Re: Unexpected event
Have a quick and full recovery, Rick. -avraham On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Shmuel Wolfson shmue...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Avrohom, You sent it to the wrong person :) Regards, Shmuel Wolfson 052-763-7133 On 21-Jun-12 6:50 PM, Avraham Makeler wrote: Have a quick and full recovery, Rick. -avraham On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Shmuel Wolfson shmue...@gmail.comwrote: Have a speedy recovery. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson 052-763-7133 On 20-Jun-12 3:07 PM, Rick Quatro wrote: Hi Framers, I hesitate to put this on the list, but I have been around the FrameMaker community for a long time, and this is the only contact I have with some of you. Also, in light of Bruce Foster's sudden disappearance last year, I thought it would be appropriate to post this. Hi Everyone, As many of you know, I was supposed to be on vacation this week, cycling across New York State with 17 other guys. During my last few training rides, I experienced some discomfort in my chest. It was a concern because I am in pretty good shape with almost 800 miles on the bike so far this summer. I had a stress test on Friday, and the results showed an 80% chance of a blockage in one of my cardiac arteries. Monday I went into the hospital for an angiogram, with the anticipation of having the blockage opened and a stent put in. However, the test showed a couple of areas of blockage, one being in an area that can't be opened with a stent. So on Wednesday around 12:45 pm, I am going to have open heart surgery with at least a double bypass. I will be in the hospital for 3-5 days and hopefully experience a quick recovery at home. I should be back to work late next week. Those of you who know me well understand that I have a deep abiding relationship with Jesus Christ. I received Him as my Savior on April 6, 1984 when I was twenty-five years old. Because He has forgiven me of my sins, I know that when I die, I will be with Him in heaven. I am still a sinner and don't deserve heaven, but because of His death on the cross and subsequent resurrection, He gives eternal life to those who receive Him by faith. That said, I am still fairly young (53), and have some young kids left to raise. So, if you are given to prayer, please pray for Sherry and I this Wednesday. Finally, thank you all for being a part of my life. The great people that I work with is an important part of making my work so satisfying. Sincerely, Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-283-5045 r...@frameexpert.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as shmue...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as amake...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/amakeler%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Regards, avraham ~ (+972) (0)54-3084886 Mercy on all, coz everyone's fighting some sort of battle -- Regards, avraham ~ (+972) (0)54-3084886 Mercy on all, coz everyone's fighting some sort of battle ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Saving Frame 10 files in batch to Frame 7
Dear Framers, Framemaker 10 + Framemaker 7.2 + Framescript 5.2R1p248 Am I correct that for saving Framemaker 10 files to Framemaker 7, in batch, I need to pass by MIF7, right? In Framemaker 10, I have a script that saves all my Framemaker 10 files from a book to MIF7. In Framemaker 7.2, I then use another script to save a folder of MIFs to FM7. I then get a lot of opcode errors in the console: (13362): Invalid opcode: XRefSrcElemNonUniqueId. --- Skipping these characters: -- Done skipping.MIF: C:\temp\xxx.mif (13363): Invalid opcode: XRefAltText. --- Skipping these characters: -- Done skipping.MIF: C:\temp\xxx.mif (13364): Invalid opcode: XRefApiClient. --- Skipping these characters: XRefClientName XRefClientType -- Done skipping.MIF: C:\temp\xxx.mif The files then open with Framemaker 7 but links between different documents of the same book do not work any more. Can someone help? Thanks in advance, Tom Tom De Rouck SGS Documentation Services Junior Project Manager SGS Belgium NV Derbystraat 243 B-9051 - Gent E-mail : tom.dero...@sgs.commailto:tom.dero...@sgs.com Information in this email and any attachments is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual(s) to whom it is addressed or otherwise directed. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Company. Finally, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The Company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. All SGS services are rendered in accordance with the applicable SGS conditions of service available on request and accessible at http://www.sgs.com/en/Terms-and-Conditions.aspx ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Single sourcing from Frame and a wiki ... or something ...
You may want to look at the Confluence wiki. I know that there is a DITA Confluence tool (Dita2Wiki?) and WebWorks ePublisher will also convert FM to Confluence. However, I don't know if it's possible to go the other way, or to round-trip content between FM DITA and Confluence. According to Sarah Maddox's book on wikis, Confluence will import and export DocBook XML so that might be another option. I'm sure others will comment on this. Regards, Keith From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of rebecca officer Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 2:03 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Single sourcing from Frame and a wiki ... or something ... Hi everyone Our docs team (4 of us) creates a many-thousand-page multi-chapter user manual in unstructured Frame. Lots of tables and cross-refs. Conditional text used to publish several variants. Published as PDFs a couple of times a year, delivered online. And the engineers (about 80) have a wiki that's a mish-mash of internal feature development info, some of which ends up in the user manual. I've been asked to make the user manual and the internal docs use the same source, which both writers and engineers would write. We want to work collaboratively, stop duplicating effort and come much closer to real-time updates. I'll need to include version control, content re-use, status tagging (e.g. draft/final), read-only access, and delivery as PDF and HTML. While I'm at it, I'd like to do automated builds and publish ebooks. The engineers would like the wiki to be the source. The writers want to stay with FM. I'm prepared to make everyone change tools (*grin*) but only if we have to. As a complicating factor, the engineers are all on Linux. Getting an FM licence per engineer would blow my budget (Adobe, how about selling a site licence???), and they'd have to run it in Virtual Box. I'm not seeing a happy ending there. I've got plenty of implementation time and can lay my mitts on a programmer or two. Budget's not yet set but prob around $20K. So ... Does anyone know of a good tool for round-tripping Framemaker -- Wiki? Should I be looking at XML? Any other thoughts on how I should tackle this? Many thanks Rebecca NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs. NOTICE OF CONFIDENTIALITY This e-mail, including all materials contained in or attached to this e-mail, contains proprietary and confidential information solely for the internal use of the intended recipient. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or otherwise and ensure that it is permanently deleted from your systems, and do not print, copy, distribute or read its contents. AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? Le pr?sent courriel, y compris tous les documents qu'il contient ou qui y sont joints, renferme des renseignements exclusifs et confidentiels destin?s uniquement ? l'usage interne du destinataire pr?vu. Si vous avez re?u le pr?sent courriel par erreur, veuillez nous aviser imm?diatement, notamment par retour de courriel, et vous assurer qu'il est supprim? de fa?on permanente de vos syst?mes; veuillez ?galement vous abstenir d'imprimer, de copier, de distribuer ou de lire son contenu. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: OT: Unexpected event
That's good news. Thanks for passing it along. Keith From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alison Craig Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 8:24 PM To: Ken Poshedly; FrameMaker Users List Subject: RE: OT: Unexpected event That's absolutely great news! Alison From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ken Poshedly Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 4:48 PM To: FrameMaker Users List Subject: Re: OT: Unexpected event To all, Rick e-mailed me on Monday that the double bypass surgery was a success and that he'll be back online in the near future. He's even trying to update his blog. -- Ken in Atlanta NOTICE OF CONFIDENTIALITY This e-mail, including all materials contained in or attached to this e-mail, contains proprietary and confidential information solely for the internal use of the intended recipient. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or otherwise and ensure that it is permanently deleted from your systems, and do not print, copy, distribute or read its contents. AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALIT? Le pr?sent courriel, y compris tous les documents qu'il contient ou qui y sont joints, renferme des renseignements exclusifs et confidentiels destin?s uniquement ? l'usage interne du destinataire pr?vu. Si vous avez re?u le pr?sent courriel par erreur, veuillez nous aviser imm?diatement, notamment par retour de courriel, et vous assurer qu'il est supprim? de fa?on permanente de vos syst?mes; veuillez ?galement vous abstenir d'imprimer, de copier, de distribuer ou de lire son contenu. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: OT: Unexpected event
And there was much rejoicing! --Lynn From: Ken Poshedly poshe...@bellsouth.net To: FrameMaker Users List framers@lists.frameusers.com Date: 06/25/2012 05:03 PM Subject:Re: OT: Unexpected event Sent by:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com To all, Rick e-mailed me on Monday that the double bypass surgery was a success and that he'll be back online in the near future. He's even trying to update his blog. -- Ken in Atlanta ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as lg...@us.ibm.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/lgold%40us.ibm.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: OT: Unexpected event
Such welcomed news! Thanks to all who passed this on. Will look forward to sending congratulations to Rick personally when he reappears. ___ Maxwell Hoffmann | Product Evangelist | Adobe | p. 503.336.5952 | c. 503.805.3719 | mhoff...@adobe.com http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann - http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann blogs.adobe.com/techcomm Message: 7 Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 16:48:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Poshedly poshe...@bellsouth.net To: FrameMaker Users List framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: OT: Unexpected event To all, Rick e-mailed me on Monday that the double bypass surgery was a success and that he'll be back online in the near future. He's even trying to update his blog. -- Ken in Atlanta ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
how to italicize every instance of certain words
Carol, What about using variables for this? Amy M. Barry Lead Desktop Publisher XMCO INC. 5501 Enterprise Ct. Suite 400 Warren, MI 48092 Phone: (586) 558-8510 ext. 146 Fax: (586) 558-8573 mailto:sal...@xmcoinc.com aba...@xmcoinc.com A hint before you print: Think Green. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Japanese in generated indexes
Hi, everyone, In documentation for a recently acquired product, we have FrameMaker documents in Japanese. This is my first experience in working with non-English documents. The documents have these characteristics: § On my system, at least, whatever font was originally used for Japanese is substituted by the Meiryo font, which is distributed on Windows 7 systems. The console has lines such as this: The ‰l‰r ‰oúͩ Font Family is not available. Meiryo will be used in this session. § Both the documents and the generated index look all right. § However, in the Markers pod, all of the index entries are gibberish, which I have also confirmed in individual markers. It seems odd that the text would be incorrect in the markers but correct in the generated index, but that is what I am seeing. § If I generate a marker list using the ixgen utility, I get the same gibberish as in the Markers pod. § Although beyond the scope of this particular list, when these documents are generated into WebWorks Help documents using WebWorks Express (through stationary developed in WebWorks ePublisher of course), the index also displays gibberish. My best guess is this: the markers, Makers pod, and ixgen all fail to substitute an available Japanese font for the marker text. Arial appears to be the font being used. But when the index is generated, FrameMaker does substitute a Japanese font in this document. So my question to you all: does anyone who works with Japanese documents know to induce FrameMaker to use a Japanese font in markers, and the Markers pod? If you use ixgen, do you know how to obtain proper Japanese text in its generated marker list? Regards. Marc Betz ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Single sourcing from Frame and a wiki ... or something ...
Unfortunately I can only reply that we have the same problem, and that I ended up writing docs straight in the wiki (and banging my head on walls). One of ou dev did a nice job to produce neat HTMLs from the Wiki, but it is still very frech (we're currently profreading the first user's guide written this way). For PDF export, nothing matching PDF produced from FM has been done yet. What I can say is that I am not happy with that, but devs are, because now I'm using THEIR tool, and them not MINE. But I'm the sole writer and they're stronger than me... :). Any help on that question would be much appreciated! Cheers, Mathieu From: keith.sol...@tmx.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Single sourcing from Frame and a wiki ... or something ... Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 13:02:40 + You may want to look at the Confluence wiki. I know that there is a DITA Confluence tool (Dita2Wiki?) and WebWorks ePublisher will also convert FM to Confluence. However, I don’t know if it’s possible to go the other way, or to round-trip content between FM DITA and Confluence. According to Sarah Maddox’s book on wikis, Confluence will import and export DocBook XML so that might be another option. I’m sure others will comment on this. Regards, Keith From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of rebecca officer Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 2:03 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Single sourcing from Frame and a wiki ... or something ... Hi everyone Our docs team (4 of us) creates a many-thousand-page multi-chapter user manual in unstructured Frame. Lots of tables and cross-refs. Conditional text used to publish several variants. Published as PDFs a couple of times a year, delivered online. And the engineers (about 80) have a wiki that's a mish-mash of internal feature development info, some of which ends up in the user manual. I've been asked to make the user manual and the internal docs use the same source, which both writers and engineers would write. We want to work collaboratively, stop duplicating effort and come much closer to real-time updates. I'll need to include version control, content re-use, status tagging (e.g. draft/final), read-only access, and delivery as PDF and HTML. While I'm at it, I'd like to do automated builds and publish ebooks. The engineers would like the wiki to be the source. The writers want to stay with FM. I'm prepared to make everyone change tools (*grin*) but only if we have to. As a complicating factor, the engineers are all on Linux. Getting an FM licence per engineer would blow my budget (Adobe, how about selling a site licence???), and they'd have to run it in Virtual Box. I'm not seeing a happy ending there. I've got plenty of implementation time and can lay my mitts on a programmer or two. Budget's not yet set but prob around $20K. So ... Does anyone know of a good tool for round-tripping Framemaker -- Wiki? Should I be looking at XML? Any other thoughts on how I should tackle this? Many thanks Rebecca NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs. NOTICE OF CONFIDENTIALITY This e-mail, including all materials contained in or attached to this e-mail, contains proprietary and confidential information solely for the internal use of the intended recipient. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or otherwise and ensure that it is permanently deleted from your systems, and do not print, copy, distribute or read its contents. AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALITÉ Le présent courriel, y compris tous les documents qu'il contient ou qui y sont joints, renferme des renseignements exclusifs et confidentiels destinés uniquement à l'usage interne du destinataire prévu. Si vous avez reçu le présent courriel par erreur, veuillez nous aviser immédiatement, notamment par retour de courriel, et vous assurer qu'il est supprimé de façon permanente de vos systèmes; veuillez également vous abstenir d'imprimer, de copier, de distribuer ou de lire son contenu. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as bobi...@hotmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit
RE: Japanese in generated indexes
Marc Betz wrote: In documentation for a recently acquired product, we have FrameMaker documents in Japanese. This is my first experience in working with non- English documents. The documents have these characteristics: • On my system, at least, whatever font was originally used for Japanese is substituted by the Meiryo font, which is distributed on Windows 7 systems. The console has lines such as this: The ‰l‰r ‰oúͩ Font Family is not available. Meiryo will be used in this session. • Both the documents and the generated index look all right. • However, in the Markers pod, all of the index entries are gibberish, which I have also confirmed in individual markers. It seems odd that the text would be incorrect in the markers but correct in the generated index, but that is what I am seeing. • If I generate a marker list using the ixgen utility, I get the same gibberish as in the Markers pod. • Although beyond the scope of this particular list, when these documents are generated into WebWorks Help documents using WebWorks Express (through stationary developed in WebWorks ePublisher of course), the index also displays gibberish. My best guess is this: the markers, Makers pod, and ixgen all fail to substitute an available Japanese font for the marker text. Arial appears to be the font being used. But when the index is generated, FrameMaker does substitute a Japanese font in this document. So my question to you all: does anyone who works with Japanese documents know to induce FrameMaker to use a Japanese font in markers, and the Markers pod? If you use ixgen, do you know how to obtain proper Japanese text in its generated marker list? Someone with more than my limited experience may be able to address your specific questions -- but they haven't yet, so I'll throw this out. :-) First, it's always a good idea to specify the environment -- at least FM version and OS version. When dealing with Asian languages, it matters a lot whether you're on a pre-Unicode version of FM. Second, you undoubtedly need to install support for Japanese in Windows (and that alone may solve the gibberish problem). -- In Windows XP, go to Control Panel Regional and Language Options. On the Languages tab, check Install files for East Asian languages and click OK (you probably need your Windows install disk or CAB files -- I can't remember). -- In Windows 7, go to Control Panel Region and Language. On the Keyboards and Languages tab, click How can I install additional languages? for help. In a corporate environment, you may need assistance from your IT department. HTH to at least get you started. Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Single sourcing from Frame and a wiki ... or something ...
You may want to look at the Confluence wiki. I know that there is a DITA Confluence tool (Dita2Wiki?) and WebWorks ePublisher will also convert FM to Confluence. However, I don’t know if it’s possible to go the other way, or to round-trip content between FM DITA and Confluence. According to Sarah Maddox’s book on wikis, Confluence will import and export DocBook XML so that might be another option. I’m sure others will comment on this. Regards, Keith I was also going to suggest WebWorks ePublisher. It can ingest FM, Word, and DITA files (if you have all of the appropriate adapters). In fact, you can combine all three input formats in the same project. Can the developers author in Word? Or can you export Word files from the wiki? Nadine ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Ann: ExtendScript for FrameMaker 10 of the Week
'Creating backgrounds for graphic objects' Graphic objects like straight lines or arrows are used to emphasize certain properties in an imported graphic, e.g. as legends. One click and ... More information: http://www.finalyser.com/help/#page/Finalyser%2520Online-Help/extendscripts.xml.35.4.html Download and try it: http://finalyser-shop.com - Georg ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
AW: Single sourcing from Frame and a wiki ... or something ...
Hi Rebecca, there is WebWorks ePublisher (Trial: http://www.webworks.com/Tour/Try_ePublisher) with several output formats like: CHM, REVERB, Eclipse Help, ... and Wiki like Media Wiki, MoinMoin and Confluence. Input formats could be MS-Word, Adobe FrameMaker and DITA. We are also SW-Vendor and the authors write in FrameMaker (DITA), generate content in a Wiki (sample: http://www.make-a-muffin.de/wiki/index.php/SQUIDDS-TB_de-Sonderzeichen.x ml - here in German) and after released we generate an online-help format with WebWorks ePublisher too (sample: http://www.finalyser.com/help/#page/Finalyser%2520Online-Help/special_ch aracters.xml.26.1.html - here in English) Note: There are different results from WebWorks ePublisher for the different wiki formats. - Georg Your question: Single sourcing from Frame and a wiki ... or something ... Hi everyone Our docs team (4 of us) creates a many-thousand-page multi-chapter user manual in unstructured Frame. Lots of tables and cross-refs. Conditional text used to publish several variants. Published as PDFs a couple of times a year, delivered online. And the engineers (about 80) have a wiki that's a mish-mash of internal feature development info, some of which ends up in the user manual. I've been asked to make the user manual and the internal docs use the same source, which both writers and engineers would write. We want to work collaboratively, stop duplicating effort and come much closer to real-time updates. I'll need to include version control, content re-use, status tagging (e.g. draft/final), read-only access, and delivery as PDF and HTML. While I'm at it, I'd like to do automated builds and publish ebooks. The engineers would like the wiki to be the source. The writers want to stay with FM. I'm prepared to make everyone change tools (*grin*) but only if we have to. As a complicating factor, the engineers are all on Linux. Getting an FM licence per engineer would blow my budget (Adobe, how about selling a site licence???), and they'd have to run it in Virtual Box. I'm not seeing a happy ending there. I've got plenty of implementation time and can lay my mitts on a programmer or two. Budget's not yet set but prob around $20K. So ... Does anyone know of a good tool for round-tripping Framemaker -- Wiki? Should I be looking at XML? Any other thoughts on how I should tackle this? Many thanks Rebecca ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Single sourcing from Frame and a wiki ... or something ...
Hi Rebecca While reading your post I was thinking, XML - and then you asked the question right at the end. You don't say which wiki the engineers are using; that would be an important factor. Some of what you are looking for can be done using FrameMaker and DITA. The engineers would soon learn the DTD (I'm told that engineers like learning stuff like that). You and your writers would have a significant learning curve too, and it would take several months to implement. There is a plugin for Confluence wiki (DITA2Confluence) that will publish a ditamap and all its referenced content to wiki pages. But it is only a one-way transfer; you can't capture changes made on the wiki back to your FrameMaker source. And in the meantime Confluence 4 has switched from using wiki markup to using XHTML, so the plugin may not work with the current version of Confluence. (I'm sure there is work going on to remedy that.). The pathway from FrameMaker to wiki is not too difficult; it is the other direction (your engineer source) that will be the problem. In your situation I would be looking at more radical solutions. What about publishing your user manual through the wiki? Most wikis can output PDF too, though it will not be as pretty as that provided by FrameMaker. Instead of sticking with FrameMaker, I'd be thinking in terms of a text-based source (XHTML or XML), and tools that can convert from wiki to XML. One such is the Mylyn Project at http://www.eclipse.org/mylyn. Seehttp://greensopinion.blogspot.com/2008/11/mylyn-wikitext-targets-oasis-dita.html. Of course, if the XML ends up being DITA or DocBook, you can publish that through FrameMaker (or lots of other tools). I hope other list members will be able to add to these thoughts... You could also try asking the question on the Yahoo dita-users group at http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/dita-users/. There are people there with all kinds of experience, and I'm sure someone will have some suggestions. Roger Roger Shuttleworth Technical Documentation AV-BASE Systems Inc. 1000 Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200 London, Ontario N5V 3S4 Tel. 519 691-0919 ext. 330 _ From: rebecca officer [mailto:rebecca.offi...@alliedtelesis.co.nz] To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 02:02:53 -0400 Subject: Single sourcing from Frame and a wiki ... or something ... Hi everyone Our docs team (4 of us) creates a many-thousand-page multi-chapter user manual in unstructured Frame. Lots of tables and cross-refs. Conditional text used to publish several variants. Published as PDFs a couple of times a year, delivered online. And the engineers (about 80) have a wiki that's a mish-mash of internal feature development info, some of which ends up in the user manual. I've been asked to make the user manual and the internal docs use the same source, which both writers and engineers would write. We want to work collaboratively, stop duplicating effort and come much closer to real-time updates. I'll need to include version control, content re-use, status tagging (e.g. draft/final), read-only access, and delivery as PDF and HTML. While I'm at it, I'd like to do automated builds and publish ebooks. The engineers would like the wiki to be the source. The writers want to stay with FM. I'm prepared to make everyone change tools (*grin*) but only if we have to. As a complicating factor, the engineers are all on Linux. Getting an FM licence per engineer would blow my budget (Adobe, how about selling a site licence???), and they'd have to run it in Virtual Box. I'm not seeing a happy ending there. I've got plenty of implementation time and can lay my mitts on a programmer or two. Budget's not yet set but prob around $20K. So ... Does anyone know of a good tool for round-tripping Framemaker -- Wiki? Should I be looking at XML? Any other thoughts on how I should tackle this? Many thanks Rebecca NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to
RE: Japanese in generated indexes
Thanks, Richard. Sorry, it should have occurred to be to state the platform and FrameMaker versions: Windows 7 and FrameMaker 9. I will look into installing a Japanese display language on the necessary computers. We can hope that will solve the problem. Marc -Original Message- From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 7:29 AM To: Marc Betz; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Japanese in generated indexes Marc Betz wrote: In documentation for a recently acquired product, we have FrameMaker documents in Japanese. This is my first experience in working with non- English documents. The documents have these characteristics: • On my system, at least, whatever font was originally used for Japanese is substituted by the Meiryo font, which is distributed on Windows 7 systems. The console has lines such as this: The ‰l‰r ‰oúͩ Font Family is not available. Meiryo will be used in this session. • Both the documents and the generated index look all right. • However, in the Markers pod, all of the index entries are gibberish, which I have also confirmed in individual markers. It seems odd that the text would be incorrect in the markers but correct in the generated index, but that is what I am seeing. • If I generate a marker list using the ixgen utility, I get the same gibberish as in the Markers pod. • Although beyond the scope of this particular list, when these documents are generated into WebWorks Help documents using WebWorks Express (through stationary developed in WebWorks ePublisher of course), the index also displays gibberish. My best guess is this: the markers, Makers pod, and ixgen all fail to substitute an available Japanese font for the marker text. Arial appears to be the font being used. But when the index is generated, FrameMaker does substitute a Japanese font in this document. So my question to you all: does anyone who works with Japanese documents know to induce FrameMaker to use a Japanese font in markers, and the Markers pod? If you use ixgen, do you know how to obtain proper Japanese text in its generated marker list? Someone with more than my limited experience may be able to address your specific questions -- but they haven't yet, so I'll throw this out. :-) First, it's always a good idea to specify the environment -- at least FM version and OS version. When dealing with Asian languages, it matters a lot whether you're on a pre-Unicode version of FM. Second, you undoubtedly need to install support for Japanese in Windows (and that alone may solve the gibberish problem). -- In Windows XP, go to Control Panel Regional and Language Options. On the Languages tab, check Install files for East Asian languages and click OK (you probably need your Windows install disk or CAB files -- I can't remember). -- In Windows 7, go to Control Panel Region and Language. On the Keyboards and Languages tab, click How can I install additional languages? for help. In a corporate environment, you may need assistance from your IT department. HTH to at least get you started. Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Searching the archive
Framers, I mostly just lurk here, but I need to find an answer to a question that I know has been discussed. Unfortunately, I can't find how to search old posts or archives. What am I missing? Jay Mahler ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Searching the archive
You can use Google to search the archives. Just follow your search term with site:frameusers.com. Examples: DITA site:frameusers.com Save as PDF site:frameusers.com Mike Wickham ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Unexpected event
Have a quick and full recovery, Rick. -avraham On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Shmuel Wolfson wrote: > Hi Avrohom, > > You sent it to the wrong person :) > > Regards, > Shmuel Wolfson > 052-763-7133 > > On 21-Jun-12 6:50 PM, Avraham Makeler wrote: > > Have a quick and full recovery, Rick. > > -avraham > > > > On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Shmuel Wolfson wrote: > >> Have a speedy recovery. >> >> Regards, >> Shmuel Wolfson >> 052-763-7133 >> >> >> On 20-Jun-12 3:07 PM, Rick Quatro wrote: >> >>> Hi Framers, >>> >>> I hesitate to put this on the list, but I have been around the FrameMaker >>> community for a long time, and this is the only contact I have with some >>> of >>> you. Also, in light of Bruce Foster's sudden disappearance last year, I >>> thought it would be appropriate to post this. >>> >>> Hi Everyone, >>> >>> As many of you know, I was supposed to be on vacation this week, cycling >>> across New York State with 17 other guys. During my last few training >>> rides, >>> I experienced some discomfort in my chest. It was a concern because I am >>> in >>> pretty good shape with almost 800 miles on the bike so far this summer. I >>> had a stress test on Friday, and the results showed an 80% chance of a >>> blockage in one of my cardiac arteries. Monday I went into the hospital >>> for >>> an angiogram, with the anticipation of having the blockage opened and a >>> stent put in. However, the test showed a couple of areas of blockage, one >>> being in an area that can't be opened with a stent. So on Wednesday >>> around >>> 12:45 pm, I am going to have open heart surgery with at least a double >>> bypass. I will be in the hospital for 3-5 days and hopefully experience a >>> quick recovery at home. I should be back to work late next week. >>> >>> Those of you who know me well understand that I have a deep abiding >>> relationship with Jesus Christ. I received Him as my Savior on April 6, >>> 1984 >>> when I was twenty-five years old. Because He has forgiven me of my sins, >>> I >>> know that when I die, I will be with Him in heaven. I am still a sinner >>> and >>> don't deserve heaven, but because of His death on the cross and >>> subsequent >>> resurrection, He gives eternal life to those who receive Him by faith. >>> >>> That said, I am still fairly young (53), and have some young kids left to >>> raise. So, if you are given to prayer, please pray for Sherry and I this >>> Wednesday. Finally, thank you all for being a part of my life. The great >>> people that I work with is an important part of making my work so >>> satisfying. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> Rick >>> >>> Rick Quatro >>> Carmen Publishing Inc. >>> 585-283-5045 >>> rick at frameexpert.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> >>> >>> You are currently subscribed to framers as shmuelw1 at gmail.com. >>> >>> >>> Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >>> framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com >>> or visit >>> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit >>> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >>> >>> >> >> ___ >> >> >> You are currently subscribed to framers as amakeler at gmail.com. >> >> >> Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com >> or visit >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/amakeler%40gmail.com >> >> >> Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >> > > > > -- > Regards, > > avraham > ~ > (+972) (0)54-3084886 > > > "Mercy on all, coz everyone's fighting some sort of battle" > > > > -- Regards, avraham ~ (+972) (0)54-3084886 "Mercy on all, coz everyone's fighting some sort of battle" -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20120627/0bb5c717/attachment.html>
Saving Frame 10 files in batch to Frame 7
Dear Framers, Framemaker 10 + Framemaker 7.2 + Framescript 5.2R1p248 Am I correct that for saving Framemaker 10 files to Framemaker 7, in batch, I need to pass by MIF7, right? In Framemaker 10, I have a script that saves all my Framemaker 10 files from a book to MIF7. In Framemaker 7.2, I then use another script to save a folder of MIFs to FM7. I then get a lot of opcode errors in the console: (13362): Invalid opcode: XRefSrcElemNonUniqueId. --- Skipping these characters:> -- Done skipping.MIF: "C:\temp\xxx.mif" (13363): Invalid opcode: XRefAltText. --- Skipping these characters:> -- Done skipping.MIF: "C:\temp\xxx.mif" (13364): Invalid opcode: XRefApiClient. --- Skipping these characters:< XRefClientName > < XRefClientType > > -- Done skipping.MIF: "C:\temp\xxx.mif" The files then open with Framemaker 7 but links between different documents of the same book do not work any more. Can someone help? Thanks in advance, Tom Tom De Rouck SGS Documentation Services Junior Project Manager SGS Belgium NV Derbystraat 243 B-9051 - Gent E-mail : tom.derouck at sgs.com<mailto:tom.derouck at sgs.com> Information in this email and any attachments is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual(s) to whom it is addressed or otherwise directed. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Company. Finally, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The Company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. All SGS services are rendered in accordance with the applicable SGS conditions of service available on request and accessible at http://www.sgs.com/en/Terms-and-Conditions.aspx -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20120627/7c66b104/attachment.html>
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Japanese in generated indexes
Marc Betz wrote: > In documentation for a recently acquired product, we have FrameMaker > documents in Japanese. This is my first experience in working with non- > English documents. The documents have these characteristics: > > ? On my system, at least, whatever font was originally used for > Japanese is substituted by the Meiryo font, which is distributed on > Windows 7 systems. The console has lines such as this: > The "?l?r ?o" Font Family is not available. > "Meiryo" will be used in this session. > ? Both the documents and the generated index look all right. > ? However, in the Markers pod, all of the index entries are gibberish, > which I have also confirmed in individual markers. It seems odd that > the text would be incorrect in the markers but correct in the generated > index, but that is what I am seeing. > ? If I generate a marker list using the ixgen utility, I get the same > gibberish as in the Markers pod. > ? Although beyond the scope of this particular list, when these > documents are generated into WebWorks Help documents using WebWorks > Express (through stationary developed in WebWorks ePublisher of > course), the index also displays gibberish. > > My best guess is this: the markers, Makers pod, and ixgen all fail to > substitute an available Japanese font for the marker text. Arial > appears to be the font being used. But when the index is generated, > FrameMaker does substitute a Japanese font in this document. > > So my question to you all: does anyone who works with Japanese > documents know to induce FrameMaker to use a Japanese font in markers, > and the Markers pod? If you use ixgen, do you know how to obtain proper > Japanese text in its generated marker list? Someone with more than my limited experience may be able to address your specific questions -- but they haven't yet, so I'll throw this out. :-) First, it's always a good idea to specify the environment -- at least FM version and OS version. When dealing with Asian languages, it matters a lot whether you're on a pre-Unicode version of FM. Second, you undoubtedly need to install support for Japanese in Windows (and that alone may solve the gibberish problem). -- In Windows XP, go to Control Panel > Regional and Language Options. On the Languages tab, check Install files for East Asian languages and click OK (you probably need your Windows install disk or CAB files -- I can't remember). -- In Windows 7, go to Control Panel > Region and Language. On the Keyboards and Languages tab, click "How can I install additional languages?" for help. In a corporate environment, you may need assistance from your IT department. HTH to at least get you started. Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 --
Single sourcing from Frame and a wiki ... or something ...
>You may want to look at the Confluence wiki. I know that there is a DITA > >Confluence tool (Dita2Wiki?) and WebWorks ePublisher will also convert FM to >Confluence. However, I don?t know if it?s possible to go the other way, or to >round-trip content between FM DITA and Confluence. ?According to Sarah >Maddox?s book on wikis, Confluence will import and export DocBook XML so that >might be another option. >I?m sure others will comment on this. >Regards, >Keith I was also going to suggest WebWorks ePublisher. It can ingest FM, Word, and DITA files (if you have all of the appropriate adapters). In fact, you can combine all three input formats in the same project. Can the developers author in Word? Or can you export Word files from the wiki? Nadine
Ann: ExtendScript for FrameMaker 10 of the Week
'Creating backgrounds for graphic objects' Graphic objects like straight lines or arrows are used to emphasize certain properties in an imported graphic, e.g. as legends. One click and ... More information: http://www.finalyser.com/help/#page/Finalyser%2520Online-Help/extendscripts.xml.35.4.html Download and try it: http://finalyser-shop.com - Georg
Ann: Saving Frame 10 files in batch to Frame 7
Hi Tom, please test following feature in Finalyser: You will find following menu: Book transfer is an archive Plug-in, FM <-> MIF Save Book to MIF 10.0. and MIF 7.0 (and back to FM). If you want to save many FM files or book in a book, then you could save to MIF much files. Online Help FM <-> MIF: http://www.finalyser.com/help/#page/Finalyser%2520Online-Help/FM_%2520to _MIF.12.1.html Download and Try Finalyser with all Plug-ins and ExtendScripts: http://finalyser-shop.com - Georg Your question: Saving Frame 10 files in batch to Frame 7 Dear Framers, Framemaker 10 + Framemaker 7.2 + Framescript 5.2R1p248 Am I correct that for saving Framemaker 10 files to Framemaker 7, in batch, I need to pass by MIF7, right? In Framemaker 10, I have a script that saves all my Framemaker 10 files from a book to MIF7. In Framemaker 7.2, I then use another script to save a folder of MIFs to FM7. I then get a lot of opcode errors in the console: (13362): Invalid opcode: XRefSrcElemNonUniqueId. --- Skipping these characters:> -- Done skipping.MIF: "C:\temp\xxx.mif" (13363): Invalid opcode: XRefAltText. --- Skipping these characters:> -- Done skipping.MIF: "C:\temp\xxx.mif" (13364): Invalid opcode: XRefApiClient. --- Skipping these characters:< XRefClientName > < XRefClientType > > -- Done skipping.MIF: "C:\temp\xxx.mif" The files then open with Framemaker 7 but links between different documents of the same book do not work any more. Can someone help? Thanks in advance, Tom Tom De Rouck SGS Documentation Services Junior Project Manager SGS Belgium NV Derbystraat 243 B-9051 - Gent E-mail : tom.derouck at sgs.com <mailto:tom.derouck at sgs.com> -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20120627/f58b5352/attachment.html> -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/png Size: 14248 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20120627/f58b5352/attachment.png>
AW: Single sourcing from Frame and a wiki ... or something ...
Hi Rebecca, there is WebWorks ePublisher (Trial: http://www.webworks.com/Tour/Try_ePublisher) with several output formats like: CHM, REVERB, Eclipse Help, ... and Wiki like Media Wiki, MoinMoin and Confluence. Input formats could be MS-Word, Adobe FrameMaker and DITA. We are also SW-Vendor and the authors write in FrameMaker (DITA), generate content in a Wiki (sample: http://www.make-a-muffin.de/wiki/index.php/SQUIDDS-TB_de-Sonderzeichen.x ml - here in German) and after released we generate an online-help format with WebWorks ePublisher too (sample: http://www.finalyser.com/help/#page/Finalyser%2520Online-Help/special_ch aracters.xml.26.1.html - here in English) Note: There are different results from WebWorks ePublisher for the different wiki formats. - Georg Your question: Single sourcing from Frame and a wiki ... or something ... Hi everyone Our docs team (4 of us) creates a many-thousand-page multi-chapter user manual in unstructured Frame. Lots of tables and cross-refs. Conditional text used to publish several variants. Published as PDFs a couple of times a year, delivered online. And the engineers (about 80) have a wiki that's a mish-mash of internal feature development info, some of which ends up in the user manual. I've been asked to make the user manual and the internal docs use the same source, which both writers and engineers would write. We want to work collaboratively, stop duplicating effort and come much closer to real-time updates. I'll need to include version control, content re-use, status tagging (e.g. draft/final), read-only access, and delivery as PDF and HTML. While I'm at it, I'd like to do automated builds and publish ebooks. The engineers would like the wiki to be the source. The writers want to stay with FM. I'm prepared to make everyone change tools (*grin*) but only if we have to. As a complicating factor, the engineers are all on Linux. Getting an FM licence per engineer would blow my budget (Adobe, how about selling a site licence???), and they'd have to run it in Virtual Box. I'm not seeing a happy ending there. I've got plenty of implementation time and can lay my mitts on a programmer or two. Budget's not yet set but prob around $20K. So ... Does anyone know of a good tool for round-tripping Framemaker <--> Wiki? Should I be looking at XML? Any other thoughts on how I should tackle this? Many thanks Rebecca -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20120627/11c390ef/attachment.html>
Single sourcing from Frame and a wiki ... or something ...
Hi Rebecca While reading your post I was thinking, "XML" - and then you asked the question right at the end. You don't say which wiki the engineers are using; that would be an important factor. Some of what you are looking for can be done using FrameMaker and DITA. The engineers would soon learn the DTD (I'm told that engineers like learning stuff like that). You and your writers would have a significant learning curve too, and it would take several months to implement. There is a plugin for Confluence wiki (DITA2Confluence) that will publish a ditamap and all its referenced content to wiki pages. But it is only a one-way transfer; you can't capture changes made on the wiki back to your FrameMaker source. And in the meantime Confluence 4 has switched from using wiki markup to using XHTML, so the plugin may not work with the current version of Confluence. (I'm sure there is work going on to remedy that.). The pathway from FrameMaker to wiki is not too difficult; it is the other direction (your engineer source) that will be the problem. In your situation I would be looking at more radical solutions. What about publishing your user manual through the wiki? Most wikis can output PDF too, though it will not be as pretty as that provided by FrameMaker. Instead of sticking with FrameMaker, I'd be thinking in terms of a text-based source (XHTML or XML), and tools that can convert from wiki to XML. One such is the Mylyn Project at http://www.eclipse.org/mylyn. Seehttp://greensopinion.blogspot.com/2008/11/mylyn-wikitext-targets-oasis-dita.html. Of course, if the XML ends up being DITA or DocBook, you can publish that through FrameMaker (or lots of other tools). I hope other list members will be able to add to these thoughts... You could also try asking the question on the Yahoo dita-users group at http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/dita-users/. There are people there with all kinds of experience, and I'm sure someone will have some suggestions. Roger Roger Shuttleworth Technical Documentation AV-BASE Systems Inc. 1000 Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200 London, Ontario N5V 3S4 Tel. 519 691-0919 ext. 330 _ From: rebecca officer [mailto:rebecca.offi...@alliedtelesis.co.nz] To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Sent: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 02:02:53 -0400 Subject: Single sourcing from Frame and a wiki ... or something ... Hi everyone Our docs team (4 of us) creates a many-thousand-page multi-chapter user manual in unstructured Frame. Lots of tables and cross-refs. Conditional text used to publish several variants. Published as PDFs a couple of times a year, delivered online. And the engineers (about 80) have a wiki that's a mish-mash of internal feature development info, some of which ends up in the user manual. I've been asked to make the user manual and the internal docs use the same source, which both writers and engineers would write. We want to work collaboratively, stop duplicating effort and come much closer to real-time updates. I'll need to include version control, content re-use, status tagging (e.g. draft/final), read-only access, and delivery as PDF and HTML. While I'm at it, I'd like to do automated builds and publish ebooks. The engineers would like the wiki to be the source. The writers want to stay with FM. I'm prepared to make everyone change tools (*grin*) but only if we have to. As a complicating factor, the engineers are all on Linux. Getting an FM licence per engineer would blow my budget (Adobe, how about selling a site licence???), and they'd have to run it in Virtual Box. I'm not seeing a happy ending there. I've got plenty of implementation time and can lay my mitts on a programmer or two. Budget's not yet set but prob around $20K. So ... Does anyone know of a good tool for round-tripping Framemaker <--> Wiki? Should I be looking at XML? Any other thoughts on how I should tackle this? Many thanks Rebecca NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20120627/de852a2c/attachment.html>
Japanese in generated indexes
Thanks, Richard. Sorry, it should have occurred to be to state the platform and FrameMaker versions: Windows 7 and FrameMaker 9. I will look into installing a Japanese display language on the necessary computers. We can hope that will solve the problem. Marc -Original Message- From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 7:29 AM To: Marc Betz; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Japanese in generated indexes Marc Betz wrote: > In documentation for a recently acquired product, we have FrameMaker > documents in Japanese. This is my first experience in working with non- > English documents. The documents have these characteristics: > > ? On my system, at least, whatever font was originally used for > Japanese is substituted by the Meiryo font, which is distributed on > Windows 7 systems. The console has lines such as this: > The "?l?r ?o" Font Family is not available. > "Meiryo" will be used in this session. > ? Both the documents and the generated index look all right. > ? However, in the Markers pod, all of the index entries are gibberish, > which I have also confirmed in individual markers. It seems odd that > the text would be incorrect in the markers but correct in the generated > index, but that is what I am seeing. > ? If I generate a marker list using the ixgen utility, I get the same > gibberish as in the Markers pod. > ? Although beyond the scope of this particular list, when these > documents are generated into WebWorks Help documents using WebWorks > Express (through stationary developed in WebWorks ePublisher of > course), the index also displays gibberish. > > My best guess is this: the markers, Makers pod, and ixgen all fail to > substitute an available Japanese font for the marker text. Arial > appears to be the font being used. But when the index is generated, > FrameMaker does substitute a Japanese font in this document. > > So my question to you all: does anyone who works with Japanese > documents know to induce FrameMaker to use a Japanese font in markers, > and the Markers pod? If you use ixgen, do you know how to obtain proper > Japanese text in its generated marker list? Someone with more than my limited experience may be able to address your specific questions -- but they haven't yet, so I'll throw this out. :-) First, it's always a good idea to specify the environment -- at least FM version and OS version. When dealing with Asian languages, it matters a lot whether you're on a pre-Unicode version of FM. Second, you undoubtedly need to install support for Japanese in Windows (and that alone may solve the gibberish problem). -- In Windows XP, go to Control Panel > Regional and Language Options. On the Languages tab, check Install files for East Asian languages and click OK (you probably need your Windows install disk or CAB files -- I can't remember). -- In Windows 7, go to Control Panel > Region and Language. On the Keyboards and Languages tab, click "How can I install additional languages?" for help. In a corporate environment, you may need assistance from your IT department. HTH to at least get you started. Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-903-6372 --
Saving Frame 10 files in batch to Frame 7
I'm not sure if this is a bug in Fm10 or if that is the way it is designed to work. XRefAltText, XRefClientName, XRefClientType and XRefSrcElemNoUniqueId are all properties that were added to FM in version 9. However, when I used Fm10 to save an Fm10 document as Mif 7.0, the mif file contains these invalid properties. This explains why you are getting those messages when opening the Mif7 document generated by Fm10. I tried this myself using the FM10 UI (not FrameScript) and I get the same results. As far as the bad links are concerned, are the files in the same relative position? You might have to open a mif file using a text editor and look at the mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of de Rouck, Tom (Gent) Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 8:13 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Saving Frame 10 files in batch to Frame 7 Dear Framers, Framemaker 10 + Framemaker 7.2 + Framescript 5.2R1p248 Am I correct that for saving Framemaker 10 files to Framemaker 7, in batch, I need to pass by MIF7, right? In Framemaker 10, I have a script that saves all my Framemaker 10 files from a book to MIF7. In Framemaker 7.2, I then use another script to save a folder of MIFs to FM7. I then get a lot of opcode errors in the console: (13362): Invalid opcode: XRefSrcElemNonUniqueId. --- Skipping these characters:> -- Done skipping.MIF: "C:\temp\xxx.mif" (13363): Invalid opcode: XRefAltText. --- Skipping these characters:> -- Done skipping.MIF: "C:\temp\xxx.mif" (13364): Invalid opcode: XRefApiClient. --- Skipping these characters:< XRefClientName > < XRefClientType > > -- Done skipping.MIF: "C:\temp\xxx.mif" The files then open with Framemaker 7 but links between different documents of the same book do not work any more. Can someone help? Thanks in advance, Tom Tom De Rouck SGS Documentation Services Junior Project Manager SGS Belgium NV Derbystraat 243 B-9051 - Gent E-mail :<mailto:tom.derouck at sgs.com> tom.derouck at sgs.com Information in this email and any attachments is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual(s) to whom it is addressed or otherwise directed. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Company. Finally, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The Company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. All SGS services are rendered in accordance with the applicable SGS conditions of service available on request and accessible at http://www.sgs.com/en/Terms-and-Conditions.aspx -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20120627/7a7f535a/attachment.html>
Searching the archive
Framers, I mostly just lurk here, but I need to find an answer to a question that I know has been discussed. Unfortunately, I can't find how to search old posts or archives. What am I missing? Jay Mahler -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20120627/7ea93b17/attachment.html>
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You can use Google to search the archives. Just follow your search term with "site:frameusers.com". Examples: DITA site:frameusers.com "Save as PDF" site:frameusers.com Mike Wickham
