Re: Cross References not working in PDF
Robert, You wrote: Our standard documentation is created in Unstructured FrameMaker 9 and printed to Adobe PDF. We are noticing that some of the cross references in the PDF file are not working. These could be cross references to figures, tables, or other sections within the manual. When we look at the source FrameMaker files there doesn't seem to be an issue; we can CTRL+ALT click on the cross reference and it takes us to the marker without issue. ... A common reason for random bad links/bookmarks is having Create Named Destinations for All Paragraphs turned off in FrameMaker's PDF setup, Links tab. Try turning it ON and recreate the PDFs. There is no practical way of fixing such bad links at the PDF stage (but using a PDF add-on is recommended to verify all interactive features). Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com FrameMaker/TCS training consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: DPI Recommendation for Images
Alan Litchfield wrote: ... There is no value that I see in trying to dictate to the reader what they will see at any specified zoom. The reader will decide what is `good enough' for their viewing pleasure. ... Forcing a specific zoom (related to the DPI value at which the screen captures are placed in FM) is indeed not practical, especially since readers can easily switch between view settings of Fit Page, Fit Width etc. (that result in different zoom levels in different computers/screens). However, this variable zoom effectively guarantees that the rendering of screen captures will be suboptimal, with different levels of distortion (missing pixels and/or blurred display). This is not a problem when the PDF is primarily intended for print purposes, but many PDFs are primarily used on-screen (even when the intended use is print, e.g. to benefit from interactivity/search). No easy solutions, unfortunately. Displaying the screen capture without any distortion is possible through off-page display -- see different examples at http://www.microtype.com/ImprovePDF29.html . [ The same issue applies directly to the display of SWF screen movies (where FM8/9/10 only support in-document placement; distortion of movie display in the PDF is practically guaranteed), see comparison of playback modes at http://www.microtype.com/showcase/MultimediaAsst/PlaybackModes.pdf or http://www.microtype.com/showcase/MultimediaAsst/PlaybackModes-Native.pdf , Acrobat/Reader 9 or higher ] Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com FrameMaker/TCS training consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Generating a single FM document with conditional text from several documents
Not exactly clear as to what you are trying to do, but you could copy text from one .fm document to another (just remember to import any formats that you have in use in the one file that aren't present in the other) and then apply a conditional tag to the text. That way you would end up with one .fm doc that had all the text in it with various parts conditionalized. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Wei Jiang (PT_CN) Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 10:30 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Generating a single FM document with conditional text from several documents Dear Framers, I was just wonder if this is any way to tool to compete this job: I have several FM documents which were edited from a same FM document, for several similar products, and I want o create a single FM document with conditional text for all these products. Can I? TIA! Wei Jiang Senior Chinese Translator, Project Manager of Multilingual Localization Projects Beijin, China ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Generating a single FM document with conditional text from several documents
Are you saying that you want to keep the FM files separate, but pull their content into one FM file? If so, you can try to use the text inset feature in FM. Nadine --- On Fri, 3/25/11, Jeff Coatsworth jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com wrote: From: Jeff Coatsworth jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com Subject: RE: Generating a single FM document with conditional text from several documents To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com Date: Friday, March 25, 2011, 8:49 AM _filtered #yiv1398792390 { font-family:SimSun;} _filtered #yiv1398792390 { font-family:Cambria Math;} _filtered #yiv1398792390 { font-family:Calibri;} _filtered #yiv1398792390 { font-family:SimSun;} _filtered #yiv1398792390 {margin:72.0pt 90.0pt 72.0pt 90.0pt;} #yiv1398792390 P.yiv1398792390MsoNormal { TEXT-JUSTIFY:inter-ideograph;FONT-SIZE:10.5pt;MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt;FONT-FAMILY:sans-serif;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;} #yiv1398792390 LI.yiv1398792390MsoNormal { TEXT-JUSTIFY:inter-ideograph;FONT-SIZE:10.5pt;MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt;FONT-FAMILY:sans-serif;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;} #yiv1398792390 DIV.yiv1398792390MsoNormal { TEXT-JUSTIFY:inter-ideograph;FONT-SIZE:10.5pt;MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt;FONT-FAMILY:sans-serif;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;} #yiv1398792390 A:link { COLOR:blue;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;} #yiv1398792390 SPAN.yiv1398792390MsoHyperlink { COLOR:blue;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;} #yiv1398792390 A:visited { COLOR:purple;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;} #yiv1398792390 SPAN.yiv1398792390MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR:purple;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;} #yiv1398792390 SPAN.yiv1398792390EmailStyle17 { COLOR:windowtext;FONT-FAMILY:sans-serif;} #yiv1398792390 .yiv1398792390MsoChpDefault { FONT-SIZE:10pt;} #yiv1398792390 DIV.yiv1398792390WordSection1 { } Not exactly clear as to what you are trying to do, but you could copy text from one .fm document to another (just remember to import any formats that you have in use in the one file that aren't present in the other) and then apply a conditional tag to the text. That way you would end up with one .fm doc that had all the text in it with various parts conditionalized. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Wei Jiang (PT_CN) Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 10:30 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Generating a single FM document with conditional text from several documents Dear Framers, I was just wonder if this is any way to tool to compete this job: I have several FM documents which were edited from a same FM document, for several similar products, and I want o create a single FM document with conditional text for all these products. Can I? TIA! Wei Jiang Senior Chinese Translator, Project Manager of Multilingual Localization Projects Beijin, China -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as generic...@yahoo.ca. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.ca Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: DPI Recommendation for Images
I have to admit to being curious about this discussion as image quality has never been an issue for me (if it matters: FM9, all patched on Windows 7). I use only EPS files or, if I need to insert arrows or other highlighted options on an image, I use a TIF or PNG inside a Visio file which I then save to PDF. All images are imported by reference. (I *very* seldom scale a PDF after importing it and if I do, I try to keep it within a few percentage points of 100%.) I create my final PDFs twice from the same book setup with different joboption files so I get a digital version for viewing and a press quality one for printing on a professional, 600 dpi, high-speed, colour laser (with/without links and lower/higher image downsample settings are the major differences). Both of these options result in good, onscreen image quality at reasonable zoom levels (if you're going to zoom to 600% or 1000%, you get what you get). I have to plead major ignorance in the field of images, so how did I luck into a reliable method which I devised after a little trial and error? Alison -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shlomo Perets Sent: March 25, 2011 3:04 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: DPI Recommendation for Images Alan Litchfield wrote: ... There is no value that I see in trying to dictate to the reader what they will see at any specified zoom. The reader will decide what is `good enough' for their viewing pleasure. ... Forcing a specific zoom (related to the DPI value at which the screen captures are placed in FM) is indeed not practical, especially since readers can easily switch between view settings of Fit Page, Fit Width etc. (that result in different zoom levels in different computers/screens). However, this variable zoom effectively guarantees that the rendering of screen captures will be suboptimal, with different levels of distortion (missing pixels and/or blurred display). This is not a problem when the PDF is primarily intended for print purposes, but many PDFs are primarily used on-screen (even when the intended use is print, e.g. to benefit from interactivity/search). No easy solutions, unfortunately. Displaying the screen capture without any distortion is possible through off-page display -- see different examples at http://www.microtype.com/ImprovePDF29.html . [ The same issue applies directly to the display of SWF screen movies (where FM8/9/10 only support in-document placement; distortion of movie display in the PDF is practically guaranteed), see comparison of playback modes at http://www.microtype.com/showcase/MultimediaAsst/PlaybackModes.pdf or http://www.microtype.com/showcase/MultimediaAsst/PlaybackModes-Native.pdf , Acrobat/Reader 9 or higher ] Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com FrameMaker/TCS training consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alison.craig%40ultrasonix.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Missing text insets that aren't missing
Under different circumstances I've had the same problem (unstructured FM9, all patched on Windows 7). To get rid of the unresolved text inset complaints, I completely deleted the all text insets in the relevant files, including the paragraph tags to which they were attached. Then I reinserted the P tags and text insets. That did the trick for me. The P tag issue was important as I found that deleting all the text insets - without reinserting them - then updating the files still resulted in complaints about unresolved text insets. I have no idea why this would be. Alison Alison Craig, Technical Writer Ultrasonix Medical Corporation Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127 E-mail: alison.cr...@ultrasonix.commailto:alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of LG Lists Sent: March 24, 2011 3:42 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Missing text insets that aren't missing All, FM 8 (unstructured) Win XP I've created a book by copying over the files from another similar book, renaming the book, TOC, and IX files, then changing the text to suit the new book. Both the original book and the new one use lots of text insets. In the new book, I've replaced every text inset from a new location. When I create an LOR, all the insets are coming from the correct folder. When I search for unresolved text insets, I find none. But, when I update the book, 3 files always come up with unresolved text insets. I notice that the book errors show a path to the original file for the old book for these 3 files, but I can't find anything pointing to that folder. When I open the 3 files, no error messages about unresolved text insets. I've tried the following: * I opened one file as a mif and searched for the old folder/book file name. I found just one instance in an xref. I didn't think that was the cause of this. * Created a whole new book file, added the chapters, updated, same unresolved text inset messages after updating. * Washed all files via MIF. No change. * Opened a blank file, copied all of a chapter into it, and updated with the newly created chapter. No change. Anyone know where FM is storing the old folder/book name information and how to expunge it? Of course, I'm on a deadline. Thanks!! ~ Linda G. Gallagher STC Fellow TechCom Plus, LLC lindag at techcomplus dot com www.techcomplus.comhttp://www.techcomplus.com/ 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144 Tutorials, show me demos, user guides, help, FrameMaker and WebWorks ePublisher templates RMIMA Secretary www.RMIMA.orghttp://www.rmima.org/ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: DPI Recommendation for Images
I think that you chose well by having a digital version and a print version. That immediately solves one of the major problems. I use the rubric save big and shrink down, that is, make relatively big images and then scale them down. Scaling algorithms do reasonably well at throwing away information. Nothing does well at creating information from nothing. The larger the original image, the more pixels you have for any particular image point. The algorithm can always throw away extra pixels or color levels. Multiple scaling is also a no-no. Scale the image *once*. Scale the document it goes into *once*. Scalings are multiplicative. Alas, not enough formats out there support vector graphics. We're incredibly fortunate that the world has adopted what are essentially vector fonts. On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Alison Craig alison.cr...@ultrasonix.comwrote: I have to admit to being curious about this discussion as image quality has never been an issue for me (if it matters: FM9, all patched on Windows 7). I use only EPS files or, if I need to insert arrows or other highlighted options on an image, I use a TIF or PNG inside a Visio file which I then save to PDF. All images are imported by reference. (I *very* seldom scale a PDF after importing it and if I do, I try to keep it within a few percentage points of 100%.) I create my final PDFs twice from the same book setup with different joboption files so I get a digital version for viewing and a press quality one for printing on a professional, 600 dpi, high-speed, colour laser (with/without links and lower/higher image downsample settings are the major differences). Both of these options result in good, onscreen image quality at reasonable zoom levels (if you're going to zoom to 600% or 1000%, you get what you get). I have to plead major ignorance in the field of images, so how did I luck into a reliable method which I devised after a little trial and error? Alison -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shlomo Perets Sent: March 25, 2011 3:04 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: DPI Recommendation for Images Alan Litchfield wrote: ... There is no value that I see in trying to dictate to the reader what they will see at any specified zoom. The reader will decide what is `good enough' for their viewing pleasure. ... Forcing a specific zoom (related to the DPI value at which the screen captures are placed in FM) is indeed not practical, especially since readers can easily switch between view settings of Fit Page, Fit Width etc. (that result in different zoom levels in different computers/screens). However, this variable zoom effectively guarantees that the rendering of screen captures will be suboptimal, with different levels of distortion (missing pixels and/or blurred display). This is not a problem when the PDF is primarily intended for print purposes, but many PDFs are primarily used on-screen (even when the intended use is print, e.g. to benefit from interactivity/search). No easy solutions, unfortunately. Displaying the screen capture without any distortion is possible through off-page display -- see different examples at http://www.microtype.com/ImprovePDF29.html . [ The same issue applies directly to the display of SWF screen movies (where FM8/9/10 only support in-document placement; distortion of movie display in the PDF is practically guaranteed), see comparison of playback modes at http://www.microtype.com/showcase/MultimediaAsst/PlaybackModes.pdf or http://www.microtype.com/showcase/MultimediaAsst/PlaybackModes-Native.pdf, Acrobat/Reader 9 or higher ] Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com FrameMaker/TCS training consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alison.craig%40ultrasonix.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as jma...@jmalin.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jmalin%40jmalin.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To
RE: Generating a single FM document with conditional text from several documents
Dear Nadine, Jeff (and Steve, Ann, And Fei, who replied by personal emails): Thank you for you replies. What I wan is a short cut, if one exists, to generating a document that has conditional text. I envision a tool that can analyze similar but not identical documents and create a catch-call document. I wish you see what I mean. Kindest, Wei From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Writer Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 9:04 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Jeff Coatsworth Subject: RE: Generating a single FM document with conditional text from several documents Are you saying that you want to keep the FM files separate, but pull their content into one FM file? If so, you can try to use the text inset feature in FM. Nadine --- On Fri, 3/25/11, Jeff Coatsworth jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com wrote: From: Jeff Coatsworth jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com Subject: RE: Generating a single FM document with conditional text from several documents To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com Date: Friday, March 25, 2011, 8:49 AM Not exactly clear as to what you are trying to do, but you could copy text from one .fm document to another (just remember to import any formats that you have in use in the one file that aren't present in the other) and then apply a conditional tag to the text. That way you would end up with one .fm doc that had all the text in it with various parts conditionalized. _ From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Wei Jiang (PT_CN) Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 10:30 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Generating a single FM document with conditional text from several documents Dear Framers, I was just wonder if this is any way to tool to compete this job: I have several FM documents which were edited from a same FM document, for several similar products, and I want o create a single FM document with conditional text for all these products. Can I? TIA! Wei Jiang Senior Chinese Translator, Project Manager of Multilingual Localization Projects Beijin, China -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as generic...@yahoo.ca. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.ca Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Slightly OT: CE guidelines for organizing, formatting documentation
I'm trying to find formatting and organization guidelines, standards, or even templates for manuals that document CE-compliant products sold in the EU. Does anyone know where I can find these guidelines or standards, if they even exist? -briank ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Generating a single FM document with conditional text from several documents
What I understand that you want to do is similar to this (I'm only describing two documents for this example): Merge doc A and doc B such that the common text between then will be unconditional, and the specialized text will be conditional. For two documents you can do this with the Doc Compare function... You would get an INSERT and a DELETE condition for the changes. You could then change the condition names to be something more useful to you. How to get in a 3rd, 4th, or 5th document, I don't know. Depending on the nature of the differences, you might be able to work it out with successive passes. But that would be difficult to trust, in my opinion. cud ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Slightly OT: CE guidelines for organizing, formatting documentation
This reference is getting a bit long in the tooth, but covers some of what you're after: http://www.amazon.com/Practical-Guide-Machinery-Directive/dp/0852989733 http://www.amazon.com/Practical-Guide-Machinery-Directive/dp/0852989733 . You might also poke around the results of this search http://goo.gl/zqb4K a bit. HTH, Jim -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com ] On Behalf Of Brian C. Keith Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 1:07 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Slightly OT: CE guidelines for organizing, formatting documentation I'm trying to find formatting and organization guidelines, standards, or even templates for manuals that document CE-compliant products sold in the EU. Does anyone know where I can find these guidelines or standards, if they even exist? -briank ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as jim.pink...@voith.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jim.pinkham%40voith. com http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jim.pinkham%40voith .com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Slightly OT: CE guidelines for organizing, formatting documentation
I don't know of any guidelines for CE. We ship tools to EU and no one has ever told me to change my style. However, the one thing that has been requested is that we have to translate certain manuals and safety chapters to the native language of the country we are shipping to in order to get CE certification. Thank you, Gillian Flato Senior Technical Writer (Software) nanometrics 1550 Buckeye Dr. Milpitas, CA. 95035 9408.545.6316 408.232.5911 4 gfl...@nanometrics.com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Brian C. Keith Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 11:07 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Slightly OT: CE guidelines for organizing, formatting documentation I'm trying to find formatting and organization guidelines, standards, or even templates for manuals that document CE-compliant products sold in the EU. Does anyone know where I can find these guidelines or standards, if they even exist? -briank ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as gfl...@nanometrics.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/gflato%40nanometrics.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Cross References not working in PDF
Robert, You wrote: >Our standard documentation is created in Unstructured FrameMaker 9 and >printed to Adobe PDF. We are noticing that some of the cross >references in the PDF file are not working. These could be cross >references to figures, tables, or other sections within the manual. >When we look at the source FrameMaker files there doesn't seem to be >an issue; we can CTRL+ALT click on the cross reference and it takes us >to the marker without issue. ... A common reason for random bad links/bookmarks is having "Create Named Destinations for All Paragraphs" turned off in FrameMaker's PDF setup, Links tab. Try turning it ON and recreate the PDFs. There is no practical way of fixing such bad links at the PDF stage (but using a PDF add-on is recommended to verify all interactive features). Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com FrameMaker/TCS training & consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants
DPI Recommendation for Images
Alan Litchfield wrote: >... There is no value that I see in trying to dictate to the reader what >they will see at any specified zoom. The reader will decide what is >`good enough' for their viewing pleasure. ... Forcing a specific zoom (related to the DPI value at which the screen captures are placed in FM) is indeed not practical, especially since readers can easily switch between view settings of Fit Page, Fit Width etc. (that result in different zoom levels in different computers/screens). However, this variable zoom effectively guarantees that the rendering of screen captures will be suboptimal, with different levels of distortion (missing pixels and/or blurred display). This is not a problem when the PDF is primarily intended for print purposes, but many PDFs are primarily used on-screen (even when the intended use is print, e.g. to benefit from interactivity/search). No easy solutions, unfortunately. Displaying the screen capture without any distortion is possible through "off-page" display -- see different examples at http://www.microtype.com/ImprovePDF29.html . [ The same issue applies directly to the display of SWF screen movies (where FM8/9/10 only support in-document placement; distortion of movie display in the PDF is practically guaranteed), see comparison of playback modes at http://www.microtype.com/showcase/MultimediaAsst/PlaybackModes.pdf or http://www.microtype.com/showcase/MultimediaAsst/PlaybackModes-Native.pdf , Acrobat/Reader 9 or higher ] Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com FrameMaker/TCS training & consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants
Generating a single FM document with conditional text from several documents
Not exactly clear as to what you are trying to do, but you could copy text from one .fm document to another (just remember to import any formats that you have in use in the one file that aren't present in the other) and then apply a conditional tag to the text. That way you would end up with one .fm doc that had all the text in it with various parts conditionalized. From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Wei Jiang (PT_CN) Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 10:30 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Generating a single FM document with conditional text from several documents Dear Framers, I was just wonder if this is any way to tool to compete this job: I have several FM documents which were edited from a same FM document, for several similar products, and I want o create a single FM document with conditional text for all these products. Can I? TIA! Wei Jiang Senior Chinese Translator, Project Manager of Multilingual Localization Projects Beijin, China -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20110325/4a3a27b4/attachment.html>
Generating a single FM document with conditional text from several documents
Are you saying that you want to keep the FM files separate, but pull their content into one FM file? If so, you can try to use the text inset feature in FM. Nadine --- On Fri, 3/25/11, Jeff Coatsworth wrote: From: Jeff Coatsworth <jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com> Subject: RE: Generating a single FM document with conditional text from several documents To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com" Date: Friday, March 25, 2011, 8:49 AM _filtered #yiv1398792390 { font-family:SimSun;} _filtered #yiv1398792390 { font-family:Cambria Math;} _filtered #yiv1398792390 { font-family:Calibri;} _filtered #yiv1398792390 { font-family:SimSun;} _filtered #yiv1398792390 {margin:72.0pt 90.0pt 72.0pt 90.0pt;} #yiv1398792390 P.yiv1398792390MsoNormal { TEXT-JUSTIFY:inter-ideograph;FONT-SIZE:10.5pt;MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt;FONT-FAMILY:"sans-serif";TEXT-ALIGN:justify;} #yiv1398792390 LI.yiv1398792390MsoNormal { TEXT-JUSTIFY:inter-ideograph;FONT-SIZE:10.5pt;MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt;FONT-FAMILY:"sans-serif";TEXT-ALIGN:justify;} #yiv1398792390 DIV.yiv1398792390MsoNormal { TEXT-JUSTIFY:inter-ideograph;FONT-SIZE:10.5pt;MARGIN:0cm 0cm 0pt;FONT-FAMILY:"sans-serif";TEXT-ALIGN:justify;} #yiv1398792390 A:link { COLOR:blue;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;} #yiv1398792390 SPAN.yiv1398792390MsoHyperlink { COLOR:blue;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;} #yiv1398792390 A:visited { COLOR:purple;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;} #yiv1398792390 SPAN.yiv1398792390MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR:purple;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;} #yiv1398792390 SPAN.yiv1398792390EmailStyle17 { COLOR:windowtext;FONT-FAMILY:"sans-serif";} #yiv1398792390 .yiv1398792390MsoChpDefault { FONT-SIZE:10pt;} #yiv1398792390 DIV.yiv1398792390WordSection1 { } Not exactly clear as to what you are trying to do, but you could copy text from one .fm document to another (just remember to import any formats that you have in use in the one file that aren't present in the other) and then apply a conditional tag to the text. That way you would end up with one .fm doc that had all the text in it with various parts conditionalized. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Wei Jiang (PT_CN) Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 10:30 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Generating a single FM document with conditional text from several documents Dear Framers, ? I was just wonder if this is any way to tool to compete this job: I have several FM documents which were edited from a same FM document, for several similar products, and I want o create a single FM document with conditional text for all these products. Can I? ? TIA! ? Wei Jiang Senior Chinese Translator, Project Manager of Multilingual Localization Projects Beijin, China ? ? -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as generic668 at yahoo.ca. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.ca Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20110325/1f7b7a49/attachment.html>
DPI Recommendation for Images
I have to admit to being curious about this discussion as image quality has never been an issue for me (if it matters: FM9, all patched on Windows 7). I use only EPS files or, if I need to insert arrows or other highlighted options on an image, I use a TIF or PNG inside a Visio file which I then save to PDF. All images are imported by reference. (I *very* seldom scale a PDF after importing it and if I do, I try to keep it within a few percentage points of 100%.) I create my final PDFs twice from the same book setup with different joboption files so I get a digital version for viewing and a press quality one for printing on a professional, 600 dpi, high-speed, colour laser (with/without links and lower/higher image downsample settings are the major differences). Both of these options result in good, onscreen image quality at reasonable zoom levels (if you're going to zoom to 600% or 1000%, you get what you get). I have to plead major ignorance in the field of images, so how did I luck into a reliable method which I devised after a little trial and error? Alison -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shlomo Perets Sent: March 25, 2011 3:04 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: DPI Recommendation for Images Alan Litchfield wrote: >... There is no value that I see in trying to dictate to the reader what >they will see at any specified zoom. The reader will decide what is >`good enough' for their viewing pleasure. ... Forcing a specific zoom (related to the DPI value at which the screen captures are placed in FM) is indeed not practical, especially since readers can easily switch between view settings of Fit Page, Fit Width etc. (that result in different zoom levels in different computers/screens). However, this variable zoom effectively guarantees that the rendering of screen captures will be suboptimal, with different levels of distortion (missing pixels and/or blurred display). This is not a problem when the PDF is primarily intended for print purposes, but many PDFs are primarily used on-screen (even when the intended use is print, e.g. to benefit from interactivity/search). No easy solutions, unfortunately. Displaying the screen capture without any distortion is possible through "off-page" display -- see different examples at http://www.microtype.com/ImprovePDF29.html . [ The same issue applies directly to the display of SWF screen movies (where FM8/9/10 only support in-document placement; distortion of movie display in the PDF is practically guaranteed), see comparison of playback modes at http://www.microtype.com/showcase/MultimediaAsst/PlaybackModes.pdf or http://www.microtype.com/showcase/MultimediaAsst/PlaybackModes-Native.pdf , Acrobat/Reader 9 or higher ] Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com FrameMaker/TCS training & consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as alison.craig at ultrasonix.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alison.craig%40ultrasonix.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Missing text insets that aren't missing
Under different circumstances I've had the same problem (unstructured FM9, all patched on Windows 7). To get rid of the unresolved text inset complaints, I completely deleted the all text insets in the relevant files, including the paragraph tags to which they were attached. Then I reinserted the P tags and text insets. That did the trick for me. The P tag issue was important as I found that deleting all the text insets - without reinserting them - then updating the files still resulted in complaints about unresolved text insets. I have no idea why this would be. Alison Alison Craig, Technical Writer Ultrasonix Medical Corporation Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127 E-mail: alison.craig at ultrasonix.com<mailto:alison.craig at ultrasonix.com> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of LG Lists Sent: March 24, 2011 3:42 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Missing text insets that aren't missing All, FM 8 (unstructured) Win XP I've created a book by copying over the files from another similar book, renaming the book, TOC, and IX files, then changing the text to suit the new book. Both the original book and the new one use lots of text insets. In the new book, I've replaced every text inset from a new location. When I create an LOR, all the insets are coming from the correct folder. When I search for unresolved text insets, I find none. But, when I update the book, 3 files always come up with unresolved text insets. I notice that the book errors show a path to the original file for the old book for these 3 files, but I can't find anything pointing to that folder. When I open the 3 files, no error messages about unresolved text insets. I've tried the following: * I opened one file as a mif and searched for the old folder/book file name. I found just one instance in an xref. I didn't think that was the cause of this. * Created a whole new book file, added the chapters, updated, same unresolved text inset messages after updating. * Washed all files via MIF. No change. * Opened a blank file, copied all of a chapter into it, and updated with the newly created chapter. No change. Anyone know where FM is storing the old folder/book name information and how to expunge it? Of course, I'm on a deadline. Thanks!! ~ Linda G. Gallagher STC Fellow TechCom Plus, LLC lindag at techcomplus dot com www.techcomplus.com<http://www.techcomplus.com/> 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144 Tutorials, "show me" demos, user guides, help, FrameMaker and WebWorks ePublisher templates RMIMA Secretary www.RMIMA.org<http://www.rmima.org/> -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20110325/ade73a9d/attachment.html>
DPI Recommendation for Images
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Generating a single FM document with conditional text from several documents
Dear Nadine, Jeff (and Steve, Ann, And Fei, who replied by personal emails): Thank you for you replies. What I wan is a short cut, if one exists, to generating a document that has conditional text. I envision a tool that can analyze similar but not identical documents and create a catch-call document. I wish you see what I mean. Kindest, Wei From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Writer Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 9:04 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; Jeff Coatsworth Subject: RE: Generating a single FM document with conditional text from several documents Are you saying that you want to keep the FM files separate, but pull their content into one FM file? If so, you can try to use the text inset feature in FM. Nadine --- On Fri, 3/25/11, Jeff Coatsworth wrote: From: Jeff Coatsworth <jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com> Subject: RE: Generating a single FM document with conditional text from several documents To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com" Date: Friday, March 25, 2011, 8:49 AM Not exactly clear as to what you are trying to do, but you could copy text from one .fm document to another (just remember to import any formats that you have in use in the one file that aren't present in the other) and then apply a conditional tag to the text. That way you would end up with one .fm doc that had all the text in it with various parts conditionalized. _ From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Wei Jiang (PT_CN) Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 10:30 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Generating a single FM document with conditional text from several documents Dear Framers, I was just wonder if this is any way to tool to compete this job: I have several FM documents which were edited from a same FM document, for several similar products, and I want o create a single FM document with conditional text for all these products. Can I? TIA! Wei Jiang Senior Chinese Translator, Project Manager of Multilingual Localization Projects Beijin, China -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as generic668 at yahoo.ca. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.ca Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20110325/f3d9f50b/attachment.html>
Slightly OT: CE guidelines for organizing, formatting documentation
I'm trying to find formatting and organization guidelines, standards, or even templates for manuals that document CE-compliant products sold in the EU. Does anyone know where I can find these guidelines or standards, if they even exist? -briank
Generating a single FM document with conditional text from several documents
What I understand that you want to do is similar to this (I'm only describing two documents for this example): Merge doc A and doc B such that the common text between then will be unconditional, and the specialized text will be conditional. For two documents you can do this with the Doc Compare function... You would get an INSERT and a DELETE condition for the changes. You could then change the condition names to be something more useful to you. How to get in a 3rd, 4th, or 5th document, I don't know. Depending on the nature of the differences, you might be able to work it out with successive passes. But that would be difficult to trust, in my opinion. cud -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20110325/842facc4/attachment.html>
Slightly OT: CE guidelines for organizing, formatting documentation
This reference is getting a bit long in the tooth, but covers some of what you're after: http://www.amazon.com/Practical-Guide-Machinery-Directive/dp/0852989733 <http://www.amazon.com/Practical-Guide-Machinery-Directive/dp/0852989733 > . You might also poke around the results of this search <http://goo.gl/zqb4K> a bit. HTH, Jim -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com <mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com> ] On Behalf Of Brian C. Keith Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 1:07 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Slightly OT: CE guidelines for organizing, formatting documentation I'm trying to find formatting and organization guidelines, standards, or even templates for manuals that document CE-compliant products sold in the EU. Does anyone know where I can find these guidelines or standards, if they even exist? -briank ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as jim.pinkham at voith.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jim.pinkham%40voith. com <http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jim.pinkham%40voith .com> Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ <http://www.frameusers.com/> for more resources and info. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20110325/ba5d001f/attachment.html>
Slightly OT: CE guidelines for organizing, formatting documentation
I don't know of any guidelines for CE. We ship tools to EU and no one has ever told me to change my style. However, the one thing that has been requested is that we have to translate certain manuals and safety chapters to the native language of the country we are shipping to in order to get CE certification. Thank you, ? Gillian Flato Senior Technical Writer (Software) nanometrics 1550 Buckeye Dr. Milpitas, CA. 95035 9408.545.6316 ?? 408.232.5911 4 gflato at nanometrics.com -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Brian C. Keith Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 11:07 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Slightly OT: CE guidelines for organizing, formatting documentation I'm trying to find formatting and organization guidelines, standards, or even templates for manuals that document CE-compliant products sold in the EU. Does anyone know where I can find these guidelines or standards, if they even exist? -briank ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as gflato at nanometrics.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/gflato%40nanometrics.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Missing text insets that aren't missing
Ah, that might be it. I did delete old insets and add new ones, but I generally left the anchor tag. I'll try this over the weekend and let you know. Thanks!!! ~ Linda G. Gallagher STC Fellow TechCom Plus, LLC lindag at techcomplus dot com www.techcomplus.com <http://www.techcomplus.com/> 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144 Tutorials, "show me" demos, user guides, help, FrameMaker and WebWorks ePublisher templates RMIMA Secretary www.RMIMA.org <http://www.rmima.org/> _ From: Alison Craig [mailto:alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com] Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 11:15 AM To: LG Lists; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Missing text insets that aren't missing Under different circumstances I've had the same problem (unstructured FM9, all patched on Windows 7). To get rid of the unresolved text inset complaints, I completely deleted the all text insets in the relevant files, including the paragraph tags to which they were attached. Then I reinserted the P tags and text insets. That did the trick for me. The P tag issue was important as I found that deleting all the text insets - without reinserting them - then updating the files still resulted in complaints about unresolved text insets. I have no idea why this would be. Alison Alison Craig, Technical Writer Ultrasonix Medical Corporation Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127 E-mail: <mailto:alison.craig at ultrasonix.com> alison.craig at ultrasonix.com _ From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of LG Lists Sent: March 24, 2011 3:42 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Missing text insets that aren't missing All, FM 8 (unstructured) Win XP I've created a book by copying over the files from another similar book, renaming the book, TOC, and IX files, then changing the text to suit the new book. Both the original book and the new one use lots of text insets. In the new book, I've replaced every text inset from a new location. When I create an LOR, all the insets are coming from the correct folder. When I search for unresolved text insets, I find none. But, when I update the book, 3 files always come up with unresolved text insets. I notice that the book errors show a path to the original file for the old book for these 3 files, but I can't find anything pointing to that folder. When I open the 3 files, no error messages about unresolved text insets. I've tried the following: * I opened one file as a mif and searched for the old folder/book file name. I found just one instance in an xref. I didn't think that was the cause of this. * Created a whole new book file, added the chapters, updated, same unresolved text inset messages after updating. * Washed all files via MIF. No change. * Opened a blank file, copied all of a chapter into it, and updated with the newly created chapter. No change. Anyone know where FM is storing the old folder/book name information and how to expunge it? Of course, I'm on a deadline. Thanks!! ~ Linda G. Gallagher STC Fellow TechCom Plus, LLC lindag at techcomplus dot com www.techcomplus.com <http://www.techcomplus.com/> 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144 Tutorials, "show me" demos, user guides, help, FrameMaker and WebWorks ePublisher templates RMIMA Secretary www.RMIMA.org <http://www.rmima.org/> -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20110325/c1760e60/attachment.html>