RE: single character page numbering (with no hyphen)

[Ken Poshedly]

Ouch, not so hard!!!

I'd heard from a few others about the Master Pages issue and will 
check into that when I get to the office this morning. (It's coming 
up on 6:30 a.m. here and I leave by 7 to get there by 8:30 a.m. -- a 
53-mile jaunt).

-- Kenpo in metro Atlanta


At 02:58 AM 2/16/2010, Combs, Richard wrote:
Ken, if you were here right now, I'd put on my chrome Patton helmet, 
slap you upside the head, and bark, Snap out of it, soldier! But 
that's probably just the adult beverages talking.

Stop looking at Format This and Format That, and actually 
_look_at_the_footers_ on your master pages. I'm guessing they 
contain either  -# or $chapnum-# (sans quotes, of course). 
Delete the - (or $chapnum-), and you're good to go.

But remind yourself not to import page layouts from a chapter file 
to your frontmatter files. If you're going to use folio numbering 
(chapter#-page#) for your chapters and traditional roman numbering 
(i, ii, etc.) for your frontmatter, then you have to use different 
master pages for the frontmatter files.

Richard


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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com on behalf of Ken Poshedly
Sent: Mon 2/15/2010 7:14 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: single character page numbering (with no hyphen)

FM8.0 on a Windows Vista platform

I'm sure there's a simple answer for this, but I've really tried all
I can think of and can't seem to find a way to get rid of the
preceding hyphen for a page number within a footer.

Like it or not, I'm trying to place just a single, lower-case Roman
numeral in the footer of my TOC. So with the file open and Master
Pages view selected, I choose Format  Headers  Footers  Insert Page #

What I get is a hyphen preceding the pound-sign variable or
placeholder or whatever it is.

I've checked Format  Document  Numbering and tried to make sure
there is nothing in the Chapter box.

I've checked Format  Paragraph Designer  Numbering (just to see if
a hyphen is included in the numbering equation) but there is no
numbering scheme to found there at all.

I've checked Special  Variable  Edit Definition and deleted the
unnecessary building blocks for Current Page # (leaving only
$curpagenum with no preceding hyphen) and, for whatever reason,
that didn't work.

Note that in the rest of the book, I do use a chapter number with
hyphen with page number combo. But I don't want it that way in the
TOC and I don't want to designate the TOC as section 0. No comments,
please, on my choice of document or numbering decisions.

So short of actually typing in an i and an ii and so on, what else to do?

-- Kenpo in Atlanta


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Flowing Tables into Structured FrameMaker

[George, Brenda (CAI)]

I am importing an XML file into Structured FrameMaker that contains a table. 
When I created the table, I sized the table to fit in the text box. If I insert 
the table, it inserts with the correct size.

When I flow xml into the structured FrameMaker template that contains the 
table, the flowed table is not sized correctly and needs to be manually resized.

Do I need to add column width settings to the EDD in order to get the table to 
size correctly after the xml file has been flowed into the structured 
FrameMaker template?

If so how is this done?

Brenda George
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Re: pure XML

[meg miranda]

Just to add to the mix.  I'm noticing also that companies, irregardless of 
tool, customize their XML in some way that makes it become 'unpure'.  

The files that I authored in Epic, that I thought should have been very close 
to the open source version of XML, where unreadable by the open source 
compiler.  I had nothing fancy, just a heading, and a couple of paragraphs. 

I find it facinating.  And it feels like there is the potential for some sort 
of fancy doctoral study on this sort of thing.  How open source/industry 
standard things become customized and particular to a company or group of 
people. DocBook vs DITA included. Both are XML, but o, how different they are.

-meg



 
Message: 1
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 09:09:51 -0600
From: Jan Whitacre jwhi...@verizon.net
Subject: XML Output  from FrameMaker not Pure XML?
 I was told that the XML output from FrameMaker was not ?pure XML,?...that it
adds some kind of FrameMaker tagging.  


  
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Re: Disobedient hyperlinks

[Steve Johnson]

Post this to the Adobe Frame forum also. There I learned about, and
then forgot, a plug-in that might help with this.

On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Michael Zaichenko
biozaiche...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hello Framers,

 here is what I'm trying to accomplish:

 1. Create a pop-up menu of hypertext commands
 2. Create a pop-up submenu of hypertext commands
 3. Execute a script from the menu.

 Example:

 Ocean (menu)
     Sea water (item - exec script)
     Sea plants (item - exec script)
     Sea animals (submenu)
           Whales (item - exec scipt)
           Sharks (item - exec script)

 All is going well and I'm getting things to pop up correctly. Scripts run Ok 
 on the first level of items - Sea water and Sea plants but when I get to Sea 
 animals, I do get a popup of items - Whales and sharks but the script won't 
 run. I checked the links and names and these are in order. I tested links 
 from a reference page where they are described and the script is running fine 
 if you Alt+Ctrl+Click on hypertext in the reference page. However when you 
 are on the Body page and try to run the above scenario the script won't 
 execute.

 What am I doing wrong here.

 Michael

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single character page numbering (with no hyphen)

[Combs, Richard]

Ken, if you were here right now, I'd put on my chrome Patton helmet, slap you 
upside the head, and bark, "Snap out of it, soldier!" But that's probably just 
the adult beverages talking. 

Stop looking at Format This and Format That, and actually _look_at_the_footers_ 
on your master pages. I'm guessing they contain either " -#" or "<$chapnum>-#" 
(sans quotes, of course). Delete the "-" (or "<$chapnum>-"), and you're good to 
go. 

But remind yourself not to import page layouts from a chapter file to your 
frontmatter files. If you're going to use folio numbering (chapter#-page#) for 
your chapters and traditional roman numbering (i, ii, etc.) for your 
frontmatter, then you have to use different master pages for the frontmatter 
files. 

Richard



From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com on behalf of Ken Poshedly
Sent: Mon 2/15/2010 7:14 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: single character page numbering (with no hyphen)



FM8.0 on a Windows Vista platform

I'm sure there's a simple answer for this, but I've really tried all
I can think of and can't seem to find a way to get rid of the
preceding hyphen for a page number within a footer.

Like it or not, I'm trying to place just a single, lower-case Roman
numeral in the footer of my TOC. So with the file open and Master
Pages view selected, I choose Format > Headers & Footers > Insert Page #

What I get is a hyphen preceding the pound-sign variable or
placeholder or whatever it is.

I've checked Format > Document > Numbering and tried to make sure
there is nothing in the Chapter box.

I've checked Format > Paragraph Designer > Numbering (just to see if
a hyphen is included in the numbering equation) but there is no
numbering scheme to found there at all.

I've checked Special > Variable > Edit Definition and deleted the
unnecessary building blocks for Current Page # (leaving only
<$curpagenum> with no preceding hyphen) and, for whatever reason,
that didn't work.

Note that in the rest of the book, I do use a chapter number with
hyphen with page number combo. But I don't want it that way in the
TOC and I don't want to designate the TOC as section 0. No comments,
please, on my choice of document or numbering decisions.

So short of actually typing in an i and an ii and so on, what else to do?

-- Kenpo in Atlanta


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single character page numbering (with no hyphen)

[Ken Poshedly]

Ouch, not so hard!!!

I'd heard from a few others about the Master Pages issue and will 
check into that when I get to the office this morning. (It's coming 
up on 6:30 a.m. here and I leave by 7 to get there by 8:30 a.m. -- a 
53-mile jaunt).

-- Kenpo in metro Atlanta


At 02:58 AM 2/16/2010, Combs, Richard wrote:
>Ken, if you were here right now, I'd put on my chrome Patton helmet, 
>slap you upside the head, and bark, "Snap out of it, soldier!" But 
>that's probably just the adult beverages talking.
>
>Stop looking at Format This and Format That, and actually 
>_look_at_the_footers_ on your master pages. I'm guessing they 
>contain either " -#" or "<$chapnum>-#" (sans quotes, of course). 
>Delete the "-" (or "<$chapnum>-"), and you're good to go.
>
>But remind yourself not to import page layouts from a chapter file 
>to your frontmatter files. If you're going to use folio numbering 
>(chapter#-page#) for your chapters and traditional roman numbering 
>(i, ii, etc.) for your frontmatter, then you have to use different 
>master pages for the frontmatter files.
>
>Richard
>
>
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>From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com on behalf of Ken Poshedly
>Sent: Mon 2/15/2010 7:14 PM
>To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>Subject: single character page numbering (with no hyphen)
>
>FM8.0 on a Windows Vista platform
>
>I'm sure there's a simple answer for this, but I've really tried all
>I can think of and can't seem to find a way to get rid of the
>preceding hyphen for a page number within a footer.
>
>Like it or not, I'm trying to place just a single, lower-case Roman
>numeral in the footer of my TOC. So with the file open and Master
>Pages view selected, I choose Format > Headers & Footers > Insert Page #
>
>What I get is a hyphen preceding the pound-sign variable or
>placeholder or whatever it is.
>
>I've checked Format > Document > Numbering and tried to make sure
>there is nothing in the Chapter box.
>
>I've checked Format > Paragraph Designer > Numbering (just to see if
>a hyphen is included in the numbering equation) but there is no
>numbering scheme to found there at all.
>
>I've checked Special > Variable > Edit Definition and deleted the
>unnecessary building blocks for Current Page # (leaving only
><$curpagenum> with no preceding hyphen) and, for whatever reason,
>that didn't work.
>
>Note that in the rest of the book, I do use a chapter number with
>hyphen with page number combo. But I don't want it that way in the
>TOC and I don't want to designate the TOC as section 0. No comments,
>please, on my choice of document or numbering decisions.
>
>So short of actually typing in an i and an ii and so on, what else to do?
>
>-- Kenpo in Atlanta
>
>
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Flowing Tables into Structured FrameMaker

[George, Brenda (CAI)]

I am importing an XML file into Structured FrameMaker that contains a table. 
When I created the table, I sized the table to fit in the text box. If I insert 
the table, it inserts with the correct size.

When I flow xml into the structured FrameMaker template that contains the 
table, the flowed table is not sized correctly and needs to be manually resized.

Do I need to add column width settings to the EDD in order to get the table to 
size correctly after the xml file has been flowed into the structured 
FrameMaker template?

If so how is this done?

Brenda George
Desk: (724) 720-8491
bgeorge at federatedinv.com



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Disobedient hyperlinks

[Michael Zaichenko]

Hello Framers,

here is what I'm trying to accomplish:

1. Create a pop-up menu of hypertext commands
2. Create a pop-up submenu of hypertext commands
3. Execute a script from the menu.

Example:

Ocean (menu)
 Sea water (item - exec script)
 Sea plants (item - exec script)
 Sea animals (submenu)
   Whales (item - exec scipt)
   Sharks (item - exec script)

All is going well and I'm getting things to pop up correctly. Scripts run Ok on 
the first level of items - Sea water and Sea plants but when I get to Sea 
animals, I do get a popup of items - Whales and sharks but the script won't 
run. I checked the links and names and these are in order. I tested links from 
a reference page where they are described and the script is running fine if you 
Alt+Ctrl+Click on hypertext in the reference page. However when you are on the 
Body page and try to run the above scenario the script won't execute.

What am I doing wrong here.

Michael

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pure XML

[meg miranda]

Just to add to the mix.? I'm noticing also that companies, irregardless of 
tool, customize their XML in some way that makes it become 'unpure'.? 

The files that I authored in Epic, that I thought should have been very close 
to the open source version of XML, where unreadable by the open source 
compiler.? I had nothing fancy, just a heading, and a couple of paragraphs. 

I find it facinating.? And it feels like there is the potential for some sort 
of fancy doctoral study on this sort of thing.? How open source/industry 
standard things become customized and particular to a company or group of 
people. DocBook vs DITA included. Both are XML, but o, how different they are.

-meg



?
Message: 1
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 09:09:51 -0600
From: Jan Whitacre 
Subject: XML Output? from FrameMaker not Pure XML?
?I was told that the XML output from FrameMaker was not ?pure XML,?...that it
adds some kind of FrameMaker tagging.? 

Disobedient hyperlinks

[Steve Johnson]

Post this to the Adobe Frame forum also. There I learned about, and
then forgot, a plug-in that might help with this.

On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Michael Zaichenko
 wrote:
>
> Hello Framers,
>
> here is what I'm trying to accomplish:
>
> 1. Create a pop-up menu of hypertext commands
> 2. Create a pop-up submenu of hypertext commands
> 3. Execute a script from the menu.
>
> Example:
>
> Ocean (menu)
> ? ? Sea water (item - exec script)
> ? ? Sea plants (item - exec script)
> ? ? Sea animals (submenu)
> ? ? ? ? ? Whales (item - exec scipt)
> ? ? ? ? ? Sharks (item - exec script)
>
> All is going well and I'm getting things to pop up correctly. Scripts run Ok 
> on the first level of items - Sea water and Sea plants but when I get to Sea 
> animals, I do get a popup of items - Whales and sharks but the script won't 
> run. I checked the links and names and these are in order. I tested links 
> from a reference page where they are described and the script is running fine 
> if you Alt+Ctrl+Click on hypertext in the reference page. However when you 
> are on the Body page and try to run the above scenario the script won't 
> execute.
>
> What am I doing wrong here.
>
> Michael
>
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