Re: Keyboard shortcuts to pod elements

2010-07-01 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
I'm in the same boat. I used to use AutoIt for repetitive tasks, and 
these pods make things difficult.


However, if anyone is interested, AutoIt comes with a utility for 
displaying window info. It's called AutoIt Window Info. It comes with 
AutoIt, which is free. If anyone tries it, let me know if it helps.


Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133


On 30-Jun-10 11:31 PM, Carol J. Elkins wrote:
I use a programmable keyboard to whiz through repetitive tasks (some 
of you may use a macro recorder to accomplish the same thing). Prior 
to the new Pod interface in Frame 9, I had no trouble using keystrokes 
to navigate to specific fields in a window. Frame made this easy by 
assigning Alt-code shortcuts. The new pod interface leaves me 
frustrated and helpless. For example, in the Cross-reference Pod, I 
can find no way to navigate to the Paragraph Tag or Paragraph Number 
field so that I can select something from either list. The only fields 
that have Alt-code shortcuts are Document, Go to Source, Format, Edit 
Format, and Convert to Text.


Do any of you who routinely work deep in Frame's bowels know if there 
is a list of field-specific keyboard shortcuts? (Note that I am not 
asking about ESC-sequence shortcuts as were recently discussed on this 
list.) I hate this loss in functionality by upgrading to a newer 
product.


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Imported Word docs - table heading row of long tables is not repeated for further pages of the table

2010-07-01 Thread Avraham Makeler
Hi all,

  RE:  Imported Word docs - table heading row of long tables is not repeated
for further pages of the table

Using: FM 7.2.
Importing from: Word 2003

I found that when I import documents from Word 2003 that contain long
tables, the table heading row is not repeated for further pages of the same
table.

I expected there to be a simple Properties setting controlling this, but I
could not find one. I tried opening the FM documents in FM 8 to see if such
a Properties setting exists there, and still no luck.

So I ran a search for a solution, and I found the *The Word-to-Frame table
macro*, by a certain *Stephen Sealy*, at:
http://www.techknowledgecorp.com/public/word2frame.pdf

You save your FM document as a MIF file, and then load it into Word's VBA
environment (yes...Word - we just want to use the Word API's powerful string
processing facilities), and run Stephen's VBA program.

Ok, great - but it didn't work. So I debugged it a bit, and found that it
used a search string that was not quite accurate, so the searches did not
work. Ok - so I fixed that, and ran it again. Then I found that it started
to update the MIF by adding header rows, but then it hung the PC.

OK - so it probably works, but maybe it was written for a different version
of FM and/or MIF.
So is there a different solution for this?
Or does somebody have a debugged version of this VBA program? (For FM 7.2.)

TIA

  - avi


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Re: Imported Word docs - table heading row of long tables is not repeated for further pages of the table

2010-07-01 Thread Avraham Makeler
Just remembered FM9 exists. Does anybody know if FM9 has a Table Properties
setting for this? (So I could install an evaluation edition for now (does it
save...?) and save my FM file backwards to FM8 to FM7.)

  - avi



On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Avraham Makeler amake...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

   RE:  Imported Word docs - table heading row of long tables is not
 repeated for further pages of the table

 Using: FM 7.2.
 Importing from: Word 2003

 I found that when I import documents from Word 2003 that contain long
 tables, the table heading row is not repeated for further pages of the same
 table.

 I expected there to be a simple Properties setting controlling this, but I
 could not find one. I tried opening the FM documents in FM 8 to see if such
 a Properties setting exists there, and still no luck.

 So I ran a search for a solution, and I found the *The Word-to-Frame
 table macro*, by a certain *Stephen Sealy*, at:
 http://www.techknowledgecorp.com/public/word2frame.pdf

 You save your FM document as a MIF file, and then load it into Word's VBA
 environment (yes...Word - we just want to use the Word API's powerful string
 processing facilities), and run Stephen's VBA program.

 Ok, great - but it didn't work. So I debugged it a bit, and found that it
 used a search string that was not quite accurate, so the searches did not
 work. Ok - so I fixed that, and ran it again. Then I found that it started
 to update the MIF by adding header rows, but then it hung the PC.

 OK - so it probably works, but maybe it was written for a different version
 of FM and/or MIF.
 So is there a different solution for this?
 Or does somebody have a debugged version of this VBA program? (For FM 7.2.)

 TIA

   - avi


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Re: Imported Word docs - table heading row of long tables is not repeated for further pages of the table

2010-07-01 Thread Baruch Brodersen
Hi Avi,
Rick Quattro's Table Cleaner plugin makes short work of this. Simply select
the row or rows you want to repeat, and choose Table  Convert Select Rows 
Body to heading Rows.
Short of that, you might try a) applying a table format to the imported
table, and b) add a header row (Table  Add Rows or Columns  Add a Header a
Header Row), c) copy and paste the original cells into that, then delete the
original row.

-- 
B a r u c h   B r o d e r s e n
T e c h n i t e x t   D o c u m e n t a t i o n
8 7 7  7 2 1  6 9 8 8


  On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Avraham Makeler amake...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Hi all,
 
RE:  Imported Word docs - table heading row of long tables is not
  repeated for further pages of the table
 
  Using: FM 7.2.
  Importing from: Word 2003



  snip/



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Re: Imported Word docs - table heading row of long tables is not repeated for further pages of the table

2010-07-01 Thread Yves Barbion
Indeed, Rick's TableCleaner plug-in is what you need. You can even batch
convert body rows to heading rows and then select the option to only convert
rows in tables without existing heading rows:

http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/tablecleaner/index.htm


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On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Baruch Brodersen bar...@technitext.comwrote:

 Hi Avi,
 Rick Quattro's Table Cleaner plugin makes short work of this. Simply select
 the row or rows you want to repeat, and choose Table  Convert Select Rows
 
 Body to heading Rows.
 Short of that, you might try a) applying a table format to the imported
 table, and b) add a header row (Table  Add Rows or Columns  Add a Header
 a
 Header Row), c) copy and paste the original cells into that, then delete
 the
 original row.

 --
 B a r u c h   B r o d e r s e n
 T e c h n i t e x t   D o c u m e n t a t i o n
 8 7 7  7 2 1  6 9 8 8


   On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Avraham Makeler amake...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Hi all,
  
 RE:  Imported Word docs - table heading row of long tables is not
   repeated for further pages of the table
  
   Using: FM 7.2.
   Importing from: Word 2003
 


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Re: Imported Word docs - table heading row of long tables is not repeated for further pages of the table

2010-07-01 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
You just have to add a header row (TableAdd Rows or ColumnsAdd 1 Row 
To Heading).


Unlike Word, you can't tell Frame that a row is (or is not) a heading 
row. If you want a heading row, you have to add one. If you don't want a 
heading row, you have to delete it.


Also, when a table is imported from Word, it may have custom ruling 
which you may not want. Select the entire table, then select 
TableCustom Ruling and ShadingFrom Table (to all sides of cell)Apply.


Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133


On 01-Jul-10 2:02 PM, Avraham Makeler wrote:

Hi all,

   RE:  Imported Word docs - table heading row of long tables is not repeated
for further pages of the table

Using: FM 7.2.
Importing from: Word 2003

I found that when I import documents from Word 2003 that contain long
tables, the table heading row is not repeated for further pages of the same
table.

I expected there to be a simple Properties setting controlling this, but I
could not find one. I tried opening the FM documents in FM 8 to see if such
a Properties setting exists there, and still no luck.

So I ran a search for a solution, and I found the *The Word-to-Frame table
macro*, by a certain *Stephen Sealy*, at:
 http://www.techknowledgecorp.com/public/word2frame.pdf

You save your FM document as a MIF file, and then load it into Word's VBA
environment (yes...Word - we just want to use the Word API's powerful string
processing facilities), and run Stephen's VBA program.

Ok, great - but it didn't work. So I debugged it a bit, and found that it
used a search string that was not quite accurate, so the searches did not
work. Ok - so I fixed that, and ran it again. Then I found that it started
to update the MIF by adding header rows, but then it hung the PC.

OK - so it probably works, but maybe it was written for a different version
of FM and/or MIF.
So is there a different solution for this?
Or does somebody have a debugged version of this VBA program? (For FM 7.2.)

TIA

   - avi


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RE: Imported Word docs - table heading row of long tables is notrepeated for further pages of the table

2010-07-01 Thread Pinkham, Jim
Going back to OP's original source, the following document has also
proven quite useful to us over the years:
http://www.techknowledgecorp.com/public/word2frame.pdf

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shmuel
Wolfson
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 8:15 AM
To: Avraham Makeler; Framers
Subject: Re: Imported Word docs - table heading row of long tables is
notrepeated for further pages of the table

You just have to add a header row (TableAdd Rows or ColumnsAdd 1 Row
To Heading).

Unlike Word, you can't tell Frame that a row is (or is not) a heading
row. If you want a heading row, you have to add one. If you don't want a
heading row, you have to delete it.

Also, when a table is imported from Word, it may have custom ruling
which you may not want. Select the entire table, then select 
TableCustom Ruling and ShadingFrom Table (to all sides of cell)Apply.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133


On 01-Jul-10 2:02 PM, Avraham Makeler wrote:
 Hi all,

RE:  Imported Word docs - table heading row of long tables is not
repeated
 for further pages of the table

 Using: FM 7.2.
 Importing from: Word 2003

 I found that when I import documents from Word 2003 that contain long
 tables, the table heading row is not repeated for further pages of the
same
 table.

 I expected there to be a simple Properties setting controlling this,
but I
 could not find one. I tried opening the FM documents in FM 8 to see if
such
 a Properties setting exists there, and still no luck.

 So I ran a search for a solution, and I found the *The Word-to-Frame
table
 macro*, by a certain *Stephen Sealy*, at:
  http://www.techknowledgecorp.com/public/word2frame.pdf

 You save your FM document as a MIF file, and then load it into Word's
VBA
 environment (yes...Word - we just want to use the Word API's powerful
string
 processing facilities), and run Stephen's VBA program.

 Ok, great - but it didn't work. So I debugged it a bit, and found that
it
 used a search string that was not quite accurate, so the searches did
not
 work. Ok - so I fixed that, and ran it again. Then I found that it
started
 to update the MIF by adding header rows, but then it hung the PC.

 OK - so it probably works, but maybe it was written for a different
version
 of FM and/or MIF.
 So is there a different solution for this?
 Or does somebody have a debugged version of this VBA program? (For FM
7.2.)

 TIA

- avi


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RE: Extracting embedded graphics from Word

2010-07-01 Thread Richard Melanson
Does anyone remember Microsoft Photo Editor. Trying to get photos,
screen captures, any graphic out of Word using everything I have learned
over 16 years being a technical writer never worked. One day I happened
to be on one of the old computers at my home and Microsoft Photo Editor
was installed, so I put the Word file on the old computer, opened it,
copied a graphic from it into Photo Editor by selecting Edit then Past
as New Image in Photo Editor and VOILA, I could save as .BMP, .JPG, etc
with NO QUALITY LOSS. I use the method to this day. Hope everyone finds
this helpful.
Rick

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Christenson
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 10:36 PM
To: Pinkham, Jim
Cc: Frame Users
Subject: Re: Extracting embedded graphics from Word

Hi all -

I just found out that client is going to make the writers recapture all
the screens so I'm off the hook. Thanks for all the helpful info!

Pat

On Jun 30, 2010, at 1:34 PM, Pinkham, Jim wrote:

 It's always a last-ditch optioin, but it risks a sometimes harsh cost 
 in compromised image quality.

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 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Owen, Clint
 Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 3:22 PM
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 Cc: Pat Christenson
 Subject: RE: Extracting embedded graphics from Word

 Pat,

 The best way I have found to do this is to print the Word document to 
 PDF, then use Acrobat to extract the applicable pages and crop away 
 everything except the graphics you need. Then the PDF becomes your 
 source file for the graphics. This works no matter what the original 
 graphic format was or how they got into Word.

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 Hi -

 I have approximately 2000 pages to convert from Word to Frame. The 
 graphics are embedded but the client wants them imported by reference 
 in Frame. I tried extracting them from Word by saving a file as HTML

 but the graphics became blurry and unusable. They look fine when I 
 open the Word file in Frame.

 Is there a way to extract graphics from Word without losing quality?
 Or a utility that converts embedded graphics in Frame into imported- 
 by-reference?

 Thanks for any help.

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Re: Extracting embedded graphics from Word

2010-07-01 Thread David Creamer
 I have approximately 2000 pages to convert from Word to Frame. The
 graphics are embedded but the client wants them imported by reference
 in Frame. I tried extracting them from Word by saving a file as
 HTML but the graphics became blurry and unusable. They look fine when
 I open the Word file in Frame.
 
 Is there a way to extract graphics from Word without losing quality?

If the file is Word 2007 (and presumably 2010), you can make a copy of the
file, change the extension from .docx to .zip.

Uncompress the zip and the graphics (Word optimized and originals) will all
be in a media folder. (This works for PowerPoint 2007 too.)

I have not tried taking a Word 2003 file and saving it as 2007 to process
this way, so I don't know if it will work or not.

David Creamer
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InCopy, FrameMaker, Dreamweaver, Premiere, GoLive, and PageMaker
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Re: Extracting embedded graphics from Word

2010-07-01 Thread Alan T Litchfield

Daid,

You're a gem :)

That is going to save me s much time in future.

Oh, and I opened an old document (pre-2003 in Word 97 format), saved  
it in docx and the images were preserved in accordance with your  
process below. :D


Alan

On 2/07/2010, at 8:53 AM, David Creamer wrote:

If the file is Word 2007 (and presumably 2010), you can make a copy  
of the

file, change the extension from .docx to .zip.

Uncompress the zip and the graphics (Word optimized and originals)  
will all

be in a media folder. (This works for PowerPoint 2007 too.)

I have not tried taking a Word 2003 file and saving it as 2007 to  
process

this way, so I don't know if it will work or not.



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RE: Extracting embedded graphics from Word

2010-07-01 Thread Richard Melanson
Nice stuff, thanks a million for sharing !!!
Rick 

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Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 5:37 PM
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Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Extracting embedded graphics from Word

Daid,

You're a gem :)

That is going to save me s much time in future.

Oh, and I opened an old document (pre-2003 in Word 97 format), saved it
in docx and the images were preserved in accordance with your process
below. :D

Alan

On 2/07/2010, at 8:53 AM, David Creamer wrote:

 If the file is Word 2007 (and presumably 2010), you can make a copy of

 the file, change the extension from .docx to .zip.

 Uncompress the zip and the graphics (Word optimized and originals) 
 will all be in a media folder. (This works for PowerPoint 2007 too.)

 I have not tried taking a Word 2003 file and saving it as 2007 to 
 process this way, so I don't know if it will work or not.


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New Zealand
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Windows 7 and Frame 7.1

2010-07-01 Thread Paul Kent
Looking at doing a (forced) computer upgrade and I seem to recall some threads 
concerning this subject. 


Am I correct in remembering that Frame 9 is 64-bit compliant, but Frame 7.1 is 
not? 


Thanks 




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Re: Windows 7 and Frame 7.1

2010-07-01 Thread Avraham Makeler
I understand that MS offers a free XP emulator that you can download and
 install. This helps to run older apps on Win7 64-bit.

avraham



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 FrameMaker 9 is a 32-bit program that will properly install and run under
 Windows Vista
 and Windows 7 64-bit versions.

 FrameMaker 7.1 is also a 32-bit program. Adobe does not officially support
 it under
 Windows Vista or Windows 7, either 32-bit or 64-bit version. You may coerce
 it to install
 and run in those environments, but YMMV and you are on your own for any
 support.

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Re: Imported Word docs - table heading row of long tables is not repeated for further pages of the table

2010-07-01 Thread Avraham Makeler
 Rick Quattro's Table Cleaner plugin

Thought I would sleep on this before responding... well here goes...

$60 for just o-n-e utility...? $60 is the price of many complete
applications -- ok not an MS app or an Adobe app, but an app. I have written
a number of complete Word VBA programs and until now it never occured to me
to ask more than about $20. Oh well ... Supply  Demand... if it sells... it
sells...

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On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Baruch Brodersen bar...@technitext.comwrote:

 Hi Avi,
 Rick Quattro's Table Cleaner plugin makes short work of this. Simply select
 the row or rows you want to repeat, and choose Table  Convert Select Rows 
 Body to heading Rows.
 Short of that, you might try a) applying a table format to the imported
 table, and b) add a header row (Table  Add Rows or Columns  Add a Header a
 Header Row), c) copy and paste the original cells into that, then delete the
 original row.

 --
 B a r u c h   B r o d e r s e n
 T e c h n i t e x t   D o c u m e n t a t i o n
 8 7 7  7 2 1  6 9 8 8


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 wrote:

  Hi all,
 
RE:  Imported Word docs - table heading row of long tables is not
  repeated for further pages of the table
 
  Using: FM 7.2.
  Importing from: Word 2003



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Imported Word docs - table heading row of long tables is not repeated for further pages of the table

2010-07-01 Thread Avraham Makeler
Hi all,

  RE:  Imported Word docs - table heading row of long tables is not repeated
for further pages of the table

Using: FM 7.2.
Importing from: Word 2003

I found that when I import documents from Word 2003 that contain long
tables, the table heading row is not repeated for further pages of the same
table.

I expected there to be a simple Properties setting controlling this, but I
could not find one. I tried opening the FM documents in FM 8 to see if such
a Properties setting exists there, and still no luck.

So I ran a search for a solution, and I found the *"The Word-to-Frame table
macro"*, by a certain *Stephen Sealy*, at:
http://www.techknowledgecorp.com/public/word2frame.pdf

You save your FM document as a MIF file, and then load it into Word's VBA
environment (yes...Word - we just want to use the Word API's powerful string
processing facilities), and run Stephen's VBA program.

Ok, great - but it didn't work. So I debugged it a bit, and found that it
used a search string that was not quite accurate, so the searches did not
work. Ok - so I fixed that, and ran it again. Then I found that it started
to update the MIF by adding header rows, but then it hung the PC.

OK - so it probably works, but maybe it was written for a different version
of FM and/or MIF.
So is there a different solution for this?
Or does somebody have a debugged version of this VBA program? (For FM 7.2.)

TIA

  - avi


"Mercy on all, coz everyone's fighting some sort of battle"


Imported Word docs - table heading row of long tables is not repeated for further pages of the table

2010-07-01 Thread Avraham Makeler
Just remembered FM9 exists. Does anybody know if FM9 has a Table Properties
setting for this? (So I could install an evaluation edition for now (does it
save...?) and save my FM file backwards to FM8 to FM7.)

  - avi



On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Avraham Makeler  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>   RE:  Imported Word docs - table heading row of long tables is not
> repeated for further pages of the table
>
> Using: FM 7.2.
> Importing from: Word 2003
>
> I found that when I import documents from Word 2003 that contain long
> tables, the table heading row is not repeated for further pages of the same
> table.
>
> I expected there to be a simple Properties setting controlling this, but I
> could not find one. I tried opening the FM documents in FM 8 to see if such
> a Properties setting exists there, and still no luck.
>
> So I ran a search for a solution, and I found the *"The Word-to-Frame
> table macro"*, by a certain *Stephen Sealy*, at:
> http://www.techknowledgecorp.com/public/word2frame.pdf
>
> You save your FM document as a MIF file, and then load it into Word's VBA
> environment (yes...Word - we just want to use the Word API's powerful string
> processing facilities), and run Stephen's VBA program.
>
> Ok, great - but it didn't work. So I debugged it a bit, and found that it
> used a search string that was not quite accurate, so the searches did not
> work. Ok - so I fixed that, and ran it again. Then I found that it started
> to update the MIF by adding header rows, but then it hung the PC.
>
> OK - so it probably works, but maybe it was written for a different version
> of FM and/or MIF.
> So is there a different solution for this?
> Or does somebody have a debugged version of this VBA program? (For FM 7.2.)
>
> TIA
>
>   - avi
>
>
> "Mercy on all, coz everyone's fighting some sort of battle"
>



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Imported Word docs - table heading row of long tables is not repeated for further pages of the table

2010-07-01 Thread Baruch Brodersen
Hi Avi,
Rick Quattro's Table Cleaner plugin makes short work of this. Simply select
the row or rows you want to repeat, and choose Table > Convert Select Rows >
Body to heading Rows.
Short of that, you might try a) applying a table format to the imported
table, and b) add a header row (Table > Add Rows or Columns > Add a Header a
Header Row), c) copy and paste the original cells into that, then delete the
original row.

-- 
B a r u c h   B r o d e r s e n
T e c h n i t e x t   D o c u m e n t a t i o n
8 7 7  7 2 1  6 9 8 8


>  On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Avraham Makeler 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> >   RE:  Imported Word docs - table heading row of long tables is not
> > repeated for further pages of the table
> >
> > Using: FM 7.2.
> > Importing from: Word 2003
>


>  
>
>
>


Imported Word docs - table heading row of long tables is not repeated for further pages of the table

2010-07-01 Thread Yves Barbion
Indeed, Rick's TableCleaner plug-in is what you need. You can even batch
convert body rows to heading rows and then select the option to only convert
rows in tables without existing heading rows:

http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/tablecleaner/index.htm


-- 
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On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Baruch Brodersen wrote:

> Hi Avi,
> Rick Quattro's Table Cleaner plugin makes short work of this. Simply select
> the row or rows you want to repeat, and choose Table > Convert Select Rows
> >
> Body to heading Rows.
> Short of that, you might try a) applying a table format to the imported
> table, and b) add a header row (Table > Add Rows or Columns > Add a Header
> a
> Header Row), c) copy and paste the original cells into that, then delete
> the
> original row.
>
> --
> B a r u c h   B r o d e r s e n
> T e c h n i t e x t   D o c u m e n t a t i o n
> 8 7 7  7 2 1  6 9 8 8
>
>
> >  On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Avraham Makeler 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > >   RE:  Imported Word docs - table heading row of long tables is not
> > > repeated for further pages of the table
> > >
> > > Using: FM 7.2.
> > > Importing from: Word 2003
> >
>
>
> >  
> >
> >
> >
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Imported Word docs - table heading row of long tables is not repeated for further pages of the table

2010-07-01 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
You just have to add a header row (Table>Add Rows or Columns>Add 1 Row 
To Heading).

Unlike Word, you can't tell Frame that a row is (or is not) a heading 
row. If you want a heading row, you have to add one. If you don't want a 
heading row, you have to delete it.

Also, when a table is imported from Word, it may have custom ruling 
which you may not want. Select the entire table, then select 
Table>Custom Ruling and Shading>From Table (to all sides of cell)>Apply.

Regards,
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Technical Writer
052-763-7133


On 01-Jul-10 2:02 PM, Avraham Makeler wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>RE:  Imported Word docs - table heading row of long tables is not repeated
> for further pages of the table
>
> Using: FM 7.2.
> Importing from: Word 2003
>
> I found that when I import documents from Word 2003 that contain long
> tables, the table heading row is not repeated for further pages of the same
> table.
>
> I expected there to be a simple Properties setting controlling this, but I
> could not find one. I tried opening the FM documents in FM 8 to see if such
> a Properties setting exists there, and still no luck.
>
> So I ran a search for a solution, and I found the *"The Word-to-Frame table
> macro"*, by a certain *Stephen Sealy*, at:
>  http://www.techknowledgecorp.com/public/word2frame.pdf
>
> You save your FM document as a MIF file, and then load it into Word's VBA
> environment (yes...Word - we just want to use the Word API's powerful string
> processing facilities), and run Stephen's VBA program.
>
> Ok, great - but it didn't work. So I debugged it a bit, and found that it
> used a search string that was not quite accurate, so the searches did not
> work. Ok - so I fixed that, and ran it again. Then I found that it started
> to update the MIF by adding header rows, but then it hung the PC.
>
> OK - so it probably works, but maybe it was written for a different version
> of FM and/or MIF.
> So is there a different solution for this?
> Or does somebody have a debugged version of this VBA program? (For FM 7.2.)
>
> TIA
>
>- avi
>
>
> "Mercy on all, coz everyone's fighting some sort of battle"
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Imported Word docs - table heading row of long tables is notrepeated for further pages of the table

2010-07-01 Thread Pinkham, Jim
Going back to OP's original source, the following document has also
proven quite useful to us over the years:
http://www.techknowledgecorp.com/public/word2frame.pdf

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shmuel
Wolfson
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 8:15 AM
To: Avraham Makeler; Framers
Subject: Re: Imported Word docs - table heading row of long tables is
notrepeated for further pages of the table

You just have to add a header row (Table>Add Rows or Columns>Add 1 Row
To Heading).

Unlike Word, you can't tell Frame that a row is (or is not) a heading
row. If you want a heading row, you have to add one. If you don't want a
heading row, you have to delete it.

Also, when a table is imported from Word, it may have custom ruling
which you may not want. Select the entire table, then select 
Table>Custom Ruling and Shading>From Table (to all sides of cell)>Apply.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133


On 01-Jul-10 2:02 PM, Avraham Makeler wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>RE:  Imported Word docs - table heading row of long tables is not
repeated
> for further pages of the table
>
> Using: FM 7.2.
> Importing from: Word 2003
>
> I found that when I import documents from Word 2003 that contain long
> tables, the table heading row is not repeated for further pages of the
same
> table.
>
> I expected there to be a simple Properties setting controlling this,
but I
> could not find one. I tried opening the FM documents in FM 8 to see if
such
> a Properties setting exists there, and still no luck.
>
> So I ran a search for a solution, and I found the *"The Word-to-Frame
table
> macro"*, by a certain *Stephen Sealy*, at:
>  http://www.techknowledgecorp.com/public/word2frame.pdf
>
> You save your FM document as a MIF file, and then load it into Word's
VBA
> environment (yes...Word - we just want to use the Word API's powerful
string
> processing facilities), and run Stephen's VBA program.
>
> Ok, great - but it didn't work. So I debugged it a bit, and found that
it
> used a search string that was not quite accurate, so the searches did
not
> work. Ok - so I fixed that, and ran it again. Then I found that it
started
> to update the MIF by adding header rows, but then it hung the PC.
>
> OK - so it probably works, but maybe it was written for a different
version
> of FM and/or MIF.
> So is there a different solution for this?
> Or does somebody have a debugged version of this VBA program? (For FM
7.2.)
>
> TIA
>
>- avi
>
>
> "Mercy on all, coz everyone's fighting some sort of battle"
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Extracting embedded graphics from Word

2010-07-01 Thread Richard Melanson
Does anyone remember Microsoft Photo Editor. Trying to get photos,
screen captures, any graphic out of Word using everything I have learned
over 16 years being a technical writer never worked. One day I happened
to be on one of the old computers at my home and Microsoft Photo Editor
was installed, so I put the Word file on the old computer, opened it,
copied a graphic from it into Photo Editor by selecting Edit then Past
as New Image in Photo Editor and VOILA, I could save as .BMP, .JPG, etc
with NO QUALITY LOSS. I use the method to this day. Hope everyone finds
this helpful.
Rick

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Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 10:36 PM
To: Pinkham, Jim
Cc: Frame Users
Subject: Re: Extracting embedded graphics from Word

Hi all -

I just found out that client is going to make the writers recapture all
the screens so I'm off the hook. Thanks for all the helpful info!

Pat

On Jun 30, 2010, at 1:34 PM, Pinkham, Jim wrote:

> It's always a last-ditch optioin, but it risks a sometimes harsh cost 
> in compromised image quality.
>
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> Pat,
>
> The best way I have found to do this is to print the Word document to 
> PDF, then use Acrobat to extract the applicable pages and crop away 
> everything except the graphics you need. Then the PDF becomes your 
> source file for the graphics. This works no matter what the original 
> graphic format was or how they got into Word.
>
> Clint
>
>
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> in Frame. I tried "extracting" them from Word by saving a file as HTML

> but the graphics became blurry and unusable. They look fine when I 
> open the Word file in Frame.
>
> Is there a way to extract graphics from Word without losing quality?
> Or a utility that converts embedded graphics in Frame into imported- 
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>
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Extracting embedded graphics from Word

2010-07-01 Thread David Creamer
> I have approximately 2000 pages to convert from Word to Frame. The
> graphics are embedded but the client wants them imported by reference
> in Frame. I tried "extracting" them from Word by saving a file as
> HTML but the graphics became blurry and unusable. They look fine when
> I open the Word file in Frame.
> 
> Is there a way to extract graphics from Word without losing quality?

If the file is Word 2007 (and presumably 2010), you can make a copy of the
file, change the extension from .docx to .zip.

Uncompress the zip and the graphics (Word optimized and originals) will all
be in a media folder. (This works for PowerPoint 2007 too.)

I have not tried taking a Word 2003 file and saving it as 2007 to process
this way, so I don't know if it will work or not.

David Creamer
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InCopy, FrameMaker, Dreamweaver, Premiere, GoLive, and PageMaker
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Extracting embedded graphics from Word

2010-07-01 Thread Richard Melanson
Nice stuff, thanks a million for sharing !!!
Rick 

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Litchfield
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 5:37 PM
To: David Creamer
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Extracting embedded graphics from Word

Daid,

You're a gem :)

That is going to save me s much time in future.

Oh, and I opened an old document (pre-2003 in Word 97 format), saved it
in docx and the images were preserved in accordance with your process
below. :D

Alan

On 2/07/2010, at 8:53 AM, David Creamer wrote:

> If the file is Word 2007 (and presumably 2010), you can make a copy of

> the file, change the extension from .docx to .zip.
>
> Uncompress the zip and the graphics (Word optimized and originals) 
> will all be in a media folder. (This works for PowerPoint 2007 too.)
>
> I have not tried taking a Word 2003 file and saving it as 2007 to 
> process this way, so I don't know if it will work or not.
>

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Windows 7 and Frame 7.1

2010-07-01 Thread Dov Isaacs
FrameMaker 9 is a 32-bit program that will properly install and run under 
Windows Vista
and Windows 7 64-bit versions.

FrameMaker 7.1 is also a 32-bit program. Adobe does not officially support it 
under
Windows Vista or Windows 7, either 32-bit or 64-bit version. You may coerce it 
to install
and run in those environments, but YMMV and you are on your own for any support.

- Dov

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> Paul Kent
> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 7:36 PM
> To: Framers; Framers
> Subject: Windows 7 and Frame 7.1
> 
> Looking at doing a (forced) computer upgrade and I seem to recall some 
> threads concerning this
> subject.
> 
> Am I correct in remembering that Frame 9 is 64-bit compliant, but Frame 7.1 
> is not?
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
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Save FrameMaker 8.0 files to 6.0

2010-07-01 Thread Clara Hall
I am doing some freelance work in FrameMaker.  One of the requirements is
that the work be done in FM 6.0.  I am currently working with FM 8.0.  Is
there a way to develop in 8.0 and then somehow save the files to be
compatible to 6.0. Maybe saving them as a mif files?  Would that work?



Also, does anyone know where I could get a copy of FM 6.0?

Thank you in advance for your help.



Clara Hall

Technical Documentation Manager

Aerospace Technologies Group, Inc.



Extracting embedded graphics from Word

2010-07-01 Thread Tim J. Slager
The newer MSO Picture Manager also saves files with no quality loss. It is also 
handy for batch exporting to other formats or sizes.

tims

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Richard Melanson
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 9:25 AM
To: Pat Christenson; Pinkham, Jim
Cc: Frame Users
Subject: RE: Extracting embedded graphics from Word

Does anyone remember Microsoft Photo Editor. Trying to get photos,
screen captures, any graphic out of Word using everything I have learned
over 16 years being a technical writer never worked. One day I happened
to be on one of the old computers at my home and Microsoft Photo Editor
was installed, so I put the Word file on the old computer, opened it,
copied a graphic from it into Photo Editor by selecting Edit then Past
as New Image in Photo Editor and VOILA, I could save as .BMP, .JPG, etc
with NO QUALITY LOSS. I use the method to this day. Hope everyone finds
this helpful.
Rick

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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Pat
Christenson
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 10:36 PM
To: Pinkham, Jim
Cc: Frame Users
Subject: Re: Extracting embedded graphics from Word

Hi all -

I just found out that client is going to make the writers recapture all
the screens so I'm off the hook. Thanks for all the helpful info!

Pat

On Jun 30, 2010, at 1:34 PM, Pinkham, Jim wrote:

> It's always a last-ditch optioin, but it risks a sometimes harsh cost 
> in compromised image quality.
>
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> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 3:22 PM
> To: Frame Users
> Cc: Pat Christenson
> Subject: RE: Extracting embedded graphics from Word
>
> Pat,
>
> The best way I have found to do this is to print the Word document to 
> PDF, then use Acrobat to extract the applicable pages and crop away 
> everything except the graphics you need. Then the PDF becomes your 
> source file for the graphics. This works no matter what the original 
> graphic format was or how they got into Word.
>
> Clint
>
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> Christenson
> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 1:09 PM
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> Subject: Extracting embedded graphics from Word
>
> Hi -
>
> I have approximately 2000 pages to convert from Word to Frame. The 
> graphics are embedded but the client wants them imported by reference 
> in Frame. I tried "extracting" them from Word by saving a file as HTML

> but the graphics became blurry and unusable. They look fine when I 
> open the Word file in Frame.
>
> Is there a way to extract graphics from Word without losing quality?
> Or a utility that converts embedded graphics in Frame into imported- 
> by-reference?
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
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Extracting embedded graphics from Word

2010-07-01 Thread Gaghan, Steven P.
Hi All,
Another way to get the graphics involves using Word 2007.

1.   Create a copy of the file saving it using the .docx extension.

2.   Go to the folder where you saved the docx.

3.   Change the file extension from .docx to .zip. For example, 
"sample.docx" would become "sample.zip". A zip file is created.

4.   Extract the contents of the zip file.

5.   Open the extracted folder, and go to word > media. All of the images 
used in the document are in the "media" folder in their original file format. 
The original names of the images are lost, but you have all of the images in 
one folder.

I hope that helps!

Thanks,

Steven P. Gaghan




Keyboard shortcuts to pod elements

2010-07-01 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
I'm in the same boat. I used to use AutoIt for repetitive tasks, and 
these pods make things difficult.

However, if anyone is interested, AutoIt comes with a utility for 
displaying window info. It's called AutoIt Window Info. It comes with 
AutoIt, which is free. If anyone tries it, let me know if it helps.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133


On 30-Jun-10 11:31 PM, Carol J. Elkins wrote:
> I use a programmable keyboard to whiz through repetitive tasks (some 
> of you may use a macro recorder to accomplish the same thing). Prior 
> to the new Pod interface in Frame 9, I had no trouble using keystrokes 
> to navigate to specific fields in a window. Frame made this easy by 
> assigning Alt-code shortcuts. The new pod interface leaves me 
> frustrated and helpless. For example, in the Cross-reference Pod, I 
> can find no way to navigate to the Paragraph Tag or Paragraph Number 
> field so that I can select something from either list. The only fields 
> that have Alt-code shortcuts are Document, Go to Source, Format, Edit 
> Format, and Convert to Text.
>
> Do any of you who routinely work deep in Frame's bowels know if there 
> is a list of field-specific keyboard shortcuts? (Note that I am not 
> asking about ESC-sequence shortcuts as were recently discussed on this 
> list.) I hate this loss in functionality by "upgrading" to a newer 
> product.
>
> Carol
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