Re: Variables vs Cross-references vs Text Insets [WAS: Hiding Pages?]

[David Bills]

Eric,

It may not be a relevant issue for you, but our department switched from 
xrefs to variables because the less experienced Frame users kept breaking 
the links and generating unresolved xrefs. We didn't think this would be 
difficult problem to resolve, but a number of the writers kept breaking the 
links after they had been trained, so we changed the way we managed the 
nomenclatures.


The point I'm attempting to make is that large departments, particularly 
those that weigh specialized technical skills and experience higher than 
desktop publishing skills, should factor the Frame capabilities of their 
less skilled Frame users into these types of decisions.


Dave Bills


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Subject: Re: Variables vs Cross-references vs Text Insets [WAS: Hiding 
Pages?]



The text content of a cross-reference is limited by what you can build
using the Xref building blocks. It may be possible to have a Xref that
produces multiple paragraphs (Using \R in the def?) but I doubt it would
be workable.

But to combine multiple paragraphs, you need to have information that's
consistently tagged and organised. Then, it's only really workable to
create strings as I have done.

For multiple paras, I'd stick to insets.

Eric L. Dunn
Senior Technical Writer

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wrote on 06/09/2006 10:41:06 AM:


No...I've imported documents that were hundreds of pages long into
another document.



Of course, everything has a limit...maybe a million pages might be a
problem?



 than one chapter.  Is there a limit to how much text you can insert
 with a cross reference?  My introductions often are two or three
 paragraphs.




John Posada
Senior Technical Writer



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Where to find instructions for creating a watermark

[Linda Sachs]

I need to add a watermark that says DRAFT on all pages of multiple books. 

The FrameMaker help does not mention this anywhere.

Besides using Framescripts, which the company I work for will not purchase,
how else can you do this?

Any help would be most appreciated.



Linda Sachs

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Re: Where to find instructions for creating a watermark

[John Posada]

 I need to add a watermark that says DRAFT on all pages of
 multiple books. 
 
 The FrameMaker help does not mention this anywhere.
 
 Besides using Framescripts, which the company I work for will not
 purchase, how else can you do this?

We put an anchored frame centered on each master page, put an image
with the word Draft, and apply a Draft conditional to the frame. Just
before release, we turn off the Draft conditional, which hides the
Draft image



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Re: Where to find instructions for creating a watermark

[Art Campbell]

If you want to do it in Frame, the strategy would be to create a Master page(s)
with either a background text frame with DRAFT in it or a graphic with the text.
(see Master page / background objects in help)

Applying it gets a little tricky. If you have a master template that
you can apply
to all the books, you're in good shape. Make a copy of the template, modify the
master pages with the text, and apply it at the book level.

If you're using multiple designs and templates though, you're probably going to
have to do each book manually.

John's suggestion of using Conditional Text to turn it on and off has merit too.

* A number of printers support this functionality. My HP, for
instance, allows you
to add a watermark, which may be a lot cleaner/easier solution if you
can't easily
update your template / master pages. I think you can also do this in PostScript
if you're printing to .pdf.

* And as a further aside, I add the draft information to the footer of
each page with
a variable instead of messing with the background at all. When the
book goes final
and is ready to print, the part number takes the place of the draft notice.

Art

Then you'd have to

On 6/10/06, Linda Sachs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I need to add a watermark that says DRAFT on all pages of multiple books.

The FrameMaker help does not mention this anywhere.

Besides using Framescripts, which the company I work for will not purchase,
how else can you do this?

Any help would be most appreciated.



Linda Sachs

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Re: Where to find instructions for creating a watermark

[Mike Wickham]

I need to add a watermark that says DRAFT on all pages of multiple 
books.
If you're creating PDFs, you can also do it in Acrobat: Document Add 
Watermark and Background.


Mike Wickham


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Variables vs Cross-references vs Text Insets [WAS: Hiding Pages?]

[David Bills]

Eric,

It may not be a relevant issue for you, but our department switched from 
xrefs to variables because the less experienced Frame users kept breaking 
the links and generating unresolved xrefs. We didn't think this would be 
difficult problem to resolve, but a number of the writers kept breaking the 
links after they had been trained, so we changed the way we managed the 
nomenclatures.

The point I'm attempting to make is that large departments, particularly 
those that weigh specialized technical skills and experience higher than 
desktop publishing skills, should factor the Frame capabilities of their 
less skilled Frame users into these types of decisions.

Dave Bills


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From: 
To: "John Posada" 
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: Variables vs Cross-references vs Text Insets [WAS: Hiding 
Pages?]


The text content of a cross-reference is limited by what you can build
using the Xref building blocks. It may be possible to have a Xref that
produces multiple paragraphs (Using \R in the def?) but I doubt it would
be workable.

But to combine multiple paragraphs, you need to have information that's
consistently tagged and organised. Then, it's only really workable to
create strings as I have done.

For multiple paras, I'd stick to insets.

Eric L. Dunn
Senior Technical Writer

framers-bounces+eric.dunn=ca.transport.bombardier.com at lists.frameusers.com
wrote on 06/09/2006 10:41:06 AM:

> No...I've imported documents that were hundreds of pages long into
> another document.

> Of course, everything has a limit...maybe a million pages might be a
> problem?

> > than one chapter.  Is there a limit to how much text you can insert
> > with a cross reference?  My introductions often are two or three
> > paragraphs.

>
> John Posada
> Senior Technical Writer

> "So long and thanks for all the fish."
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Where to find instructions for creating a watermark

[Linda Sachs]

I need to add a watermark that says "DRAFT" on all pages of multiple books. 

The FrameMaker help does not mention this anywhere.

Besides using Framescripts, which the company I work for will not purchase,
how else can you do this?

Any help would be most appreciated.



Linda Sachs

Where to find instructions for creating a watermark

[John Posada]

> I need to add a watermark that says "DRAFT" on all pages of
> multiple books. 
> 
> The FrameMaker help does not mention this anywhere.
> 
> Besides using Framescripts, which the company I work for will not
> purchase, how else can you do this?

We put an anchored frame centered on each master page, put an image
with the word Draft, and apply a Draft conditional to the frame. Just
before release, we turn off the Draft conditional, which hides the
Draft image



John Posada
Senior Technical Writer

"So long and thanks for all the fish."

Where to find instructions for creating a watermark

[Art Campbell]

If you want to do it in Frame, the strategy would be to create a Master page(s)
with either a background text frame with DRAFT in it or a graphic with the text.
(see Master page / background objects in help)

Applying it gets a little tricky. If you have a master template that
you can apply
to all the books, you're in good shape. Make a copy of the template, modify the
master pages with the text, and apply it at the book level.

If you're using multiple designs and templates though, you're probably going to
have to do each book manually.

John's suggestion of using Conditional Text to turn it on and off has merit too.

* A number of printers support this functionality. My HP, for
instance, allows you
to add a watermark, which may be a lot cleaner/easier solution if you
can't easily
update your template / master pages. I think you can also do this in PostScript
if you're printing to .pdf.

* And as a further aside, I add the draft information to the footer of
each page with
a variable instead of messing with the background at all. When the
book goes final
and is ready to print, the part number takes the place of the draft notice.

Art

Then you'd have to

On 6/10/06, Linda Sachs  wrote:
> I need to add a watermark that says "DRAFT" on all pages of multiple books.
>
> The FrameMaker help does not mention this anywhere.
>
> Besides using Framescripts, which the company I work for will not purchase,
> how else can you do this?
>
> Any help would be most appreciated.
>
>
>
> Linda Sachs
>
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Where to find instructions for creating a watermark

[Mike Wickham]

> I need to add a watermark that says "DRAFT" on all pages of multiple 
> books.
If you're creating PDFs, you can also do it in Acrobat: Document> Add 
Watermark and Background.

Mike Wickham

Where to find instructions for creating a watermark

[Guy K. Haas]

John Posada wrote:
>> I need to add a watermark that says "DRAFT" on all pages of
>> multiple books. 
>>
>> The FrameMaker help does not mention this anywhere.
>>
>> Besides using Framescripts, which the company I work for will not
>> purchase, how else can you do this?
> 
> We put an anchored frame centered on each master page, put an image
> with the word Draft, and apply a Draft conditional to the frame. Just
> before release, we turn off the Draft conditional, which hides the
> Draft image

Another way, in Windows, is that some print drivers let you set 
watermarks under the Properties.

--Guy K. Haas
   Software Exegete in Silicon Valley