RE: Inconsistent Conditional Text Settings that won't go away

2013-01-16 Thread Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp
Hello Fei,

you could try to set the conditional show/hide settings from within the book 
file. Then it will update al (selected) files in the book with the same 
settings.


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Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but related in a way!

2013-01-16 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Hi, all (particularly Dov Isaacs, as I seem to remember that you know a lot 
about Adobe fonts).

Over the years, I bought a number of fonts from Adobe (some of them were quite 
expensive too) for use with FrameMaker. Of course, since these were all 
purchased _more_ than a decade ago, they are all Type 1 PostScript fonts (i.e, 
before the TrueType and OpenType formats even existed).

Now, I assume that, since my purchases, these fonts have _probably_ been 
improved and tweaked quite a bit. Plus, there are newer versions in the 
OpenType format now for many of these fonts (like Adobe Caslon, Adobe Caslon 
Expert, Adobe Garamond, Adobe Garamond Expert, Tekton ... just to name a few of 
the ones I purchased)!


1.  How can I upgrade (so to speak) these fonts to the latest - 
presumably OpenType? - versions of the same fonts without having to buy them 
all over again? I have not seen anything on the Adobe site that would seem to 
allow such an upgrade. Or would it be considered a supportable download, 
perhaps? :)

Buying new versions these would be quite an expensive proposition, so I am 
hopeful that you all have some recommendations here!
Also, some of these purchases were of Adobe Multiple Master Fonts (or some 
such name, as I recall). Since the old Adobe Type Manager is not supported 
under Windows 7, I don't know how to use these with Windows applications 
anymore - let alone FrameMaker.


2.  How do you all deal with these older Adobe Multiple Master Font 
formats? Am I even asking the right question here?

Thanks much for any recommendations/suggestions you all may have.

Z

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RE: Frame to Robo Cross Refs: Conversion Unpredictable

2013-01-16 Thread Gillian Flato
I don't have these problems. Are you importing your Frame files or linking them?

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Subject: TCS: Frame to Robo Cross Refs: Conversion Unpredictable


Hello,



I'm using FrameMaker 11 and RoboHelp 10 in Adobe Technical Communication Suite 
(TCS) 4. My FrameMaker book is linked to RoboHelp.



Assume I have a cross ref like this in Frame:



See ABC on page 101.



RoboHelp is supposed to convert the cross ref into a hyperlink like this:



See ABC.



Most of my cross-references are converted correctly, but some are not. (The on 
page 101 is still there in RoboHelp and the generated WebHelp project.)



In Frame, two references may use the same cross reference format... but 
RoboHelp converts the one cross ref OK but not the other. In fact, I've even 
copied a cross ref and pasted it into another location in the Frame file. The 
original cross ref converts OK, but the copied one does not!



Anyone else encountered this problem? Any solutions? Thanks much.



Keith




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RE: Frame to Robo Cross Refs: Conversion Unpredictable

2013-01-16 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
Two avenues of attack for this - one is to examine the places it worked  where 
it didn't in both the resulting RH topic  source FM file - are some xrefs by 
paragraph and others by marker tag? Conditional text at play here? There has to 
be something going on in or around the xref to make it convert right/wrong 
sometimes.
The second area would be to do an experiment where you create a new project in 
RH, use your .isf file from your linked project, and do an import of the FM 
content (checking to see that all the conversion settings are set to see 
'ABC') and see if linking vs. importing is at the source of the problem.


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Subject: TCS: Frame to Robo Cross Refs: Conversion Unpredictable


Hello,



I'm using FrameMaker 11 and RoboHelp 10 in Adobe Technical Communication Suite 
(TCS) 4. My FrameMaker book is linked to RoboHelp.



Assume I have a cross ref like this in Frame:



See ABC on page 101.



RoboHelp is supposed to convert the cross ref into a hyperlink like this:



See ABC.



Most of my cross-references are converted correctly, but some are not. (The on 
page 101 is still there in RoboHelp and the generated WebHelp project.)



In Frame, two references may use the same cross reference format... but 
RoboHelp converts the one cross ref OK but not the other. In fact, I've even 
copied a cross ref and pasted it into another location in the Frame file. The 
original cross ref converts OK, but the copied one does not!



Anyone else encountered this problem? Any solutions? Thanks much.



Keith




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Re: FrameMaker9 / XML

2013-01-16 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi Ian

This is what I would do:

1. Quick fix: use MIF2Go: www.mif2go.com
2. Long-term solution: use DITA, and you can also use MIF2Go to convert
your FM files to DITA.


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Re: Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but related in a way!

2013-01-16 Thread Mike Wickham

I, too, wish there were an upgrade path for fonts.

Though I haven't tried them, something else to look at might be the 
various font conversion utilities. Searching on font conversion turned 
up several free online utilities. You can also buy professional 
conversion utilities at http://www.fontlab.com.


Mike Wickham


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RE: Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but ... related in a way!

2013-01-16 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Thanks for that link, Mike. I will take a look at that site.

Although I hazard a guess that this would get me the same info in the new 
formats, but not really deal, of course, with font corrections/tweaks that the 
Adobe Designer might have made, or Unicode additions, etc.

Z

 I, too, wish there were an upgrade path for fonts.

 Though I haven't tried them, something else to look at might be the various 
 font conversion utilities. Searching on font conversion turned up several 
 free online utilities. You can also buy professional conversion utilities at 
 http://www.fontlab.com.

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Re: Shift key not working when adjusting a line?

2013-01-16 Thread Stuart Rogers

On 15/01/2013 3:48 AM, Harro de Jong wrote:


I'm trying to adjust a line, using the shift key to constrain the line
to horizontal or vertical.

I click on one of the endpoints of an existing line, drag it to its new
position and then press Shift to constrain the line. But as soon as I
press Shift, the endpoint is 'dropped' at the mouse position instead
(with the resulting line being at whatever angle, instead of being
constrained to 0 or 90 deg.).

It works correctly when I draw a new line, but only if I do this:
1. press Shift
2. click and drag to draw the line.

if I do this:
1. click to define the starting point
2. press Shift
the endpoint is again set as soon as I press Shift.

FM9.0.237, Windows 7

I can't find anything weird in my configuration. A colleague with a
similar installation has the same problem.

ISTR this working correctly in FM 7, but it's been a few years since I
last used that. Is this a bug in FM9?




I don't remember the behaviour in FM 7. In FM 10, you must press Shift 
*before* clicking or dragging, either to create a new line, or to adjust 
an existing handle.  When adjusting a handle after pressing shift, it is 
the motion of the handle, not the angle of the line, that is constrained 
to vertical or horizontal.


HTH,


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Jumping toolbar

2013-01-16 Thread Nancy Allison
I am using FM 10 on a Windows 7 system.Here's a new, weird behavior: When I click through the chapters in a book file, a toolbar moves.S[, when I click on the path at the top of the book file, the top row of toolbars looks like this:Red FM icon, followed from left to right with File Edit . . . . Help, then "UI Visibility" Icon, "Arrange Documents" Icon, and "Screen Mode" icon.When I doubleclick a chapter file in the book, the last three icons jump to a separate row, by themselves, at the top of the screen.As I click through the chapters to open them, the three icons jump up and down depending onwhich click of the double-click I'm clicking.It's making me dizzy. Any ideas as to why this is happening and how to stop it?--Nancy
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Re: TCS: Frame to Robo Cross Refs: Conversion Unpredictable

2013-01-16 Thread Matt Sullivan
You can convert using 2 methods:
map xref format in RH via File  Project Settings  FrameMaker Document  Edit 
 Cross Reference. Your xref should be set to paratext, not [Source].
manually modify the cross-ref format by creating a conversion template and 
applying it in RH via File  Project Settings   Apply Conversion Template
Which are you using? Have you tried the other?


-Matt

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On Jan 15, 2013, at 7:58 AM, Keith Hansen keith.han...@opensolutions.com 
wrote:

 I'm using FrameMaker 11 and RoboHelp 10 in Adobe Technical Communication 
 Suite (TCS) 4. My FrameMaker book is linked to RoboHelp.
  
 Assume I have a cross ref like this in Frame:
  
 See ABC on page 101.
  
 RoboHelp is supposed to convert the cross ref into a hyperlink like this:
  
 See ABC.
  
 Most of my cross-references are converted correctly, but some are not. (The 
 on page 101 is still there in RoboHelp and the generated WebHelp project.)
  
 In Frame, two references may use the same cross reference format... but 
 RoboHelp converts the one cross ref OK but not the other. In fact, I’ve even 
 copied a cross ref and pasted it into another location in the Frame file. The 
 original cross ref converts OK, but the copied one does not!

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RE: TCS Frame to Robo Cross Refs: Conversion Unpredictable

2013-01-16 Thread Alexandra Duffy
Hello Keith,
Yes, I have the same problem. This is a new problem in TCS 4 that did not exist 
in TCS3.
Alan Houser posted the same observation on the TCS-users list last year. He 
said he noticed that if the target was after the x-ref, the conversion was 
correct, but if the target was earlier in the documentation set than the x-ref, 
the page number was incorrectly included in RH.
I did a test and found the same. I posted a bug to Adobe back in AUGUST and I 
heard from a RH engineer. He requested a sample project showing the problem, 
and I complied.  I keep thinking, any day now, there will be a RH update and 
this will be fixed, but not yet!
My workaround is to change all FrameMaker x-refs to $paratext before linking 
to RH. This is fast enough to do by importing x-ref formats to all chapters, 
but sometimes I forget and have to regenerate the whole project again.
Alexandra 

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RE: Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but related in a way!

2013-01-16 Thread Dov Isaacs
With regards to updating old versions of Adobe fonts ...

(1)For better or for worse, Adobe has never offered any upgrades for 
users of individual typefaces or full font families licensed from Adobe. This 
includes not only the original Type 1 fonts, but also Multiple Master and now 
OpenType fonts (yes, there have been significant updates and improvements in 
those fonts since they were first released over a dozen years ago). The only 
upgrades that Adobe offers are for licensees of the Adobe Font Folio products. 
(I will not even attempt to provide the business reasons for this or justify it 
any way, but those were the decisions made. FWIW, Adobe's policies in terms of 
font upgrades is fairly consistent with industry practice.)

(2)Originally, the OpenType format was also supposed to support a 
Multiple Master flavor of fonts, but this was dropped shortly before the first 
release of the OpenType fonts due to the objections of Microsoft who refused to 
support such a feature. When Adobe made the OpenType versions of the Type 1 
Multiple Master fonts, it made an individual font to match each and every one 
of the primary instances of the comparable Type 1 Multiple Master font in terms 
of weight, style, optical style, etc. In some cases, extra fonts were added to 
reflect common customized Multiple Master instances that were believed to be in 
use and of general usefulness to users. Migrating from Multiple Master to 
OpenType requires you to match the Type 1 Multiple Master font instance with 
the particular member of the comparable OpenType font family.

(3)With regards to converting fonts - let's say from Type 1 to 
OpenType, we strongly discourage that. Although this may sound self-serving and 
even assuming you use a product that preserves hinting and metrics, you gain 
virtually nothing from such conversions other than a repackaging of the font. 
In producing the OpenType version of its type library, quite a bit of work was 
done in the area of adjusting and correcting metrics, supporting Unicode, 
creating links that allow for automatic use of ligatures in page layout 
programs, easy access to alternative and swash characters, small caps, and old 
style figures, etc.

Given that Adobe hasn't release any Type 1 or Multiple Master fonts in a dozen 
years, from a business perspective, you can readily declare that your Type 1 
fonts from Adobe are fully depreciated. Adobe is not abandoning Type 1 support 
in any of its products (nor do we have any plans for such abandonment) and we 
absolutely cannot eliminate Type 1 and Multiple Master support for Acrobat (for 
the obvious reason that we will forever need to support embedded fonts in 
existing PDF files).

What I typically recommend is for users to continue to use their Type 1 fonts 
with existing documents and publications and add the OpenType fonts as 
necessary under any one or more of the following scenarios:

(1)You create a new publication (or artwork) or significantly modify 
the style of an existing publication (or artwork).

(2)You need to have cross-platform compatibility for editing.

(3)You need access to the typographical and multilingual features (via 
Unicode) of OpenType fonts.

Further note that the OpenType fonts from Adobe have different names (typically 
suffixed with either Std - standard character sets or Pro - extended character 
sets often with support for one or more non-Western Latin alphabets) than the 
Type 1 or Multiple Master fonts they replace. You will need to do some edit 
work to migrate an existing document to use of OpenType (note that this is 
where use of paragraph and character styles really pays off handsomely!). We 
purposely did this renaming in order to avoid any misperception of 100% 
compatibility of the Type 1 to OpenType migration. There is minor chance of 
text reflow, but also the possibility of problems with mapping of non-ASCII 
characters (this is especially true for all characters in fonts such as Symbol, 
Carta, Sonata, and Zapf Dingbats).

-Dov

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Subject: Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but 
related in a way!

Hi, all (particularly Dov Isaacs, as I seem to remember that you know a lot 
about Adobe fonts).

Over the years, I bought a number of 

LaTeX to MIF/MML

2013-01-16 Thread Alan T Litchfield
It is ok, but it misses a number of packages that are used commonly. I 
use it sometimes on simple documents only.

Alan

On 15/01/13 11:52 PM, Harro de Jong wrote:
> A quick search brings up this:
>
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/latex2rtf/
>
> which claims to convert LaTeX to RTF including style information, this might 
> yield a better conversion than LaTeX->PDF->RTF.
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Inconsistent Conditional Text Settings that won't go away

2013-01-16 Thread Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp
Hello Fei,

you could try to set the conditional show/hide settings from within the book 
file. Then it will update al (selected) files in the book with the same 
settings.


Vriendelijke groet / Kind regards,

Wim Hooghwinkel

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Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but related in a way!

2013-01-16 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Hi, all (particularly Dov Isaacs, as I seem to remember that you know a lot 
about Adobe fonts).

Over the years, I bought a number of fonts from Adobe (some of them were quite 
expensive too) for use with FrameMaker. Of course, since these were all 
purchased _more_ than a decade ago, they are all Type 1 PostScript fonts (i.e, 
before the TrueType and OpenType formats even existed).

Now, I assume that, since my purchases, these fonts have _probably_ been 
improved and tweaked quite a bit. Plus, there are newer versions in the 
OpenType format now for many of these fonts (like Adobe Caslon, Adobe Caslon 
Expert, Adobe Garamond, Adobe Garamond Expert, Tekton ... just to name a few of 
the ones I purchased)!


1.  How can I "upgrade" (so to speak) these fonts to the latest - 
presumably OpenType? - versions of the same fonts without having to buy them 
all over again? I have not seen anything on the Adobe site that would seem to 
allow such an upgrade. Or would it be considered a supportable download, 
perhaps? :)

Buying new versions these would be quite an expensive proposition, so I am 
hopeful that you all have some recommendations here!
Also, some of these purchases were of "Adobe Multiple Master" Fonts (or some 
such name, as I recall). Since the old Adobe Type Manager is not supported 
under Windows 7, I don't know how to use these with Windows applications 
anymore - let alone FrameMaker.


2.  How do you all deal with these older Adobe Multiple Master Font 
formats? Am I even asking the right question here?

Thanks much for any recommendations/suggestions you all may have.

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Frame to Robo Cross Refs: Conversion Unpredictable

2013-01-16 Thread Gillian Flato
I don't have these problems. Are you importing your Frame files or linking them?

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Keith Hansen
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 7:59 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: TCS: Frame to Robo Cross Refs: Conversion Unpredictable


Hello,



I'm using FrameMaker 11 and RoboHelp 10 in Adobe Technical Communication Suite 
(TCS) 4. My FrameMaker book is linked to RoboHelp.



Assume I have a cross ref like this in Frame:



See "ABC" on page 101.



RoboHelp is supposed to convert the cross ref into a hyperlink like this:



See "ABC".



Most of my cross-references are converted correctly, but some are not. (The "on 
page 101" is still there in RoboHelp and the generated WebHelp project.)



In Frame, two references may use the same cross reference format... but 
RoboHelp converts the one cross ref OK but not the other. In fact, I've even 
copied a cross ref and pasted it into another location in the Frame file. The 
original cross ref converts OK, but the copied one does not!



Anyone else encountered this problem? Any solutions? Thanks much.



Keith




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Frame to Robo Cross Refs: Conversion Unpredictable

2013-01-16 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
Two avenues of attack for this - one is to examine the places it worked & where 
it didn't in both the resulting RH topic & source FM file - are some xrefs by 
paragraph and others by marker tag? Conditional text at play here? There has to 
be something going on in or around the xref to make it convert right/wrong 
sometimes.
The second area would be to do an experiment where you create a new project in 
RH, use your .isf file from your linked project, and do an import of the FM 
content (checking to see that all the conversion settings are set to "see 
'ABC'") and see if linking vs. importing is at the source of the problem.


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Subject: TCS: Frame to Robo Cross Refs: Conversion Unpredictable


Hello,



I'm using FrameMaker 11 and RoboHelp 10 in Adobe Technical Communication Suite 
(TCS) 4. My FrameMaker book is linked to RoboHelp.



Assume I have a cross ref like this in Frame:



See "ABC" on page 101.



RoboHelp is supposed to convert the cross ref into a hyperlink like this:



See "ABC".



Most of my cross-references are converted correctly, but some are not. (The "on 
page 101" is still there in RoboHelp and the generated WebHelp project.)



In Frame, two references may use the same cross reference format... but 
RoboHelp converts the one cross ref OK but not the other. In fact, I've even 
copied a cross ref and pasted it into another location in the Frame file. The 
original cross ref converts OK, but the copied one does not!



Anyone else encountered this problem? Any solutions? Thanks much.



Keith




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FrameMaker9 / XML

2013-01-16 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi Ian

This is what I would do:

1. Quick fix: use MIF2Go: www.mif2go.com
2. Long-term solution: use DITA, and you can also use MIF2Go to convert
your FM files to DITA.


Cheers


-- 
Yves Barbion
www.scripto.nu
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Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but related in a way!

2013-01-16 Thread Mike Wickham
I, too, wish there were an upgrade path for fonts.

Though I haven't tried them, something else to look at might be the 
various font conversion utilities. Searching on "font conversion" turned 
up several free online utilities. You can also buy professional 
conversion utilities at http://www.fontlab.com.

Mike Wickham




Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but ... related in a way!

2013-01-16 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Thanks for that link, Mike. I will take a look at that site.

Although I hazard a guess that this would get me the same info in the new 
formats, but not really deal, of course, with font corrections/tweaks that the 
Adobe Designer might have made, or Unicode additions, etc.

Z

> I, too, wish there were an upgrade path for fonts.

> Though I haven't tried them, something else to look at might be the various 
> font conversion utilities. Searching on "font conversion" turned up several 
> free online utilities. You can also buy professional conversion utilities at 
> http://www.fontlab.com.

> Mike Wickham



Shift key not working when adjusting a line?

2013-01-16 Thread Stuart Rogers
On 15/01/2013 3:48 AM, Harro de Jong wrote:
>
> I'm trying to adjust a line, using the shift key to constrain the line
> to horizontal or vertical.
>
> I click on one of the endpoints of an existing line, drag it to its new
> position and then press Shift to constrain the line. But as soon as I
> press Shift, the endpoint is 'dropped' at the mouse position instead
> (with the resulting line being at whatever angle, instead of being
> constrained to 0 or 90 deg.).
>
> It works correctly when I draw a new line, but only if I do this:
> 1. press Shift
> 2. click and drag to draw the line.
>
> if I do this:
> 1. click to define the starting point
> 2. press Shift
> the endpoint is again set as soon as I press Shift.
>
> FM9.0.237, Windows 7
>
> I can't find anything weird in my configuration. A colleague with a
> similar installation has the same problem.
>
> ISTR this working correctly in FM 7, but it's been a few years since I
> last used that. Is this a bug in FM9?
>
>

I don't remember the behaviour in FM 7. In FM 10, you must press Shift 
*before* clicking or dragging, either to create a new line, or to adjust 
an existing handle.  When adjusting a handle after pressing shift, it is 
the motion of the handle, not the angle of the line, that is constrained 
to vertical or horizontal.

HTH,


-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com


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2013-01-16 Thread Nancy Allison
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TCS: Frame to Robo Cross Refs: Conversion Unpredictable

2013-01-16 Thread Matt Sullivan
You can convert using 2 methods:
map xref format in RH via File > Project Settings > FrameMaker Document > Edit 
> Cross Reference. Your xref should be set to , not [Source].
manually modify the cross-ref format by creating a conversion template and 
applying it in RH via File > Project Settings >  Apply Conversion Template
Which are you using? Have you tried the other?


-Matt

Matt Sullivan 
technical communication | online training | eLearning

twitter: @mattrsullivan
phone: 714 960-6840 

On Jan 15, 2013, at 7:58 AM, Keith Hansen  
wrote:

> I'm using FrameMaker 11 and RoboHelp 10 in Adobe Technical Communication 
> Suite (TCS) 4. My FrameMaker book is linked to RoboHelp.
>  
> Assume I have a cross ref like this in Frame:
>  
> See "ABC" on page 101.
>  
> RoboHelp is supposed to convert the cross ref into a hyperlink like this:
>  
> See "ABC".
>  
> Most of my cross-references are converted correctly, but some are not. (The 
> "on page 101" is still there in RoboHelp and the generated WebHelp project.)
>  
> In Frame, two references may use the same cross reference format... but 
> RoboHelp converts the one cross ref OK but not the other. In fact, I?ve even 
> copied a cross ref and pasted it into another location in the Frame file. The 
> original cross ref converts OK, but the copied one does not!

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TCS Frame to Robo Cross Refs: Conversion Unpredictable

2013-01-16 Thread Alexandra Duffy
Hello Keith,
Yes, I have the same problem. This is a new problem in TCS 4 that did not exist 
in TCS3.
Alan Houser posted the same observation on the TCS-users list last year. He 
said he noticed that if the target was after the x-ref, the conversion was 
correct, but if the target was earlier in the documentation set than the x-ref, 
the page number was incorrectly included in RH.
I did a test and found the same. I posted a bug to Adobe back in AUGUST and I 
heard from a RH engineer. He requested a sample project showing the problem, 
and I complied.  I keep thinking, any day now, there will be a RH update and 
this will be fixed, but not yet!
My workaround is to change all FrameMaker x-refs to <$paratext> before linking 
to RH. This is fast enough to do by importing x-ref formats to all chapters, 
but sometimes I forget and have to regenerate the whole project again.
Alexandra 



Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but related in a way!

2013-01-16 Thread Dov Isaacs
ember that you know a lot 
about Adobe fonts).

Over the years, I bought a number of fonts from Adobe (some of them were quite 
expensive too) for use with FrameMaker. Of course, since these were all 
purchased _more_ than a decade ago, they are all Type 1 PostScript fonts (i.e, 
before the TrueType and OpenType formats even existed).

Now, I assume that, since my purchases, these fonts have _probably_ been 
improved and tweaked quite a bit. Plus, there are newer versions in the 
OpenType format now for many of these fonts (like Adobe Caslon, Adobe Caslon 
Expert, Adobe Garamond, Adobe Garamond Expert, Tekton ... just to name a few of 
the ones I purchased)!


1.   How can I "upgrade" (so to speak) these fonts to the latest - 
presumably OpenType? - versions of the same fonts without having to buy them 
all over again? I have not seen anything on the Adobe site that would seem to 
allow such an upgrade. Or would it be considered a supportable download, 
perhaps? :)

Buying new versions these would be quite an expensive proposition, so I am 
hopeful that you all have some recommendations here!

Also, some of these purchases were of "Adobe Multiple Master" Fonts (or some 
such name, as I recall). Since the old Adobe Type Manager is not supported 
under Windows 7, I don't know how to use these with Windows applications 
anymore - let alone FrameMaker.


2.   How do you all deal with these older Adobe Multiple Master Font 
formats? Am I even asking the right question here?

Thanks much for any recommendations/suggestions you all may have.

Z


From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wickham
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 6:51 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but 
related in a way!


I, too, wish there were an upgrade path for fonts.



Though I haven't tried them, something else to look at might be the

various font conversion utilities. Searching on "font conversion" turned

up several free online utilities. You can also buy professional

conversion utilities at http://www.fontlab.com.



Mike Wickham
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FrameMaker 10.x and Windows 8?

2013-01-16 Thread Harding, Dan
I looked back through list discussions and I don't see any discussion of 
problems/questions/experiences using FrameMaker 10.x and Windows 8... actually 
I'm not seeing discussions of ANY version of Frame being used with Win8.

While I am still using Windows 7 Enterprise, I'm looking at a desktop upgrade 
later this year and depending on when that occurs, it very well may be that I 
am forced to use Windows 8 (organizational standards; I won't have an option to 
remain on Win7).

Any reports from the field?

Thanks in advance.

-Dan
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Frame to Robo Cross Refs: Conversion Unpredictable

2013-01-16 Thread Harpreet Singh Seehra
Hi Keith,

Try this,

Wherever  the Framemaker document or book is on your system, copy the complete 
stuff from there and paste it in Local Disk C:/ of the computer, make sure 
there is no folder tree like C:/documents/Keith/keith.fm...,the Framemaker 
document should be in the root folder without any folder tree like only in C:/

Once you have the Framemaker document there, open Robohelp and link the 
Framemaker document from the new location  C:/ and that should fix all your 
issues with XREF's.

Let me know it that worked or not.

Regards
Harpreet
Adobe Systems.

From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
Sent: 16 January 2013 19:25
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Frame to Robo Cross Refs: Conversion Unpredictable

Two avenues of attack for this - one is to examine the places it worked & where 
it didn't in both the resulting RH topic & source FM file - are some xrefs by 
paragraph and others by marker tag? Conditional text at play here? There has to 
be something going on in or around the xref to make it convert right/wrong 
sometimes.
The second area would be to do an experiment where you create a new project in 
RH, use your .isf file from your linked project, and do an import of the FM 
content (checking to see that all the conversion settings are set to "see 
'ABC'") and see if linking vs. importing is at the source of the problem.


From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers-bounces at 
lists.frameusers.com> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf 
Of Keith Hansen
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:59 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: TCS: Frame to Robo Cross Refs: Conversion Unpredictable

Hello,



I'm using FrameMaker 11 and RoboHelp 10 in Adobe Technical Communication Suite 
(TCS) 4. My FrameMaker book is linked to RoboHelp.



Assume I have a cross ref like this in Frame:



See "ABC" on page 101.



RoboHelp is supposed to convert the cross ref into a hyperlink like this:



See "ABC".



Most of my cross-references are converted correctly, but some are not. (The "on 
page 101" is still there in RoboHelp and the generated WebHelp project.)



In Frame, two references may use the same cross reference format... but 
RoboHelp converts the one cross ref OK but not the other. In fact, I've even 
copied a cross ref and pasted it into another location in the Frame file. The 
original cross ref converts OK, but the copied one does not!



Anyone else encountered this problem? Any solutions? Thanks much.



Keith




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Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but related in a way!

2013-01-16 Thread Craig Ede

And while we are on the topic of fonts and FrameMaker, can someone suggest a 
reasonable way to get the ZapfDingbat font cheaply, since the default FM 
installation often complains about this font not being available (even using 
their templates). BTW: I understand Adobe not wanting to license it with its 
products anymore, but the default replacement that FM substitutes is completely 
silly.

> From: Syed.Hosain at aeris.net 
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com 
> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 00:08:53 -0800 
> Subject: Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, 
> but related in a way! 
> 
> 
> Hi, all (particularly Dov Isaacs, as I seem to remember that you know a 
> lot about Adobe fonts)...
> 
> 


Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but ... related in a way!

2013-01-16 Thread Craig Ede

Adobe must have done business with them as they now own Macromedia's old 
product Fontographer.

Craig

> From: Syed.Hosain at aeris.net
> To: info at mikewickham.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 07:23:18 -0800
> Subject: RE: Updating older versions of Adobe fonts? Slightly off-topic, but 
> ... related in a way!
>
> Thanks for that link, Mike. I will take a look at that site.
> 


FrameMaker9 / XML

2013-01-16 Thread Robert Lauriston
I use MIF2Go. I can post my settings if you want them.

On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 12:37 AM, Ian McDonald  wrote:
> Hello fellow Framers,
>
> I'm looking to save small chunks of a FM9 file (9 chapter book, 600 pages)
> as XML for use in a standard text/content library.