Re: Automating the application of Master Pages

2007-05-05 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 23:53 +0200 4/5/07, Michael Müller-Hillebrand wrote:

So for a TOC you could define rules for the (unique) TOC paragraph formats to 
switch to the custom masterpages in single page mode.

This is true, and your approach is valid. However, it is perhaps a special 
case, particularly as the original poster, Alexandra Wilowska, is using 
unstructured FrameMaker, making this solution inaccessible to her.

It would be interesting to see if a consensus of 'best practise' appears over 
master page maintenance for books. It is a parallel argument to the one about 
maintaining paragraph and character tags per-document vs. book-wide - another 
issue I can never really decide on myself.

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Steve
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More Elegant Indexing Solution

2007-05-05 Thread Kevin Hunter
Hi everyone,
 
I have a series of user guides where the first few chapters typically include a 
tutorial, and the rest of the guide includes reference information (like for 
each option on each screen, that type of thing). So the first section and the 
last part may have overlapping topics, where in the first section it's more of 
a how-to approach, and in the last, it just tells you what it does. 
 
What I want to do is reflect this elegantly in the index, perhaps by having one 
type of reference in italics, and the standard references (to the reference 
section of the guide) in normal type. Currently I have a bit of a cumbersome 
approach, where in the actual index entries I just put the word (tutorial) into 
the ref. 
 
So what I want is tha instead of having this type of thing:
 
Distribution Rules
  creating new distribution rules, 345
  creating new distribution rules (tutorial), 47
 
to have something like
 
Distribution Rules
   creating new distribution rules, 47, 345
 
(where the 47 is in italics, not sure if that'll come through when I send this 
email).
 
Then, in my How to Use this Guide section, I'd just have to say once that the 
italics indicate references to the tutorial sections.
 
thanks!
 
Kevin 
 
Kevin Hunter
ExcelSystems Software Development, Inc.
BCD International, Inc.
www.bcdsoftware.com
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Fax: (250) 655-1733

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Automating the application of Master Pages

2007-05-05 Thread Michael Müller-Hillebrand
Well, one different opinion here:

I like it very much to have a single template for all documents in a
book. It is also the way FrameMaker Structure Applications work, so it
is a good preparation for your future migration to structured FrameMaker.

Rick's comment about the deletion of extra pages is correct. But the
automatic assignment of master pages first sets all pages to the default
Left/Right and then assigns any custom pages. So for a TOC you could
define rules for the (unique) TOC paragraph formats to switch to the
custom masterpages in "single page" mode. Any extraneous pages will then
be deleted automatically. I hope.

Especially since I use custom scripts to do multi-language template
maintenance, I always use a single template.

- Michael

Am 04.05.2007 15:11, Rick Quatro schrieb/wrote:
> Hi Alexandra,
> 
> I don't favor the Preface Right / Preface Left approach to master pages.
> It is better to have a separate Preface template with the appropriate
> default Left/Right master pages. The main reason is that only blank
> default master pages at the end of the document are deleted when the
> document is saved. Additionally, when new content is added to the
> document, the correct master pages are always applied. While it seems
> appealing to have a single template, the trade off is more work making
> sure that the correct master pages are applied.
> 
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing
> 585-659-8267
> www.frameexpert.com
> 
> 
>> Dear Framers
>>
>> I've just been looking into the automatic Apply Master Pages
>> functionality
>> in FM7.0 for the first time. I'm using unstructured FM on WinXP.

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Automating the application of Master Pages

2007-05-05 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 23:53 +0200 4/5/07, Michael M?ller-Hillebrand wrote:

>So for a TOC you could define rules for the (unique) TOC paragraph formats to 
>switch to the custom masterpages in "single page" mode.

This is true, and your approach is valid. However, it is perhaps a special 
case, particularly as the original poster, Alexandra Wilowska, is using 
unstructured FrameMaker, making this solution inaccessible to her.

It would be interesting to see if a consensus of 'best practise' appears over 
master page maintenance for books. It is a parallel argument to the one about 
maintaining paragraph and character tags per-document vs. book-wide - another 
issue I can never really decide on myself.

-- 
Steve



More Elegant Indexing Solution

2007-05-05 Thread Kevin Hunter
Hi everyone,

I have a series of user guides where the first few chapters typically include a 
tutorial, and the rest of the guide includes reference information (like for 
each option on each screen, that type of thing). So the first section and the 
last part may have overlapping topics, where in the first section it's more of 
a how-to approach, and in the last, it just tells you what it does. 

What I want to do is reflect this elegantly in the index, perhaps by having one 
type of reference in italics, and the standard references (to the reference 
section of the guide) in normal type. Currently I have a bit of a cumbersome 
approach, where in the actual index entries I just put the word (tutorial) into 
the ref. 

So what I want is tha instead of having this type of thing:

Distribution Rules
  creating new distribution rules, 345
  creating new distribution rules (tutorial), 47

to have something like

Distribution Rules
   creating new distribution rules, 47, 345

(where the 47 is in italics, not sure if that'll come through when I send this 
email).

Then, in my How to Use this Guide section, I'd just have to say once that the 
italics indicate references to the tutorial sections.

thanks!

Kevin 

Kevin Hunter
ExcelSystems Software Development, Inc.
BCD International, Inc.
www.bcdsoftware.com
kevinh at excelsystems.com
(250) 655-1766
Fax: (250) 655-1733