RE: Change color of interface

[Lou Martindale]

Thanks to all who responded to my cry for help. I will follow up on all
suggestions, but for a quick fix for short term I decided to try adjusting
the UI brightness and it does make the toolbars, icons, etc. easier to read.
I'll just try to ignore the grayness. Sure makes me wonder what was Adobe
thinking when they choose gray as their cross platform corporate look. 

Lou Martindale 
Technical Writer/Web Master/Marketing Design 
PdMA Corporation - www.pdma.com 
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RE: Change color of interface

[Fred Ridder]

Lou Martindale wrote:

 

 Thanks to all who responded to my cry for help. I will follow up on all
 suggestions, but for a quick fix for short term I decided to try adjusting
 the UI brightness and it does make the toolbars, icons, etc. easier to read.
 I'll just try to ignore the grayness. Sure makes me wonder what was Adobe
 thinking when they choose gray as their cross platform corporate look. 


I'm sure it relates to the fact that Adobe flagship products (which generate 
some 75% of their revenue if I remember the numbers from an Adobe annual 
report) are applications for generating and manipulating graphics and images, 
where you don't want the color of GUI elements to affect the perception of the 
colors of the graphics being worked on. GUI neutrality is necessary for those 
kinds of tools; and since it doesn't really matter for text-oriented apps, 
consistency won out.

-Fred Ridder
  
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ANN: Framescript to disambiguate List Paragraph style

[Yves Barbion]

Hi group

When people author content in Word, they often use the infamous (but
popular) Bullets and Numbering buttons to create bulleted and numbered
lists, respectively. This will put the style named List Paragraph on the
text. When you open the Word file in FrameMaker, you will see that the
bullets and numbering has been preserved. The FrameMaker paratag is still
List Paragraph, but different autonumbering schemes have been used:

•\b\t for the bulleted lists

•n+.\t or n=1.\t for the numbered lists


So Frame used an override to preserve the bullets and numbering. This is
okay as long as you keep the override, but it's a problem:

•If you want you maintain and update this content in FrameMaker

•If you want to convert this content to DITA


In these cases, you may want to remove the overrides, but you will also need
to disambiguate the List Paragraph style as follows:

•IF autonumbering = \b\t, THEN apply the paratag li (or
listitem)

•IF autonumbering = n+.\t OR = n=1.\t, THEN apply the paratag
step



Rick Quatro has now developed a Framescript which can do this. For more
information and ordering:



http://frameautomation.com/about/


Cheers

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Re: Change color of interface

[Whites]

Be that as it may, Adobe's desire for conformity should not deprive  
users of the ability to set their own color schemes. Just a little  
matter of user control that the Adobe mandarins of design seem  
unwilling to surrender.


That said, it would be a welcome addition to the entire Windows  
interface to allow users to assign different color schemes to  
different apps.  I would like to be able to distinguish my FM windows  
from my Visio or Excel or what have you by color instead of all apps  
being presented in a tuberculous ward gray.


So yes, IMHO the CS splash screens are now uniformly pathetically ugly.

Will White
Monrovia CA



Lou Martindale wrote:



Thanks to all who responded to my cry for help. I will follow up on  
all
suggestions, but for a quick fix for short term I decided to try  
adjusting
the UI brightness and it does make the toolbars, icons, etc. easier  
to read.
I'll just try to ignore the grayness. Sure makes me wonder what was  
Adobe
thinking when they choose gray as their cross platform corporate  
look.



I'm sure it relates to the fact that Adobe flagship products (which  
generate some 75% of their revenue if I remember the numbers from an  
Adobe annual report) are applications for generating and  
manipulating graphics and images, where you don't want the color of  
GUI elements to affect the perception of the colors of the graphics  
being worked on. GUI neutrality is necessary for those kinds of  
tools; and since it doesn't really matter for text-oriented apps,  
consistency won out.


-Fred Ridder

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adding a v9.0 license to a 7.1 team

[Lidington, Ellen L]

Hi all,

I manage a group of distributed writers. All of us are on version 7.1.
Our newest writer has submitted a request to have FM installed on her
system and is being told her only option is version 9.0. I am concerned
about us being able to exchange documents because I already have a
writer on 8.0 and the only way we can exchange docs is by saving them as
.mif.

My other concern is helping her learn FM. Since I have never seen v9.0,
I'm not sure how different the interface is.

I would appreciate your thoughts and advice.

Thanks.

Ellen

 

 

 

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Documentation Lead

Ingenix

950 Winter Street, Suite 3800, Waltham, MA 02451

Direct Line: 781-419-8414; Fax: 781-895-9951

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Re: adding a v9.0 license to a 7.1 team

[Art Campbell]

A thread on this just ran its course on the Adobe FM forum:
http://forums.adobe.com/message/2696392#2696392

So long as you don't mind everyone saving as MIF (and saving as the correct
version; there are three now), and don't mind changing Unicode characters
back and forth, and the people on 8 and 9 don't use any features that didn't
exist in 7, and everyone plays be the rules all the time and doesn't make
any mistakes, you should be OK.

Seriously, it's probably past time to consider getting everyone on the same
platform. Otherwise you're going to be spending a fair amount of time doing
mickey-mouse tweaking that you should be able to ignore. But mechanically,
it'll work.

Art

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On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Lidington, Ellen L 
ellen_liding...@ingenix.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 I manage a group of distributed writers. All of us are on version 7.1.
 Our newest writer has submitted a request to have FM installed on her
 system and is being told her only option is version 9.0. I am concerned
 about us being able to exchange documents because I already have a
 writer on 8.0 and the only way we can exchange docs is by saving them as
 .mif.

 My other concern is helping her learn FM. Since I have never seen v9.0,
 I'm not sure how different the interface is.

 I would appreciate your thoughts and advice.

 Thanks.

 Ellen







 Ellen Lidington
 Documentation Lead

 Ingenix

 950 Winter Street, Suite 3800, Waltham, MA 02451

 Direct Line: 781-419-8414; Fax: 781-895-9951

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RE: Garbage characters in FM9

[Alison Craig]

I haven't touched the maker.ini in months and I noticed recently that some of 
my files insist that the fonts Times New Roman and Adobe Minion Pro exist 
within the book files - which is ridiculous as I only EVER use 3 fonts (Arial, 
Courier New and Symbol).

I hope I haven't got garbage in places that I've never noticed. I'll 
have to do some very careful checking. Thanks for the heads up. (This is where 
human proofreading would come in handy but it feels like nobody but me ever 
seems to read what I write :- at least not within the company.)
 
Alison

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Ultrasonix Medical Corporation
Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127
E-mail: alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com
 
 
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Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 7:53 PM
To: FrameUsersDigest
Subject: Re: Garbage characters in FM9


Mike,

Is the problem limited to Minion Pro font? By any chance, have you edited your 
maker.ini file lately and if so, did you open it in anything other than 
Notepad? I learned through frustrating experience that editing maker.ini in 
say, WordPad, can cause garbage characters to start appearing in place of 
certain letters.

Best,
Leigh

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Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 19:24:15 -0500
Subject: Re: Garbage characters in FM9

 I'm finding that sometimes FM inserts garbage characters when inserting 
 text. For example, adding text in a Body para that uses Adobe Minion Pro, 
 I type o and get op; I type s and get so. The Backspace key deletes the 
 following character instead of the previous one, and the left-arrow key 
 moves right.
  
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Change color of interface

[Lou Martindale]

Thanks to all who responded to my cry for help. I will follow up on all
suggestions, but for a quick fix for short term I decided to try adjusting
the UI brightness and it does make the toolbars, icons, etc. easier to read.
I'll just try to ignore the grayness. Sure makes me wonder what was Adobe
thinking when they choose gray as their cross platform corporate look. 

Lou Martindale 
Technical Writer/Web Master/Marketing Design 
PdMA Corporation - www.pdma.com 
lou at pdma.com 
813-621-6463 ext. 126 




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Change color of interface

[Fred Ridder]

Lou Martindale wrote:



> Thanks to all who responded to my cry for help. I will follow up on all
> suggestions, but for a quick fix for short term I decided to try adjusting
> the UI brightness and it does make the toolbars, icons, etc. easier to read.
> I'll just try to ignore the grayness. Sure makes me wonder what was Adobe
> thinking when they choose gray as their cross platform corporate look. 


I'm sure it relates to the fact that Adobe flagship products (which generate 
some 75% of their revenue if I remember the numbers from an Adobe annual 
report) are applications for generating and manipulating graphics and images, 
where you don't want the color of GUI elements to affect the perception of the 
colors of the graphics being worked on. GUI neutrality is necessary for those 
kinds of tools; and since it doesn't really matter for text-oriented apps, 
consistency won out.

-Fred Ridder

ANN: Framescript to disambiguate "List Paragraph" style

[Yves Barbion]

Hi group

When people author content in Word, they often use the infamous (but
popular) "Bullets" and "Numbering" buttons to create bulleted and numbered
lists, respectively. This will put the style named "List Paragraph" on the
text. When you open the Word file in FrameMaker, you will see that the
bullets and numbering has been preserved. The FrameMaker paratag is still
"List Paragraph", but different autonumbering schemes have been used:

?\b\t for the bulleted lists

?.\t or 

Change color of interface

[Whites]

Be that as it may, Adobe's desire for conformity should not deprive  
users of the ability to set their own color schemes. Just a little  
matter of user control that the Adobe mandarins of design seem  
unwilling to surrender.

That said, it would be a welcome addition to the entire Windows  
interface to allow users to assign different color schemes to  
different apps.  I would like to be able to distinguish my FM windows  
from my Visio or Excel or what have you by color instead of all apps  
being presented in a tuberculous ward gray.

So yes, IMHO the CS splash screens are now uniformly pathetically ugly.

Will White
Monrovia CA

>
> Lou Martindale wrote:
>
>
>
>> Thanks to all who responded to my cry for help. I will follow up on  
>> all
>> suggestions, but for a quick fix for short term I decided to try  
>> adjusting
>> the UI brightness and it does make the toolbars, icons, etc. easier  
>> to read.
>> I'll just try to ignore the grayness. Sure makes me wonder what was  
>> Adobe
>> thinking when they choose gray as their cross platform corporate  
>> look.
>
>
> I'm sure it relates to the fact that Adobe flagship products (which  
> generate some 75% of their revenue if I remember the numbers from an  
> Adobe annual report) are applications for generating and  
> manipulating graphics and images, where you don't want the color of  
> GUI elements to affect the perception of the colors of the graphics  
> being worked on. GUI neutrality is necessary for those kinds of  
> tools; and since it doesn't really matter for text-oriented apps,  
> consistency won out.
>
> -Fred Ridder
>   
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Frink: Well, sure, the Frinkiac-7 looks impressive, don't
touch it, but I predict that within 100 years, computers
will be twice as powerful, 10,000 times larger, and so
expensive that only the five richest kings of Europe will
own them.
Apu:   Could it be used for dating?
+++

adding a v9.0 license to a 7.1 team

[Lidington, Ellen L]

Hi all,

I manage a group of distributed writers. All of us are on version 7.1.
Our newest writer has submitted a request to have FM installed on her
system and is being told her only option is version 9.0. I am concerned
about us being able to exchange documents because I already have a
writer on 8.0 and the only way we can exchange docs is by saving them as
.mif.

My other concern is helping her learn FM. Since I have never seen v9.0,
I'm not sure how different the interface is.

I would appreciate your thoughts and advice.

Thanks.

Ellen







Ellen Lidington 
Documentation Lead

Ingenix

950 Winter Street, Suite 3800, Waltham, MA 02451

Direct Line: 781-419-8414; Fax: 781-895-9951

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adding a v9.0 license to a 7.1 team

[Art Campbell]

A thread on this just ran its course on the Adobe FM forum:
http://forums.adobe.com/message/2696392#2696392

So long as you don't mind everyone saving as MIF (and saving as the correct
version; there are three now), and don't mind changing Unicode characters
back and forth, and the people on 8 and 9 don't use any features that didn't
exist in 7, and everyone plays be the rules all the time and doesn't make
any mistakes, you should be OK.

Seriously, it's probably past time to consider getting everyone on the same
platform. Otherwise you're going to be spending a fair amount of time doing
mickey-mouse tweaking that you should be able to ignore. But mechanically,
it'll work.

Art

Art Campbell
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 "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a
redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Lidington, Ellen L <
ellen_lidington at ingenix.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I manage a group of distributed writers. All of us are on version 7.1.
> Our newest writer has submitted a request to have FM installed on her
> system and is being told her only option is version 9.0. I am concerned
> about us being able to exchange documents because I already have a
> writer on 8.0 and the only way we can exchange docs is by saving them as
> .mif.
>
> My other concern is helping her learn FM. Since I have never seen v9.0,
> I'm not sure how different the interface is.
>
> I would appreciate your thoughts and advice.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Ellen
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ellen Lidington
> Documentation Lead
>
> Ingenix
>
> 950 Winter Street, Suite 3800, Waltham, MA 02451
>
> Direct Line: 781-419-8414; Fax: 781-895-9951
>
> www.ingenix.com
>
>
>
>
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Garbage characters in FM9

[Alison Craig]

I haven't touched the maker.ini in months and I noticed recently that some of 
my files insist that the fonts Times New Roman and Adobe Minion Pro exist 
within the book files - which is ridiculous as I only EVER use 3 fonts (Arial, 
Courier New and Symbol).

I hope I haven't got garbage in places that I've never noticed. I'll 
have to do some very careful checking. Thanks for the heads up. (This is where 
human proofreading would come in handy but it feels like nobody but me ever 
seems to read what I write :- at least not within the company.)

Alison

Alison Craig, Technical Writer
Ultrasonix Medical Corporation
Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127
E-mail: alison.craig at ultrasonix.com


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Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 7:53 PM
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Subject: Re: Garbage characters in FM9


Mike,

Is the problem limited to Minion Pro font? By any chance, have you edited your 
maker.ini file lately and if so, did you open it in anything other than 
Notepad? I learned through frustrating experience that editing maker.ini in 
say, WordPad, can cause garbage characters to start appearing in place of 
certain letters.

Best,
Leigh

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Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 19:24:15 -0500
Subject: Re: Garbage characters in FM9

> I'm finding that sometimes FM inserts garbage characters when inserting 
> text. For example, adding text in a Body para that uses Adobe Minion Pro, 
> I type o and get op; I type s and get so. The Backspace key deletes the 
> following character instead of the previous one, and the left-arrow key 
> moves right.

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