RE: Esc m p for anchored frames?
I always remember it as Make Phit... -Niels - -Original Message- - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - On Behalf Of Pat Christenson - Sent: 9. februar 2006 08:44 - To: framers List - Subject: Re: Esc m p for anchored frames? - - When I taught this shortcut in one of my FrameMaker classes, - someone suggested it stood for Make Perfect. - - I've always liked that and it makes the shortcut easier to remember. - - Pat Christenson - - ___ - - - You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - To unsubscribe send a blank email to - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - or visit - http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/nfa%40maconomy.dk - - Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit - http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. - ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: TOC page no. fonts
Changing TOC number format: On the Reference page in the TOC file, apply a character format to the $pagenum variable for the paragraph format in question. Regenerate. Regarding the second question: Umm, fixing a TOC manually certainly is not a good idea - kinda defies the purpose. If you have too many TOC entries, something is amiss in the structure of your doc - like you are making something into a heading (and thus including it in your TOC) without really meaning to... -Niels - -Original Message- - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - On Behalf Of donandjudy1 - Sent: 9. februar 2006 03:44 - To: framers@lists.frameusers.com - Subject: FW: TOC page no. fonts - - Hi, gang: - - Is there any way to format the numbers in a TOC separate - from the Headers? - Otherwise as the Headers vary in font size, so do the page - numbers. I tried going into the master pages and changing - the font only in the building block that called the page - number, but to no avail. - - Also, is there some way to keep certain entries out of the - TOC so that it remains a certain page size? Regeneration - adds to the Roman numerals in the following preface section - and thereby makes the Index incorrect after I drop a page - when manually deleting TOC entries. - - Thanks in advance for all you guys do in answering these e-mails. - - ~ Don Spencer - ___ - - - You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - To unsubscribe send a blank email to - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - or visit - http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/nfa%40maconomy.dk - - Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit - http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. - ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Conditional Pagination
Solution to the pagination problem: Add two extra back cover files to the book One file for the manual that ends with even pages (adds two extra pages) One file for the manual that ends with odd pages (adds one extra page) Create two book files, one for each manual May be the long way around, but it works. Thank you to all for your advise. dominick Dominick A. DeFlorio Senior Technical Writer Plug Power, Inc. 968 Albany-Shaker Road Latham, NY 12110 (518) 738-0389 -Original Message- From: Combs, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 3:34 PM To: DeFlorio, Dominick; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Conditional Pagination Dominick DeFlorio wrote: I'm working with a Frame 7.2 document that is conditioned to produce two different manuals for two different (but similar) products. The last book file contains several schematics that are conditioned for one or the other product. Upon turning off the conditions for one product, several blank pages remain and do not go away after saving the file. (Pagination is configured to delete empty pages.) The caveat to this scenario is that the last page is assigned a custom master page (Back Cover). When I change the page to standard Right/Left master page, the document immediately corrects pagination. I prefer not to cob the last page to force it to work. Is there a more elegant approach to fixing this problem? FM won't delete pages that use a custom master page (or, since it starts deleting empty pages at the end of the file, any non-custom pages followed by a custom page). If you have to have a custom master page, you might be able to make it work using the Apply Master Pages feature. I'm not sure, since I haven't used it. You'd have to be able to change your last page back and forth between the standard master page and the custom page, maybe by importing the appropriate MasterPageMaps table (reference pages). If you have FrameScript, a script could switch out the master pages. Third possibility: Put the back cover into its own one-page file. HTH! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Conditional Pagination
DeFlorio, Dominick wrote: Hi All, I'm working with a Frame 7.2 document that is conditioned to produce two different manuals for two different (but similar) products. The last book file contains several schematics that are conditioned for one or the other product. Upon turning off the conditions for one product, several blank pages remain and do not go away after saving the file. (Pagination is configured to delete empty pages.) The caveat to this scenario is that the last page is assigned a custom master page (Back Cover). When I change the page to standard Right/Left master page, the document immediately corrects pagination. I prefer not to cob the last page to force it to work. Is there a more elegant approach to fixing this problem? Hi Dominick, As you've discovered, assigning custom master pages causes the delete empty pages command to fail. You might look into setting up your master pages via the master page mapping table instead of custom assignment. Then, you could reapply master pages after changing conditions, and THEN save the file. That should cause the correct master page assignment and the correct page deletion. All this assumes that you have a tag that you can hang the put Back Cover here assignment onto. Regards, Sarah PS Answer part two, as always: FrameScript -- # Sarah O'Keefe Scriptorium Publishing Services, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.scriptorium.com Blog: http://www.scriptorium.com/palimpsest/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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RE: Conditional Pagination
I quickly tried it (as I'm under the gun at the moment), but wasn't successful. I'm sure it's in my setup of the mapping table. Don't have time to determine my error, so the extra back page file was an easy work-around. I'll implement the MP Mapping Table when I get a rare quiet moment to learn it. Thank you for your advise. dominick Dominick A. DeFlorio Senior Technical Writer Plug Power, Inc. 968 Albany-Shaker Road Latham, NY 12110 (518) 738-0389 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] .com] On Behalf Of Sarah O'Keefe Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 2:58 PM To: DeFlorio, Dominick; framers@frameusers.com Subject: Re: Conditional Pagination DeFlorio, Dominick wrote: Hi All, I'm working with a Frame 7.2 document that is conditioned to produce two different manuals for two different (but similar) products. The last book file contains several schematics that are conditioned for one or the other product. Upon turning off the conditions for one product, several blank pages remain and do not go away after saving the file. (Pagination is configured to delete empty pages.) The caveat to this scenario is that the last page is assigned a custom master page (Back Cover). When I change the page to standard Right/Left master page, the document immediately corrects pagination. I prefer not to cob the last page to force it to work. Is there a more elegant approach to fixing this problem? Hi Dominick, As you've discovered, assigning custom master pages causes the delete empty pages command to fail. You might look into setting up your master pages via the master page mapping table instead of custom assignment. Then, you could reapply master pages after changing conditions, and THEN save the file. That should cause the correct master page assignment and the correct page deletion. All this assumes that you have a tag that you can hang the put Back Cover here assignment onto. Regards, Sarah PS Answer part two, as always: FrameScript -- # Sarah O'Keefe Scriptorium Publishing Services, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.scriptorium.com Blog: http://www.scriptorium.com/palimpsest/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dominick_deflorio%40 plugpower.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Page size settings
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FM7.0, Win XP. I set up my master pages with frames for left and right pages set at 2.5 cm (top edge) and 27 cm (bottom edge). When viewing the body pages, however, the left page is set at 25.5 cm (bottom), thereby cutting off usable typing space; right-hand pages have the correct setting. Any ideas? I'm not sure what's going on here; your terminology is a little confusing and doesn't match the FM interface. To set a frame's vertical position and size, you specify an Offset From Top (in your case, 2.5cm) and a Height (um, I think you're trying for 24.5cm, as the sum of 2.5 and 24.5 is 27cm). Are these the settings in both left and right frames' Graphics Properties? If the right page frame is correct, you could simply copy and paste it to the left page (after deleting the incorrect frame). If that doesn't work, perhaps you have inadvertently drawn a frame of the wrong dimensions on the body page? HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Get Firefox! http://tinyurl.com/8q9c5 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Structure/Schema - Custom or off the shelf?
I've enjoyed the exchange as well. I also read the thread on the DITA list and stumbled across Tim Bray's opinion last week. (Does anyone else see the irony in the fact that one of the creators of a language that allows you to create your own markup language is telling people not to create their own markup language?) I guess the answer to my original question is a resounding it depends. And only a highly paid consultant would know for sure. : ) Seriously. It seems that the common ground is that before you can decide, you have to do the analysis. If you're requirements are close to an established schema, start with one of those. Otherwise, you're better off creating your own (provided you have the resources or talent available to generate the final outputs. Thanks Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] om] On Behalf Of Alan Houser Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 12:06 PM To: Framers@FrameUsers.com Subject: Re: Structure/Schema - Custom or off the shelf? Hi Marcus, I've enjoyed our exchange. The contrast between Micheal's and Eliot's opinions is fascinating, and insightful. Eliot has a long-standing reputation in the markup languages community, while Michael's reputation is solid as a designer of DITA and much of the underlying XSLT processing required to implement the DITA architecture. Yet they disagree. To add yet another opinion to the mix, Tim Bray, a co-author of the XML recommendation, warns of the requisite effort and risks in designing any new substantial markup vocabulary, and advises readers to begin by evaluating the capabilities of the big five proven XML vocabularies (I would add DITA to his list). http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2006/01/08/No-New-XML-Languages . Why does Michael advocate using DITA out-of-the-box? I can't speak for him, but I suspect the answer lies at least partially in the size and structure of IBM's product development teams, which resemble small-to-medium software companies more than tightly-integrated members of a $150+ billion dollar enterprise. I tend to agree with you and Eliot for XML implementations in which the business requirements mandate a substantially new vocabulary, and the budget supports the necessary development and implementation effort. However, many (especially smaller) organizations face business needs that can be met by subsetting DocBook or using DITA as-is or nearly so. In addition, these vocabularies provide the necessary processing toolkits for generating output. The latter can be a complex, costly effort that is often out-of-reach of smaller organizations who are evaluating a migration to XML-based publishing. This range of needs and budgets reminds me of an exchange I had in the exhibit hall at last year's STC conference in Seattle. I approached one of the well-known content management vendors, and said Do you have a solution in the mid-five figures [U.S. dollars]? If so, I could recommend it to many of my clients. He replied enthusiastically, Yes, most of our implementations are in the half-million dollar range, then proceeded to rattle off several members of the Fortune 100. I listened politely before moving on to the next booth. -Alan Marcus Carr wrote: Alan Houser wrote: DITA architect Michael Priestley (a co-author of the 2001 paper you cited) has more recently addressed the misconception that DITA is an exchange format, not an authoring format (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dita-users/message/1081). My anecdotal experience matches Michael's -- that about half of all implementations use the DITA DTD out of the box for content authoring. This showed up in a conference plug recently and I revisited the link that Alan provided to Michael Priestly's posting. Out of interest, I looked at the post to which Michael had replied, and found it was a very good email from Eliot Kimber - one of the long-term industry experts going well back into the SGML days. His explanation is far better than mine was, but echoed much of the same sentiment. If you're interested, have a look at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dita-users/message/1080. -- --- Alan Houser, President Group Wellesley, Inc. 412-363-3481 www.groupwellesley.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mike.feimster%40acstechn ologies.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and
RE: Conditional Pagination
Third possibility: Put the back cover into its own one-page file. A horrible suggestion IMNSHO, but it works. ;-) Bodvar, Care to elaborate? Mike ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Conditional Pagination
I might be wrong, but I think you can avoid this by forcing the next-to-last file in the book to have odd page numbers. Then, your final file would just have one page, and would make the total page count to be even. Thus, it's the second-to-last file in the book that would flex (adding a blank page when necessary to make the page count odd), and that could be done automatically. You could thereby avoid the dual-book approach. Regards, Seraphim ___ Seraphim Larsen CIG Operations / TPPE Senior Technical Writer Intel Corporation (480) 552-6504 Chandler, AZ The content of this message is my personal opinion only. Although I am an employee of Intel, the statements I make here in no way represent Intel's position on the issue, nor am I authorized to speak on behalf of Intel on this matter. ___ -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+theorem37=gmail@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+theorem37=gmail.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of DeFlorio, Dominick Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 5:39 AM To: Combs, Richard; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Conditional Pagination Solution to the pagination problem: Add two extra back cover files to the book One file for the manual that ends with even pages (adds two extra pages) One file for the manual that ends with odd pages (adds one extra page) Create two book files, one for each manual May be the long way around, but it works. Thank you to all for your advise. dominick Dominick A. DeFlorio Senior Technical Writer Plug Power, Inc. 968 Albany-Shaker Road Latham, NY 12110 (518) 738-0389 -Original Message- From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 3:34 PM To: DeFlorio, Dominick; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Conditional Pagination Dominick DeFlorio wrote: > I'm working with a Frame 7.2 document that is conditioned to produce > two different manuals for two different (but similar) products. The > last book file contains several schematics that are conditioned for > one or the other product. Upon turning off the conditions for one > product, several blank pages remain and do not go away after saving > the file. > (Pagination is configured to delete empty pages.) The caveat to this > scenario is that the last page is assigned a custom master page (Back > Cover). When I change the page to standard Right/Left master page, > the document immediately corrects pagination. I prefer not to cob the > last page to force it to work. Is there a more elegant approach to > fixing this problem? FM won't delete pages that use a custom master page (or, since it starts deleting empty pages at the end of the file, any non-custom pages followed by a custom page). If you have to have a custom master page, you might be able to make it work using the Apply Master Pages feature. I'm not sure, since I haven't used it. You'd have to be able to change your last page back and forth between the standard master page and the custom page, maybe by importing the appropriate MasterPageMaps table (reference pages). If you have FrameScript, a script could switch out the master pages. Third possibility: Put the back cover into its own one-page file. HTH! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as theorem37 at gmail.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/theorem37%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
