Re: [fpc-other] Anybody using ultra-wide or square monitors for programming?

2015-03-23 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd

Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:

Hello Mark,


On 2015-03-22 21:07, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
No, but an observation if I may. A few months ago I moved from a couple 
of large (in their day) Multisync LCDs mounted flat, to 4x slightly 


I've used two 19 wide screen monitors for 2 years (a couple years back)
and absolutely loved it. I can maybe see myself up to 3 monitors, but 4
seems a bit excessive for work. But I fully appreciate everybody's needs
are different. I would love to see a photo of your setup if you don't
mind sharing. How do you layout your apps?


It's a very basic 2x2 arrangement, which effectively preserves the 
aspect ratio of the constituent screens. Not worth photographing at the 
moment, since one screen has gone down with capacitor plague and is 
awaiting repair (plus point: the others are unaffected). However, a bit 
more on the (Linux) implementation...


I've got two identical machines under my desk and was hoping to be able 
to use xdmx to make a single seamless display. However this turned out 
to be woefully inadequate in terms of both performance and reliability, 
and I ended up with x2x to allow me to share keyboard and mouse and NFS 
for /home and /usr/local. The practical result is that I'm able to e.g. 
run Lazarus on the bottom screens plus an instance of the program for 
testing on the top ones, it's usable but has the major issue that 
cut-and-paste is a hassle.


In light of experience so far, if I had the budget and didn't have a 
development commitment that required multiple machines, I'd lean towards 
a single quiet box under my desk with enough (ATI) cards to drive 4x or 
whatever screens.


[Remainder noted with interest.]

As I said earlier, I'm starting to have problems with visual 
accommodation, my understanding is that it affects everyone as they get 
older, and I think it's worth planning for. What I don't know is whether 
constantly switching focus between near and medium-distance targets 
provides useful exercise or potentially makes things worse.


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Re: [fpc-other] Anybody using ultra-wide or square monitors for programming?

2015-03-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Hello Marco,


On 2015-03-22 20:54, Marco van de Voort wrote:
 I use a 27 Ilyama Prolite fullhd screen rotated to portrait with a
 secondary fullhd screen 

Would you mind sharing a photo of you screens with the apps laid out in
the usual way you work?

Searching the net I see quite a few posts where they mention the same
layout as you. One vertial, one horizontal. But there seems to be a
mixed case between which monitor should contain the IDE (source code) etc.

Regards,
  Graeme
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[fpc-other] Anybody using ultra-wide or square monitors for programming?

2015-03-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Hi,

Anybody using something like the DELL U2913WM ultra-wide 2560x1080
monitor as an alternative to dual monitors? It has a unique aspect ratio
of 21:9 at 29-inch size.

http://www1.euro.dell.com/uk/en/home/Peripherals/dell-u2913wm/pd.aspx?refid=dell-u2913wmcs=ukdhs1s=dhs


Or something like the Eizo FlexScan EV2730Q which is a 27 1920x1920
resolution monitor. Giving you back that critically important vertical
space we lost since wide screen monitors got introduced.

http://www.eizoglobal.com/products/flexscan/ev2730q/index.html


I really like the idea of the Eizo square monitor. Anybody using any of
these (or similar) for programming?


Regards,
  Graeme
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Re: [fpc-other] Anybody using ultra-wide or square monitors for programming?

2015-03-22 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said:
 Or something like the Eizo FlexScan EV2730Q which is a 27 1920x1920
 resolution monitor. Giving you back that critically important vertical
 space we lost since wide screen monitors got introduced.
 
 http://www.eizoglobal.com/products/flexscan/ev2730q/index.html
 
 I really like the idea of the Eizo square monitor. Anybody using any of
 these (or similar) for programming?

I use a 27 Ilyama Prolite fullhd screen rotated to portrait with a
secondary fullhd screen (a cheaper one) for the few cases that rotated
dimensions are annoying for about half an year now.

I'm quite happy about the setup. (for work at home, Delphi, Windows) Not
just the programming benefits, but also e.g.  PDF reading (specs,
datasheets) is improved.

It is just a matter of learning the keybindings to toss apps quickly between
screens for e.g. design work that needs the full width.

If the landscape screen is not in use, I usually have a notepad with notes
or so open in it.

Lazarus is even easier than Delphi, since it has no sidebars to hide or make
autohide. Just make whatever you don't need floating again, and use F11 etc
to pop them up again.

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Re: [fpc-other] Anybody using ultra-wide or square monitors for programming?

2015-03-22 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd

Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:

Hi,

Anybody using something like the DELL U2913WM ultra-wide 2560x1080
monitor as an alternative to dual monitors? It has a unique aspect ratio
of 21:9 at 29-inch size.


No, but an observation if I may. A few months ago I moved from a couple 
of large (in their day) Multisync LCDs mounted flat, to 4x slightly 
smaller displays on adjustable arms that I can form into a pronounced 
curve both horizontally and vertically. I find the new arrangement 
vastly more comfortable, and elsewhere I see comment from other users 
and programmers of a certain age that they're having increasing 
difficulty accommodating screens at varying distances.


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Re: [fpc-other] Anybody using ultra-wide or square monitors for programming?

2015-03-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Hello Mark,


On 2015-03-22 21:07, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
 No, but an observation if I may. A few months ago I moved from a couple 
 of large (in their day) Multisync LCDs mounted flat, to 4x slightly 

I've used two 19 wide screen monitors for 2 years (a couple years back)
and absolutely loved it. I can maybe see myself up to 3 monitors, but 4
seems a bit excessive for work. But I fully appreciate everybody's needs
are different. I would love to see a photo of your setup if you don't
mind sharing. How do you layout your apps?

Since my two monitor setup I have switched to a single DELL U2711 29
monitor. An absolute fantastic monitor with an unbelievable amount of
inputs and a resolution of 2560x1400. My thoughts were that it had a
large enough horizontal resolution to replace the two 19 monitors I
had, and has pretty decent vertical resolution too. It also takes up
less desk space. In large it worked out exactly like that. It is pretty
common for me to have my email client and web browser side by side. But
I still use 4 virtual desktops too (thanks to X11). 3 years down the
line and I still love the U2711, but I still desire more horizontal and
vertical space. Rotating this monitor on its side just looks
ridiculously tall - and then too narrow to.

I read somewhere that the good old 4:3 ratio monitors from years back
had a lot more usable pixels than the initial wide screen monitors. Not
sure if that still holds true for the latest breed of wide screen
monitors. But every time I walk into a hospital and see those 4:3 LCD
monitors I am amazed at the good screen layout and vertical space. It
just looks so appealing. So seeing the availability of the 1920x1920
Eizo makes my heart pound! Plus 78% more pixels that a Full HD
(1920x1080) monitor as standard. Now that sounds like a dream come true
for me. Maybe even that in a dual monitor setup. :-D

Regards,
  Graeme

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