Re: List of... or Index of... as a text inset?

2008-04-24 Thread Klaus Daube
On 23 Apr 2008 at 9:57, Rene Stephenson wrote:

 It seems that at some point in time someone had mentioned setting up a TOC
 at the first of a chapter as a text inset so that it would auto-update
 when you generate the FM book file. (Maybe I'm dreaming...)
 
 Well, I have come upon a situation where I could use that to track the
 chapter contents list as well as a quick-reference guide to the tables for
 various configurations in a chapter. However, I can't seem to get it to
 work properly.
 
 I tried creating the standalone TOC for the relevant chapter using the
 desired subheadings, saved that file in with my other text insets and
 Alt-F,I,F (by reference) and it doesn't update when I update the text
 insets. Same problem with the chapter LOT that I set up the same way. At
 least the failure is consistent. :-\

Rene,

Yes, the updating calls for discipline fromt the user side - and hence I was 
happy to 
get the itl script DocToc. See http://www.itl.eu/156.html?L=1

This script is powerful, but not free.

Klaus Daube

Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich
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how to take an element out of the flow

2008-04-24 Thread Jakob Fix
Hello,

I have a lot of XML files with the same structure which contain among
other things an element variable amount of text here
which comes as the last element of the document.  Each document
represents two or four pages of the final document.  The 
element should appear inside a box on the bottom left corner of the
first page in the FrameMaker document.  Currently, we have to manually
move the element in between two paragraphs of the preceding text in
order to achieve the desired effect.

I am wondering if there wasn't a way to automatically do this when
importing the XML file?  Such as somehow moving it to a Flow B which
would be constituted by a rectangle in the bottom left corner of the
first page.  Or a text inset?  A drawback is that the text inside the
 element is of variable length, so the box would need to be
able to grow or to shrink.

Is anybody facing similar problems, and possibly already has found a
solution to this?

I would be really grateful for any pointers on how we could (even
partially) automate this in some way or the other.  We're using 7.0 at
the moment, but considering a move to 8.x, probably even earlier if
the new version were to solve this problem :)

cheers,
Jakob.


List of... or Index of... as a text inset?

2008-04-24 Thread Klaus Daube
On 23 Apr 2008 at 9:57, Rene Stephenson wrote:

> It seems that at some point in time someone had mentioned setting up a TOC
> at the first of a chapter as a text inset so that it would auto-update
> when you generate the FM book file. (Maybe I'm dreaming...)
> 
> Well, I have come upon a situation where I could use that to track the
> chapter contents list as well as a quick-reference guide to the tables for
> various configurations in a chapter. However, I can't seem to get it to
> work properly.
> 
> I tried creating the "standalone" TOC for the relevant chapter using the
> desired subheadings, saved that file in with my other text insets and
> Alt-F,I,F (by reference) and it doesn't update when I update the text
> insets. Same problem with the chapter LOT that I set up the same way. At
> least the failure is consistent. :-\

Rene,

Yes, the updating calls for discipline fromt the user side - and hence I was 
happy to 
get the itl script DocToc. See http://www.itl.eu/156.html?=1

This script is powerful, but not free.

Klaus Daube

Docu + Design Daube; Sch?racher 11; CH-8053 Z?rich
Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper
Phone:  +41-44-422 86 25  FAX: +41-44-422 82 78
E-mail: ddd at daube.ch  Web: www.daube.ch/



Find/Change default

2008-04-24 Thread Klaus Daube
On 23 Apr 2008 at 13:28, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote:

> I find it very annoying when I accidentally hit the "Find " button to look
> for something in an open book component when I also have the corresponding
> book open, that it immediately starts scanning through the whole book and
> there is no stopping it - not ESC, not CTRL-C, not CTRL-D or anything
> usually used to kill a process.

Bodvar,

After CTRL+F to activate the Find dialogue, you may use ALT+d to switch the 
dialogue 
to Find in Document. However, the active document must be a document. If you 
are in a 
book file, "docuement" is grey.

Klaus Daube

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Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper
Phone:  +41-44-422 86 25  FAX: +41-44-422 82 78
E-mail: ddd at daube.ch  Web: www.daube.ch/



AIR

2008-04-24 Thread Kelly McDaniel

Anyone packaging AIR apps? I have a font issue question. Pls contact me
at off list...tnx, Kelly.


Standard to SGMG generated files

2008-04-24 Thread Harold Winberg
Hello Framers



We are converting our FM manuals from standard to SGML.



In the standard manuals we used para tags to generate TOC, LOT, LOF and
index.



We have an EDD that uses FormatChangeList.



Is there a plug-in or good method to create these formerly para tag
generated files?



Thanks



Les Winberg



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Numbering question

2008-04-24 Thread Joel Wilhelm
Folks, I want a heading to look like:

1. *Blah

*How do I get the text to underline, and yet have no underlining for the
number, period, and space between the period and the text?

Thanks,

Joel


Numbering question

2008-04-24 Thread Mike Feimster
Joel,

Create a character style called "No Underline". All the values should be
"As Is". Make sure the Underline check box is cleared.

Open the paragraph designer for the heading.

On the default font tab, make the paragraph underlined.

On the Numbering tab, under Character Format, select "No Underline".

Mike

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Folks, I want a heading to look like:

1. *Blah

*How do I get the text to underline, and yet have no underlining for the
number, period, and space between the period and the text?

Thanks,

Joel
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Numbering question

2008-04-24 Thread Flato, Gillian
In the reference section you can start the line to the left about 1/4"
or 1/2", whatever the size of the number could be. Assuming you're
underlining by assigning a below pgph line in the paragraph designer. 

-Gillian


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Folks, I want a heading to look like:

1. *Blah

*How do I get the text to underline, and yet have no underlining for the
number, period, and space between the period and the text?

Thanks,

Joel
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Numbering question

2008-04-24 Thread Pat Christenson
Enable underlining in the paragraph designer. Then create a character  
tag in which underlining is disabled. Apply the character tag to the  
numbering properties in the paragraph designer.

Pat Christenson

On Apr 24, 2008, at 1:35 PM, Joel Wilhelm wrote:

> Folks, I want a heading to look like:
>
> 1. *Blah
>
> *How do I get the text to underline, and yet have no underlining  
> for the
> number, period, and space between the period and the text?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joel
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Numbering question

2008-04-24 Thread Joel Wilhelm
Thanks for all the responses! That was too easy.

Joel

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> Enable underlining in the paragraph designer. Then create a character tag
> in which underlining is disabled. Apply the character tag to the numbering
> properties in the paragraph designer.
>
> Pat Christenson
>
>
> On Apr 24, 2008, at 1:35 PM, Joel Wilhelm wrote:
>
>  Folks, I want a heading to look like:
>>
>> 1. *Blah
>>
>> *How do I get the text to underline, and yet have no underlining for the
>> number, period, and space between the period and the text?
>>
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Conditional text insets

2008-04-24 Thread Duncan, Gary
Hi everyone,



We are trying to use text insets that get called into the chapter and
then are conditionalized from within the container file. For example, if
we want the content of an inset to appear only in Help, we give it a
HelpOnly condition from within the container file. We do not want to
conditionalize the text inset content itself because the condition may
not be appropriate in other places we use the inset.



This works fine until we revise the inset and it gets called back into
the container file. The condition is lost. At first, it seemed like a
bug. But after thinking about it, it makes sense that reimporting the
text inset replaces everything associated with the previous version. The
buggy thing is that Frame still indicates that the inset is conditional
(in the lower left corner of the screen where the paragraph/flow info
shows). The conditional dialog indicates that the inset is conditional,
but does not indicate which condition. In the end, however, the
information seems bogus because if you click on something else, then
click back on the inset, the info is carried over from the previous text
you clicked on.



If the conditional info was truly held in Frame, I was hoping that a
solution could be a script that scans for insets with associated
conditions and update and apply the condition. Now, I am not so hopeful.



Has anyone run into this and solved the problem?



Thank you...



Gary