank services in such a way that it can lower this expense, including the possibility of moving the WMF’s bank account(s) to one or more different financial institutions? $42k seems like a very large amount of money for a nonprofit such as WMF to spend on bank fees in a single month. I can speculate that the definition of bank fee might include things like currency conversion fees, but even so, $42k seems like a lot. Pine ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] IRC office hours with Sue Gardner
Hi everyone, On Monday at 18:30 UTC, Sue will be having office hours. As usual, it's in #wikimedia-office. Check local date and time here: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=18min=30sec=0day=12month=3year=2012 . All the usual details are at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours . Hope to see you there! ___ Philippe Beaudette Director, Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643 phili...@wikimedia.org ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] My public aplogies to Jan-Bart (was Movement roles letter, Feb 2012)
Agreed. As one of those whose name is frequently butchered due to our medium of communications (who knows how I want it pronounced until/unless you meet me or someone who's met me?), the criteria I use in judging offense is Has this person ever been told by me how I prefer to be addressed? If not, then see step 1. If so, a mild reminder is in order. The mild reminders tend to escalate. After the point of reminder, common courtesy dictates extra care on the part of the person referring to you. My friend Aphaia did this very kindly with me years ago, and I have never gotten it wrong since, to my knowledge. An exception: I'll be damned if I'm writing out Oliver Keyes, God of Delphi, Sol, and all Ethereal Planes Known and As-Yet Undiscovered because I won't grant - in writing - my own claims to those ethereal planes. :-) pb ___ Philippe Beaudette Director, Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643 phili...@wikimedia.org To check my email volume (and thus know approx how long it will take me to respond), go to http://courteous.ly/hpQmqy On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote: I used to be really antsy over my name; to the point where, at school, I refused to be taught by one teach for a time because she kept calling me Tom. Nowadays even I call myself that. Surely normal social convention applies; if someone raises the issue then Don't be a dick and take extra care. Otherwise slip ups/confusion/mistakes shouldn't be the end of the world... Tom (P.S. it now wierds me out when people call me Thomas... go figure :)) ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcement: Building a new Legal and Community Advocacy Department Promotion of Philippe Beaudette
I think we'll be doing some combination of all three of those. But here's the important part: you tell us. I built out the brainstorming page: people are acting as though there's a determined course charted for this team - if anything, it's the opposite. This is the opportunity for the community to tell us how you'd like to be supported by this team. From the ground floor, help us design it. Tell us what will work best. Do we need more Maggies? Do we need someone to help us track issues of free culture? Maybe we don't, because the community has a process in place for that and we just don't know about it. Help us design the team, and its high level goals. We have what we THINK some of those will be (they're on the page, but I've pasted them here [1], also)... but we're open to the community's input - actually, we're begging for it. Edit this team, and edit this plan. :-) pb [1]- - * Maintaining a proactive online content-protection strategy, defending the written and media work of the community on the Projects through litigation and other means with the involvement of the community; * Ensuring increasing amounts and efficacy of global community participation in WMF-generated initiatives (such as revisions to WMF policies); * Setting up international meet-ups that recognize and support the role of administrators and functionaries, including brainstorming ways that WMF can better help these critical roles within our movement (e.g., Arbcoms, checkusers, OTRS, etc.); * Providing international legislative and policy support to the community, such as providing information about legislative issues of interest like global censorship laws; and * Creating and learning from a community-based advisory board, including implementation of support ideas that serve the advocacy interests of the community and Foundation. On Thu Feb 9 23:42:23 2012, Lodewijk wrote: I must say that after reading all this and the detailed page with the beautiful graphic I am still confused what the department will actually do. There are beautiful abstract goals which everybody would obviously agree with, and there are highly diverse skills involved from on one end Maggie and on the other extreme Geoff. All great. But I hope you can help me by summarizing in one or two sentences of mortal English what you will *do* everyday. Will you be the ones executing decisions from Legal? Will you be nutshelling community decisions and act like an ambassador to the Wikimedia Foundation? Will you be working on guiding the community involvement processes Geoff handled so well with the Terms of Use? Thanks, Lodewijk No dia 10 de Fevereiro de 2012 07:46, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.comescreveu: On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Casey Brown li...@caseybrown.org wrote: Advocacy is a much more general term in this context than people seem to be taking it as. It does not mean lobbying or fighting for something controversial with outside organizations. As I understand it, it's the opposite: advocating to the Wikimedia Foundation on behalf of the community. Yeah, that's my understanding of the game plan here as well. I think the announcement could have been clearer in that regard, but that's pretty much what Philippe and Maggie have already been doing, and what they'll continue to do in a structure that's set up for growth. Sometimes we have a tendency to speak in management lingo when we should be choosing simple, crisp clear terms. Honest feedback: Burn the chart on http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal_and_Community_Advocacy/LCA_Announcement and draft a super crisp mission statement to slap on the first page for this group. I know, I've been guilty of this as well -- no criticism of the team. When working in an organization this kind of communication style is often expected from you in day-to-day work, but it's not necessarily helpful when communicating with people who have very little time and interest to parse it. I think the brainstorming page is a great start and hope it'll be utilized and further advertised in coming days: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal/Community_Advocacy Congratulations to Philippe and Maggie for their new roles. I think it's about time that we're creating this structure, and I think it'll generate lots of tangible value for the community. Then my suggestion would be, rename the department. I completely agree, it is about time Philippe and Maggie get more authority and a dedicated department. I am happy for both of them. They actually do and have been doing the heavy lifting for years when it comes to the community. I would actually be more in favor of calling their department the community department. ;) Regards Theo ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:
Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcement: Building a new Legal and Community Advocacy Department Promotion of Philippe Beaudette
I'm not really sure where you get that, MZ. Politics and lobbying were not mentioned at all. What was mentioned was advocacy... advocacy for the community, in varying roles and flavors. So to clear it up: this is not a lobbying or political wing. Or anything that even resembles it. :) There's a reasonable discussion in the page, linked from the announcement. pb ___ Philippe Beaudette Director, Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643 phili...@wikimedia.org To check my email volume (and thus know approx how long it will take me to respond), go to http://courteous.ly/hpQmqy On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 6:08 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Geoff Brigham wrote: Today, we are excited to announce the start of our building of a new department called the ³Legal and Community Advocacy Department.² This new alignment recognizes that we can combine the best of legal and community advocacy to foster new ways to advance the interests of the community consistent with the goals and strategies of the Foundation. For details, please go to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal/LCA_Announcement. As part of this reorganization, I¹m pleased to announce that Philippe Beaudette has been promoted to Director of Community Advocacy. We will start engaging our community shortly and enter into a consultation period with it to brainstorm how to build the department. We anticipate that it will take us about 6-12 months to get the right team and drive the new department at full speed. The community is invited to join us on Friday for office hours to discuss the new Legal and Community Advocacy Department. Details for the IRC chat can be found at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours. A political (lobbying?) arm of Wikimedia? And the Wikimedia community and Board have said they're okay with this? MZMcBride ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcement: Building a new Legal and Community Advocacy Department Promotion of Philippe Beaudette
Obviously, we have some ideas - several of them are listed in the announcement page. However, one of the most exciting bits of this is that since it's a community advocacy department, we're asking you to help us define that. There's a page on meta (also linked from the announcement page), and an IRC chat tomorrow to kick that off. :) pb On Thu Feb 9 18:32:42 2012, Mono wrote: I think the better question is what will this department actually do? On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Philippe Beaudette phili...@wikimedia.orgwrote: I'm not really sure where you get that, MZ. Politics and lobbying were not mentioned at all. What was mentioned was advocacy... advocacy for the community, in varying roles and flavors. So to clear it up: this is not a lobbying or political wing. Or anything that even resembles it. :) There's a reasonable discussion in the page, linked from the announcement. pb ___ Philippe Beaudette Director, Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643 phili...@wikimedia.org To check my email volume (and thus know approx how long it will take me to respond), go to http://courteous.ly/hpQmqy On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 6:08 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Geoff Brigham wrote: Today, we are excited to announce the start of our building of a new department called the ³Legal and Community Advocacy Department.² This new alignment recognizes that we can combine the best of legal and community advocacy to foster new ways to advance the interests of the community consistent with the goals and strategies of the Foundation. For details, please go to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal/LCA_Announcement. As part of this reorganization, I¹m pleased to announce that Philippe Beaudette has been promoted to Director of Community Advocacy. We will start engaging our community shortly and enter into a consultation period with it to brainstorm how to build the department. We anticipate that it will take us about 6-12 months to get the right team and drive the new department at full speed. The community is invited to join us on Friday for office hours to discuss the new Legal and Community Advocacy Department. Details for the IRC chat can be found at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours. A political (lobbying?) arm of Wikimedia? And the Wikimedia community and Board have said they're okay with this? MZMcBride ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcement: Building a new Legal and Community Advocacy Department Promotion of Philippe Beaudette
Quite right, inasmuch as any of our jobs can work in that much of an insular fashion. We'll do quite a bit of dealing with the external community (defending takedown challenges, etc), but you're quite right that it's in a posture of focusing on the existing community. However, our hope is that through this, we can encourage further organic growth of the community, as well as protect the community that we have. pb On 2/9/12 6:35 PM, Liam Wyatt wrote: I'll admit that that's what I thought it meant when I read it too - that the WMF was setting up a congressional lobbying department. So it's not that an outrageous thing to assume. From the link it says that you will be (in part) focusing on ...seeking ways to increase capacity to safeguard the movement’s reputation and support the advancement of legal conditions that support our movement. but it also says that you'll be Setting up international meet-ups that recognize and support the role of administrators and functionaries, including brainstorming ways that WMF can better help these critical roles within our movement (e.g., Arbcoms, checkusers, OTRS, etc.). Finally, it also says This change will transfer the community liaison and advocate responsibilities to the Legal and Community Advocacy team. This move will allow Zack Exley, Chief Community Officer, and his team to focus on editor retention and recruitment work and fundraising strategy and implementation. From this I understand that the new department will be focused on the *existing* community (especially those with specialised roles within it) and also on the legal aspects of defending free-knowledge globally (such as helping Chapters to write submissions to Government policy reviews etc.). This will leave Zack's existing department to focus on recruiting new users and on the annual fundraiser. Is that a fair assessment? Peace, love metadata On 10 February 2012 13:23, Philippe Beaudette phili...@wikimedia.orgwrote: I'm not really sure where you get that, MZ. Politics and lobbying were not mentioned at all. What was mentioned was advocacy... advocacy for the community, in varying roles and flavors. So to clear it up: this is not a lobbying or political wing. Or anything that even resembles it. :) There's a reasonable discussion in the page, linked from the announcement. pb ___ Philippe Beaudette Director, Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643 phili...@wikimedia.org To check my email volume (and thus know approx how long it will take me to respond), go to http://courteous.ly/hpQmqy On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 6:08 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Geoff Brigham wrote: Today, we are excited to announce the start of our building of a new department called the ³Legal and Community Advocacy Department.² This new alignment recognizes that we can combine the best of legal and community advocacy to foster new ways to advance the interests of the community consistent with the goals and strategies of the Foundation. For details, please go to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal/LCA_Announcement. As part of this reorganization, I¹m pleased to announce that Philippe Beaudette has been promoted to Director of Community Advocacy. We will start engaging our community shortly and enter into a consultation period with it to brainstorm how to build the department. We anticipate that it will take us about 6-12 months to get the right team and drive the new department at full speed. The community is invited to join us on Friday for office hours to discuss the new Legal and Community Advocacy Department. Details for the IRC chat can be found at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours. A political (lobbying?) arm of Wikimedia? And the Wikimedia community and Board have said they're okay with this? MZMcBride ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcement: Building a new Legal and Community Advocacy Department Promotion of Philippe Beaudette
No, I report to Geoff. Geoff is the Chief for the legal and community advocacy department. I run the C.A. side of it. :-) On Thu Feb 9 18:48:34 2012, Theo10011 wrote: I believe Liam puts it very close to how I read the announcement. Does this mean Pb is a Chief now? or will that department still be under community/Zack? Also, how does the relation between legal come into this. Is Geoff also in charge of this department or is legal separate from this? And before I forget, Congratulations Pb! Regards Theo On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com wrote: I'll admit that that's what I thought it meant when I read it too - that the WMF was setting up a congressional lobbying department. So it's not that an outrageous thing to assume. From the link it says that you will be (in part) focusing on ...seeking ways to increase capacity to safeguard the movement’s reputation and support the advancement of legal conditions that support our movement. but it also says that you'll be Setting up international meet-ups that recognize and support the role of administrators and functionaries, including brainstorming ways that WMF can better help these critical roles within our movement (e.g., Arbcoms, checkusers, OTRS, etc.). Finally, it also says This change will transfer the community liaison and advocate responsibilities to the Legal and Community Advocacy team. This move will allow Zack Exley, Chief Community Officer, and his team to focus on editor retention and recruitment work and fundraising strategy and implementation. From this I understand that the new department will be focused on the *existing* community (especially those with specialised roles within it) and also on the legal aspects of defending free-knowledge globally (such as helping Chapters to write submissions to Government policy reviews etc.). This will leave Zack's existing department to focus on recruiting new users and on the annual fundraiser. Is that a fair assessment? Peace, love metadata On 10 February 2012 13:23, Philippe Beaudette phili...@wikimedia.org wrote: I'm not really sure where you get that, MZ. Politics and lobbying were not mentioned at all. What was mentioned was advocacy... advocacy for the community, in varying roles and flavors. So to clear it up: this is not a lobbying or political wing. Or anything that even resembles it. :) There's a reasonable discussion in the page, linked from the announcement. pb ___ Philippe Beaudette Director, Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643 phili...@wikimedia.org To check my email volume (and thus know approx how long it will take me to respond), go to http://courteous.ly/hpQmqy On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 6:08 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Geoff Brigham wrote: Today, we are excited to announce the start of our building of a new department called the ³Legal and Community Advocacy Department.² This new alignment recognizes that we can combine the best of legal and community advocacy to foster new ways to advance the interests of the community consistent with the goals and strategies of the Foundation. For details, please go to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal/LCA_Announcement. As part of this reorganization, I¹m pleased to announce that Philippe Beaudette has been promoted to Director of Community Advocacy. We will start engaging our community shortly and enter into a consultation period with it to brainstorm how to build the department. We anticipate that it will take us about 6-12 months to get the right team and drive the new department at full speed. The community is invited to join us on Friday for office hours to discuss the new Legal and Community Advocacy Department. Details for the IRC chat can be found at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours. A political (lobbying?) arm of Wikimedia? And the Wikimedia community and Board have said they're okay with this? MZMcBride ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcement: Building a new Legal and Community Advocacy Department Promotion of Philippe Beaudette
On 2/9/12 7:19 PM, Andreas K. wrote: Well, what do fighting for content online, providing information about legislative initiatives worldwide that impact online content and censorship, and support the advancement of legal conditions that enable unimpeded access to information online, worldwide mean? Fighting for content online includes thing such as pushing back against DMCA takedowns, etc. Providing information about legislative initiatives is just that - making sure that our community is aware of things that are going on. More specifically, building (from within the community) the ability to track that sort of thing. That's an area where crowdsourcing works very very well. Is this program not in one way or another the result and an extension of the recent SOPA blackout? No. It was conceived of prior to that, in fact. We have found that our community has a keen interest in legal and legislative issues (and the policy makers in those areas return the interest), so we would like to explore new ways to support better the community within the goals of the Foundation. We want to improve our communication with international communities, ensuring that the voice of the global community is heard on important initiatives. How does this not mean that Wikimedia will in part be a lobbying organisation? Or in other words, how can you advocate effectively for favourable legal conditions without involving lobbying and politics? By providing our community with the knowledge and the tools to do it... through creative education, and early involvement in decision making to attempt to provide us with more options than the full SOPA blackout. The whole idea here is to increase community capacity, not to lobby. :-) Although it is possible that there will be (at some point) a legislative affairs person, for instance, who would track legislation and provide subject matter expertise on process, that's a far cry from a traditional lobbying effort. pb ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Fw: Strike against the collection of personal data through edit links
MZ is correct: 3 months is the purge for Checkuser data. As to the rest of it, Diederick van Liere, our resident guru of data, will be checking into this, and will confirm back when we know exactly wht is intended by the devs for that data. I will say that generally speaking, the Foundation prefers to maintain the minimum data possible for the shortest period of time. Thanks, pb ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643 phili...@wikimedia.org To check my email volume (and thus know approx how long it will take me to respond), go to http://courteous.ly/hpQmqy On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 2:19 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Fred Bauder wrote: David Gerard wrote: 3 months I can live with :-) Can someone from WMF just confirm what data is kept for how long? The exact time is confidential. Err, no, I don't think so. It's not defined in the files at http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/, which means it should be using the default, as defined at http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/CheckUser/CheckU ser.php?revision=106556view=markup. From that file: --- # How long to keep CU data? $wgCUDMaxAge = 3 * 30 * 24 * 3600; // 3 months --- The last attempt to change this value (without community discussion) was summarily shot down: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=revisionrevision=40847. That's only CheckUser data, though. I'm not sure what David wants confirmed from the Wikimedia Foundation. Different data has different expiries. A lot of it is permanent (e.g., revisions aren't going anywhere for the most part). I guess the question is specific to the ClickTracking extension: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ClickTracking? MZMcBride ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Fw: Strike against the collection of personal data through edit links
Beria, MZ, and anyone else who said three months is correct. ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643 phili...@wikimedia.org To check my email volume (and thus know approx how long it will take me to respond), go to http://courteous.ly/hpQmqy On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote: you mean, I'm correct, because I'm the one who said 3 months ;) _ *Béria Lima* http://wikimedia.pt/(351) 925 171 484 *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho. http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos* On 4 February 2012 20:27, Philippe Beaudette phili...@wikimedia.org wrote: MZ is correct: 3 months is the purge for Checkuser data. As to the rest of it, Diederick van Liere, our resident guru of data, will be checking into this, and will confirm back when we know exactly wht is intended by the devs for that data. I will say that generally speaking, the Foundation prefers to maintain the minimum data possible for the shortest period of time. Thanks, pb ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643 phili...@wikimedia.org To check my email volume (and thus know approx how long it will take me to respond), go to http://courteous.ly/hpQmqy On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 2:19 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Fred Bauder wrote: David Gerard wrote: 3 months I can live with :-) Can someone from WMF just confirm what data is kept for how long? The exact time is confidential. Err, no, I don't think so. It's not defined in the files at http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/, which means it should be using the default, as defined at http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/CheckUser/CheckU ser.php?revision=106556view=markup. From that file: --- # How long to keep CU data? $wgCUDMaxAge = 3 * 30 * 24 * 3600; // 3 months --- The last attempt to change this value (without community discussion) was summarily shot down: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=revisionrevision=40847 . That's only CheckUser data, though. I'm not sure what David wants confirmed from the Wikimedia Foundation. Different data has different expiries. A lot of it is permanent (e.g., revisions aren't going anywhere for the most part). I guess the question is specific to the ClickTracking extension: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ClickTracking? MZMcBride ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Call for moderators
Hi everyone -
Sue has asked me to create a mailing list to discuss advocacy and
Wikimedia's position in it for the future. Although I don't yet have the
list created, I wanted to put out a call for moderators. If you're
interested in moderating this mailing list (a bit more of an active
moderation role, nudging people on topic, etc), would you please let me
know by private email (philippe{{@}}wikimedia.org)? Depending on how many
people express interest, I'll figure out how we proceed forward.
Thanks!
pb
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Re: [Foundation-l] Politico: Wikimedia foundation hires lobbyists on sopa, pipa
You trust GOOGLE's interests to align sufficiently with ours, to the extent that you're willing to cede government affairs to them? pb On Sun Jan 22 12:48:50 2012, geni wrote: On 22 January 2012 18:00, Gwern Branwen gwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Pedro Sanchez pdsanc...@gmail.com wrote: I'm worried that we may be getting in trouble. I don't know about US laws, but are charitable organizations allowed to meddle in political lobbying? I'd appreciate if more knowledgeable people could give us some light. It's perfectly allowed, and we're allowed to take positions on specific bills - it is just that lobbying cannot be a 'substantial part' of the WMF's activities unless it switches its charity type. (Googling around, I was reading http://www.asaecenter.org/Resources/whitepaperdetail.cfm?ItemNumber=12202 and http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-tege/eotopicp97.pdf ) What is highly questionable is if it a remotely worthwhile use of money. If Google's lobbyists can't impact SOPA and the like what makes the foundation think our can? ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Announcement: Maggie Dennis to continue with WMF
Hi all, I'm thrilled to announce that Maggie Dennis, our community liaison, has agreed to transition to a permanent role with the Wikimedia Foundation. You may recall that Maggie was hired on a temporary contract, with the idea of rotating through community liaisons. We still intend to hire another community liaison - in fact, her work has proven the value of the program to such an extent that we'll be expanding it - but Maggie will stay on to provide continuity. Maggie has been a godsend to me... she's a fount of knowledge, and incredibly hard working. Most importantly, she is able to fluently speak Philippe and translate that to real-people talk. As User:Moonriddengirl, she is the maven of copyright for English Wikipedia, and has well over 100,000 edits. In short, she's a rock star. Maggie will continue to report to me. Best, pb ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643 phili...@wikimedia.org ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikipedia is considering going dark to protest SOPA and PIPA
To be very clear: a decision on English Wikipedia to take action on this is not binding on Commons. ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643 phili...@wikimedia.org To check my email volume (and thus know approx how long it will take me to respond), go to http://courteous.ly/hpQmqy On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 3:23 AM, Svip svi...@gmail.com wrote: On 14 January 2012 12:20, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: On Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:58:41 +, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote: I think the concern will be dependent on whether Commons is covered in the blackout (and whether the 'full' shutdown goes ahead or the 'pop-up plus banners' that seems to be getting most traction on enwiki). I'm seeing a rough consensus for action on English Wikipedia, and German Wikipedians seem to be up for acting in solidarity, but, as I've said on the page on enwiki, I don't see how enwiki consensus for a SOPA action ought to bind other proejcts including Commons and the English sister projects. Commons most likely will only run a banner. There is currently a straw poll abut it. The blackout has not even been seriously discussed. (And I personally think it will not be a good idea because many hotlinks to Commons files would just disappear without any explanation in case of the blackout - not something which add us much credibility). Is there talk about blackout on the files or just the pages? I don't think a blackout on Commons would have the effect you described. 'Hotlinked images' from Commons would continue to work as normal. Including images in a blackout is usually a bit more work than usual (Apache rewrite rules, etc.), while pages can simply be caught with a quick and dirty MW-extension (or even just JavaScript). ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Blink tag jokes are now obsolete.
On 1/3/12 9:28 AM, Tom Morris wrote: they want it so that if they've donated it removes the banner for the rest of the fundraiser. This was in place for this year's fundraiser, so I'm surprised to see it on the list... pb ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Asking for permission [1] to use WMF resources
Hi Everton -
I forwarded this to the legal team (legal{at}wikimedia.org). They should
be in touch. :)
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2011/12/21 Everton Zanella Alvarenga everton...@gmail.com
Hi,
may I use this image
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia_affiliativemark_w_v1.png
to create a Portuguese version of this one
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia-Ambassador-Program-Logo.png
to the ambassadors program in Brazil, please?
I kindly suggest to we use a free license [2] for these images. Cheers,
Tom
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permission_culture
[2] http://freedomdefined.org/
http://opendefinition.org/
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Re: [Foundation-l] How SOPA will hurt the free web and Wikipedia
Hi folks, Just wanted to let you know that I got word a few minutes ago that today's SOPA markup meeting will be using a new tool that allows for public input into the markup. Shortly before 8:30, you'll see the SOPA bill replace the OPEN bill at Keepthewebopen.com. If you'd like to have input during the markup process, this is a nice way to do it. pb ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643 phili...@wikimedia.org On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:44 PM, Keegan Peterzell keegan.w...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 04:04:36AM +, Thomas Dalton wrote: On Dec 15, 2011 3:20 AM, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote: That, and remember that it is preferable to stage a protest BEFORE passage of the bill. :-P I'm not sure about that. If we strike before they pass the bill then we are assuming they will pass it. Shouldn't we give them a chance to do the right thing? If we think striking is a good idea (and it certainly looks like we do) then I would rather we threaten to strike and only actually do it if they do pass the bill. Same kind of thing as (external) people protesting us going to Israel I think. By the time they protested, we couldn't change our venue if we wanted to. Didn't they know we can't change venue at the last minute? They should have voiced their objections EARLIER! But I'll leave it up to the US politics experts to figure out the best timing. ;-) Maybe we can do something else earlier? (probably best to continue this onwiki :-) sincerely, Kim Bruning ...but this begs to be answered here :) I'm not a U.S. political expert, but I am informed enough to comment on American process, so my answer is the best protest is before the law is passed. Legislation is intentionally slow to be processed and slow to be overturned. Once you have a bill passed and signed into law, it takes an injunction and then years of litigation to over turn it. It's expensive to the tune of millions upon millions of legal fees for each passing year, and it takes many years. Best to nip it in the bud. -- ~Keegan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keegan ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Is a research banner advertising of the evil sort?
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW, the banner was switched on by Philippe (using his WMF account). ~Nathan Yep. After an official request from the Research Committee through their assigned staff liaison, Dario. :) pb ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Reminder: office hours this morning with WMF General Counsel
It's quite back now, also at Geoff's request. :) pb ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643 phili...@wikimedia.org On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Philippe Beaudette phili...@wikimedia.orgwrote: It was deleted at Geoff's request; I'm not certain if he's intending to reformat it and put it back up somewhere else, or what, but I'll add it to my list of things to talk about with him. We'll try to get the info up in some format, of course. :) pb ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643 phili...@wikimedia.org On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote: On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 08:12:48AM +0700, Anirudh Bhati wrote: On Saturday, December 3, 2011, Steven Walling swall...@wikimedia.org start to read the introduction that he wrote: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Geoffbrigham/Strategy Why was this page deleted? 19:22, 2 December 2011 Philippe (WMF) (talk | contribs) deleted User:Geoffbrigham/Strategy (G6: Per author request: Author request) Oh hey, that's definitely odd! Are we getting a different page back? (In that case, perhaps we should have done a move/redirect?) sincerely, Kim Bruning -- ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Reminder: office hours this morning with WMF General Counsel
It was deleted at Geoff's request; I'm not certain if he's intending to reformat it and put it back up somewhere else, or what, but I'll add it to my list of things to talk about with him. We'll try to get the info up in some format, of course. :) pb ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643 phili...@wikimedia.org On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote: On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 08:12:48AM +0700, Anirudh Bhati wrote: On Saturday, December 3, 2011, Steven Walling swall...@wikimedia.org start to read the introduction that he wrote: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Geoffbrigham/Strategy Why was this page deleted? 19:22, 2 December 2011 Philippe (WMF) (talk | contribs) deleted User:Geoffbrigham/Strategy (G6: Per author request: Author request) Oh hey, that's definitely odd! Are we getting a different page back? (In that case, perhaps we should have done a move/redirect?) sincerely, Kim Bruning -- ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Message to Fae
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 8:07 AM, Fae f...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Oops, sorry Fred, On Wikipedia I have a nice acronym expanding script to make sure I don't get locked into jargon, particularly useful when explaining things to newer editors. Cheers, Fae Uhm... where can I get that script? :) pb ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643 phili...@wikimedia.org ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 5:07 AM, Tobias Oelgarte tobias.oelga...@googlemail.com wrote: I ask Sue and Philippe again: WHERE ARE THE PROMISED RESULTS - BY PROJECT?! First, there's a bit of a framing difference here. We did not initially promise results by project. Even now, I've never promised that. What I've said is that we would attempt to do so. But it's not solely in the WMF's purview - the election had a team of folks in charge of it who came from the community and it's not the WMF's role to dictate to them how to do their job. I (finally) have the full results parsed in such a way as to make it * potentially* possible to release them for discussion by project. However, I'm still waiting for the committee to approve that release. I'll re-ping on that, because, frankly, it's been a week or so. That will be my next email. :) pb ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643 phili...@wikimedia.org ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Grant agreements
Point of clarification (and this is to help someone else answer, because i don't know)... MZ, are you talking about grants such as Stanton, where the WMF is the recipient, or grants such as to the chapters, where the WMF is the granting partner? pb ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643 phili...@wikimedia.org On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote: Oh sorry, is the opposite. *I know they are posted in Chapters Wiki - not sure if they are in Internal Wiki* should be I know they are posted in Internal Wiki - not sure if they are in Chapters Wiki _ *Béria Lima* http://wikimedia.pt/(351) 925 171 484 *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos.* On 14 October 2011 23:51, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote: I know they are posted in Chapters Wiki - not sure if they are in Internal Wiki. But is just ask some chapter to upload a copy in Commons (I don't have one, so I can't do it) _ *Béria Lima* http://wikimedia.pt/(351) 925 171 484 *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos.* On 14 October 2011 23:18, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Hi. I asked about this a few days ago, but I don't think anyone ever responded. Are the grant agreements that the Wikimedia Foundation enters into posted anywhere? If so, where? If not, could someone post them, please? MZMcBride ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] A Wikimedia project has forked
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 8:47 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Is there a single staffer who's even thinking about any of them as part of their work? I don't know of any. And, back to the original thought: are there any Wikimedia initiatives to specifically (or primarily) improve any of these sister projects? I also don't know of any. MZMcBride Yes, there are three staff members in my team alone (me, Christine, Maggie) who are thinking about them as a part of their work. I responded to a question on Wikiversity last night. I read the major discussion pages on each of the English language projects (regrettably the only language I speak) weekly. I try to hit the others with Google translate regularly, but not quite that. pb ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643 phili...@wikimedia.org ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Minor projects withering and dying? Really?
Usage statistics alone, I would agree with you. But stats can tell so much more than just what you get from usage stats. For instance: http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikinews/EN/ChartsWikipediaEN.htm (be sure to scroll all the way to the right). ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643 phili...@wikimedia.org On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net wrote: On 09/20/11 10:11 PM, とある白い猫 wrote: Certain projects are bound to loose active contributors. Projects like Wikisource, Wikiquote, Wikispecies or even Wiktionary do not have the same growth curve as a general purpose encyclopedia. These tools have serious competition as well. Statistically looking at numbers is unwise unless you are going to look at it with a perspective. This is not to say these projects are without problem, but that doesn't mean the wikis are failures. This is all very true. The important thing is to keep focused on your own project. If you look at competing projects, rather than looking at their usage statistics, a better question is What are they failing to do that you could do better? Ray ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Personal Image Filter results announced
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:31 AM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote: And about culture - forgive me - but the only people who seems concerned about remove those images from wiki are AFAIS american. I'm sorry, no. This is just untrue. I wonder, would the same sentence be acceptable if you substitute anything else for the word American? pb ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Personal Image Filter results announced
As soon as I've got it to give and the comments have been anonymized, absolutely. I do not yet have a full feed that meets our needs for analysis beyond what's already done. ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643 phili...@wikimedia.org On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 12:04 AM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Philippe Beaudette phili...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:31 AM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote: And about culture - forgive me - but the only people who seems concerned about remove those images from wiki are AFAIS american. I'm sorry, no. This is just untrue. It would be nice to see some analysis of the results per country or language. But please can we have the data first, so that the analysis tasks can be undertaken by we the people. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Image_filter_referendum/Results/en#Release_raw_data_first.3F -- John Vandenberg ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Personal Image Filter results announced
Just to followup on this. Andrew Garrett is talking with Tim about the best way to extract this data while still keeping the secrecy of a ballot intact. Some of the analysis we simply may not be able to do, without risking the secret ballot. We'll let you know more as we hear. pb ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643 phili...@wikimedia.org On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 12:04 AM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Philippe Beaudette phili...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:31 AM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote: And about culture - forgive me - but the only people who seems concerned about remove those images from wiki are AFAIS american. I'm sorry, no. This is just untrue. It would be nice to see some analysis of the results per country or language. But please can we have the data first, so that the analysis tasks can be undertaken by we the people. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Image_filter_referendum/Results/en#Release_raw_data_first.3F -- John Vandenberg ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Personal Image Filter results announced
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote: On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 03:08:54PM +0200, Ziko van Dijk wrote: Hello, On German language Wikipedia, there is a poll of its own. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meinungsbilder/Einf%C3%BChrung_pers%C3%B6nlicher_Bildfilter Assuming that the .de community is similar to the wikimedia community at large, I think that the difference in results can largely be explained directly by the design of the !referendum. The emerging discrepancies between the german vote and the !referendum, together with the known deficiencies in the !referendum design warrant some -slight- cause for concern, perhaps. I'd like to run some sort of audit to allay potential concerns. Any ideas as to practicability and/or execution? sincerely, Kim Bruning What type of audit? If you're speaking of data security/integrity, that's handled by SPI and there could be no tampering. If you're speaking of design, etc, there's room for a conversation. :) ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Personal Image Filter results announced
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.orgwrote: On 04/09/11 14:33, Philippe Beaudette wrote: Please note that the results are not final: although the vote count is, and has been finalized, the analysis of comments is ongoing. It would be nice to see a correlation analysis of some kind. For example, it would be interesting to know whether those who support the filter have differing views on cultural neutrality to those who oppose it. -- Tim Starling Absolutely. There's a ton of analysis left to do. I'll add that to the list though. :) pb ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Personal Image Filter results announced
Ladies and Gentlemen, The committee running the vote on the features for the Personal Image Filter have released their interim report and vote count. You may see the results at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image_filter_referendum/Results/en. Please note that the results are not final: although the vote count is, and has been finalized, the analysis of comments is ongoing. Posted on behalf of the committee, Philippe ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. phili...@wikimedia.org ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolutions on controversial content and images of identifiable people
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Kim Bruning k...@bruning.xs4all.nl wrote: I can still, today, as an anon, remove or add images as I see fit. This is permitted and even encouraged, provided that what I am doing is sane (And thus most likely meets consensus). Tried it lately? pb ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643 phili...@wikimedia.org ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Board resolutions on controversial content and images of identifiable people
It is absolutely not part of the resolution, nor is it in the design plans that I've seen. My understanding is that it works like current categorization, in that anyone can participate. pb ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643 phili...@wikimedia.org On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 1:20 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: That's what I meant - plans for a special committee, and not a community decision, had somehow escaped my notice. That's just a ridiculously, amazingly, bad idea. The community is frequently on crack, but a special committee for this job can only be worse. Is it in fact the case that the job is to be handed to a special committee? If so, who thought this was a good idea and why? ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] AbuseFilter to be enabled on all Wikimedia wikis by default today
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote: Extreme cases can be used to justify any action Victor. Why live in a country where every month new powers are being given to the police to control the population? Who wants to live in that country? I'm amused. The first sentence is condemning Victor for using an extreme case. The second is an extreme case comparing the abuse filter to a police state. pb ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Call for referendum
It's really truly not going to be a matter of weeks, I can assure you of that. It may be, at best, a couple of extra days, but we've all been vote checking as we go. I don't anticipate much delay if any. ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643 phili...@wikimedia.org On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 2:22 AM, Huib Laurens sterke...@gmail.com wrote: At the time of the License Commitee with the vote we had te results also very fast... Dude... Its all possible when they check all the votes made on day 1 on day 2 etc etc... And the system is very simple to work with. Best, Huib 2011/8/21, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com: On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 3:08 AM, Philippe Beaudette phili...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com wrote: So why announce ridiculously unrealistic timeframe between the vote concluding and the results being announced? First, I disagree that it's ridiculously unrealistic. Vote checking has already started and will continue throughout the polling. Second, hindsight is 20/20. I'll tell you that it's a balancing act... we've gotten it right a few times and we've gotten it wrong a few times. It's been years since this type of all-projects election was held for anything but a Board of Trustees election, and so, yeah, mistakes will be made. But let's just wait and see on the timeframe, shall we? No doubt an extension will have to happen, but what's the harm? If we take a couple extra days to announce the results, who has been harmed? ' Months, not extra days, dude. -- -- Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro]] ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Verzonden vanaf mijn mobiele apparaat Kind regards, Huib Laurens WickedWay.nl Webhosting the wicked way. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Call for referendum
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com wrote: So why announce ridiculously unrealistic timeframe between the vote concluding and the results being announced? First, I disagree that it's ridiculously unrealistic. Vote checking has already started and will continue throughout the polling. Second, hindsight is 20/20. I'll tell you that it's a balancing act... we've gotten it right a few times and we've gotten it wrong a few times. It's been years since this type of all-projects election was held for anything but a Board of Trustees election, and so, yeah, mistakes will be made. But let's just wait and see on the timeframe, shall we? No doubt an extension will have to happen, but what's the harm? If we take a couple extra days to announce the results, who has been harmed? pb Philippe Beaudette ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter referendum
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 1:23 PM, J Alexandr Ledbury-Romanov alexandrdmitriroma...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/8/16 Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com [...] While the eligibility rules would encourage wide participation, the 1) click on sitenotice 2) read wall of text 3) go back to your own wiki, but remember the arbitrary string Securepoll/230 that doesn't mean anything in languages other than English 4) find and use the search function 5) click the go to vote link sequence is not very user friendly or usable even for the more experienced of editors. [...] 6) get told Error fetching your account information from the server. (five times in a row, just to be sure) AD ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter referendum
Yeah, we're troubleshooting now... thanks. Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Tel: (415) 839-6885 | x 6643 phili...@wikimedia.org | www.wikimediafoundation.org On Aug 16, 2011, at 1:23 PM, J Alexandr Ledbury-Romanov wrote: 2011/8/16 Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com [...] While the eligibility rules would encourage wide participation, the 1) click on sitenotice 2) read wall of text 3) go back to your own wiki, but remember the arbitrary string Securepoll/230 that doesn't mean anything in languages other than English 4) find and use the search function 5) click the go to vote link sequence is not very user friendly or usable even for the more experienced of editors. [...] 6) get told Error fetching your account information from the server. (five times in a row, just to be sure) AD ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Sending announcements to this list
As Jay is away for a while, I checked… 381. pb Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Tel: (415) 839-6885 | x 6643 phili...@wikimedia.org | www.wikimediafoundation.org On Aug 12, 2011, at 11:15 AM, Nemo wrote: We need Jay Walsh to check the number of subscribers; they're probably still way less than the 1100 ca. this list has... But this doesn't necessarily mean that sending announcements to this list will actually increase the number of people who /read/ them... Nemo ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Office Actions
Huib, If you'd send the details to le...@wikimedia.org (and copy me), I'm sure we can take a look at it. pb ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 2106 (reader relations) phili...@wikimedia.org On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Huib Laurens sterke...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Where can you request the Wikimedia Office to step in and remove a part of a article? I can't speak in more details, but in a series of wikipedia pages on 4 projects there is content that could harm the wikimedia foundation in a legal way. I tried to get it done with the local admins but they refuse, what will be the next step to get a opinion for a office action? -- Kind regards, Huib Laurens WickedWay.nl Webhosting the wicked way. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Office Actions
Dan, Legal-en goes to the legal queue. Legal@ goes to the legal department. pb ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 2106 (reader relations) phili...@wikimedia.org On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Dan Rosenthal swatjes...@gmail.comwrote: On 7/11/11, Jon Davis w...@konsoletek.com wrote: Why don't you try emailing le...@wikimedia.org ? If it is legal related they would seem to be a good start. On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:37, Huib Laurens sterke...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Where can you request the Wikimedia Office to step in and remove a part of a article? I can't speak in more details, but in a series of wikipedia pages on 4 projects there is content that could harm the wikimedia foundation in a legal way. I tried to get it done with the local admins but they refuse, what will be the next step to get a opinion for a office action? -- Kind regards, Huib Laurens WickedWay.nl Webhosting the wicked way. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Jon [[User:ShakataGaNai]] / KJ6FNQ http://snowulf.com/ http://ipv6wiki.net/ ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l Legal@ goes to OTRS legal queue (it used to be a bad email alias, I think that's been fixed now and it properly goes to the legal queue), which has no authority for handling office actions. Realistically the fastest way to get an office action resolved is to email Philippe, and if there is an immediate and urgent (and unquestionable need) for some sort of deletion, contact an admin/steward/oversighter as exists on your particular wiki. -- Dan Rosenthal ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Call for referendum
*Please distribute widely* * * * * *Call for referendum*: The Wikimedia Foundation, at the direction of the Board of Trustees, will be holding a vote to determine whether members of the community support the creation and usage of an opt-in personal image filter, which would allow readers to voluntarily screen particular types of images strictly for their own account. Further details and educational materials will be available shortly. The referendum is scheduled for 12-27 August, 2011, and will be conducted on servers hosted by a neutral third party. Referendum details, officials, voting requirements, and supporting materials will be posted at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image_filter_referendum shortly. For the coordinating committee, Philippe (WMF) Cbrown1023 Risker Mardetanha PeterSymonds Robert Harris ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 2106 (reader relations) phili...@wikimedia.org ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] IRC Office Hours
Hi everyone, Just a quick reminder that Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Sue Gardner will be having office hours in about 10 hours, at 17:00 UTC. There is no pre-set topic for this conversation. As usual, documentation is on Meta.[1] We look forward to chatting. :) pb ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 2106 (reader relations) phili...@wikimedia.org 1. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Scheduled intermittent downtime on all Wikimedia projects ...
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote: Let's just drop it :) I'm not sure where things went so south but I take full responsibility. I've pinged Tim off-list about contributing my own time to work on the error page matter - which I think is only fair enough given that I raised it. And sorry for any offence caused to the ops team by my suggestion. Tom p.s. I appreciate Tim is busy so maybe someone else can answer: if I have a substantial technical proposal to re-work the error page process where is the best place to post it for comment? Tom, one other thing to keep in mind: the messages will need to be translated. So you might make sure that TransCom is in the loop. :-) pb ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. phili...@wikimedia.org ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com wrote: For those who deal with the BLP queue on OTRS, how serious is the problem of BLP attack pages, whether rising to the level of defamation or not? I know the problem exists -- anyone who edits can see it -- but I'd be interested in hearing from OTRS people how pervasive it is in terms of what's reported to them. Does anyone keep figures? Sarah The Community Dept (Christine) is in the midst of looking at and classifying inbound tickets to begin to give us a real feel for that. I hope we'll have some answers soon, but I'll ask her to give me a 30,000 foot overview and report back here. pb ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 2106 (reader relations) phili...@wikimedia.org ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com wrote: For those who deal with the BLP queue on OTRS, how serious is the problem of BLP attack pages, whether rising to the level of defamation or not? I know the problem exists -- anyone who edits can see it -- but I'd be interested in hearing from OTRS people how pervasive it is in terms of what's reported to them. Does anyone keep figures? I asked Christine to do a quick scan, what follows is her response: *There isn't an exact BLP queue in OTRS; there is one for overall quality (called, what else, Quality) which is where a lot of the BLP concerns go, as they are quality issues. Of the current tickets in the queue, not quite half are BLP related (96 out of 209). Of those BLP tickets, about 15% of them mention being attacked/articles being biased or slanted. I didn't do any deep research into whether the accounts are true or not; this is merely the perception of the person writing in, which is the most relevant measure for the topic currently under discussion. * *Also of those BLP tickets, the same percentage specifically mention libelous information, slander, etc. * * * Hope that helps, pb ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] CentralNotice use
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 3:50 AM, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote: It could well be that an image banner does improve click through and (in the case of the fund raiser) donations... but I can't find any actual A/B tests (or any other tests) to see if this is actually the case or not. It does. We tested it for the fundraiser, I'll see if I can dig up the results of that test. pb ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Ombudsman commission
Hi everyone, As you may be aware, we accepted with regret the resignation of one of the members of the ombudsman commission. Herbythyme will be missed. However, given the need to fill the seat, I asked for volunteers and received several very promising candidates, so this seemed a very good time to introduce a modification to the process. Instead of nominating one person for the commission, I'm nominating two: one to serve the unexpired term, and one alternate, who will serve as a non-voting advisor to the commission this year, and then remain on for another full term. This provides us with knowledge transfer from one commission to another, and also allows us to get the maximum number of highly qualified candidates the experience of serving on the commission. The user that I am nominating to fill the unexpired term is [[User:Pundit]], of the Polish Wikipedia. He serves as an administrator, a mediator, and a bureaucrat there. He also is a contributor to the English Wikipedia and to Wikimedia Commons. Pundit does not currently hold checkuser permissions anywhere, so he will not be required to lay them down. The user filling the role of alternate, and continuing to a second term on the commission is [[User:Dweller]]. Dweller is a bureaucrat, administrator, and oversighter on the English Wikipedia. He is also a prolific content creator. Dweller also does not currently hold checkuser permissions, and so will not be required to lay them down. It is envisioned that the alternate will not be required to surrender their checkuser tool (if they have it) until they are placed on the commission as a full, voting member. It seems unfair to deprive the wikis of their service for two years. However, the alternate is pledged to recuse from matters on which he has a personal conflict of interest. Please join me in thanking them for their service. We will be requesting rights changes shortly. These two join the other members of the commission, [[User:Sir48]], [[User:FloNight]], [[User:Mwpnl]], and [[User:Thogo]]. Thank you to everyone who generously volunteered for this position. pb ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 2106 (reader relations) phili...@wikimedia.org ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Change to Ombudsman commission
Hi everyone, With great regret, I tell you that Herbythyme has found it necessary to withdraw from the Ombudsman commission [1] due to extenuating personal circumstances. We wish him all the best and thank him for his service. He will be resuming his permissions as before. This leaves one position open. If you wish to self-nominate, or to nominate another user, please feel free to send me their name. Best wishes, pb [1] - http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ombudsman_commission ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643 (office) phili...@wikimedia.org ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser
On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 8:02 AM, Juergen Fenn juergen.f...@gmx.de wrote: this time it was not possible to switch the banners off, even you were logged in as a user. Juergen, It's disturbing to hear you say that: every banner run by WMF (and, i believe, every banner run by a chapter as well) had a hide button on it (an X in the right hand corner to turn it off). pb ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. phili...@wikimedia.org ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Storyteller job opening
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 3:54 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Philippe Beaudette wrote: On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 11:06 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Sue Gardner wrote: Ah, Sarah, I don't think that's particularly fair. Bear in mind we've just published a strategic plan that 1,000+ Wikimedians helped create. I'm not denying that some Wikimedians may feel alienated from the Wikimedia Foundation: I'm sure it is true for some. But something in which we have no input is, IMO, not a fair characterization. This is an interesting comment given who actually authored the strategic plan. It's my understanding that several people (Eugene, you, Erik, and others) wrote different parts of the report, which were then compiled by people from Bridgespan. Is that accurate? Is there a record of who wrote which parts of the report? It would be particularly interesting to see how much of it came from volunteers. She didn't say they sat down and banged out the plan on their IBM Selectric. She said they helped create it. That's entirely accurate. It grew from the work of the task forces, research around the proposals, research in general... all of those done by volunteers. While the final wording may have been smithed by a relatively smaller set of people, the first attempt was actually to have community members do that as well. It didn't work well - either because it's a task that was poorly facilitated (and if so, I'm to blame), or a task that was poorly defined, or simply a task that the people who were there weren't interested in doing (and as volunteers, that's their right and privilege), the writing had to be assigned to a number of people. I dislike this posts like this one, which (at least from one perspective) engage in a game of rhetorical gotcha. So... that's a no? There's no record of who wrote what? I think people in the community are interested to know how much of the strategic plan came from various stakeholders, both the ideas and the actual pieces of the report. If you feel that it's unfair to ask for attribution, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. MZMcBride I don't think I actually answered that part of the question, because - as I told you privately - I was gone from the project long before then. I simply don't know. But this is further rhetorical gotcha - you took my response to one part of your post and tried to twist it to be a non-answer to the other part of your post. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Zack Exley zex...@wikimedia.org wrote: I think he'd tell you he regrets the way he put that. Our jobs don't matter at all if they're not significantly helping the movement. And I know he feels that way too. So that we're not hypothesizing, I'll say it: I sincerely regret the way I put that. I was attempting to say that the choices that we make have real world consequences. I used a terrible example to point that out. Philippe ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Reminder: IRC office hours with Sue Gardner today
30 minute notice. :) pb Steven Walling wrote: Hi all, Sorry for the late reminder, but just wanted to let everyone know that the IRC office hours with Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Sue Gardner will be happening as planned at 00:00 UTC on the 25th (or the afternoon/evening of the 24th, if you're in our end of the world.) The agenda is open, and as usual times and conversion links can be found on Meta at: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours Thanks! -- Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. phili...@wikimedia.org 415 839 6885 x6643 ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Friendliness (was: Missing Wikipedians: An Essay)
David Gerard wrote: Ban Twinkle? The tool seems to directly encourage problematic behaviour. In my opinion, this would be suboptimal. The truth is, that tool made my life easier when I was admin-ing on a regular basis. But perhaps cutting out particular problematic features wouldn't be a terrible idea. pb -- Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. phili...@wikimedia.org ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] OTRS identification policy
Hi everyone, Several people have raised important questions on this list about the identification policy as it applies to OTRS volunteers. Together with interim counsel and other members of the community department, I have been reviewing our compliance with, and interpretation of, Wikimedia Foundation policies including the access to nonpublic data policy. Based on a risk assessment, we decided that we needed more consistent identification of OTRS volunteers, and retention of identification data.. Both on the OTRS mailing list and here, people have rightly pointed out the complexity of this issue. More discussion is clearly needed, and we will therefore table the issue and review it in more detail with our new General Counsel, Geoff, and with the community, once Geoff has had an opportunity to be brought in and get acquainted with the community. For those who have not sent identification yet, feel free to defer doing so. For those who have provided ID, we will destroy it on request (we may have to again obtain it if we finally conclude that retention is necessary). pb ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. pbeaude...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://donate.wikimedia.org ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Making wikimediafoundation.org more open to contributions
I would say that (as Erik said) in some cases it's a good idea. I doubt that we could have done the work we did on Strategy wiki, had it been housed on meta. Some wikis wish to set different standards for what can be included, and that's difficult to do if you have an extant wiki that has its own standards and rues. pb ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. pbeaude...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://donate.wikimedia.org On Jan 31, 2011, at 7:47 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: Hoi, The milk has spilled so it is time to mop up. As we gain more experience, we learn that having new wikis is often a bad idea in the long run. We live we learn.. Thanks, GerardM On 31 January 2011 14:25, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: On 28 January 2011 20:33, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: Such a solution would make it easier to fold separate wikis (such as a conference wiki) back into Meta when we were done with them, too. Why fold them into meta afterwards rather than just use Meta from the beginning? Isn't the whole point of the proposal that we stop creating new wikis for everything? ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Ombudsman Commission
Hi all, As the month draws to a close, I wanted to announce this year's ombudsman commission, and offer my thanks to those who have served on the commission for the past year. Outgoing commission members are: Carkuni, of jawiki DR, of ruwiki Elian, of dewiki Lar, of enwiki and commonswiki Palnatoke, of dawiki. I know that you join me in thanking them for their service to the community. The incoming commission is: User:HerbyThyme, of commonswiki User:Sir48, of dawiki User:FloNight, of enwiki, commonswiki and wikiquote User:Mwpnl, of nlwiki User:Thogo, of dewiki They will serve for a term of one year. Thanks, everyone! Best, pb ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. ofc: +1 415 839 6885 x6643 mobile: +1 918 200 WIKI (9454) pbeaude...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://donate.wikimedia.org ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Making wikimediafoundation.org more open to contributions
On Jan 27, 2011, at 7:58 PM, MZMcBride wrote this plus some other stuff: Hi. When wikimediafoundation.org was first established (as a fishbowl wiki), there were concerns expressed about its lack of open editing. For one of the most prominent wiki and community-based organizations to have a closed site for its non-profit foundation is rather silly and anachronistic. The wiki was created before extensions like FlaggedRevs existed, but even today with these extensions theoretically capable of allowing outside contributions with moderation, there are still relevant and serious concerns about features that are enabled at wikimediafoundation.org, such as allowing raw HTML to be used. I have to say, I rather support these changes. I've long been troubled with the perception that our own foundation-wiki was so restrictive. It seemed anti-thetical to me. I'm pleased to see steps towards opening this up. ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. pbeaude...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://donate.wikimedia.org ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] January 15 retro?
On Jan 7, 2011, at 7:04 PM, James Alexander wrote: On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Pharos pharosofalexand...@gmail.com wrote: I actually tried to set up a geonotice to catch Wikipedian Antarcticans a while back, but unfortunately the convergence of the longitude lines kind of threw it off :P Thanks, Pharos There is an 'Antarctica' in the Central Notice country list... I wonder if the IPs actually geolocate to it... I'll save you some trouble. :) I've been in touch with the folks behind the joint research station, Antarctica. This is a very very scaled down time of year for them, and they're in a pure maintenance mode, at the moment. Through a friend, I was able to get someone to make both an edit and a contribution from there (so we could say every continent) but a party of any type - even three guys and a glass of grape juice - was a non-starter. pb ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Fundraising banners
Hi everyone, We wanted you to hear first: in about three hours, we're switching the messaging on the banners to Thank you! It's time to thank the world, because the world came together to help support the Wikimedia projects. We're delighted to report that nearly half a million donations came in. It's a resounding vote of confidence in what you've done with the projects. So take a moment to stop, to celebrate, and to enjoy the accomplishment... and then it's time to focus on the tenth anniversary year! You may notice that the fundraising statistics page doesn't quite say $16M. Since you might be asked about that, here's the math we used to arrive at the end of the fundraiser: In addition to the amount posted on the graph (roughly $13.5M), we have about $1.5 million in revenue received during testing or received but not yet posted (manual check entry, etc). We've been counting on $500,000 from the chapters in our thermometer formula but given the extraordinary chapter fundraising success this year, we're confident that we'll be over the $16M mark. (We're also including an adjusted value for the recurring gifts that we've received this year.) We're delighted to be able to start 2011 with our community giving goal already met. We did this in a collaborative fashion: testing nearly 200 banner ideas submitted by the community, using translations, with community involvement in the testing, and in the next phase of the campaign - encouraging people to edit. We'll be running Thank you banners for the next few days to tell the world how much this editing community appreciates their financial support, and then will convert to banners inviting people to get involved in tenth anniversary celebrations around the world, and to make their first edit (the contribution phase of the campaign). Now let's go celebrate! Zack Exley Philippe Beaudette Megan Hernandez ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. pbeaude...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://donate.wikimedia.org ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Banners coming down for most logged in users
Naoko, We're actually still figuring out the right way to use the centralnotice for advertising events. We're concerned about not overwhelming particular events, but also with making sure that the word gets out - it's a bit of a balancing act. Once we've figured out the best way to go about doing that (and we'd appreciate any suggestions), we'll start putting a process into place. Centralnotice is like a cannon... we don't want to direct a notice at millions of people, if the party isn't ready for the potential end result. pb ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. pbeaude...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://donate.wikimedia.org On Dec 20, 2010, at 8:11 PM, KIZU Naoko wrote: Hello, On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 5:26 AM, Philippe Beaudette pbeaude...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi everyone, A quick announcement: we are temporarily turning off the fundraising banners for most logged in users. This will continue most likely through the end of the year. We did some quick checking and realized that most people who are logged in and intend to give have already given. The banners will stay off for a while, and we'll most likely not turn them on until after the first of the year for a final wrap-up push. So will they come back after New Year's Day? For those of you in chapter areas, as always, the chapters control messaging in their territories - this should only impact users who are in the areas where the fundraiser messaging is controlled by the Foundation. That said, although we at WiKansai are no chapter, we are organizing a WikiX event coming very soon - being held on January 22, and aiming to publicize it using CentralNotice. I don't know what comes when two kinds of banners are put through CN, but anyway arrangement would be necessary, although my latest mail asking for such arrangement with Foundation hasn't been replied yet. Cheers, Enjoy the respite :) Philippe ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. pbeaude...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://donate.wikimedia.org ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- KIZU Naoko / 木津尚子 member of Wikimedians in Kansai / 関西ウィキメディアユーザ会 http://kansai.wikimedia.jp ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Banners coming down for most logged in users
Hi everyone, A quick announcement: we are temporarily turning off the fundraising banners for most logged in users. This will continue most likely through the end of the year. We did some quick checking and realized that most people who are logged in and intend to give have already given. The banners will stay off for a while, and we'll most likely not turn them on until after the first of the year for a final wrap-up push. For those of you in chapter areas, as always, the chapters control messaging in their territories - this should only impact users who are in the areas where the fundraiser messaging is controlled by the Foundation. Enjoy the respite :) Philippe ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. pbeaude...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://donate.wikimedia.org ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Monthly Recurring Giving
Thanks, Liam. The hope is that this consistent income stream will provide the Foundation with a steady source of income while giving donors another method for giving that might fit their lifestyle. it has certainly been heavily requested. By past donors, I refer to both people who have donated this year and in the past. I honestly don't know how far the database goes back, but i will see if I can find out. Our database consists of about 600,000 donors, I believe, but this is a very rough number. Many duplicate records exist, and there is a definite need for some serious data clean-up work. in addition, we have almost no information on a donor if she moves, for instance. We began a test mailing about recurring giving today, and expect to roll it out more widely over the rest of the week. Philippe On Dec 15, 2010, at 4:28 AM, Liam Wyatt wrote: Phillipe, congratulations on this! I suspect this will be the beginning of a whole new revenue stream that might eventually surpass the once a year effort we have always relied on. I know in Australia at least that this is a very common method for charities to request donations as it results in a larger total donation from the individual over time, makes it easier to build a longterm relationship with the donor (through a monthly newsletter or whatever) and also a more assured revenue stream for the organisation. It's also good to see that the WMF is diversifying the methods of giving. When you say that you'll be announcing it to past donors - do you mean the people who've donated so far during this year's fundraiser, or anyone who has donated going back several years? If the latter - how long does the database go back and how many individual donors have there been? -Liam wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata On 15 December 2010 03:28, Philippe Beaudette pbeaude...@wikimedia.orgwrote: One member of the fundraising team had it on her Christmas list. Another literally begged for it. So today, I feel quite a sense of accomplishment in announcing that the Wikimedia Foundation is now able to accept recurring monthly contributions as a giving option for our donors. Recurring giving has been in the works for a long time - literally years. We launched a limited test run of recurring donations last Thursday, and have already received several thousand dollars worth of commitments using this new method. Over the course of the past several years, we’ve received hundreds of requests from donors that we offer automatic monthly giving. Donors want the ease of monthly giving, and, as many have noted, it's far more convenient to give $5 a month than $60 all at once. In addition, it gives the Foundation a certain amount of security to know that a base amount of money will be coming every month, year round. With monthly recurring giving, a donor selects the amount they wish to give, and the payment is made automatically each month, for 12 months. Our recurring monthly donations are processed by Paypal, so unfortunately we still are unable to accept the currencies they don’t support. However - as with any PayPal transaction, you can use either your PayPal account, or a credit card. Our recurring giving options will primarily be targeted as post-donation options. Testing showed that including the option on the initial giving form actually resulted in fewer transactions, but many past donors feel strongly about the introduction of this system. We will likely be announcing it to past donors as a method to continue their generous support, sometime this week. Anyone is welcome to use it - we just won't be advertising it on the initial donation. You can sign up for recurring giving at: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Monthly_donations/en With this, we gleefully delete the “sorry, we don’t have a recurring donation option” template from our email response systems. Best wishes, Philippe ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. ofc: +1 415 839 6885 x6643 mobile: +1 918 200 WIKI (9454) pbeaude...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://donate.wikimedia.org ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Monthly Recurring Giving
One member of the fundraising team had it on her Christmas list. Another literally begged for it. So today, I feel quite a sense of accomplishment in announcing that the Wikimedia Foundation is now able to accept recurring monthly contributions as a giving option for our donors. Recurring giving has been in the works for a long time - literally years. We launched a limited test run of recurring donations last Thursday, and have already received several thousand dollars worth of commitments using this new method. Over the course of the past several years, we’ve received hundreds of requests from donors that we offer automatic monthly giving. Donors want the ease of monthly giving, and, as many have noted, it's far more convenient to give $5 a month than $60 all at once. In addition, it gives the Foundation a certain amount of security to know that a base amount of money will be coming every month, year round. With monthly recurring giving, a donor selects the amount they wish to give, and the payment is made automatically each month, for 12 months. Our recurring monthly donations are processed by Paypal, so unfortunately we still are unable to accept the currencies they don’t support. However - as with any PayPal transaction, you can use either your PayPal account, or a credit card. Our recurring giving options will primarily be targeted as post-donation options. Testing showed that including the option on the initial giving form actually resulted in fewer transactions, but many past donors feel strongly about the introduction of this system. We will likely be announcing it to past donors as a method to continue their generous support, sometime this week. Anyone is welcome to use it - we just won't be advertising it on the initial donation. You can sign up for recurring giving at: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Monthly_donations/en With this, we gleefully delete the “sorry, we don’t have a recurring donation option” template from our email response systems. Best wishes, Philippe ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. ofc: +1 415 839 6885 x6643 mobile: +1 918 200 WIKI (9454) pbeaude...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://donate.wikimedia.org ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Wiki[p/m]edia
Hi everyone - First, let me thank you all for your concern about the recent banners. Michael Snow is right - we tested some things, thinking that we could manage to raise the yield slightly by deliberately attempting to clarify (not to confuse) for people that the Wikimedia Foundation was directly affiliated with Wikipedia. Yes, it'll come as a shock to all of you tongue-in-cheek but there are people who don't know that Wikimedia is anything more than a mis-spelling of Wikipedia. /tongue-in-cheek. When we get letters saying things like I'd donate, but only to Wikipedia, not to Wikimedia, it spells out for us that it's possible we could attract more people with the institution of Wikipedia than the institution of Wikimedia. Did we think it would be drahma free? No. Of course not. But it was based on our best data and with nothing but the very best of intentions. Suggesting that it was criminal is... well, regrettable. I think that our data-driven approach has proven to be very successful this year, and this (hypothesize, test, measure, react) was in line with that method. Obviously, this topic was more sensitive than many other areas where we've taken this approach. To anyone we offended, I offer my personal apologies. With that said, the banners are being changed right now - they'll say Wikimedia. pb ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. ofc: +1 415 839 6885 x6643 mobile: +1 918 200 WIKI (9454) pbeaude...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://donate.wikimedia.org ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Executive Director?
FWIW The word Wikipedia wasn't supposed to make it to sister sites, and that's being fixed right now, so pardon my quick note... I'll write a bit more later about the term as being used on Wikipedia, but the error in pushing it out to sister sites is being corrected right now, so I wanted to acknowledge that... pb ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. ofc: +1 415 839 6885 x6643 mobile: +1 918 200 WIKI (9454) pbeaude...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://donate.wikimedia.org On Dec 8, 2010, at 5:42 PM, MZMcBride wrote: Hi. The new banners and landing pages with Sue Gardner are using the phrase Wikipedia Executive Director; for example: http://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?oldid=53090 I'm not a big fan of the smaller projects. On more than one occasion I've called for disbanding some of them. However, Wikimedia is made up of more than just Wikipedia. It is a spit in the face to editors of non-Wikipedias to put these banners on the top of any Wikimedia project (I saw this banner on mediawiki.org). It is the Wikimedia Foundation, not the Wikipedia Foundation. Calling Sue Gardner the Wikipedia Executive Director is simply wrong (factually and morally) and doing so is entirely unacceptable. Wikimedia ought to hold itself above lying to readers in order to solicit donations. These banners and landing pages are a violation of what Wikimedians strive to spread and strive to be and they should be changed immediately. MZMcBride ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Executive Director?
For the record, MZMcBride did let me know that he was sending a nastygram. So while I disagree with his language choice, he checked first. \ pb On Dec 8, 2010, at 5:50 PM, Newyorkbrad wrote: I agree that this factual error should be corrected (as we have told it is being corrected), but raising what was perfectly likely to have been an innocent error to the level of being morally wrong, without having even asked first, seems rhetorically excessive. Newyorkbrad On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 8:42 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Hi. The new banners and landing pages with Sue Gardner are using the phrase Wikipedia Executive Director; for example: http://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?oldid=53090 I'm not a big fan of the smaller projects. On more than one occasion I've called for disbanding some of them. However, Wikimedia is made up of more than just Wikipedia. It is a spit in the face to editors of non-Wikipedias to put these banners on the top of any Wikimedia project (I saw this banner on mediawiki.org). It is the Wikimedia Foundation, not the Wikipedia Foundation. Calling Sue Gardner the Wikipedia Executive Director is simply wrong (factually and morally) and doing so is entirely unacceptable. Wikimedia ought to hold itself above lying to readers in order to solicit donations. These banners and landing pages are a violation of what Wikimedians strive to spread and strive to be and they should be changed immediately. MZMcBride ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Personal Appeals for individual editors strikes the right chord
Thanks for the kind words, everyone. We hope to push these banners out more globally this week; but as always, in those countries with chapters, they'll need to have things like landing pages updated in order for us to do that. Once we've nailed down the release schedule we'll send it to the chapters so they can create their new landing pages. pb ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. ofc: +1 415 839 6885 x6643 mobile: +1 918 200 WIKI (9454) pbeaude...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://donate.wikimedia.org On Dec 5, 2010, at 4:03 PM, Andrew Garrett wrote: On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 5:32 AM, Alec Conroy alecmcon...@gmail.com wrote: I just wanted to write in to compliment all those who are behind the banners on the site right now-- Personal Appeals from individual editors with inspiring visions about how Wikimedia can help change the world for the better. I'm also a huge, huge fan of these new banners. When can we get them in Australia? :-) -- Andrew Garrett http://werdn.us/ ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraiser statistics
I think it's important to point out that we are, in fact, using community input :) For instance, the editor appeals that are being tested were suggested by community members and written by community members pb On Dec 1, 2010, at 4:39 AM, KIZU Naoko wrote: Time to use community input? There have been lots of suggestions and ideas on banners on eta... On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Przykuta przyk...@o2.pl wrote: Hmm. We need change strategy. Banners work well, but without changes - you know. http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Special:FundraiserStatistics przykuta ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- KIZU Naoko / 木津尚子 member of Wikimedians in Kansai / 関西ウィキメディアユーザ会 http://kansai.wikimedia.jp ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraiser statistics
Hey gang, We're testing editor appeals right now. We've got the click throughs where we need them, it's just a matter of polishing the letter. :) Once we've got that, we're in good shape there, and can move on to our next phase, which is a campaign update, probably from Sue, with the introduction of a graphical thermometer treatment (though this is all fairly preliminary) This is exactly as we expected... we knew there would be several phases to this campaign, and we're hitting them just almost exactly when we thought we would. :) pb ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. pbeaude...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://donate.wikimedia.org On Dec 1, 2010, at 3:25 PM, Mono mium wrote: We certainly do need a holiday push, though - there are plenty of great suggestions that would really bring things in. How about trying something different? Mono On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Brian J Mingus brian.min...@colorado.eduwrote: On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Przykuta przyk...@o2.pl wrote: Hmm. We need change strategy. Banners work well, but without changes - you know. http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Special:FundraiserStatistics przykuta I'm not sure that the drop can be attributed to a lack of effectiveness in the banners. I expect us to raise significantly more this year due to an increase in readership, but I think most people that wanted to contribute in the past with the less-than-optimal banners eventually did. Now that we have a much more effective personal appeal, those who want to contribute do it sooner rather than later. - Brian But look on the Christmas days in 2008 and 2009... The banner was changed. przykuta That fits with what I said - a more effective banner will cause some people who would have donated at another time with a less effective banner to donate now. It's certainly true that a more effective banner will draw in some new donors, but with a more effective banner system the donation rate we are seeing makes sense. We convinced everyone who usually donates to donate right away, and now there are fewer donations per day as a result. - Brian ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] should not web server logs (of requests) be published?
On Nov 29, 2010, at 9:39 PM, James Alexander jameso...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 12:13 AM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: So it is your belief, that the WMF is not accountable at all to it's volunteers, such as editors? Just to its donors? I prefer contributers or simply the community. Donors, editors, admins, volunteers whatever name you want to call them are all part of that. Some people can't give monetarily (or don't want to) some can't (or don't want to) give with their time. They are all part of the community that drives the projects forward. I'm going to do something I rarely do: try to speak for others. At the Foundation offices, I think it is safe to say that every one of us feels a deep sense of accountability to the mission, to our coworkers, and to contributors of all types: financial, knowledge, editor, administrator, developer, and to our readers. I have never worked with a more focused and intensely mission driven group. I say this as the person running the contribution campaign, and as a long term editor. To suggest that the WMF (which means what, exactly, in this context? Staff? Mailing list participants?) does not feel accountable to anyone but donors is to make a careless generalization, and one that borders on trolling. The people who make up the staff and the volunteers of our projects are driven and give tremendously of their time. I defy anyone to find me a single one of them who only feels accountable to donors. You can't. I guarantee it. Philippe ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] A question for American Wikimedians
We tested Kartika earlier this week, and it did very very well. So we're putting together a campaign based around editor appeals, and many of the folks we have are not ... well, people who look like me. So I'm very happy about that. pb ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. pbeaude...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://donate.wikimedia.org On Nov 17, 2010, at 3:28 PM, George Herbert wrote: Thanks, Sue. Obligatory current event tie-in - Could we get a more multi-ethnic I am a Wikipedian campaign going for the fundraising drive? As attractive looking as Jimmy is, the community isn't a million clones of him. Seeing more of the variety would certainly help attract attention, I think. On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Sue Gardner sgard...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 17 November 2010 13:35, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: For some time I am a bit puzzled by the fact that I don't know any African American Wikimedian. For some time just because I am living in a European country without African population, so everything seemed to me quite normal for a long time. Oh gosh, I want to jump in here too, super-fast. Good question, Milos :-) I think the answer to this question is complicated, but known/knowable. Essentially I think it's fairly obvious that US Wikimedians are disproportionately male and disproportionately white -- like Phoebe, that's definitely been my own anecdotal experience in meeting Wikipedians, and although the people we meet face-to-face may not be perfectly representative of all Wikipedians, we don't have any reason to think the actual US Wikimedia editor population is dramatically different from the people we happen to meet. I would attribute the maleness and whiteness mostly to the tech-centricity of the Wikimedia community. We know it's a tech-centric group, presumably because editors were in the beginning early adopter types, and continuing because the editing interface is still relatively non-user-friendly. And we know that the tech community in general (in the United States) skews male, white and Asian ... And that that is self-reinforcing over time. In fact, this research http://www.siliconvalley.com/news/ci_14383730?nclick_check=1forced=true found that blacks, Latinos and women are losing ground in (Silicon Valley) tech, not gaining it. I would expect that all the factors that skew tech community demographics, have a big overlap with the factors that skew Wikimedia community demographics. There's lots of good research and thinking about that. (For example, the book Unlocking the Clubhouse has lots of good thinking about gender, and some about African-Americans and Latino-Americans.) There is lots of available information. We *do* know -- both anecdotally and statistically, based on the readership to editorship conversion rates -- that all Wikipedians are outliers: we are all unusual in some way. It is not common to both want to participate in a wiki project and then to expend significant amounts of time doing so, and we more or less know the general reasons why someone does become a Wikipedian. These motivations, from what I can tell, cut across nationality and gender and all other possible categories: and I've been wondering if we've been going about this diversity discussion rather the wrong way for a long time -- if we should focus not on why so few people out of the general population participate, but rather who is likely to make a good Wikipedian and how we can encourage them, in all circumstances.* I agree with Phoebe. Wikimedians are unusual in many ways. There's probably no point in Wikimedia trying to recruit general-population women or African-Americans or Latino-Americans. We are likelier to succeed if we aim to recruit women, African-Americans and Latino-Americans who share some of the common Wikimedia characteristics -- like, a base level of good comfort with technology, a passion for learning, love of language/words/text, unusually high intelligence, a good base level of self-confidence, sufficient leisure time and inclination to volunteer, and so forth. My two cents, written fast :-) Sue ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- -george william herbert george.herb...@gmail.com ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe
Re: [Foundation-l] Banners inviting people to edit.
I believe that's in the works as well :) ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. pbeaude...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://donate.wikimedia.org On Nov 16, 2010, at 5:06 AM, Pharos wrote: It would also be great if we could have banners inviting people to participate in major local community events, like the many Wikipedia 10 celebrations planned for January. http://ten.wikipedia.org Thanks, Pharos On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 7:05 AM, Daniel ~ Leinad danny.lei...@gmail.com wrote: One of Polish banners has intent to invite people to edit: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2010/Messages/Language/pl#Korzystasz_z_Wikipedii.3F -- Leinad ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Report from Day 1 of technical testing
Almost 22 hours ago, we turned on the 2010-11 contribution campaign for a weekend of functional testing prior to launch. We launched cleanly, I'm pleased to say - there were a few initial hiccups (around the size of the graphic used in the banner, and our ability to pull numbers out of the database for reporting) but they're resolved or being resolved nicely. The new cluster of servers for supporting the traffic is behaving nicely. In the last 22 hours, we've accepted about $510,000 directly to the Foundation. I don't yet have numbers from the chapters to report. The Foundation's donors alone represent nearly 19,000 individual donors. We launched with three graphic banners, and are pleased with the performance of all of them: we're putting together detailed numbers now and will, as always, report them publicly on the fundraising pages on meta at [[m:FR2010]]. On the whole, a successful start to the testing period, as we anticipate the actual Monday launch. Today we'll be testing banners requested by some chapters, as well as continuing with the Personal Appeal from Jimmy Wales. We're using today and tomorrow to refine and hone systems. I encourage you to check out the donation pages, particularly in non-English, non-US localities, and send your feedback (you can send it directly to me if you'd like) so that we can get them optimized. If you're in an area in which a chapter has control over the donation pages, I'll pass your feedback on to them, or you can write them directly. Thanks, everyone, for bearing with us as we get this thing up and going. I'm very pleased with the performance so far, but as we're still in technical tests, please be on the lookout for anything unusual and report it either by email or in the #wikimedia-fundraising IRC channel. Philippe ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. pbeaude...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://donate.wikimedia.org ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] And if I don't understand Dutch?
Hi Ziko, Each chapter builds their own landing pages, but they have the ability to build them in as many languages as they'd like. In this case, it looks like the Dutch didn't build a German language landing page, and so it defaulted to their dutch language one. :) pb On Nov 12, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Ziko van Dijk wrote: Hello, Just a minute ago I saw the fundraiser sitenotice of this year. A friendly, yet not too friendly, looking Jimmy Wales - much better than the word heavy notices from last year. I am a German living in the Netherlands, my browser is germanized, and I was on the de.wp and clicked on that message in German. But then I got a landingsite in Dutch. Okay, I have heard about the rationale and the negotiations between the Foundation and chapters. Still, what if I am German being by hazard in the Netherlands, and I don't even understand Dutch? At least a button Seite auf Deutsch (or Page in English) would be nice. :-) Kind regards Ziko -- Ziko van Dijk Niederlande ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Fundraiser 2010: A memo to the community
hit our goal - and we will hit our goal - rather than immediately removing all banners, we're going to use some of the banner space (with a reduced banner size, frequency, and using targeted appeals) to ask people to contribute - not financially, but with their knowledge. We will target readers, and encourage them to become editors. It seems logical to us that this reader conversion effort should flow naturally from our fundraising campaign: both are forms of contribution. We also believe that it will yield financial payoff in years to come by embedding new people deeply into our community and instilling them with our key values and an understanding of the greater mission. This is an aggressive campaign. It's an entirely achievable goal, however. The only way to have it work, though, is to have full buy-in from the community. Will you reach out to the people near you (either physically or virtually) and ask them to get involved? Tweet that you donated. Write a blog post about it. Deliver four donations from friends with your own. Help new users who make their first edit as part of the contribution campaign. Here are some key things to know: 1) On November 15, we will launch the fundraiser. 2) You will begin to see banners consistently on the sites beginning on Friday, November 12 as we do full scale functional testing. 3) This is a contribution campaign, celebrating all kinds of contribution. 4) Our numbers are reasonable and attainable, but still a stretch. 5) There will not be success without the full and active engagement of the community. We've billed this as the fundraiser you can edit, and it's true. Community volunteers have been deeply embedded in our planning, including in all of our testing. Community suggested messages were requested and tested. We truly think of this as a fundraiser that is co-created by various parts of the community. There are still ways that you can participate directly, right now. We’re going to test appeal letters from Wikimedia editors. If you think you can write a letter that will beat Jimmy’s, please go to the meta page (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2010/TwoAsks/Write_An_Appeal) and sign up so we know to expect your letter. You can also just send one to me by email: don...@wikimedia.org. I'm honored to be leading the effort this year, and ask you to join with me in making a contribution on the first day of the fundraiser. If you have any questions or comments, I'd love to hear them. Please tell me what you think by writing to don...@wikimedia.org. Best wishes, Philippe PS - for ease of linking, the full text of this memo is at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2010/Updates#4_November:_The_Schedule ___ Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. pbeaude...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://donate.wikimedia.org ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Christine Mellenberndt joins Reader Relations at WMF
Hi all, Most of you are aware that I'm leading the Foundation's annual fundraiser this year, in addition to my work as Head of Reader Relations. It became increasingly obvious to Zack and me that my attention was being split, which was no good for either tasking. The result of that is that we're beefing up our capacity in reader relations, especially with Cary rotating off the job in December. I'm pleased to announce that Christine Moellenberndt has joined the Wikimedia Foundation as a Community Associate, reporting to me, on a temporary appointment through Feb 28. Christine has been a Wikimedia reader for some time, which positions her nicely as someone who can speak for the needs of our readers. Her area of expertise is online communities, which made for a perfect triangulation. She's writing her masters thesis right now, focusing on LiveJournal. She's done a tremendous amount of research over the last week or so, and is hitting the ground running, beginning with internal protocols, and building out scalable support systems. You should consider Christine your first point of contact: I've found that she's one of the few people I've ever met more likely to be online than I am. With that in mind, please do your best to not abuse her, huh? She can be reached on IRC (ChristineM) or by email (cmoellenber...@wikimedia.org or read...@wikimedia.org). Most telephone calls to me will be redirected to her, as well. If there's something urgent that you need me to see, feel free to continue to send it directly to me. Christine will bring questions to me, early on, but I've found her to be a quick study and think she'll be fully functional almost immediately. Best wishes, Philippe Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation phili...@wikimedia.org ofc: +1 415 839 6885 (x 6643) mobile: 918 200 WIKI (9454) Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Community Associates
On Oct 20, 2010, at 5:46 AM, Anirudh Bhati wrote: Who are they and what do they do? Yours sincerely, Anirudh Bhati Community Associate is a title that we've introduced primarily (though not exclusively) for the fundraiser this year. They are temporary employees, generally engaged in making sure that people know about the fundraiser, trying to convince various language wikis to participate in the creation of new banners, working on our social media plan, and a few other things. They also help around the office with posting of contributions to our various systems and general office-related help. Best, Philippe Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation phili...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Community Associates
On Oct 20, 2010, at 11:24 AM, Anirudh Bhati wrote: On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:12 PM, Philippe Beaudette pbeaude...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Oct 20, 2010, at 5:46 AM, Anirudh Bhati wrote: Who are they and what do they do? Yours sincerely, Anirudh Bhati Community Associate is a title that we've introduced primarily (though not exclusively) for the fundraiser this year. They are temporary employees, generally engaged in making sure that people know about the fundraiser, trying to convince various language wikis to participate in the creation of new banners, working on our social media plan, and a few other things. They also help around the office with posting of contributions to our various systems and general office-related help. Thanks for the response, Philippe. (1) Can you please introduce them to the list? (2) Can you please link me to the formal call for applications? Best, Anirudh The announcement process is not mine to own... that's done by HR. It's been our process lately to announce them on the Twitter feed but not on the list. These people all came in as a result of the community call for applications which ran a couple months ago. Philippe ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Help Beat Jimmy! (The appeal, that is....)
. As we know, that’s something that also needs quantitative testing to prove. Sometimes donor response in a focus group and donor activity don’t line up exactly. But, some things already line up with early tests. The more gimmicky the banner, the less likely it is to drive donations even if it increases clicks. Reaction to banners like “572 have donated in New York today” also raised concerns about privacy – not a good reaction in an already suspicious audience. Appeals to “keep us growing” or that highlight a contributor’s work raise earlier concerns about an agenda. Donor Survey Highlights Wikimedia produced a random sample of 20,000 individuals from the much larger number of individuals, from many countries, contributing less than $1000 between November 1 2009 and June 30 2010. These individuals were invited to participate in a 29 item (but around 70 question) survey. 3760 agreed to participate, and the survey was conducted in August 2010. The participants probably differ from those who declined in ways that are associated with survey answers. Hence the respondents do not represent an entirely representative sample of the $1000 donors. The survey participants are committed to Wiki[p/m]edia, visiting it frequently. They say that they are very likely to donate again, and they support all the survey-mentioned reasons for donation. They were not aware of Wikipedia chapters. A majority of respondents did not appear greatly concerned about possible threats to Wikipedia’s identity. About 1/3 of these individuals have edited, though not frequently. Those who express more support for Wikimedia as a cause appear more prone to edit. Those who have not contributed in this way say mostly that they haven’t thought about it--suggesting that they haven’t really considered the possibility—or that they don’t have time. Europeans and the highly educated especially stress lack of time. Some subgroup differences were found within the sample. The likelihood of writing or editing does vary a bit by subgroup, for example. Overall, however, responses did not vary greatly by subgroup, whether “demographic” (nationality, education, sex) or behavioral (e.g., degree of on-line activity). * The full details of the survey can be found at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:FR_Donor_survey_report.pdf * A short overview can be found at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Donor_survey_report_excerpts.pdf . Chapters Chapters will receive the specifics of how we will work with them through their fundraising contacts which were designated on the fundraising survey, in order to keep the information communicated here to the essentials. Testing We have been testing for ten weeks now, and are really pleased with the progress that the tech team has made with new tools to support the fundraiser. Geotargetting appears to work now, and we are currently testing a 1 step versus 2 step donation process. We will have solid test results this week, we believe. In all, we believe that we are - technically and message-wise - in a really good position. We're working out kinks, definitely, but we're working them out before the fundraiser starts, so that we can maximize the dollar-earning potential of every day that we have banners up. We need you From the very beginning, Zack charged me with presenting the most collaborative fundraiser yet. I'm thrilled at the level of involvement from the community, in everything from banner creation to testing structure, to design, to actually sitting on our test fundraisers with us in virtual conferences and being a full participating member of the team. We're reporting out frequently, and trying very hard to engage with members of the community. We have dedicated staff who are outreaching to our various language wikis in an attempt to get ever more broad participation. I strongly encourage you to join in the discussions at the meta pages about the fundraiser: /http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FR2010. Your involvement is not just appreciated - it's crucial. Thanks for sticking through this email - join us in discussion and help us beat the Jimmy appeal! Thanks, Philippe [1] - http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2010/Banner_testing#Test_six_ :_September_23rd.2C_2010 Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation phili...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia
On Oct 3, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Newyorkbrad wrote: And, something I should already know the answer to but just realized I don't, who within the foundation or community makes this type of decisions, anyway? One of the key points that kept being reiterated in the Strategic Planning process was that we have no method for failing well. For saying - we tried this, and it didn't work (I'm not saying that's the case here, but I'm just using this as an example). The community makes the determination to close a language version, putatively, but in practical terms it's proven difficult to do. Generally it's an RfC on Meta. I think the last major contentious one was the Simple English Wikiquote? Once the decision is made, then it falls to the developers to actually flip the switch or say the magic words, or do whatever it is they do to close the project. Philippe Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation phili...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Office hours with Sue Gardner
Hi all, Sue Gardner, the Executive Director of the Wikimedia Foundation, will be having office hours this Thursday (September 30) at 23:00 UTC (16:00 PT, 19:00 ET, 01:00 Friday CEST) on IRC in #wikimedia-office. If you do not have an IRC client, there are two ways you can come chat using a web browser: First, using the Wikizine chat gateway at http://chatwikizine.memebot.com/cgi-bin/cgiirc/irc.cgi. Type a nickname, select irc.freenode.net from the top menu and #wikimedia-office from the following menu, then login to join. Or, you can access Freenode by going to http://webchat.freenode.net/, typing in the nickname of your choice and choosing wikimedia-office as the channel. You may be prompted to click through a security warning, which you can click to accept. Please feel free to forward (and translate!) this email to any other relevant email lists you happen to be on. Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation phili...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Office hours with Danese Cooper
Just a reminder to all that this is upcoming. It's in #wikimedia- office on the freenode network: see below for connection info. Philippe On Sep 16, 2010, at 10:49 PM, Philippe Beaudette wrote: Hi all, Danese Cooper, the open source diva, and Wikimedia's very own Chief Technology Officer, will be our guest at office hours on Wednesday, 22 September at 23:00UTC (16:00 Pacific, 19:00 Eastern, 01:00 Thursday CET). This is a great opportunity to spend time with Danese and talk about her exciting plans for the future of Wikimedia's technological infrastructure. You can access the chat by going to https://webchat.freenode.net/ and filling in a username and the channel name (#wikimedia-office). You may be prompted to click through a security warning. It's fine. Another option is http://chat.wikizine.org. As always, the chat will be logged and put on meta for those who are unable to join. Look forward to seeing you there! Philippe Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation phili...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Office hours with Danese Cooper
Hi all, Danese Cooper, the open source diva, and Wikimedia's very own Chief Technology Officer, will be our guest at office hours on Wednesday, 22 September at 23:00UTC (16:00 Pacific, 19:00 Eastern, 01:00 Thursday CET). This is a great opportunity to spend time with Danese and talk about her exciting plans for the future of Wikimedia's technological infrastructure. You can access the chat by going to https://webchat.freenode.net/ and filling in a username and the channel name (#wikimedia-office). You may be prompted to click through a security warning. It's fine. Another option is http://chat.wikizine.org. As always, the chat will be logged and put on meta for those who are unable to join. Look forward to seeing you there! Philippe Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation phili...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation Fellowship program
Hi all, Please see the Wikimedia Blog (http://blog.wikimedia.org/ ) for an exciting announcement about the Wikimedia Foundation Fellowship program, and the first recipient of a Fellowship, Steven Walling. Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation phili...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Office hours with Sue Gardner
Hi all, Sue Gardner, the Executive Director of the Wikimedia Foundation, will be having office hours this Thursday (September 16) at 17:00 UTC (10:00 PT, 13:00 ET, 19:00 CEST) on IRC in #wikimedia-office. If you do not have an IRC client, there are two ways you can come chat using a web browser: First, using the Wikizine chat gateway at http://chatwikizine.memebot.com/cgi-bin/cgiirc/irc.cgi. Type a nickname, select irc.freenode.net from the top menu and #wikimedia-office from the following menu, then login to join. Or, you can access Freenode by going to http://webchat.freenode.net/, typing in the nickname of your choice and choosing wikimedia-office as the channel. You may be prompted to click through a security warning, which you can click to accept. Please feel free to forward (and translate!) this email to any other relevant email lists you happen to be on. Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation phili...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Update on the fundraiser
Hi everyone, I wanted to just do a quick update to this list about the status of the Fundraiser. As you know, we committed to making this a highly collaborative process, and I'm very pleased with how that's working out so far. We have many banner suggestions from the community (you can view them all at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2010/Messages ) and members of the community are actively engaged in designing our social media strategy. Of course, the Foundation will provide support to those community members. We have begun and continue a process of outreach to the various wikis in our projects: we have a dedicated outreach team that's working to contact every wiki and identify people who are willing to lead the discussions on their home wiki, or engage in the discussion on meta. I want to clarify a couple of things: first, messaging will almost definitely be project specific. That is, without a clear and compelling reason, when reading the banner suggestions, you should assume that Meta or Wikipedia would be replaced with the name of the project you're viewing the banner on. Obviously, some banners are project specific, and those will run ONLY on the appropriate project. (Wikipedia would not get a message targeted at Wiktionary, for instance, and vice versa, but they would both get messages that were tailored for the global projects). Second, when we engage in translating the messages that will be used, we will strongly encourage the communities to not just translate but to actually localize. If the slogan doesn't make sense in Swahili, for instance, we'll ask the translators to help us work with it until it does. One of my colleagues, Sage Ross, a longtime wikimedian, submitted a theme that I love: Edit this fundraiser. That's really what we're shooting for: a fundraiser that we all jointly collaborate to create. We'll have expert support and the group of fundraising professionals that I work with at the Foundation are top notch, but it's very important that there be community engagement. So, please, edit the fundraiser. Suggest banner ideas, and just as importantly, join in the debate about the ones that are suggested! As you probably know, we're doing banner testing on Thursday afternoons (Pacific time). You may not know that we're posting the statistics as quickly as possible, so that the community can help us to evaluate effectiveness. All the stats reports are indexed at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2010/Banner_testing/Stats . The team at the Foundation is working very hard to ensure that we all have the same information upon which to judge the success and failure of the banners. We're engaging in a redesign of the donation process as well, which will simplify the process, we hope. The technical testing for that is beginning now. In addition, we're testing (hopefully this week) the infrastructure for targeting banners at specific geographic locations, which will allow us a great deal more precision in our targeting of messages. On the whole, although there's a ton of work yet to be done, I'm optimistic about our progress so far. What would make it better? If you join in the discussion. Thanks, Philippe Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation phili...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Office hours with Sue Gardner
Just a reminder this is in about 11 hours :) Philippe On Aug 30, 2010, at 10:08 AM, Philippe Beaudette wrote: Hi all, Sue Gardner, the Executive Director of the Wikimedia Foundation, will be having office hours this Tuesday (Aug 31) at 23:00 UTC (16:00 PT, 19:00 ET) on IRC in #wikimedia-office. If you do not have an IRC client, there are two ways you can come chat using a web browser: First is using the Wikizine chat gateway at http://chatwikizine.memebot.com/cgi-bin/cgiirc/irc.cgi. Type a nickname, select irc.freenode.net from the top menu and #wikimedia-office from the following menu, then login to join. Also, you can access Freenode by going to http:// webchat.freenode.net/, typing in the nickname of your choice and choosing wikimedia-office as the channel. You may be prompted to click through a security warning, which you can click to accept. Please feel free to forward (and translate!) this email to any other relevant email lists you happen to be on. Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation phili...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] CHANGE TO OFFICE HOURS
Hi all, Due to some technical issues, Sue will not be doing office hours today. Taking her place will be Barry Newstead, the Chief Global Development Officer for the Wikimedia Foundation. Same time and location. :) pb On Aug 31, 2010, at 5:06 AM, Philippe Beaudette wrote: Just a reminder this is in about 11 hours :) Philippe On Aug 30, 2010, at 10:08 AM, Philippe Beaudette wrote: Hi all, Sue Gardner, the Executive Director of the Wikimedia Foundation, will be having office hours this Tuesday (Aug 31) at 23:00 UTC (16:00 PT, 19:00 ET) on IRC in #wikimedia-office. If you do not have an IRC client, there are two ways you can come chat using a web browser: First is using the Wikizine chat gateway at http://chatwikizine.memebot.com/cgi-bin/cgiirc/irc.cgi. Type a nickname, select irc.freenode.net from the top menu and #wikimedia-office from the following menu, then login to join. Also, you can access Freenode by going to http:// webchat.freenode.net/, typing in the nickname of your choice and choosing wikimedia-office as the channel. You may be prompted to click through a security warning, which you can click to accept. Please feel free to forward (and translate!) this email to any other relevant email lists you happen to be on. Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation phili...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] [Fundraising] Banner testing again
Hi Lodewijk: Yes, we'll be testing geolocation. In the interests of getting the tests in a functional order, we started with a lightweight version, and will be progressively adding levels of complexity as we get closer to the fundraiser. pb On Aug 21, 2010, at 10:55 AM, Lodewijk wrote: Hi Philippe, thanks for this advance warning. I dont recall you sharing this before on this list, but I probably just missed it. Just for the record, I assume you will also be testing the geolocation? (which is most likely one of the things that can break, and therefore important to test - also giving the option to test chapter pages). Since I did not see any call to the chapters to update pages etc, I assume you are going to use last years infrastructure? Best, Lodewijk 2010/8/19 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com: Philippe Beaudette, 19/08/2010 06:00: Just a heads up that Thursday at 22:00 UTC (15:00 Pacific), we'll be running some very light banner testing to make sure that the tools we use for the fundraiser are fully optimized before we launch. We'll also take the opportunity to do a little bit of message testing. The banners will serve to a very low set of editors, but I didn't want you to be surprised if you got one. I put some suggestions on http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2010/Banner_testing (which will hopefully reduce your work). Nemo ___ Fundraising mailing list fundrais...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/fundraising ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Office hours with Sue Gardner
Just a reminder about this, about 13 hours from now. :) On Aug 16, 2010, at 10:15 AM, Philippe Beaudette wrote: Hi all, Sue Gardner, the Executive Director of the Wikimedia Foundation, will be having office hours this Thursday at 17:00 UTC (10:00 PT, 13:00 ET) on IRC in #wikimedia-office. If you do not have an IRC client, there are two ways you can come chat using a web browser: First is using the Wikizine chat gateway at http://chatwikizine.memebot.com/cgi-bin/cgiirc/irc.cgi. Type a nickname, select irc.freenode.net from the top menu and #wikimedia-office from the following menu, then login to join. Also, you can access Freenode by going to http:// webchat.freenode.net/, typing in the nickname of your choice and choosing wikimedia-office as the channel. You may be prompted to click through a security warning, which you can click to accept. Please feel free to forward (and translate!) this email to any other relevant email lists you happen to be on. Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation phili...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Office hours with Sue Gardner
Hi all, Sue Gardner, the Executive Director of the Wikimedia Foundation, will be having office hours this Thursday at 17:00 UTC (10:00 PT, 13:00 ET) on IRC in #wikimedia-office. If you do not have an IRC client, there are two ways you can come chat using a web browser: First is using the Wikizine chat gateway at http://chatwikizine.memebot.com/cgi-bin/cgiirc/irc.cgi. Type a nickname, select irc.freenode.net from the top menu and #wikimedia-office from the following menu, then login to join. Also, you can access Freenode by going to http://webchat.freenode.net/, typing in the nickname of your choice and choosing wikimedia-office as the channel. You may be prompted to click through a security warning, which you can click to accept. Please feel free to forward (and translate!) this email to any other relevant email lists you happen to be on. Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation phili...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Fwd: IRC meeting to discuss fundraiser
Reminder .. the first of these two IRC sessions will take place in a few hours... :) pb Begin forwarded message: From: Philippe Beaudette pbeaude...@wikimedia.org Date: August 9, 2010 8:22:49 PM PDT To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: IRC meeting to discuss fundraiser Hi all, I'd like to have a meeting on IRC this week to discuss the 2010-2011 annual appeal/fundraiser. This will be an anyone is welcome type meeting, open to the broad community. During this, Zack Exley and I will take you through our inital thoughts about the fundraiser and its organization, and ask you to join us in a discussion about the (massive) role of volunteers and chapters in this year's fundraiser. Because of the vagaries of time zones, scheduling live meetings is hard. So, we'll have a couple of potential times, and we'll log and post the meeting for anyone who wasn't able to make it. The meetings will be held Thursday, 12 August at 23:00 UTC (16:00 PDT) and Friday, 13 August at 16:30 UTC (09:30 PDT) in the #wikimedia-fundraising channel on the freenode network on IRC (irc://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-fundraising ). You can access this using freenode's webclient, which is available at http://webchat.freenode.net/ or by using your favorite IRC client. Hope to see you there! Philippe Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation phili...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] IRC meeting to discuss fundraiser
Hi all, I'd like to have a meeting on IRC this week to discuss the 2010-2011 annual appeal/fundraiser. This will be an anyone is welcome type meeting, open to the broad community. During this, Zack Exley and I will take you through our inital thoughts about the fundraiser and its organization, and ask you to join us in a discussion about the (massive) role of volunteers and chapters in this year's fundraiser. Because of the vagaries of time zones, scheduling live meetings is hard. So, we'll have a couple of potential times, and we'll log and post the meeting for anyone who wasn't able to make it. The meetings will be held Thursday, 12 August at 23:00 UTC (16:00 PDT) and Friday, 13 August at 16:30 UTC (09:30 PDT) in the #wikimedia- fundraising channel on the freenode network on IRC (irc://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-fundraising ). You can access this using freenode's webclient, which is available at http://webchat.freenode.net/ or by using your favorite IRC client. Hope to see you there! Philippe Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation phili...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Community Hiring banner
Hi all, Just wanted to report back on the Work at Wikimedia banners that ran on the site the last few days. The idea behind them was to uncover talent for the community department that doesn't necessarily haunt the usual places. We specifically wanted to reach out to people who used the projects, that had new, interesting, or well developed and thought-out ideas for the community department. We knew the banner usage was a little unusual but honestly believed that we'd cast a wider net and turn up some interesting candidates for positions in the community department. I'm pleased to say that we're thrilled with the results. After a few days of running the banner at a relatively low display percentage, we have more than 1500 submissions, many of which are very interesting. It's obviously going to take us some time to look through them, but from our perspective, the banners did what we wanted them to do. With all that said, the comments about the opportunity cost of running those banners on the world's fifth most-viewed web properties is an important one. It's one that we explored and will continue to explore. You may have noticed that we actually tried out two different sizes of banners, as well. I don't have any numbers yet to report as to whether the smaller size of the later banners made a different in the number or quality of the applicants; it's just too early to know. While I'm about to turn off the banners, we want to continue to encourage people to go to the application page ( http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Special:CommunityHiring ), since we're actually turning the banners off in advance of the deadline that we set. However, we continue to look for talented people, and the community hiring page will stay live for the immediate future. Thanks, everyone, for your feedback during this trial. Please look for people that would be interested in sending us their information for jobs in the community department. Best, Philippe Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation phili...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Kicking off the 2010-2011 fundraiser
[[Please distribute widely to various language communities, projects, and chapters]] Hi All, I'd like to begin a conversation about the 2010-2011 Fundraiser, which isn't slated to launch for a few months, but for which we'd like to get community involvement early and often. As you no doubt are aware, the strategic plan calls for the many small gifts model to be the centerpiece of our funding strategy, so our community fundraiser is one of the key methods by which we finance and underwrite the operations of the projects. The fundraiser this year will probably, as in earlier years, be primarily banner driven. We're going to have a strong emphasis on testing and iterating ideas, with a defined methodological testing plan. But the most important part of what we - all of us - are going to need to do is what this community has always been good at: thinking, researching, and iterating. With that in mind, it's important to identify people who want to help. Of course, anyone's welcome to join in and help at any time, but there's a definite need for people who are willing to be deeply involved from now to the wrap up... people who want to be creative but rigorous, innovative but willing to learn from the past, and most of all, to serve as an active part of the team working on this fundraiser. There will, of course, be Foundation staff deeply involved in this, but there's a real need for people from the community to step up and help us design this thing. If you're willing to help, would you add your name to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2010/Committee ? We'll be in contact - soon - to get things started. Thanks, Philippe Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation phili...@wikimedia.org ofc: +1 415 839 6885 (x 643) mobile: 918 200 WIKI (9454) Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] 2010-11 Annual Plan Now Posted to FoundationWebsite
Hiya - I asked Danese, who is currently buried under about 20 pounds of stuff after coming back from Wikimania, to further describe the stakeholder database. Her response is: Sue has a vision for a single master database that tracks our interactions with movement participants. It is intended to help us better respond to requests from individuals by joining all the info we have from prior interactions with that person. This will be particularly important as we grow the staff, because current onboarding time requires long buddy system pairings with existing staff to teach how to best interact. So for instance, if you have had a Wikipedia account since 2005, have made enough edits to become, say, an Admin, have uploaded 100 images to Commons, have been a donor every year and have responded helpfully to many OTRS requests, there should be a quick way for a new staffer to learn those facts. All of this information is available to the staff now, just not in an aggregated place. Danese On Jul 15, 2010, at 12:41 PM, Excirial wrote: I have gone trough the report, and immediately noted the extremely strong growth of the foundation in terms of personal (Nearly doubling the amount two years in a row). Generally i am not a fan of such fast growth as it often leads to bloating; but seeing the the rest of the plan looks fine i presume i am just viewing things to black and white. One particular detail in the Top Spending Increases, continued section raised some question marks for me though. There is a 2.6 million dollar increase in the Other tech staffing and stakeholder database category. I can understand the 10 new tech position and the annualization of existing tech salaries paid by this increase, but what role will the stakeholder database have? The description, development of a database to track relationships with all stakeholders including readers, editors, donors, other volunteers, etc. is rather vague and includes no real indication as to its purpose. What exactly will it track, and what will the information be used for? Since there are so many editors on-wiki i doubt that this will be used as a full-fledged CRM (customer relationship management) system used to track literally everything. All i can imagine is that it could track top level community issues such as flagged revisions or OTRS complains. Anyone who has some more information on this system? I'm quite interested to be honest. Kind regards, ~Excirial On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Oliver Keyes scire.fac...@gmail.comwrote: Now if we only had some kind of mobile device which could be given to such institutions containing a copy! :P. On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com wrote: Samuel Klein wrote: Every national and regional library should have a local copy of Wikimedia. With a full history dump? ;-) Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] 2010-11 Annual Plan Now Posted to FoundationWebsite
I had understood that another use-case for such a database is when an external organisation (e.g. a local library in some city where there is no Chapter presence) asks for a local Wikimedian to come and give a presentation or advice on how to get involved. Such a database (IIRC) should be able to produce a list of people who a) live in that local area, b) are happy/able to give public presentations and c) know about the specific subject being requested e.g. Wikisource. -Liam wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata Sure. There are about a bajillion use cases for it. :) pb ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
