RE: See all open markers?

[Reng, Winfried]

Hi Nancy,

CudSpan's MarkerWorker plug-in might help you.
It creates a list of markers which you can edit and 
then re-insert into your document. It's free.

http://www.freeframers.org/freeware/cud/

Best regards

Winfried

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 Nancy Allison
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 Subject: See all open markers?
 
 
 It galls me to admit this, but I really appreciate the ability to see 
 all the hidden markers in a Word file. It enables me to see all the 
 Index markers, for example, and quickly correct inconsistencies.
 
 Is there any clever way of doing this in Frame? Or in a MIF file?
 
 For example, I think a chapter of my book is skimpy on markers. I can 
 generate a List of Markers and look at the page numbers; then 
 I can go 
 to the document and look at the pages that don't have any 
 markers to see 
 if they should.
 
 How delightful it would be to simply page through the 
 document, noting 
 the absence of markers once all markers (or, better yet, just Index 
 markers) had been displayed?
 
 Has anyone made my daydream a reality?
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Re: See all open markers?

[Shlomo Perets]

In addition to the options mentioned in this thread, there is 
MarkerMadness, http://www.zenserve.com


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Re: Table won't roll to next page

[Stuart Rogers]

Deirdre Reagan wrote:
 I fixed it!
 
 I autoconnected the first page to the second page and the table on the
 last page miraculously rolled over to a new page.
 
 I don't know why that worked, but I'm glad it did!
 

It worked because text frames that have a flow tag and autoconnection 
cause FM to automatically create more pages when text reaches the bottom 
of the frames.  (That's part of the reason it's called a flow -- 
content is a continuous stream, although it is visible only in discrete 
frames and pages.)

Text frames that have no flow connection or tag exist in isolation and 
do not cause more pages to be created when they contain too much text.

(Note re terminology:  it is actually frames, not pages, that are 
connected.)

The only remaining don't know is how the disconnected frame got 
created in the first place.  It's possible that someone deliberately 
used the Special  Add Disconnected Pages command, thereby foiling FM's 
beautiful engineering with their manual intervention.  (Unlike with MS 
Weird, it's better to let FM do its own thing ;-)

On the other hand, it is remarkably easy to accidentally create a 
flowless, disconnected text frame by selecting a normal frame 
(CTRL-click) and moving it while the CTRL key is still pressed.  A 
mouse-stutter that moves the frame even one pixel and back again is 
enough to duplicate the frame (minus flow tag) directly on top of the 
original.  If content happens to end on that page, you will see the 
end-of-flow marker on the connected frame, while also seeing such a 
marker on the disconnected (disconcerting!) frame on top of it.  But if 
your content doesn't end on the connected page, it can be very 
mystifying indeed.

HTH,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
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Re: Table won't roll to next page

[Deirdre Reagan]

OK!

Now I think I have a related problem.

I have three pages of figures, followed by a table, followed by three
figures, followed by a table.

The first table scrolls for two pages, jumps the three figures, and
continues scrolling as part of the second table.

Yikes!

I've disconnected all the pages and am reconnecting them, one by one,
but when I connect the first table to the figure, it automatically
connects to the second table.

Any thoughts?

I'm really new at this stuff and I really appreciate your help!

Deirdre
On 1/12/09, Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'd make a guess that you have another text frame on that page,
 probably one that's not auto-connected to anything.

 Try poking around with the pointer tool, or maybe do a Select All on
 the page. Either one would let you select or unselect objects, or move
 them around so you can see if anything is there but hidden.

 Art

 Art Campbell
   art.campb...@gmail.com
  ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358



 On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Deirdre Reagan
 deirdre.rea...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks everyone for your help.  I copied the table to a new blank
  document and the table rolled over just fine, so it appears that my
  problem is with the master pages.
 
  My document starts on page 10004. I have three pages of figures, then
  three pages of table, then three pages of figures and two more pages
  of table.  It's the last page of the last table that is causing me
  grief.
 
  The table in the middle of the document is working just fine. The
  table at the end of the document won't roll to a new page, so 10 or so
  rows are disappearing.
 
  I've doubled checked the master page usage.  For the first table, the
  page are Custom Right, Custom Left, Custom Right.  For the second
  table, the pages are Custom Right, Custom Left.  So as far as the
  table will go, it is using the same master pages as the previous
  table.
 
  When I try to change the pagination from Make Page Count Even to Make
  Page Count Odd, I get this message:
 
  The new column layout in DOCNAME.fm seems to overlap other objects on
  some body pages.
 
  Are you sure you want to do this?
 
  Number of pages affected: 5.  First page: 10008.
 
  (***end of message***)
 
  Page 10008 is the first page of the first table.
 
  Any idea what that might mean?
 
  Deirdre
 
 
 
  On 1/12/09, Fred Ridder docu...@hotmail.com wrote:
  Deirdre Reagan asked:
 
   I'm having a problem with the table on the last page of my file. I
   add 10 more rows, and the rows disapper on the page -- they don't
   force a new page. I've seen this before and I seem to remember it's a
   simple fix, but for the life of me I can't remember what to do!
  
   I've gone into pagination and changed the setting from Make Page
   Count Even to Make Page Count Odd, but that hasn't done anything.
 
  I can think of three possible causes of this kind of behavior right off
  the top of my head:
  1) One or more columns straddled across rows.
  2) Keep With Next Row and/or Keep With Previous Row set
  in TableRow Format
  3) A very large value set for Orphan Rows in the Table Designer.
 
  Does the existing last page use the default master page? Or does it
  use some special master page? There are probably some circumstances
  where that might also play a role.
 
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Re: Table won't roll to next page

[Art Campbell]

Deirdre,

Do you have a working chapter or a template without flow problems?

If so, it may be easier to:

   - Save the working chapter as a new file.
   - Clean all the content out of the working chapter. Crl-a to select all,
   then Ctrl-x to cut.
   - Copy in the content from your problem file.
   - Put your cursor in the first flow, Ctrl-a then Ctrl-x.
  - Swap to the new file, and paste. Ctrl-v.
  - Back in the original, go to the next chunk of content and repeat,
  pasting that into the correct position.
  - Continue until your original source file is empty.
  - In the new file, import variables from your source file and tags and
  stuff if you need them. DON'T import the page layouts.
  - DON'T save the now-empty original, so you have a backup copy, just
  in case.

This is likely to be easier than trying to fix something if you're not sure
what's broken or how to repair it.

Art

Art Campbell
 art.campb...@gmail.com
 ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a
redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
  DoD 358


On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Deirdre Reagan
deirdre.rea...@gmail.comwrote:

 OK!

 Now I think I have a related problem.

 I have three pages of figures, followed by a table, followed by three
 figures, followed by a table.

 The first table scrolls for two pages, jumps the three figures, and
 continues scrolling as part of the second table.

 Yikes!

 I've disconnected all the pages and am reconnecting them, one by one,
 but when I connect the first table to the figure, it automatically
 connects to the second table.

 Any thoughts?

 I'm really new at this stuff and I really appreciate your help!

 Deirdre
 On 1/12/09, Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com wrote:
  I'd make a guess that you have another text frame on that page,
  probably one that's not auto-connected to anything.
 
  Try poking around with the pointer tool, or maybe do a Select All on
  the page. Either one would let you select or unselect objects, or move
  them around so you can see if anything is there but hidden.
 
  Art
 
  Art Campbell
art.campb...@gmail.com
   ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
  Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
   No disclaimers
 apply.
DoD 358
 
 
 
  On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Deirdre Reagan
  deirdre.rea...@gmail.com wrote:
   Thanks everyone for your help.  I copied the table to a new blank
   document and the table rolled over just fine, so it appears that my
   problem is with the master pages.
  
   My document starts on page 10004. I have three pages of figures, then
   three pages of table, then three pages of figures and two more pages
   of table.  It's the last page of the last table that is causing me
   grief.
  
   The table in the middle of the document is working just fine. The
   table at the end of the document won't roll to a new page, so 10 or so
   rows are disappearing.
  
   I've doubled checked the master page usage.  For the first table, the
   page are Custom Right, Custom Left, Custom Right.  For the second
   table, the pages are Custom Right, Custom Left.  So as far as the
   table will go, it is using the same master pages as the previous
   table.
  
   When I try to change the pagination from Make Page Count Even to Make
   Page Count Odd, I get this message:
  
   The new column layout in DOCNAME.fm seems to overlap other objects on
   some body pages.
  
   Are you sure you want to do this?
  
   Number of pages affected: 5.  First page: 10008.
  
   (***end of message***)
  
   Page 10008 is the first page of the first table.
  
   Any idea what that might mean?
  
   Deirdre
  
  
  
   On 1/12/09, Fred Ridder docu...@hotmail.com wrote:
   Deirdre Reagan asked:
  
I'm having a problem with the table on the last page of my file. I
add 10 more rows, and the rows disapper on the page -- they don't
force a new page. I've seen this before and I seem to remember it's
 a
simple fix, but for the life of me I can't remember what to do!
   
I've gone into pagination and changed the setting from Make Page
Count Even to Make Page Count Odd, but that hasn't done anything.
  
   I can think of three possible causes of this kind of behavior right
 off
   the top of my head:
   1) One or more columns straddled across rows.
   2) Keep With Next Row and/or Keep With Previous Row set
   in TableRow Format
   3) A very large value set for Orphan Rows in the Table Designer.
  
   Does the existing last page use the default master page? Or does it
   use some special master page? There are probably some circumstances
   where that might also play a role.
  
   -FR
  
  
  
  

Re: Table won't roll to next page

[Deirdre Reagan]

Thanks, Art -- that is exactly what I'm in the process of doing now.
I'm under a deadline, and I don't know what the problem is, and I'm
getting a bit flustered, so I just am hacking away at cut and paste.

Thanks,

Deirdre

On 1/13/09, Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Deirdre,

 Do you have a working chapter or a template without flow problems?

 If so, it may be easier to:

 Save the working chapter as a new file.
 Clean all the content out of the working chapter. Crl-a to select all, then
 Ctrl-x to cut.
 Copy in the content from your problem file.

 Put your cursor in the first flow, Ctrl-a then Ctrl-x.
 Swap to the new file, and paste. Ctrl-v.
 Back in the original, go to the next chunk of content and repeat, pasting
 that into the correct position.
 Continue until your original source file is empty.
 In the new file, import variables from your source file and tags and stuff
 if you need them. DON'T import the page layouts.
 DON'T save the now-empty original, so you have a backup copy, just in case.
 This is likely to be easier than trying to fix something if you're not sure
 what's broken or how to repair it.

 Art

 Art Campbell
  art.campb...@gmail.com
  ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a
 redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358



 On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Deirdre Reagan deirdre.rea...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  OK!
 
  Now I think I have a related problem.
 
  I have three pages of figures, followed by a table, followed by three
  figures, followed by a table.
 
  The first table scrolls for two pages, jumps the three figures, and
  continues scrolling as part of the second table.
 
  Yikes!
 
  I've disconnected all the pages and am reconnecting them, one by one,
  but when I connect the first table to the figure, it automatically
  connects to the second table.
 
  Any thoughts?
 
  I'm really new at this stuff and I really appreciate your help!
 
  Deirdre
 
 
 
  On 1/12/09, Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com wrote:
   I'd make a guess that you have another text frame on that page,
   probably one that's not auto-connected to anything.
  
   Try poking around with the pointer tool, or maybe do a Select All on
   the page. Either one would let you select or unselect objects, or move
   them around so you can see if anything is there but hidden.
  
   Art
  
   Art Campbell
 art.campb...@gmail.com
... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
   Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
No disclaimers
 apply.
 DoD 358
  
  
  
   On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Deirdre Reagan
   deirdre.rea...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks everyone for your help.  I copied the table to a new blank
document and the table rolled over just fine, so it appears that my
problem is with the master pages.
   
My document starts on page 10004. I have three pages of figures, then
three pages of table, then three pages of figures and two more pages
of table.  It's the last page of the last table that is causing me
grief.
   
The table in the middle of the document is working just fine. The
table at the end of the document won't roll to a new page, so 10 or so
rows are disappearing.
   
I've doubled checked the master page usage.  For the first table, the
page are Custom Right, Custom Left, Custom Right.  For the second
table, the pages are Custom Right, Custom Left.  So as far as the
table will go, it is using the same master pages as the previous
table.
   
When I try to change the pagination from Make Page Count Even to Make
Page Count Odd, I get this message:
   
The new column layout in DOCNAME.fm seems to overlap other objects on
some body pages.
   
Are you sure you want to do this?
   
Number of pages affected: 5.  First page: 10008.
   
(***end of message***)
   
Page 10008 is the first page of the first table.
   
Any idea what that might mean?
   
Deirdre
   
   
   
On 1/12/09, Fred Ridder docu...@hotmail.com wrote:
Deirdre Reagan asked:
   
 I'm having a problem with the table on the last page of my file. I
 add 10 more rows, and the rows disapper on the page -- they don't
 force a new page. I've seen this before and I seem to remember it's
 a
 simple fix, but for the life of me I can't remember what to do!

 I've gone into pagination and changed the setting from Make Page
 Count Even to Make Page Count Odd, but that hasn't done
 anything.
   
I can think of three possible causes of this kind of behavior right
 off
the top of my head:
1) One or more columns straddled across rows.
2) Keep With Next Row 

Re: See all open markers?

[Scott Prentice]

There are a number of Marker-related plugins .. 10 are listed in our 
Tool Search database ..

http://leximation.com/toolsearch/?type=Pbaseapp=FMkwds=marker

(If anyone knows of others .. please let me know!)

Cheers,

...scott

Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
www.leximation.com
+1.415.485.1892



Shlomo Perets wrote:
 In addition to the options mentioned in this thread, there is 
 MarkerMadness, http://www.zenserve.com


 Shlomo Perets

 MicroType * http://www.microtype.com
 FrameMaker training  consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers

 Improve Your FrameMaker Skills live web-based training sessions


   
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RE: Distinguishing between Paragraphs and Insets in a Framemaker Doc

[Charles Monck]

Hi Rick,

Very many thanks for that ... I have it doing just what I want!

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-Original Message-
From: Rick Quatro [mailto:frameexp...@truevine.net] 
Sent: 12 January 2009 18:32
To: Charles Monck; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Distinguishing between Paragraphs and Insets in a
Framemaker Doc

Hi Charles,

You can do something like this, assuming the oDoc is your document
object.

Get TextList InObject(oDoc.MainFlowInDoc) NewVar(tTextList)
  PgfBegin TextInsetBegin;
Loop While(i = tTextList.Count) LoopVar(i) Init(1) Incr(1)
  If tTextList[i].TextType = 'PgfBegin'
Set oPgf = tTextList[i].TextData;
  ElseIf tTextList[i].TextType = 'TextInsetBegin'
Set oTi = tTextList[i].TextData;
  EndIf
EndLoop

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


 Hello ...

 Complete FrameScript newbie here!

 I wonder if there is a way of using FrameScript to go through a
document
 taking one course of action if the next object in the document is a
 paragraph (Here I wish to add a text inset - and that is all working
 fine)) and another course of action if the next object is a text
inset
 (when I find a particular text inset I want to edit the last previous
 paragraph which is Heading1 format. Pseudo-code for the main
path
 of the script would be something like:-

 Local lvObject(pvDocVar.FirstObjectInDoc);

 Loop While(lvObject)

 If (Object = Paragraph) then

 ... do something here ...

 Else if (Object = TextInset) then

 ... do something else here ...

 Endif

 Set lvObject = lvTextInset.NextObjectInDoc;

 EndLoop;

 Hoping that someone can help !

 Thanks.

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Re: See all open markers?

[Mike Wickham]

Shlomo wrote:

 In addition to the options mentioned in this thread, there is
 MarkerMadness, http://www.zenserve.com

Actually, the address is http://www.zenserve.co.uk, though that link does 
not appear to work either.

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Re: Unstructured FM to DITA XML

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Robyn

I have done quite a lot of unstructured FM to DITA XML conversions, but I
use Mif2Go for this because it's a lot more powerful than Frame's conversion
tables.

I've got a Captivate Flash movie that shows you how the conversion process
goes. If you're interested, just let me know and I'll send you a copy.

Cheers


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On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 2:56 PM, robynwrig...@aol.com wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 Has anyone ever done a conversion from unstructured FM to DITA XML (using
 FM's paragraph tags, etc.)? If so, do you have a conversion table that I
 could
 use. (I figured it would be a few steps ahead of beginning the conversion
 table  from scratch.)

 Thanks!
 Robyn
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Re: Unstructured FM to DITA XML

[Art Campbell]

Yves,

Could you post that on a public server? (If you'd like to join the Tech Comm
Suite user's group, you'd be welcome to use that site:
http://groups.google.com/group/TCS-Users?hl=en)

If not, I'd like to receive an email copy too.

Art

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On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Yves Barbion yves.barb...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Robyn

 I have done quite a lot of unstructured FM to DITA XML conversions, but I
 use Mif2Go for this because it's a lot more powerful than Frame's
 conversion
 tables.

 I've got a Captivate Flash movie that shows you how the conversion process
 goes. If you're interested, just let me know and I'll send you a copy.

 Cheers


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 www.scripto.nu  • skype: yves.barbion  • T: +32 494 12 01 89


 On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 2:56 PM, robynwrig...@aol.com wrote:

  Hi everyone,
 
  Has anyone ever done a conversion from unstructured FM to DITA XML (using
  FM's paragraph tags, etc.)? If so, do you have a conversion table that I
  could
  use. (I figured it would be a few steps ahead of beginning the conversion
  table  from scratch.)
 
  Thanks!
  Robyn
  **New year...new news.  Be the first to know what is making
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Re: Unstructured FM to DITA XML

[David Spreadbury]

Yves,
Yes, yes, yes, please post it, or a link where it could be downloaded. I would 
think that this would be very beneficial for a lot of the watchers on here, or 
the TCS site.

--- On Tue, 1/13/09, Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Unstructured FM to DITA XML
To: Yves Barbion yves.barb...@gmail.com
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 2:35 PM

Yves,

Could you post that on a public server? (If you'd like to join the Tech
Comm
Suite user's group, you'd be welcome to use that site:
http://groups.google.com/group/TCS-Users?hl=en)

If not, I'd like to receive an email copy too.

Art

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redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
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On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Yves Barbion
yves.barb...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Robyn

 I have done quite a lot of unstructured FM to DITA XML conversions, but I
 use Mif2Go for this because it's a lot more powerful than Frame's
 conversion
 tables.

 I've got a Captivate Flash movie that shows you how the conversion
process
 goes. If you're interested, just let me know and I'll send you a
copy.

 Cheers


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  Hi everyone,
 
  Has anyone ever done a conversion from unstructured FM to DITA XML
(using
  FM's paragraph tags, etc.)? If so, do you have a conversion table
that I
  could
  use. (I figured it would be a few steps ahead of beginning the
conversion
  table  from scratch.)
 
  Thanks!
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Re: Table won't roll to next page

[Deirdre Reagan]

Just to let everyone know how it ended up, I deleted the two tables
and pasted them into a blank document.  Then I went to the end of the
third page, hit return, and pasted in the first table, then did the
same for the second table at the end of the document.

Now the tables roll just fine.

I think the first page of the document was disconnected from the other
pages, and I added a small hidden disconnected text frame on the first
page to provide a Chapter heading for the TOC.  These could be the
culprit, or who knows -- I'm just glad I've got the documents tamed.

I really appreciate all the feedback you guys gave me.  I've been at
this for a year now, and feel like I've moved about an inch forward on
the mile-long learning curve that is FrameMaker.  And I am a pretty
sharp person!  I don't know if it's just because I'm working without
an expert here, or if my brain just doesn't function in FM ways, but I
am so impressed by and thankful for the body of knowledge you all to
bring to bear to my problems.

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Deirdre



On 1/12/09, Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'd make a guess that you have another text frame on that page,
 probably one that's not auto-connected to anything.

 Try poking around with the pointer tool, or maybe do a Select All on
 the page. Either one would let you select or unselect objects, or move
 them around so you can see if anything is there but hidden.

 Art

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 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358



 On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Deirdre Reagan
 deirdre.rea...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks everyone for your help.  I copied the table to a new blank
  document and the table rolled over just fine, so it appears that my
  problem is with the master pages.
 
  My document starts on page 10004. I have three pages of figures, then
  three pages of table, then three pages of figures and two more pages
  of table.  It's the last page of the last table that is causing me
  grief.
 
  The table in the middle of the document is working just fine. The
  table at the end of the document won't roll to a new page, so 10 or so
  rows are disappearing.
 
  I've doubled checked the master page usage.  For the first table, the
  page are Custom Right, Custom Left, Custom Right.  For the second
  table, the pages are Custom Right, Custom Left.  So as far as the
  table will go, it is using the same master pages as the previous
  table.
 
  When I try to change the pagination from Make Page Count Even to Make
  Page Count Odd, I get this message:
 
  The new column layout in DOCNAME.fm seems to overlap other objects on
  some body pages.
 
  Are you sure you want to do this?
 
  Number of pages affected: 5.  First page: 10008.
 
  (***end of message***)
 
  Page 10008 is the first page of the first table.
 
  Any idea what that might mean?
 
  Deirdre
 
 
 
  On 1/12/09, Fred Ridder docu...@hotmail.com wrote:
  Deirdre Reagan asked:
 
   I'm having a problem with the table on the last page of my file. I
   add 10 more rows, and the rows disapper on the page -- they don't
   force a new page. I've seen this before and I seem to remember it's a
   simple fix, but for the life of me I can't remember what to do!
  
   I've gone into pagination and changed the setting from Make Page
   Count Even to Make Page Count Odd, but that hasn't done anything.
 
  I can think of three possible causes of this kind of behavior right off
  the top of my head:
  1) One or more columns straddled across rows.
  2) Keep With Next Row and/or Keep With Previous Row set
  in TableRow Format
  3) A very large value set for Orphan Rows in the Table Designer.
 
  Does the existing last page use the default master page? Or does it
  use some special master page? There are probably some circumstances
  where that might also play a role.
 
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RE: Table won't roll to next page

[Maxwell Hoffmann]

Deirdre,

I have not had this happen with FM 8.0, but I have experienced what you are
describing with previous  versions of FrameMaker. Once fix that sometimes
works is to save the document as MIF, then reopen and rename as the binary
*.fm file. 

When this happened to me, I could not find any additional text columns or
odd features on the body or master page. When this happened to me, it was
always with a table at the end of the document. 

Try saving to MIF and see if that helps.

_ 

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Globalization Partners International (GPI)   
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-Original Message-
From: Deirdre Reagan [mailto:deirdre.rea...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 12:11 PM
To: Framer's List
Subject: Table won't roll to next page

Hi All!

FM 8.0, Windows 3.1.

Just kidding -- Windows XP.

I'm having a problem with the table on the last page of my file.  I
add 10 more rows, and the rows disapper on the page -- they don't
force a new page.  I've seen this before and I seem to remember it's a
simple fix, but for the life of me I can't remember what to do!

I've gone into pagination and changed the setting from Make Page
Count Even to Make Page Count Odd, but that hasn't done anything.

Any thoughts?

Thanks!

Deirdre


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RE: Subject: Challenge with Trados

[Maxwell Hoffmann]

Marc,

I concur with Wim's analysis. Whenever I have seen this in the past it has
always been a case of someone using an incorrect version of Trados. Many
translation agencies use contract linguists and occasionally, such a
linguist will not have all of the correct filters or files when they prep
their translated work.

Your translation agency/vendor should be preparing the files and also doing
post-translation engineering to ensure that such glitches do not happen. 

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-Original Message-
From: Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp [mailto:w...@idtp.eu] 
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 12:17 AM
To: marc.creag...@sympatico.ca
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Subject: Challenge with Trados

Hi Marc,

Indeed, best practice is to save as MIF and use that to work with Trados.
The Trados S-Tagger filters the MIF to either tagged RTF or STF - where STF
is the most reliable. This file wil be used by the translators and after
translation filtered back to MIF. STF is translated using the Trados Tag
Editor.
The loss of accented characters is a known issue and indicates that your
client (or his translation agency) is not using the correct version of
Trados in combination with the right filters (i.e. compatible with FM 8.0);
The translated files (in RTF) are probably ok, but the filtering back to FM
causes the error. Using RTF for translation indicates thet probably an older
version of Trados is used. They should consult the Trados helpdesk (actually
SDL) to solve the problem.

HTH,

Best wishes for 2009!

Wim Hooghwinkel

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RE: PDF drawings into FrameMaker

[Dennis Brunnenmeyer]

Adrianne

What application you were using to create your PDF files from the DWG 
files in the first place? I've never had a problem with PDFs created 
from CAD packages using the Adobe PDF virtual printer installed with Frame.

Dennis Brunnenmeyer

At 05:44 AM 1/13/2009, Adrianne Mora wrote:
I want to thank everyone for their responses about my issue with
importing PDF drawings into FrameMaker. Some suggested using different
formats, but with our software setup, PDF is my only way. The PDF prints
perfectly fine -- until I import it into FM! It's rather frustrating.



That said, I used PDF-Fly http://www.pdf-fly.com/ to convert the files
into MIF. This works beautifully! Thanks for the suggestion, Jan.



Now I have to figure out how I'm going to convince my company to buy the
program when FM should do this, without a hitch, on its own



Adrianne

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See all open markers?

[Reng, Winfried]

Hi Nancy,

CudSpan's MarkerWorker plug-in might help you.
It creates a list of markers which you can edit and 
then re-insert into your document. It's free.

http://www.freeframers.org/freeware/cud/

Best regards

Winfried

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
> Nancy Allison
> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 10:34 PM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: See all open markers?
> 
> 
> It galls me to admit this, but I really appreciate the ability to see 
> all the hidden markers in a Word file. It enables me to see all the 
> Index markers, for example, and quickly correct inconsistencies.
> 
> Is there any clever way of doing this in Frame? Or in a MIF file?
> 
> For example, I think a chapter of my book is skimpy on markers. I can 
> generate a List of Markers and look at the page numbers; then 
> I can go 
> to the document and look at the pages that don't have any 
> markers to see 
> if they should.
> 
> How delightful it would be to simply page through the 
> document, noting 
> the absence of markers once all markers (or, better yet, just Index 
> markers) had been displayed?
> 
> Has anyone made my daydream a reality?
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See all open markers?

[Shlomo Perets]

In addition to the options mentioned in this thread, there is 
MarkerMadness, http://www.zenserve.com


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Table won't roll to next page

[Stuart Rogers]

Deirdre Reagan wrote:
> I fixed it!
> 
> I autoconnected the first page to the second page and the table on the
> last page miraculously rolled over to a new page.
> 
> I don't know why that worked, but I'm glad it did!
> 

It worked because text frames that have a flow tag and autoconnection 
cause FM to automatically create more pages when text reaches the bottom 
of the frames.  (That's part of the reason it's called a "flow" -- 
content is a continuous stream, although it is visible only in discrete 
frames and pages.)

Text frames that have no flow connection or tag exist in isolation and 
do not cause more pages to be created when they contain too much text.

(Note re terminology:  it is actually frames, not pages, that are 
connected.)

The only remaining "don't know" is how the disconnected frame got 
created in the first place.  It's possible that someone deliberately 
used the Special > Add Disconnected Pages command, thereby foiling FM's 
beautiful engineering with their manual intervention.  (Unlike with MS 
Weird, it's better to let FM do its own thing ;-)

On the other hand, it is remarkably easy to accidentally create a 
flowless, disconnected text frame by selecting a normal frame 
(CTRL-click) and moving it while the CTRL key is still pressed.  A 
"mouse-stutter" that moves the frame even one pixel and back again is 
enough to duplicate the frame (minus flow tag) directly on top of the 
original.  If content happens to end on that page, you will see the 
end-of-flow marker on the connected frame, while also seeing such a 
marker on the disconnected (disconcerting!) frame on top of it.  But if 
your content doesn't end on the connected page, it can be very 
mystifying indeed.

HTH,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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Table won't roll to next page

[Deirdre Reagan]

OK!

Now I think I have a related problem.

I have three pages of figures, followed by a table, followed by three
figures, followed by a table.

The first table scrolls for two pages, jumps the three figures, and
continues scrolling as part of the second table.

Yikes!

I've disconnected all the pages and am reconnecting them, one by one,
but when I connect the first table to the figure, it automatically
connects to the second table.

Any thoughts?

I'm really new at this stuff and I really appreciate your help!

Deirdre
On 1/12/09, Art Campbell  wrote:
> I'd make a guess that you have another text frame on that page,
> probably one that's not auto-connected to anything.
>
> Try poking around with the pointer tool, or maybe do a Select All on
> the page. Either one would let you select or unselect objects, or move
> them around so you can see if anything is there but hidden.
>
> Art
>
> Art Campbell
>   art.campbell at gmail.com
>  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
> Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>  No disclaimers apply.
>   DoD 358
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Deirdre Reagan
>  wrote:
> > Thanks everyone for your help.  I copied the table to a new blank
> > document and the table rolled over just fine, so it appears that my
> > problem is with the master pages.
> >
> > My document starts on page 10004. I have three pages of figures, then
> > three pages of table, then three pages of figures and two more pages
> > of table.  It's the last page of the last table that is causing me
> > grief.
> >
> > The table in the middle of the document is working just fine. The
> > table at the end of the document won't roll to a new page, so 10 or so
> > rows are disappearing.
> >
> > I've doubled checked the master page usage.  For the first table, the
> > page are Custom Right, Custom Left, Custom Right.  For the second
> > table, the pages are Custom Right, Custom Left.  So as far as the
> > table will go, it is using the same master pages as the previous
> > table.
> >
> > When I try to change the pagination from Make Page Count Even to Make
> > Page Count Odd, I get this message:
> >
> > The new column layout in DOCNAME.fm seems to overlap other objects on
> > some body pages.
> >
> > Are you sure you want to do this?
> >
> > Number of pages affected: 5.  First page: 10008.
> >
> > (***end of message***)
> >
> > Page 10008 is the first page of the first table.
> >
> > Any idea what that might mean?
> >
> > Deirdre
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1/12/09, Fred Ridder  wrote:
> >> Deirdre Reagan asked:
> >>
> >> > I'm having a problem with the table on the last page of my file. I
> >> > add 10 more rows, and the rows disapper on the page -- they don't
> >> > force a new page. I've seen this before and I seem to remember it's a
> >> > simple fix, but for the life of me I can't remember what to do!
> >> >
> >> > I've gone into pagination and changed the setting from "Make Page
> >> > Count Even" to "Make Page Count Odd," but that hasn't done anything.
> >>
> >> I can think of three possible causes of this kind of behavior right off
> >> the top of my head:
> >> 1) One or more columns straddled across rows.
> >> 2) Keep With Next Row and/or Keep With Previous Row set
> >> in Table>Row Format
> >> 3) A very large value set for Orphan Rows in the Table Designer.
> >>
> >> Does the existing last page use the default master page? Or does it
> >> use some special master page? There are probably some circumstances
> >> where that might also play a role.
> >>
> >> -FR
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Table won't roll to next page

[Art Campbell]

Deirdre,

Do you have a working chapter or a template without flow problems?

If so, it may be easier to:

   - Save the working chapter as a new file.
   - Clean all the content out of the working chapter. Crl-a to select all,
   then Ctrl-x to cut.
   - Copy in the content from your problem file.
   - Put your cursor in the first flow, Ctrl-a then Ctrl-x.
  - Swap to the new file, and paste. Ctrl-v.
  - Back in the original, go to the next chunk of content and repeat,
  pasting that into the correct position.
  - Continue until your original source file is empty.
  - In the new file, import variables from your source file and tags and
  stuff if you need them. DON'T import the page layouts.
  - DON'T save the now-empty original, so you have a backup copy, just
  in case.

This is likely to be easier than trying to fix something if you're not sure
what's broken or how to repair it.

Art

Art Campbell
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redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
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On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Deirdre Reagan
wrote:

> OK!
>
> Now I think I have a related problem.
>
> I have three pages of figures, followed by a table, followed by three
> figures, followed by a table.
>
> The first table scrolls for two pages, jumps the three figures, and
> continues scrolling as part of the second table.
>
> Yikes!
>
> I've disconnected all the pages and am reconnecting them, one by one,
> but when I connect the first table to the figure, it automatically
> connects to the second table.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> I'm really new at this stuff and I really appreciate your help!
>
> Deirdre
> On 1/12/09, Art Campbell  wrote:
> > I'd make a guess that you have another text frame on that page,
> > probably one that's not auto-connected to anything.
> >
> > Try poking around with the pointer tool, or maybe do a Select All on
> > the page. Either one would let you select or unselect objects, or move
> > them around so you can see if anything is there but hidden.
> >
> > Art
> >
> > Art Campbell
> >   art.campbell at gmail.com
> >  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
> > Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
> >  No disclaimers
> apply.
> >   DoD 358
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Deirdre Reagan
> >  wrote:
> > > Thanks everyone for your help.  I copied the table to a new blank
> > > document and the table rolled over just fine, so it appears that my
> > > problem is with the master pages.
> > >
> > > My document starts on page 10004. I have three pages of figures, then
> > > three pages of table, then three pages of figures and two more pages
> > > of table.  It's the last page of the last table that is causing me
> > > grief.
> > >
> > > The table in the middle of the document is working just fine. The
> > > table at the end of the document won't roll to a new page, so 10 or so
> > > rows are disappearing.
> > >
> > > I've doubled checked the master page usage.  For the first table, the
> > > page are Custom Right, Custom Left, Custom Right.  For the second
> > > table, the pages are Custom Right, Custom Left.  So as far as the
> > > table will go, it is using the same master pages as the previous
> > > table.
> > >
> > > When I try to change the pagination from Make Page Count Even to Make
> > > Page Count Odd, I get this message:
> > >
> > > The new column layout in DOCNAME.fm seems to overlap other objects on
> > > some body pages.
> > >
> > > Are you sure you want to do this?
> > >
> > > Number of pages affected: 5.  First page: 10008.
> > >
> > > (***end of message***)
> > >
> > > Page 10008 is the first page of the first table.
> > >
> > > Any idea what that might mean?
> > >
> > > Deirdre
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 1/12/09, Fred Ridder  wrote:
> > >> Deirdre Reagan asked:
> > >>
> > >> > I'm having a problem with the table on the last page of my file. I
> > >> > add 10 more rows, and the rows disapper on the page -- they don't
> > >> > force a new page. I've seen this before and I seem to remember it's
> a
> > >> > simple fix, but for the life of me I can't remember what to do!
> > >> >
> > >> > I've gone into pagination and changed the setting from "Make Page
> > >> > Count Even" to "Make Page Count Odd," but that hasn't done anything.
> > >>
> > >> I can think of three possible causes of this kind of behavior right
> off
> > >> the top of my head:
> > >> 1) One or more columns straddled across rows.
> > >> 2) Keep With Next Row and/or Keep With Previous Row set
> > >> in Table>Row Format
> > >> 3) A very large value set for Orphan Rows in the Table Designer.
> > >>
> > >> Does 

Table won't roll to next page

[Deirdre Reagan]

Thanks, Art -- that is exactly what I'm in the process of doing now.
I'm under a deadline, and I don't know what the problem is, and I'm
getting a bit flustered, so I just am hacking away at cut and paste.

Thanks,

Deirdre

On 1/13/09, Art Campbell  wrote:
> Deirdre,
>
> Do you have a working chapter or a template without flow problems?
>
> If so, it may be easier to:
>
> Save the working chapter as a new file.
> Clean all the content out of the working chapter. Crl-a to select all, then
> Ctrl-x to cut.
> Copy in the content from your problem file.
>
> Put your cursor in the first flow, Ctrl-a then Ctrl-x.
> Swap to the new file, and paste. Ctrl-v.
> Back in the original, go to the next chunk of content and repeat, pasting
> that into the correct position.
> Continue until your original source file is empty.
> In the new file, import variables from your source file and tags and stuff
> if you need them. DON'T import the page layouts.
> DON'T save the now-empty original, so you have a backup copy, just in case.
> This is likely to be easier than trying to fix something if you're not sure
> what's broken or how to repair it.
>
> Art
>
> Art Campbell
>  art.campbell at gmail.com
>  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a
> redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>  No disclaimers apply.
>   DoD 358
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Deirdre Reagan 
> wrote:
> > OK!
> >
> > Now I think I have a related problem.
> >
> > I have three pages of figures, followed by a table, followed by three
> > figures, followed by a table.
> >
> > The first table scrolls for two pages, jumps the three figures, and
> > continues scrolling as part of the second table.
> >
> > Yikes!
> >
> > I've disconnected all the pages and am reconnecting them, one by one,
> > but when I connect the first table to the figure, it automatically
> > connects to the second table.
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > I'm really new at this stuff and I really appreciate your help!
> >
> > Deirdre
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1/12/09, Art Campbell  wrote:
> > > I'd make a guess that you have another text frame on that page,
> > > probably one that's not auto-connected to anything.
> > >
> > > Try poking around with the pointer tool, or maybe do a Select All on
> > > the page. Either one would let you select or unselect objects, or move
> > > them around so you can see if anything is there but hidden.
> > >
> > > Art
> > >
> > > Art Campbell
> > >   art.campbell at gmail.com
> > >  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
> > > Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
> > >  No disclaimers
> apply.
> > >   DoD 358
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Deirdre Reagan
> > >  wrote:
> > > > Thanks everyone for your help.  I copied the table to a new blank
> > > > document and the table rolled over just fine, so it appears that my
> > > > problem is with the master pages.
> > > >
> > > > My document starts on page 10004. I have three pages of figures, then
> > > > three pages of table, then three pages of figures and two more pages
> > > > of table.  It's the last page of the last table that is causing me
> > > > grief.
> > > >
> > > > The table in the middle of the document is working just fine. The
> > > > table at the end of the document won't roll to a new page, so 10 or so
> > > > rows are disappearing.
> > > >
> > > > I've doubled checked the master page usage.  For the first table, the
> > > > page are Custom Right, Custom Left, Custom Right.  For the second
> > > > table, the pages are Custom Right, Custom Left.  So as far as the
> > > > table will go, it is using the same master pages as the previous
> > > > table.
> > > >
> > > > When I try to change the pagination from Make Page Count Even to Make
> > > > Page Count Odd, I get this message:
> > > >
> > > > The new column layout in DOCNAME.fm seems to overlap other objects on
> > > > some body pages.
> > > >
> > > > Are you sure you want to do this?
> > > >
> > > > Number of pages affected: 5.  First page: 10008.
> > > >
> > > > (***end of message***)
> > > >
> > > > Page 10008 is the first page of the first table.
> > > >
> > > > Any idea what that might mean?
> > > >
> > > > Deirdre
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 1/12/09, Fred Ridder  wrote:
> > > >> Deirdre Reagan asked:
> > > >>
> > > >> > I'm having a problem with the table on the last page of my file. I
> > > >> > add 10 more rows, and the rows disapper on the page -- they don't
> > > >> > force a new page. I've seen this before and I seem to remember it's
> a
> > > >> > simple fix, but for the life of me I can't remember what to do!
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I've gone into pagination and changed the setting from "Make Page
> 

See all open markers?

[Scott Prentice]

There are a number of Marker-related plugins .. 10 are listed in our 
Tool Search database ..

http://leximation.com/toolsearch/?type=P=FM=marker

(If anyone knows of others .. please let me know!)

Cheers,

...scott

Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
www.leximation.com
+1.415.485.1892



Shlomo Perets wrote:
> In addition to the options mentioned in this thread, there is 
> MarkerMadness, http://www.zenserve.com
>
>
> Shlomo Perets
>
> MicroType * http://www.microtype.com
> FrameMaker training & consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers
>
> "Improve Your FrameMaker Skills" live web-based training sessions
>
>
>   

Distinguishing between Paragraphs and Insets in a Framemaker Doc

[Charles Monck]

Hi Rick,

Very many thanks for that ... I have it doing just what I want!

Charlie Monck
Technical Author
Tel: 01235 822092
Oxford Semiconductor Ltd.
25 Milton Park, Abingdon
Oxfordshire
OX14 4SH
Registered in England no 2733820
Registered Address: As above 


-Original Message-
From: Rick Quatro [mailto:frameexp...@truevine.net] 
Sent: 12 January 2009 18:32
To: Charles Monck; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Distinguishing between Paragraphs and Insets in a
Framemaker Doc

Hi Charles,

You can do something like this, assuming the oDoc is your document
object.

Get TextList InObject(oDoc.MainFlowInDoc) NewVar(tTextList)
  PgfBegin TextInsetBegin;
Loop While(i <= tTextList.Count) LoopVar(i) Init(1) Incr(1)
  If tTextList[i].TextType = 'PgfBegin'
Set oPgf = tTextList[i].TextData;
  ElseIf tTextList[i].TextType = 'TextInsetBegin'
Set oTi = tTextList[i].TextData;
  EndIf
EndLoop

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


> Hello ...
>
> Complete FrameScript newbie here!
>
> I wonder if there is a way of using FrameScript to go through a
document
> taking one course of action if the next "object" in the document is a
> paragraph (Here I wish to add a text inset - and that is all working
> fine)) and another course of action if the next "object" is a text
inset
> (when I find a particular text inset I want to edit the last previous
> paragraph which is "Heading1" format. "Pseudo-code" for the main
"path"
> of the script would be something like:-
>
> Local lvObject(pvDocVar.FirstObjectInDoc);
>
> Loop While(lvObject)
>
> If (Object = Paragraph) then
>
> ... do something here ...
>
> Else if (Object = TextInset) then
>
> ... do something else here ...
>
> Endif
>
> Set lvObject = lvTextInset.NextObjectInDoc;
>
> EndLoop;
>
> Hoping that someone can help !
>
> Thanks.
>
> ___
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PDF drawings into FrameMaker

[Adrianne Mora]

I want to thank everyone for their responses about my issue with
importing PDF drawings into FrameMaker. Some suggested using different
formats, but with our software setup, PDF is my only way. The PDF prints
perfectly fine -- until I import it into FM! It's rather frustrating.



That said, I used PDF-Fly http://www.pdf-fly.com/ to convert the files
into MIF. This works beautifully! Thanks for the suggestion, Jan.



Now I have to figure out how I'm going to convince my company to buy the
program when FM should do this, without a hitch, on its own



Adrianne

Please take care of the environment, print only if necessary.

See all open markers?

[Mike Wickham]

Shlomo wrote:

> In addition to the options mentioned in this thread, there is
> MarkerMadness, http://www.zenserve.com

Actually, the address is http://www.zenserve.co.uk, though that link does 
not appear to work either.

Mike Wickham

Unstructured FM to DITA XML

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Robyn

I have done quite a lot of unstructured FM to DITA XML conversions, but I
use Mif2Go for this because it's a lot more powerful than Frame's conversion
tables.

I've got a Captivate Flash movie that shows you how the conversion process
goes. If you're interested, just let me know and I'll send you a copy.

Cheers


-- 
Yves Barbion ? Managing Director ? Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor
www.scripto.nu  ? skype: yves.barbion  ? T: +32 494 12 01 89


On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 2:56 PM,  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> Has anyone ever done a conversion from unstructured FM to DITA XML (using
> FM's paragraph tags, etc.)? If so, do you have a conversion table that I
> could
> use. (I figured it would be a few steps ahead of beginning the conversion
> table  from scratch.)
>
> Thanks!
> Robyn
> **New year...new news.  Be the first to know what is making
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Unstructured FM to DITA XML

[Art Campbell]

Yves,

Could you post that on a public server? (If you'd like to join the Tech Comm
Suite user's group, you'd be welcome to use that site:
http://groups.google.com/group/TCS-Users?hl=en)

If not, I'd like to receive an email copy too.

Art

Art Campbell
 art.campbell at gmail.com
 "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a
redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
  DoD 358


On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Yves Barbion wrote:

> Hi Robyn
>
> I have done quite a lot of unstructured FM to DITA XML conversions, but I
> use Mif2Go for this because it's a lot more powerful than Frame's
> conversion
> tables.
>
> I've got a Captivate Flash movie that shows you how the conversion process
> goes. If you're interested, just let me know and I'll send you a copy.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> --
> Yves Barbion ? Managing Director ? Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor
> www.scripto.nu  ? skype: yves.barbion  ? T: +32 494 12 01 89
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 2:56 PM,  wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > Has anyone ever done a conversion from unstructured FM to DITA XML (using
> > FM's paragraph tags, etc.)? If so, do you have a conversion table that I
> > could
> > use. (I figured it would be a few steps ahead of beginning the conversion
> > table  from scratch.)
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Robyn
> > **New year...new news.  Be the first to know what is making
> > headlines. (http://news.aol.com?ncid=emlcntusnews0002)
> > ___
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Unstructured FM to DITA XML

[David Spreadbury]

Yves,
Yes, yes, yes, please post it, or a link where it could be downloaded. I would 
think that this would be very beneficial for a lot of the watchers on here, or 
the TCS site.

--- On Tue, 1/13/09, Art Campbell  wrote:

From: Art Campbell 
Subject: Re: Unstructured FM to DITA XML
To: "Yves Barbion" 
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 2:35 PM

Yves,

Could you post that on a public server? (If you'd like to join the Tech
Comm
Suite user's group, you'd be welcome to use that site:
http://groups.google.com/group/TCS-Users?hl=en)

If not, I'd like to receive an email copy too.

Art

Art Campbell
 art.campbell at gmail.com
 "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent and a
redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
  DoD 358


On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Yves Barbion
wrote:

> Hi Robyn
>
> I have done quite a lot of unstructured FM to DITA XML conversions, but I
> use Mif2Go for this because it's a lot more powerful than Frame's
> conversion
> tables.
>
> I've got a Captivate Flash movie that shows you how the conversion
process
> goes. If you're interested, just let me know and I'll send you a
copy.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> --
> Yves Barbion ? Managing Director ? Adobe-Certified FrameMaker
Instructor
> www.scripto.nu  ? skype: yves.barbion  ? T: +32 494 12 01 89
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 2:56 PM,  wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > Has anyone ever done a conversion from unstructured FM to DITA XML
(using
> > FM's paragraph tags, etc.)? If so, do you have a conversion table
that I
> > could
> > use. (I figured it would be a few steps ahead of beginning the
conversion
> > table  from scratch.)
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Robyn
> > **New year...new news.  Be the first to know what is
making
> > headlines. (http://news.aol.com?ncid=emlcntusnews0002)
> > ___
> >
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Table won't roll to next page

[Deirdre Reagan]

Just to let everyone know how it ended up, I deleted the two tables
and pasted them into a blank document.  Then I went to the end of the
third page, hit return, and pasted in the first table, then did the
same for the second table at the end of the document.

Now the tables roll just fine.

I think the first page of the document was disconnected from the other
pages, and I added a small hidden disconnected text frame on the first
page to provide a Chapter heading for the TOC.  These could be the
culprit, or who knows -- I'm just glad I've got the documents tamed.

I really appreciate all the feedback you guys gave me.  I've been at
this for a year now, and feel like I've moved about an inch forward on
the mile-long learning curve that is FrameMaker.  And I am a pretty
sharp person!  I don't know if it's just because I'm working without
an expert here, or if my brain just doesn't function in FM ways, but I
am so impressed by and thankful for the body of knowledge you all to
bring to bear to my problems.

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Deirdre



On 1/12/09, Art Campbell  wrote:
> I'd make a guess that you have another text frame on that page,
> probably one that's not auto-connected to anything.
>
> Try poking around with the pointer tool, or maybe do a Select All on
> the page. Either one would let you select or unselect objects, or move
> them around so you can see if anything is there but hidden.
>
> Art
>
> Art Campbell
>   art.campbell at gmail.com
>  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
> Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>  No disclaimers apply.
>   DoD 358
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Deirdre Reagan
>  wrote:
> > Thanks everyone for your help.  I copied the table to a new blank
> > document and the table rolled over just fine, so it appears that my
> > problem is with the master pages.
> >
> > My document starts on page 10004. I have three pages of figures, then
> > three pages of table, then three pages of figures and two more pages
> > of table.  It's the last page of the last table that is causing me
> > grief.
> >
> > The table in the middle of the document is working just fine. The
> > table at the end of the document won't roll to a new page, so 10 or so
> > rows are disappearing.
> >
> > I've doubled checked the master page usage.  For the first table, the
> > page are Custom Right, Custom Left, Custom Right.  For the second
> > table, the pages are Custom Right, Custom Left.  So as far as the
> > table will go, it is using the same master pages as the previous
> > table.
> >
> > When I try to change the pagination from Make Page Count Even to Make
> > Page Count Odd, I get this message:
> >
> > The new column layout in DOCNAME.fm seems to overlap other objects on
> > some body pages.
> >
> > Are you sure you want to do this?
> >
> > Number of pages affected: 5.  First page: 10008.
> >
> > (***end of message***)
> >
> > Page 10008 is the first page of the first table.
> >
> > Any idea what that might mean?
> >
> > Deirdre
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1/12/09, Fred Ridder  wrote:
> >> Deirdre Reagan asked:
> >>
> >> > I'm having a problem with the table on the last page of my file. I
> >> > add 10 more rows, and the rows disapper on the page -- they don't
> >> > force a new page. I've seen this before and I seem to remember it's a
> >> > simple fix, but for the life of me I can't remember what to do!
> >> >
> >> > I've gone into pagination and changed the setting from "Make Page
> >> > Count Even" to "Make Page Count Odd," but that hasn't done anything.
> >>
> >> I can think of three possible causes of this kind of behavior right off
> >> the top of my head:
> >> 1) One or more columns straddled across rows.
> >> 2) Keep With Next Row and/or Keep With Previous Row set
> >> in Table>Row Format
> >> 3) A very large value set for Orphan Rows in the Table Designer.
> >>
> >> Does the existing last page use the default master page? Or does it
> >> use some special master page? There are probably some circumstances
> >> where that might also play a role.
> >>
> >> -FR
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Table won't roll to next page

[Maxwell Hoffmann]

Deirdre,

I have not had this happen with FM 8.0, but I have experienced what you are
describing with previous  versions of FrameMaker. Once fix that sometimes
works is to save the document as MIF, then reopen and rename as the binary
*.fm file. 

When this happened to me, I could not find any additional text columns or
odd features on the body or master page. When this happened to me, it was
always with a table at the end of the document. 

Try saving to MIF and see if that helps.

_ 

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Director, Document Globalization Practice
Globalization Partners International (GPI)???
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-Original Message-
From: Deirdre Reagan [mailto:deirdre.rea...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 12:11 PM
To: Framer's List
Subject: Table won't roll to next page

Hi All!

FM 8.0, Windows 3.1.

Just kidding -- Windows XP.

I'm having a problem with the table on the last page of my file.  I
add 10 more rows, and the rows disapper on the page -- they don't
force a new page.  I've seen this before and I seem to remember it's a
simple fix, but for the life of me I can't remember what to do!

I've gone into pagination and changed the setting from "Make Page
Count Even" to "Make Page Count Odd," but that hasn't done anything.

Any thoughts?

Thanks!

Deirdre

Subject: Challenge with Trados

[Maxwell Hoffmann]

Marc,

I concur with Wim's analysis. Whenever I have seen this in the past it has
always been a case of someone using an incorrect version of Trados. Many
translation agencies use contract linguists and occasionally, such a
linguist will not have all of the correct filters or files when they prep
their translated work.

Your translation agency/vendor should be preparing the files and also doing
post-translation engineering to ensure that such glitches do not happen. 

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-Original Message-
From: Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp [mailto:w...@idtp.eu] 
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 12:17 AM
To: marc.creaghan at sympatico.ca
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Subject: Challenge with Trados

Hi Marc,

Indeed, best practice is to save as MIF and use that to work with Trados.
The Trados S-Tagger filters the MIF to either tagged RTF or STF - where STF
is the most reliable. This file wil be used by the translators and after
translation filtered back to MIF. STF is translated using the Trados Tag
Editor.
The loss of accented characters is a known issue and indicates that your
client (or his translation agency) is not using the correct version of
Trados in combination with the right filters (i.e. compatible with FM 8.0);
The translated files (in RTF) are probably ok, but the filtering back to FM
causes the error. Using RTF for translation indicates thet probably an older
version of Trados is used. They should consult the Trados helpdesk (actually
SDL) to solve the problem.

HTH,

Best wishes for 2009!

Wim Hooghwinkel

Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in FrameMaker

iDTP

International DTP and Documentation Consultancy

tel. +31652036811
info at idtp.eu 
www.idtp.eu

PDF drawings into FrameMaker

[Dennis Brunnenmeyer]

Adrianne

What application you were using to create your PDF files from the DWG 
files in the first place? I've never had a problem with PDFs created 
from CAD packages using the Adobe PDF virtual printer installed with Frame.

Dennis Brunnenmeyer

At 05:44 AM 1/13/2009, Adrianne Mora wrote:
>I want to thank everyone for their responses about my issue with
>importing PDF drawings into FrameMaker. Some suggested using different
>formats, but with our software setup, PDF is my only way. The PDF prints
>perfectly fine -- until I import it into FM! It's rather frustrating.
>
>
>
>That said, I used PDF-Fly http://www.pdf-fly.com/ to convert the files
>into MIF. This works beautifully! Thanks for the suggestion, Jan.
>
>
>
>Now I have to figure out how I'm going to convince my company to buy the
>program when FM should do this, without a hitch, on its own
>
>
>
>Adrianne
>
>Please take care of the environment, print only if necessary.
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