RE: Kerning of space in FrameMaker
Hi Berny, To answer your question, yes, FrameMaker is capable of recognizing the modified kerning. Just have to turn on the Pair Kern on the character designer and it is fine... EXCEPT FOR ONE THING: It does not work with the space character. That is what I am trying to resolve. I kerned (in FontLab) the f and the space character so the top right serif of the f does not lean over the space too much and does not touch the next word. However FrameMaker does not show this neither on screen nor in printed format. Unlike Word or InDesign. I tried it with Type 1 and OpenType fonts. None works. Maybe the space character itself is not part of the 256 ANSI characters??? I definitely do not see it on the Character Map. But it is sure part of the font when I do the kerning pairs. Do you have any further data on this? Or someone on the list? Best, Greg Hi Greg, This is just a stab in the dark but is FrameMaker capable of recognizing the modified kerning? FrameMaker is Unicode blind and as such cannot see anything beyond the standard ANSI 256 characters. After the registry song and dance I had to do to get it to recognize Cyrillic and Baltic glyphs in my Myriad Pro fonts, I'm not so sure it's capable of reading the kerning changes, so it defaults to the standard for that font. InDesign and Word, on the other hand, are Unicode savvy, so I'm not surprised they sees the changes. Is this an OpenType font by any chance? Berny Gagni Sr. Technical Writer Husky Injection Molding Systems Bolton, Ontario, Canada --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.859 / Virus Database: 585 - Release Date: 2/14/2005 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Kerning of space in FrameMaker
Greg: I'm sure you realize that your custom kerning only works with the font you modify. You'd need to embed the font in PDFs you provide, to assure the same result for your recipients. Have you considered replacing final-f+space sequences in your documents with something like final-f+thin space+space, or final-f+en space, to avoid the overhang? To answer your question, yes, FrameMaker is capable of recognizing the modified kerning. Just have to turn on the Pair Kern on the character designer and it is fine... EXCEPT FOR ONE THING: It does not work with the space character. That is what I am trying to resolve. I kerned (in FontLab) the f and the space character so the top right serif of the f does not lean over the space too much and does not touch the next word. However FrameMaker does not show this neither on screen nor in printed format. Unlike Word or InDesign. -- Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: OT: Word to PDF
Not completely accurate, Art. The weakest PDF tool is PDFWriter, which is not an issue here. Both PDFMaker and the Adobe PDF printer instance are installed as part of the Adobe Acrobat tool suite, and both of them use Acrobat Distiller (although they do it under the hood or behind the curtain). The advantage of the PDFMaker tool is that it preserves at least some of the hyperlinks from the Word file, although those are often the features that cause the kind of problem Tammy reported. But there is no significant difference between printing to file using the Adobe PDF driver and then explicitly distilling versus simply printing to the Adobe PDF printer and letting it automatically pipe the PostScript to Distiller. And it's generally bad advice to recommend the use of any printer driver other than the Adobe PDF driver when you're making PDF. For one thing, that's the single most common cause of losing colors in the PDF. My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Art Campbell Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 12:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: framers@frameusers.com Subject: Re: OT: Word to PDF Well, your methodology is using the two weakest .pdf tools. If you have Distiller, print the Word file to a PostScript printer and specify print to file. Then distill it manually to see if that helps. Also, the Adobe Acrobat user forum on the Adobe site would probably have some helpful info. Art On 1/11/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Windows XP Adobe Acrobat Professional 6.0 MS Word 2002 Inherited a Word doc with 143 pages, 2.99 MB that I need to convert to PDF. I have done a Save As and renamed to preserve the original and ensure that I know it is a Word 2002 doc that I am working with. I have done everything I know in my power to get this sucker to convert to a PDF -Wwithin Word using both PDFMaker and the Adobe PDF Printer. I have also tried from within Adobe Acrobat and no matter what I do, barf, crash, bang . .. I cannot get this document to convert. I get the classic error message about flushing offending stack and not producing the PDF. What should I be looking for/troubleshooting in this otherwise fruitless endeavor? -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/fred.ridder%40intel. com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Kerning of space in FrameMaker
Hi Berny, To answer your question, yes, FrameMaker is capable of recognizing the modified kerning. Just have to turn on the "Pair Kern" on the character designer and it is fine... EXCEPT FOR ONE THING: It does not work with the space character. That is what I am trying to resolve. I kerned (in FontLab) the f and the space character so the top right serif of the f does not lean over the space too much and does not touch the next word. However FrameMaker does not show this neither on screen nor in printed format. Unlike Word or InDesign. I tried it with Type 1 and OpenType fonts. None works. Maybe the space character itself is not part of the 256 ANSI characters??? I definitely do not see it on the Character Map. But it is sure part of the font when I do the kerning pairs. Do you have any further data on this? Or someone on the list? Best, Greg Hi Greg, This is just a stab in the dark but is FrameMaker capable of recognizing the modified kerning? FrameMaker is Unicode blind and as such cannot see anything beyond the standard ANSI 256 characters. After the registry song and dance I had to do to get it to recognize Cyrillic and Baltic glyphs in my Myriad Pro fonts, I'm not so sure it's capable of reading the kerning changes, so it defaults to the standard for that font. InDesign and Word, on the other hand, are Unicode savvy, so I'm not surprised they sees the changes. Is this an OpenType font by any chance? Berny Gagni Sr. Technical Writer Husky Injection Molding Systems Bolton, Ontario, Canada --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.859 / Virus Database: 585 - Release Date: 2/14/2005
Kerning of space in FrameMaker
Greg: I'm sure you realize that your custom kerning only works with the font you modify. You'd need to embed the font in PDFs you provide, to assure the same result for your recipients. Have you considered replacing "final-f+space" sequences in your documents with something like "final-f+thin space+space," or "final-f+en space," to avoid the overhang? >To answer your question, yes, FrameMaker is capable of recognizing the >modified kerning. Just have to turn on the "Pair Kern" on the character >designer and it is fine... > >EXCEPT FOR ONE THING: > >It does not work with the space character. That is what I am trying to >resolve. > >I kerned (in FontLab) the f and the space character so the top right serif >of the f does not lean over the space too much and does not touch the next >word. However FrameMaker does not show this neither on screen nor in printed >format. Unlike Word or InDesign. -- Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices peter at knowhowpro.com
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OT: Word to PDF
Well, your methodology is using the two weakest .pdf tools. If you have Distiller, print the Word file to a PostScript printer and specify "print to file." Then distill it manually to see if that helps. Also, the Adobe Acrobat user forum on the Adobe site would probably have some helpful info. Art On 1/11/06, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote: > Windows XP > Adobe Acrobat Professional 6.0 > MS Word 2002 > > Inherited a Word doc with 143 pages, 2.99 MB that I need to convert to > PDF. I have done a Save As and renamed to preserve the original and ensure > that I know it is a Word 2002 doc that I am working with. I have done > everything I know in my power to get this sucker to convert to a PDF > -Wwithin Word using both PDFMaker and the Adobe PDF Printer. I have also > tried from within Adobe Acrobat and no matter what I do, barf, crash, bang > . .. I cannot get this document to convert. I get the classic error > message about flushing offending stack and not producing the PDF. > > What should I be looking for/troubleshooting in this otherwise fruitless > endeavor? -- Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358
OT: Word to PDF
Not completely accurate, Art. The weakest PDF tool is PDFWriter, which is not an issue here. Both PDFMaker and the Adobe PDF printer instance are installed as part of the Adobe Acrobat tool suite, and both of them use Acrobat Distiller (although they do it "under the hood" or "behind the curtain"). The advantage of the PDFMaker tool is that it preserves at least some of the hyperlinks from the Word file, although those are often the features that cause the kind of problem Tammy reported. But there is no significant difference between printing to file using the Adobe PDF driver and then explicitly distilling versus simply printing to the Adobe PDF printer and letting it automatically pipe the PostScript to Distiller. And it's generally bad advice to recommend the use of any printer driver other than the Adobe PDF driver when you're making PDF. For one thing, that's the single most common cause of losing colors in the PDF. My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 12:21 PM To: Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com Cc: framers at frameusers.com Subject: Re: OT: Word to PDF Well, your methodology is using the two weakest .pdf tools. If you have Distiller, print the Word file to a PostScript printer and specify "print to file." Then distill it manually to see if that helps. Also, the Adobe Acrobat user forum on the Adobe site would probably have some helpful info. Art On 1/11/06, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote: > Windows XP > Adobe Acrobat Professional 6.0 > MS Word 2002 > > Inherited a Word doc with 143 pages, 2.99 MB that I need to convert to > PDF. I have done a Save As and renamed to preserve the original and ensure > that I know it is a Word 2002 doc that I am working with. I have done > everything I know in my power to get this sucker to convert to a PDF > -Wwithin Word using both PDFMaker and the Adobe PDF Printer. I have also > tried from within Adobe Acrobat and no matter what I do, barf, crash, bang > . .. I cannot get this document to convert. I get the classic error > message about flushing offending stack and not producing the PDF. > > What should I be looking for/troubleshooting in this otherwise fruitless > endeavor? -- Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as fred.ridder at intel.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/fred.ridder%40intel. com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
