help needed with cleanfm batch file

2008-02-25 Thread Diane Gaskill
Hi Dave,

Sorry I did not see your message earlier, I've been swamped at work and not
reading so much home email the past few days.  I'n now trying to catch up on
583 new emails.

Anyway, I wrote the original batch file about 20 years ago as a general
cleanup tool and modified it for just FM files about 15 years ago when I
started using FM.  I posted it on the list a few months ago when somebody
asked how to clean out the backup files from their FM directory.  The trick
to using it is that you have to be IN the directory where the FM files are.
To do that, open a DOS window (cmd.exe) from that directory, then run the
batch file.  If you just open a DOS window in its default directory
(windows\system32) it will try to find the .backup files there, and of
course, that doesn't work.

When I wrote the original batch file, the /s switch had not been implemented
in the DIR or DEL commands, so I used a freebee executable called sweep.com
to do the recursion and get any files in subdirs too.  But it's easier to
just use the /s switch as Syed as shown in his example.

However, I do not think it is necessary to check the list before deleting
backup files. I've never had my batch file  go wrong in 20 years, ever.
Unlike Syed, I use a batch file and do not type it in by hand each time.

Here's the batch file again.

@echo off
echo.
echo   Deleting the following files from the current directory:
dir *.backup.* *.lck
echo.
del *.backup.* *.lck

Let me know if you have any more questions about the file or how to use it.
BTW, if you just type the name of the original batch file CLEAN.BAT (also
attached) without any entries, it displays the help for the file.

Hope this helps,
Diane Gaskill


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Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 11:51 AM
To: Eason, David; Bruce Foster; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: help needed with cleanfm batch file


Using a DOS Command Prompt window ... at the top of the directory tree
with all the FrameMaker documents (or at the root of the drive, if you
really want to do that ... carefully!):

1. First I verify which files are going to get deleted:

dir  *.backup.*  *.lck /s

I check the dir listing result, and once I am sure that only the files
that I want deleted, will get deleted, I do:

del  *.backup.*  *.lck /s

And they are gone! :) The "/s" searches subdirectories below the current
working directory ...

For safety, I use two DOS command prompt batch files ... so I do not
have to worry about typo's in what I type. For example, my batch file
(called "dback.bat") for the deletion has a single line in it:

del  *.backup.*  *.lck  %1%  %2%  %3%  %4%  %5%  %6%  %7%  %8%
%9%

in it. Then I can add *more* files for deletion (like "*.lck" or
"*.tpdf" or "*.ps" ... always with care!) and can also add "/s" to get a
recursive deletion through the directory tree just by saying any of the
following:

dback
dback  /s
dback  *.tpdf
dback  *.tpdf  *.ps
dback  *.tpdf  *.ps  /s

and they all work fine for me.

Z

Dave Reynolds wrote:
> Hi Folks
>
> A month or 3 ago someone posted a batch file to clean up Frame's
backup
> and lock files from a folder.  I kept a copy of the batch file code,
but
> now that I want to use it, I can't find the instructions on how to use
> it.  My manual has expanded and now it is becoming tedious to manually
> delete all those .backup files.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Cheers
>
> Dave
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takes longer to open files on network drv

2008-02-25 Thread Orly Zimmerman
Thank you all for your responses. While your responses are accurate,
they do not explain why the files can be opened on my colleagues PC's
network drive in under 10 seconds, but not on my network drive. 

I'vd asked IT to check my network connections, etc. and they claim all
is well with their network (surprise, surprise...). They're claiming
it's FM that's having trouble. Is there a specific FM config option that
may be slowing down the files that I could check? 



Thanks, 

Orly



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Technical Writer

CPBU Documentation

Marvell DSPC - Petach Tikva



RE: help needed with cleanfm batch file

2008-02-25 Thread Diane Gaskill
Hi Dave,

Sorry I did not see your message earlier, I've been swamped at work and not
reading so much home email the past few days.  I'n now trying to catch up on
583 new emails.

Anyway, I wrote the original batch file about 20 years ago as a general
cleanup tool and modified it for just FM files about 15 years ago when I
started using FM.  I posted it on the list a few months ago when somebody
asked how to clean out the backup files from their FM directory.  The trick
to using it is that you have to be IN the directory where the FM files are.
To do that, open a DOS window (cmd.exe) from that directory, then run the
batch file.  If you just open a DOS window in its default directory
(windows\system32) it will try to find the .backup files there, and of
course, that doesn't work.

When I wrote the original batch file, the /s switch had not been implemented
in the DIR or DEL commands, so I used a freebee executable called sweep.com
to do the recursion and get any files in subdirs too.  But it's easier to
just use the /s switch as Syed as shown in his example.

However, I do not think it is necessary to check the list before deleting
backup files. I've never had my batch file  go wrong in 20 years, ever.
Unlike Syed, I use a batch file and do not type it in by hand each time.

Here's the batch file again.

@echo off
echo.
echo   Deleting the following files from the current directory:
dir *.backup.* *.lck
echo.
del *.backup.* *.lck

Let me know if you have any more questions about the file or how to use it.
BTW, if you just type the name of the original batch file CLEAN.BAT (also
attached) without any entries, it displays the help for the file.

Hope this helps,
Diane Gaskill


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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 11:51 AM
To: Eason, David; Bruce Foster; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: help needed with cleanfm batch file


Using a DOS Command Prompt window ... at the top of the directory tree
with all the FrameMaker documents (or at the root of the drive, if you
really want to do that ... carefully!):

1. First I verify which files are going to get deleted:

dir  *.backup.*  *.lck /s

I check the dir listing result, and once I am sure that only the files
that I want deleted, will get deleted, I do:

del  *.backup.*  *.lck /s

And they are gone! :) The "/s" searches subdirectories below the current
working directory ...

For safety, I use two DOS command prompt batch files ... so I do not
have to worry about typo's in what I type. For example, my batch file
(called "dback.bat") for the deletion has a single line in it:

del  *.backup.*  *.lck  %1%  %2%  %3%  %4%  %5%  %6%  %7%  %8%
%9%

in it. Then I can add *more* files for deletion (like "*.lck" or
"*.tpdf" or "*.ps" ... always with care!) and can also add "/s" to get a
recursive deletion through the directory tree just by saying any of the
following:

dback
dback  /s
dback  *.tpdf
dback  *.tpdf  *.ps
dback  *.tpdf  *.ps  /s

and they all work fine for me.

Z

Dave Reynolds wrote:
> Hi Folks
>
> A month or 3 ago someone posted a batch file to clean up Frame's
backup
> and lock files from a folder.  I kept a copy of the batch file code,
but
> now that I want to use it, I can't find the instructions on how to use
> it.  My manual has expanded and now it is becoming tedious to manually
> delete all those .backup files.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Cheers
>
> Dave
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Copying and pasting text from Frame 8 produces a long text string with font names

2008-02-25 Thread Gorelick, Paula
Dear Framers,

I am using the Structured Product Interface of FrameMaker 8.0 (with
Windows). I just discovered that when I copy text and try to paste it
into an e-mail, instead of just the text I've selected, I get a long
string of font names, which looks like this:

SymbolCourierMarlettArialArial CEArial CYRArial GreekArial TURArial
BalticCourier NewCourier New CECourier New CYRCourier New, etc.

The text I copied appears at the end of this string.

FYI: I'm using Copy (or Ctrl + C), not Copy Special; and Paste (or Ctrl
+ V), not Paste Special.

I can copy and paste the desired text into Notepad, then copy and paste
into the e-mail message, Word, etc. 

Does anyone know what I can do about this new "feature" of Frame 8?

Many thanks in advance,

Paula Gorelick
Editor/Desktop Publisher
T-Mobile USA
Desk: 425.378.6467
Mobile: 206.369.7603
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Copying and pasting text from Frame 8 produces a long text string with font names

2008-02-25 Thread Gorelick, Paula
Dear Framers,

I am using the Structured Product Interface of FrameMaker 8.0 (with
Windows). I just discovered that when I copy text and try to paste it
into an e-mail, instead of just the text I've selected, I get a long
string of font names, which looks like this:

SymbolCourierMarlettArialArial CEArial CYRArial GreekArial TURArial
BalticCourier NewCourier New CECourier New CYRCourier New, etc.

The text I copied appears at the end of this string.

FYI: I'm using Copy (or Ctrl + C), not Copy Special; and Paste (or Ctrl
+ V), not Paste Special.

I can copy and paste the desired text into Notepad, then copy and paste
into the e-mail message, Word, etc. 

Does anyone know what I can do about this new "feature" of Frame 8?

Many thanks in advance,

Paula Gorelick
Editor/Desktop Publisher
T-Mobile USA
Desk: 425.378.6467
Mobile: 206.369.7603
paula.gorelick at t-mobile.com




Using PNG graphics

2008-02-25 Thread Bill Swallow
>  I have many PNG files that come into Frame 8 without difficulty. When the
>  page is printed, however, line weights are heavier than the native file
>  and close-together lines each want to close.
>
>  Any suggestions about importing or publishing that would help render
>  theses graphics more clearly? There are approximately 8,000 line drawings
>  and I don't relish tweaking and resaving them all from the native Corel
>  format.

If these are line drawings, then PNG is the wrong image format. A PNG
is a bitmapped image, not vector. For a clean line drawing in print
(whether from PDF or FM) you should use a vector image format (you'll
have to save out of Corel again, sorry).

A good intro to bitmap vs. vector:

http://graphicssoft.about.com/od/aboutgraphics/a/bitmapvector.htm

-- 
Bill Swallow
HATT List Owner
WWP-Users List Owner
Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter
STC Single-Sourcing SIG Manager
http://techcommdood.blogspot.com


Using PNG graphics

2008-02-25 Thread Art Campbell
Mollye,
Where are the lines looking bad? On screen, in the pdf, printed?

Art

On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Mollye Barrett  wrote:
> Hi All,
>
>  I have many PNG files that come into Frame 8 without difficulty. When the
>  page is printed, however, line weights are heavier than the native file
>  and close-together lines each want to close.
>
>  Any suggestions about importing or publishing that would help render
>  theses graphics more clearly? There are approximately 8,000 line drawings
>  and I don't relish tweaking and resaving them all from the native Corel
>  format.
>
>  Best,
>  Mollye Barrett
>  ClearPath, LLC
>  414-331-1378
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Cross references not converting to PDF hyperlinks

2008-02-25 Thread Fred Ridder

Kelly McDaniel wrote:

> I upgraded to FM8, inherited some FM7 files with cross-book links. The
> output is all PDF. My xrefs nopw fail with "The file can not be found."
> 
> I turned on "Create Named Destinations for All Paragraphs" and respun,
> no fix.
> 
> Any other ideas?

In order for cross-book cross-references to work, you *must* have all
of the referenced book files open in FrameMaker when you generate 
the PDF for the book that contains the x-refs. The component files 
need not be open--just the book file is enough. But without the book
file, FrameMaker has no way to locate the target of the x-ref to 
generate a valid link in the PDF. 

Also note that the PDFs will need to have the same relative locations
as the book files for the links to be valid. If the books are in different 
directories, you'll need to mirror that directory structure when you 
deliver the PDFs. If not, then Acrobat will not be able to find the 
target file when the reader tries to follow an inter-book link.

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Using PNG graphics

2008-02-25 Thread Mollye Barrett
Art,

When printed directly from Frame or a pdf. I compared them the printed png
file and the PageMaker pages where they are currently used.

Mollye


> Mollye,
> Where are the lines looking bad? On screen, in the pdf, printed?
>
> Art
>
> On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Mollye Barrett 
> wrote:

Mollye Barrett
ClearPath, LLC
414-331-1378


Cross references not converting to PDF hyperlinks

2008-02-25 Thread Kelly McDaniel
I'm having the same issue.

I upgraded to FM8, inherited some FM7 files with cross-book links. The
output is all PDF. My xrefs nopw fail with "The file can not be found."

I turned on "Create Named Destinations for All Paragraphs" and respun,
no fix.

Any other ideas?

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-
> bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Doug
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 12:07 PM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Cross references not converting to PDF hyperlinks
> 
> Thanks to Rebecca Officer and Fred Ridder for pointing me to the
solution:
> 
> On the Links tab of the PDF Setup dialog box, select the "Create Named
> Destinations for All Paragraphs" check box.
> 
> This increases my PDF file size by 27 percent, but now all the PDF
links
> work.
> 
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Doug  wrote:
> 
> > Hi-
> >
> > I have a document that I've added a number of cross references to.
I've
> > noticed that while the cross references work properly within
FrameMaker,
> > clicking the hyperlink in the resulting PDF file does nothing:  many
> > hyperlinks are broken.
> >
> > Upon further testing, I think the problem might be that I've changed
the
> > destination paragraph tag after I created the cross reference.  In
other
> > words, when I originally created the cross reference, the paragraph
tag
> was
> > H1.  The cross-reference marker text is "12345_H1:MyParaText."  I've
> kept
> > that marker there, but changed the paragraph tag, say to H2.  When I
> > eliminated the cross-reference marker and added a new one, such that
the
> > marker text is "56789_H2:MyParaText," the hyperlink does work in the
> > resulting PDF file.
> >
> > Is this indeed the source of the problem?  Has anyone ever had this
> > problem before?  I've had mismatched paragraph tags and marker text
> before
> > without any problem, so this is surprising.  I didn't know if it
might
> be
> > related to the number of cross references.  Is there a limit?
> >
> > This is a major problem for me.  I've painstakingly added numerous
cross
> > references to make my Help system (and PDF files) more usable.
> Hopefully,
> > WebWorks will still produce the links properly, but I'm not sure
that I
> want
> > to keep these faulty links in the PDF files.  However, removing and
> > reinserting markers for the paragraphs that changed tags would be
> ominous.
> > Worse, I now think that I can never change paragraph tags for a
> paragraph
> > that contains a cross-reference marker.  That would be a nasty
> limitation,
> > one that makes cross references less useful.
> >
> > I'm using Frame 7.2p158 unstructured and Adobe Acrobat Distiller
8.1.2.
> > Could this possibly be a problem with incompatibilities between
Frame
> 7.xand Distiller
> > 8.x?
> >
> > Thanks for any insights.
> >
> > Doug
> >
> >
> >
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Using PNG graphics

2008-02-25 Thread Mollye Barrett
Hi All,

I have many PNG files that come into Frame 8 without difficulty. When the
page is printed, however, line weights are heavier than the native file
and close-together lines each want to close.

Any suggestions about importing or publishing that would help render
theses graphics more clearly? There are approximately 8,000 line drawings
and I don't relish tweaking and resaving them all from the native Corel
format.

Best,
Mollye Barrett
ClearPath, LLC
414-331-1378


Using PNG graphics

2008-02-25 Thread martin.sm...@golehtek.com
I would add to Bill's comments and suggest that if you need to  
generate 8,000 vector-based images out of Corel, you can automate the  
process of opening, saving, and closing the Corel drawings using  
WinBatch: http://www.winbatch.com/

WinBatch is an event-driven scripting language that can automate  
repetitive tasks in most Windows applications and is an ideal choice  
for programs that do not provide an API.

You could then write a simple script in the FrameScript language that  
updates the pathnames of all your imported graphics to recognize the  
new file extension, replacing *.png with *.eps for example.

Best regards,

Martin

Martin R. Smith
President: GolehTek, LLC
www.golehtek.com



Re: Using PNG graphics

2008-02-25 Thread Bill Swallow
>  I have many PNG files that come into Frame 8 without difficulty. When the
>  page is printed, however, line weights are heavier than the native file
>  and close-together lines each want to close.
>
>  Any suggestions about importing or publishing that would help render
>  theses graphics more clearly? There are approximately 8,000 line drawings
>  and I don't relish tweaking and resaving them all from the native Corel
>  format.

If these are line drawings, then PNG is the wrong image format. A PNG
is a bitmapped image, not vector. For a clean line drawing in print
(whether from PDF or FM) you should use a vector image format (you'll
have to save out of Corel again, sorry).

A good intro to bitmap vs. vector:

http://graphicssoft.about.com/od/aboutgraphics/a/bitmapvector.htm

-- 
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HATT List Owner
WWP-Users List Owner
Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter
STC Single-Sourcing SIG Manager
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Re: Using PNG graphics

2008-02-25 Thread Mollye Barrett
Art,

When printed directly from Frame or a pdf. I compared them the printed png
file and the PageMaker pages where they are currently used.

Mollye


> Mollye,
> Where are the lines looking bad? On screen, in the pdf, printed?
>
> Art
>
> On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Mollye Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:

Mollye Barrett
ClearPath, LLC
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Re: Using PNG graphics

2008-02-25 Thread Art Campbell
Mollye,
Where are the lines looking bad? On screen, in the pdf, printed?

Art

On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Mollye Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
>  I have many PNG files that come into Frame 8 without difficulty. When the
>  page is printed, however, line weights are heavier than the native file
>  and close-together lines each want to close.
>
>  Any suggestions about importing or publishing that would help render
>  theses graphics more clearly? There are approximately 8,000 line drawings
>  and I don't relish tweaking and resaving them all from the native Corel
>  format.
>
>  Best,
>  Mollye Barrett
>  ClearPath, LLC
>  414-331-1378
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RE: Cross references not converting to PDF hyperlinks

2008-02-25 Thread Fred Ridder

Kelly McDaniel wrote:
 
> I upgraded to FM8, inherited some FM7 files with cross-book links. The
> output is all PDF. My xrefs nopw fail with "The file can not be found."
> 
> I turned on "Create Named Destinations for All Paragraphs" and respun,
> no fix.
> 
> Any other ideas?
 
In order for cross-book cross-references to work, you *must* have all
of the referenced book files open in FrameMaker when you generate 
the PDF for the book that contains the x-refs. The component files 
need not be open--just the book file is enough. But without the book
file, FrameMaker has no way to locate the target of the x-ref to 
generate a valid link in the PDF. 
 
Also note that the PDFs will need to have the same relative locations
as the book files for the links to be valid. If the books are in different 
directories, you'll need to mirror that directory structure when you 
deliver the PDFs. If not, then Acrobat will not be able to find the 
target file when the reader tries to follow an inter-book link.
 
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RE: Cross references not converting to PDF hyperlinks

2008-02-25 Thread Kelly McDaniel
I'm having the same issue.

I upgraded to FM8, inherited some FM7 files with cross-book links. The
output is all PDF. My xrefs nopw fail with "The file can not be found."

I turned on "Create Named Destinations for All Paragraphs" and respun,
no fix.

Any other ideas?

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:framers-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 12:07 PM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Cross references not converting to PDF hyperlinks
> 
> Thanks to Rebecca Officer and Fred Ridder for pointing me to the
solution:
> 
> On the Links tab of the PDF Setup dialog box, select the "Create Named
> Destinations for All Paragraphs" check box.
> 
> This increases my PDF file size by 27 percent, but now all the PDF
links
> work.
> 
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hi-
> >
> > I have a document that I've added a number of cross references to.
I've
> > noticed that while the cross references work properly within
FrameMaker,
> > clicking the hyperlink in the resulting PDF file does nothing:  many
> > hyperlinks are broken.
> >
> > Upon further testing, I think the problem might be that I've changed
the
> > destination paragraph tag after I created the cross reference.  In
other
> > words, when I originally created the cross reference, the paragraph
tag
> was
> > H1.  The cross-reference marker text is "12345_H1:MyParaText."  I've
> kept
> > that marker there, but changed the paragraph tag, say to H2.  When I
> > eliminated the cross-reference marker and added a new one, such that
the
> > marker text is "56789_H2:MyParaText," the hyperlink does work in the
> > resulting PDF file.
> >
> > Is this indeed the source of the problem?  Has anyone ever had this
> > problem before?  I've had mismatched paragraph tags and marker text
> before
> > without any problem, so this is surprising.  I didn't know if it
might
> be
> > related to the number of cross references.  Is there a limit?
> >
> > This is a major problem for me.  I've painstakingly added numerous
cross
> > references to make my Help system (and PDF files) more usable.
> Hopefully,
> > WebWorks will still produce the links properly, but I'm not sure
that I
> want
> > to keep these faulty links in the PDF files.  However, removing and
> > reinserting markers for the paragraphs that changed tags would be
> ominous.
> > Worse, I now think that I can never change paragraph tags for a
> paragraph
> > that contains a cross-reference marker.  That would be a nasty
> limitation,
> > one that makes cross references less useful.
> >
> > I'm using Frame 7.2p158 unstructured and Adobe Acrobat Distiller
8.1.2.
> > Could this possibly be a problem with incompatibilities between
Frame
> 7.xand Distiller
> > 8.x?
> >
> > Thanks for any insights.
> >
> > Doug
> >
> >
> >
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Using PNG graphics

2008-02-25 Thread Mollye Barrett
Hi All,

I have many PNG files that come into Frame 8 without difficulty. When the
page is printed, however, line weights are heavier than the native file
and close-together lines each want to close.

Any suggestions about importing or publishing that would help render
theses graphics more clearly? There are approximately 8,000 line drawings
and I don't relish tweaking and resaving them all from the native Corel
format.

Best,
Mollye Barrett
ClearPath, LLC
414-331-1378
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Re: Cross references not converting to PDF hyperlinks

2008-02-25 Thread Doug
Thanks to Rebecca Officer and Fred Ridder for pointing me to the solution:

On the Links tab of the PDF Setup dialog box, select the "Create Named
Destinations for All Paragraphs" check box.

This increases my PDF file size by 27 percent, but now all the PDF links
work.

On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi-
>
> I have a document that I've added a number of cross references to.  I've
> noticed that while the cross references work properly within FrameMaker,
> clicking the hyperlink in the resulting PDF file does nothing:  many
> hyperlinks are broken.
>
> Upon further testing, I think the problem might be that I've changed the
> destination paragraph tag after I created the cross reference.  In other
> words, when I originally created the cross reference, the paragraph tag was
> H1.  The cross-reference marker text is "12345_H1:MyParaText."  I've kept
> that marker there, but changed the paragraph tag, say to H2.  When I
> eliminated the cross-reference marker and added a new one, such that the
> marker text is "56789_H2:MyParaText," the hyperlink does work in the
> resulting PDF file.
>
> Is this indeed the source of the problem?  Has anyone ever had this
> problem before?  I've had mismatched paragraph tags and marker text before
> without any problem, so this is surprising.  I didn't know if it might be
> related to the number of cross references.  Is there a limit?
>
> This is a major problem for me.  I've painstakingly added numerous cross
> references to make my Help system (and PDF files) more usable.  Hopefully,
> WebWorks will still produce the links properly, but I'm not sure that I want
> to keep these faulty links in the PDF files.  However, removing and
> reinserting markers for the paragraphs that changed tags would be ominous.
> Worse, I now think that I can never change paragraph tags for a paragraph
> that contains a cross-reference marker.  That would be a nasty limitation,
> one that makes cross references less useful.
>
> I'm using Frame 7.2p158 unstructured and Adobe Acrobat Distiller 8.1.2.
> Could this possibly be a problem with incompatibilities between Frame 7.xand 
> Distiller
> 8.x?
>
> Thanks for any insights.
>
> Doug
>
>
>
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Cross references not converting to PDF hyperlinks

2008-02-25 Thread Doug
Thanks to Rebecca Officer and Fred Ridder for pointing me to the solution:

On the Links tab of the PDF Setup dialog box, select the "Create Named
Destinations for All Paragraphs" check box.

This increases my PDF file size by 27 percent, but now all the PDF links
work.

On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Doug  wrote:

> Hi-
>
> I have a document that I've added a number of cross references to.  I've
> noticed that while the cross references work properly within FrameMaker,
> clicking the hyperlink in the resulting PDF file does nothing:  many
> hyperlinks are broken.
>
> Upon further testing, I think the problem might be that I've changed the
> destination paragraph tag after I created the cross reference.  In other
> words, when I originally created the cross reference, the paragraph tag was
> H1.  The cross-reference marker text is "12345_H1:MyParaText."  I've kept
> that marker there, but changed the paragraph tag, say to H2.  When I
> eliminated the cross-reference marker and added a new one, such that the
> marker text is "56789_H2:MyParaText," the hyperlink does work in the
> resulting PDF file.
>
> Is this indeed the source of the problem?  Has anyone ever had this
> problem before?  I've had mismatched paragraph tags and marker text before
> without any problem, so this is surprising.  I didn't know if it might be
> related to the number of cross references.  Is there a limit?
>
> This is a major problem for me.  I've painstakingly added numerous cross
> references to make my Help system (and PDF files) more usable.  Hopefully,
> WebWorks will still produce the links properly, but I'm not sure that I want
> to keep these faulty links in the PDF files.  However, removing and
> reinserting markers for the paragraphs that changed tags would be ominous.
> Worse, I now think that I can never change paragraph tags for a paragraph
> that contains a cross-reference marker.  That would be a nasty limitation,
> one that makes cross references less useful.
>
> I'm using Frame 7.2p158 unstructured and Adobe Acrobat Distiller 8.1.2.
> Could this possibly be a problem with incompatibilities between Frame 7.xand 
> Distiller
> 8.x?
>
> Thanks for any insights.
>
> Doug
>
>
>


takes longer to open files on network drv

2008-02-25 Thread Art Campbell
In addition to network and server speed and throughput issues, all the
cross refs and graphics in the files are being resolved. And depending
on how your computer and/or network is set up, the files are being
validated and virus-checked.

Art

On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 2:53 AM, Orly Zimmerman  wrote:
> HI All,
>
>  Would anyone have any idea why if I open FM files from my network drive,
>  some files, regardless of their size, will take up to two minutes to
>  open, as opposed to opening instantly from my hard drive (C or D).
>
>  The only thing I noticed about the difference in the files is that the
>  ones that take longer to open, have a lot of cross ref's.
>
>  Any ideas will be appreciated.
>
>  Thanks,
>
>  Orly
>
>
>
>  Orly Zimmerman
>
>  Technical Writer
>
>  CPBU Documentation
>
>  Marvell DSPC - Petach Tikva



-- 
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art.campbell at gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358


takes longer to open files on network drv

2008-02-25 Thread Orly Zimmerman
HI All, 

Would anyone have any idea why if I open FM files from my network drive,
some files, regardless of their size, will take up to two minutes to
open, as opposed to opening instantly from my hard drive (C or D). 

The only thing I noticed about the difference in the files is that the
ones that take longer to open, have a lot of cross ref's.

Any ideas will be appreciated.

Thanks, 

Orly



Orly Zimmerman

Technical Writer

CPBU Documentation

Marvell DSPC - Petach Tikva





Cross references not converting to PDF hyperlinks

2008-02-25 Thread Charles Beck
Hi Doug,

This might be in the category of Oops, silly me, what was I thinkin'?
BUT--

Is it safe to assume that, in the Print dialog box, you have selected
the Generate Acrobat Data option? If not, no links are generated. 

HTH,
Chuck Beck

Sr. Technical Writer | Infor | Office: 614.523.7302 |
Charles.Beck at infor.com 



-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Doug
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 18:19
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Cross references not converting to PDF hyperlinks

Hi-

I have a document that I've added a number of cross references to.  I've
noticed that while the cross references work properly within FrameMaker,
clicking the hyperlink in the resulting PDF file does nothing:  many
hyperlinks are broken.

Upon further testing, I think the problem might be that I've changed the
destination paragraph tag after I created the cross reference.  In other
words, when I originally created the cross reference, the paragraph tag
was H1.  The cross-reference marker text is "12345_H1:MyParaText."  I've
kept that marker there, but changed the paragraph tag, say to H2.  When
I eliminated the cross-reference marker and added a new one, such that
the marker text is "56789_H2:MyParaText," the hyperlink does work in the
resulting PDF file.

Is this indeed the source of the problem?  Has anyone ever had this
problem before?  I've had mismatched paragraph tags and marker text
before without any problem, so this is surprising.  I didn't know if it
might be related to the number of cross references.  Is there a limit?

This is a major problem for me.  I've painstakingly added numerous cross
references to make my Help system (and PDF files) more usable.
Hopefully, WebWorks will still produce the links properly, but I'm not
sure that I want to keep these faulty links in the PDF files.  However,
removing and reinserting markers for the paragraphs that changed tags
would be ominous.
Worse, I now think that I can never change paragraph tags for a
paragraph that contains a cross-reference marker.  That would be a nasty
limitation, one that makes cross references less useful.

I'm using Frame 7.2p158 unstructured and Adobe Acrobat Distiller 8.1.2.
Could this possibly be a problem with incompatibilities between Frame
7.xand Distiller 8.x?

Thanks for any insights.

Doug
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Re: takes longer to open files on network drv

2008-02-25 Thread Art Campbell
In addition to network and server speed and throughput issues, all the
cross refs and graphics in the files are being resolved. And depending
on how your computer and/or network is set up, the files are being
validated and virus-checked.

Art

On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 2:53 AM, Orly Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> HI All,
>
>  Would anyone have any idea why if I open FM files from my network drive,
>  some files, regardless of their size, will take up to two minutes to
>  open, as opposed to opening instantly from my hard drive (C or D).
>
>  The only thing I noticed about the difference in the files is that the
>  ones that take longer to open, have a lot of cross ref's.
>
>  Any ideas will be appreciated.
>
>  Thanks,
>
>  Orly
>
>
>
>  Orly Zimmerman
>
>  Technical Writer
>
>  CPBU Documentation
>
>  Marvell DSPC - Petach Tikva



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takes longer to open files on network drv

2008-02-25 Thread Orly Zimmerman
HI All, 

Would anyone have any idea why if I open FM files from my network drive,
some files, regardless of their size, will take up to two minutes to
open, as opposed to opening instantly from my hard drive (C or D). 

The only thing I noticed about the difference in the files is that the
ones that take longer to open, have a lot of cross ref's.

Any ideas will be appreciated.

Thanks, 

Orly

 

Orly Zimmerman

Technical Writer

CPBU Documentation

Marvell DSPC - Petach Tikva

 

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RE: Cross references not converting to PDF hyperlinks

2008-02-25 Thread Charles Beck
Hi Doug,

This might be in the category of Oops, silly me, what was I thinkin'?
BUT--

Is it safe to assume that, in the Print dialog box, you have selected
the Generate Acrobat Data option? If not, no links are generated. 

HTH,
Chuck Beck

Sr. Technical Writer | Infor | Office: 614.523.7302 |
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 18:19
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Cross references not converting to PDF hyperlinks

Hi-

I have a document that I've added a number of cross references to.  I've
noticed that while the cross references work properly within FrameMaker,
clicking the hyperlink in the resulting PDF file does nothing:  many
hyperlinks are broken.

Upon further testing, I think the problem might be that I've changed the
destination paragraph tag after I created the cross reference.  In other
words, when I originally created the cross reference, the paragraph tag
was H1.  The cross-reference marker text is "12345_H1:MyParaText."  I've
kept that marker there, but changed the paragraph tag, say to H2.  When
I eliminated the cross-reference marker and added a new one, such that
the marker text is "56789_H2:MyParaText," the hyperlink does work in the
resulting PDF file.

Is this indeed the source of the problem?  Has anyone ever had this
problem before?  I've had mismatched paragraph tags and marker text
before without any problem, so this is surprising.  I didn't know if it
might be related to the number of cross references.  Is there a limit?

This is a major problem for me.  I've painstakingly added numerous cross
references to make my Help system (and PDF files) more usable.
Hopefully, WebWorks will still produce the links properly, but I'm not
sure that I want to keep these faulty links in the PDF files.  However,
removing and reinserting markers for the paragraphs that changed tags
would be ominous.
Worse, I now think that I can never change paragraph tags for a
paragraph that contains a cross-reference marker.  That would be a nasty
limitation, one that makes cross references less useful.

I'm using Frame 7.2p158 unstructured and Adobe Acrobat Distiller 8.1.2.
Could this possibly be a problem with incompatibilities between Frame
7.xand Distiller 8.x?

Thanks for any insights.

Doug
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