Re: Frame 11 on MacBook Pro?

2013-05-15 Thread MikeyShine
Kristy let me know if you'd rather op for FM version 10. I can get you a copy.



On May 14, 2013, at 9:04 PM, Kristy Nolan kristy.no...@wnco.com wrote:

 Hi, guys!
 
 Thanks for the input! Update is that I have downloaded and installed Service 
 Pack 3 for my Windows XP, deleted all previous attempts at downloading Frame, 
 and re-downloaded the trial using Firefox. I made sure i was strictly on a 
 Windows side (no coherence). Result is still no Frame. I tried to ask the 
 online support at Adobe, but he took way too long to respond (and had to 
 catch a flight).
 
 I'll try again when I get back home (even though my trial clock is ticking). 
 Making it hard to rationalize the idea of purchasing this on my own dime. As 
 much as I love Frame, I may have to move to a different paradigm.
 
 Truly appreciate all the input!
 
 Kristy
 
 Kristy Nolan
 Central Pubs - Flight Ops
 
 On May 14, 2013, at 8:58 PM, MikeyShine mikeysh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Good call Jeff I had just assumed she downloaded it though the virtual 
 machine but I can def see where this could create a potential issue!
 
 
 On May 13, 2013, at 5:10 PM, Jeff Coatsworth 
 jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com wrote:
 
 image002.jpg
 What browser are you using to download it? You probably should use Firefox 
 from within the Windows virtual machine – I think Adobe is using 7Zip to 
 compress the files, so under WinXP you’ll need to install that to unzip it 
 (IIRC).
  
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Kristy Nolan
 Sent: May-13-13 4:47 PM
 To: FrameUsers List
 Subject: Frame 11 on MacBook Pro?
  
 Hi, all-
  
 Is anyone else running Frame 11 on a MacBook Pro? If so, how did you get it 
 to install? I am having trouble. I used to run Frame 7 on my old MacBook, 
 so know it has worked in the past. I was able to download the trial version 
 and have Parallels running. However when I install, it gets about 40% 
 complete and gives me an error about a file not extracting properly from 
 the archive and quits. I have tried re-downloading multiple times. I’ve 
 tried moving all the files to an Explorer window.
 
 Any other ideas? Please don't say move to a PC - that isn't happening. New 
 Mac, Windows XP.
  
 Cross-posted this to the FrameMaker LinkedIn page too.
  
 Thanks!
 Kristy
  
  
  
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Re: FM10 help broken?

2013-05-15 Thread Robert Lauriston
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/10.0/Using/framemaker_10_help.pdf

On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Gillian Flato
gillian.fl...@nexenta.com wrote:
 How do you download the help as a PDF?
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Re: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-15 Thread Robert Lauriston
MadCap's original impetus was to create a successor to RoboHelp, which
at the time looked like it had been abandoned by its then-owner
Macromedia.

On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Gillian Flato
gillian.fl...@nexenta.com wrote:
 Isn't that what MadCap tried to do?

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 I say we start a new company and create a competitor to FrameMaker! Who's 
 with me? Anyone? Anyone?
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RE: FrameMaker 11 and referenced graphics pointing to wrong drive: nightmare alley

2013-05-15 Thread Harro de Jong
Rob Shell wrote:

 
 My questions are
 How can I restore the proper drive letter in object properties?

Use XtraBookUtils:
 http://www.bache.name/sgml.html

This creates a list of all graphics in the book, you can edit the paths in that 
list and then the plugin will convert the paths. 

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RE: Frame 11 on MacBook Pro?

2013-05-15 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
Why would you bother with FM10? All it did was fix a bunch of issues with FM9 - 
FM11 is definitely the way to go. If you're super desperate, maybe I can put 
the unpacked files up on a shared service for you to grab. Are you trying the 
TCS4 package or just FM11 standalone?


From: MikeyShine [mailto:mikeysh...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:25 PM
To: Kristy Nolan
Cc: FrameUsers List; Jeff Coatsworth
Subject: Re: Frame 11 on MacBook Pro?

Kristy let me know if you'd rather op for FM version 10. I can get you a copy.



On May 14, 2013, at 9:04 PM, Kristy Nolan 
kristy.no...@wnco.commailto:kristy.no...@wnco.com wrote:

Hi, guys!

Thanks for the input! Update is that I have downloaded and installed Service 
Pack 3 for my Windows XP, deleted all previous attempts at downloading Frame, 
and re-downloaded the trial using Firefox. I made sure i was strictly on a 
Windows side (no coherence). Result is still no Frame. I tried to ask the 
online support at Adobe, but he took way too long to respond (and had to catch 
a flight).

I'll try again when I get back home (even though my trial clock is ticking). 
Making it hard to rationalize the idea of purchasing this on my own dime. As 
much as I love Frame, I may have to move to a different paradigm.

Truly appreciate all the input!

Kristy

Kristy Nolan
Central Pubs - Flight Ops

On May 14, 2013, at 8:58 PM, MikeyShine 
mikeysh...@gmail.commailto:mikeysh...@gmail.com wrote:

Good call Jeff I had just assumed she downloaded it though the virtual machine 
but I can def see where this could create a potential issue!


On May 13, 2013, at 5:10 PM, Jeff Coatsworth 
jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.commailto:jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com 
wrote:

image002.jpg
What browser are you using to download it? You probably should use Firefox from 
within the Windows virtual machine - I think Adobe is using 7Zip to compress 
the files, so under WinXP you'll need to install that to unzip it (IIRC).
From: 
framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Kristy Nolan
Sent: May-13-13 4:47 PM
To: FrameUsers List
Subject: Frame 11 on MacBook Pro?
Hi, all-
Is anyone else running Frame 11 on a MacBook Pro? If so, how did you get it to 
install? I am having trouble. I used to run Frame 7 on my old MacBook, so know 
it has worked in the past. I was able to download the trial version and have 
Parallels running. However when I install, it gets about 40% complete and gives 
me an error about a file not extracting properly from the archive and quits. I 
have tried re-downloading multiple times. I've tried moving all the files to an 
Explorer window.

Any other ideas? Please don't say move to a PC - that isn't happening. New Mac, 
Windows XP.
Cross-posted this to the FrameMaker LinkedIn page too.
Thanks!
Kristy

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RE: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-15 Thread David Creamer
So far, most have been talking about the Adobe Creative Cloud. I found that
I need  to subscribe to the ACC _and_ the Technical Communication Suite ($50
plus $70 per month US) to get all the software I need. Unfortunately, there
are two programs that overlap (AI and Acrobat). I wish Adobe would come out
with an Uuber Suite Subscription with a discounted price, of course!

David Creamer
IDEAS Training
http://www.ideastraining.com
Adobe Authorized Instructor  Certified Expert since 1995

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Re: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-15 Thread Yves Barbion
Good idea, David, a Creative Technical Communication Suite or better
still, custom suites at a discount, for example: InDesign + FrameMaker +
Illustrator + Photoshop + Acrobat (I don't need Captivate, Dreamweaver
etc.).

I also hope that the hardware (computer, hard disk space, RAM) can keep up
with the ever-increasing rate of software updates. Yes, it is definitely a
good thing if a subscription-based licensing plan always gives you the
latest version of the software unless, of course, if you have to buy a new
computer every two years or so.

cheers


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XML import question - problem importing a graphic

2013-05-15 Thread Fred Wersan
I am trying to import some XML into FrameMaker 8 Structured. (I want to 
build the XML file programmatically to reference a bunch of graphics 
files that would be too tedious to set up manually (although now that I 
think of it, I bet I could do this using Framescript, but I'll ask my 
question anyway.)


If I set up a test document and export to XML (to see what it needs to 
look like), I get this:


?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
!DOCTYPE bookSection SYSTEM 
file:///E:/MAK-Manuals/XML/makproddocedd.dtd [


!-- Begin Document Specific Declarations --


!NOTATION png SYSTEM 
!ENTITY yfigure1 SYSTEM yfigure16.png NDATA png
!-- End Document Specific Declarations --

]


bookSectionchapFrontMatterbookSectionNum/bookSectionNum
bookSectionTitleTitle/bookSectionTitle
para/para
chapTOC/chapTOC/chapFrontMatter
parayfigure entity = yfigure1 impsize = 3.183in 2.854in
impby = copy sideways = 0 impang = 0.000 xoffset = 0.076in
yoffset = -0.135in position = below align = acenter
cropped = 0 float = 0 width = 3.335in height = 2.583in
angle = 0.000 nsoffset = 0.000in//para
paraA-10 Thunderbolt/para
 (more of the same)

If I try to reimport this into FrameMaker by importing an XML file, the 
log file complains that I can't have a DOCTYPE. If I delete all that top 
stuff, I don't get that complaint, but FrameMaker can't figure out what 
yfigure1 is. If I delete the figure and just import the para element, it 
all works fine.


So the crux of the problem is figuring out how to tell FrameMaker what 
file to use for each figure.


I think I once figured out how to round trip graphics, but I can't 
remember what I did.


If anyone can give me a clue, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks.

Fred



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CUDSpan Utilites won't install (FM11, Win 7 Pro)

2013-05-15 Thread Terri Schultz
I'm hoping Chris Despopoulos sees this; I'm not sure how to contact him 
otherwise.
I am a long-time user of the CUDSpan utilities, and am trying to install them. 
FM11, Win 7 Pro.
My company upgraded to FM11; I did download the new FM11 versions of Chris' 
utilities.
I believe the .dlls must be installed in the plugins directory.However, it 
looks like FM11 has more than one of these.
On my system: Program Files\Adobe\AdobeFrameMaker11\fminit\Plugins  
  Program Files\AdobeFrameMaker11\plugins
The error message I see:   Cannot initialize API client 
c:\program files\adobe\adobeframemaker11\fminit\plugins\toc_breaker.dll
   Check for errors in the APIClients section of C:\Program 
Files\Adobe\Adobe Framemaker11\maker.ini,verify that the 
client program exists and make sure you has enough to swap space to run the 
desk.
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Re: CUDSpan Utilites won't install (FM11, Win 7 Pro)

2013-05-15 Thread Lin Sims
For FM10, at least, the path is:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\AdobeFrameMaker10\fminit\Plugins

I have pgfwhopper in that directory, and it works just fine.


On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Terri Schultz tjs_bad...@hotmail.comwrote:

 I'm hoping Chris Despopoulos sees this; I'm not sure how to contact him
 otherwise.

 I am a long-time user of the CUDSpan utilities, and am trying to install
 them.

 FM11, Win 7 Pro.

 My company upgraded to FM11; I did download the new FM11 versions of
 Chris' utilities.

 I believe the .dlls must be installed in the plugins directory.
 However, it looks like FM11 has more than one of these.

 On my system:
 Program Files\Adobe\AdobeFrameMaker11\fminit\Plugins
 Program Files\AdobeFrameMaker11\plugins

 The error message I see:
Cannot initialize API client c:\program
 files\adobe\adobeframemaker11\fminit\plugins\toc_breaker.dll

Check for errors in the APIClients section of
 C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Framemaker11\maker.ini,
verify that the client program exists and make sure you
 has enough to swap space to run the desk.

 Thanks in advance for you help.
 Terri

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Re: Frame 11 on MacBook Pro?

2013-05-15 Thread Karen Robbins

At 12:00 PM -0500 5/15/13, Kristy Nolan wrote:


Hi, all-

Is anyone else running Frame 11 on a MacBook Pro? If so, how did you 
get it to install? I am having trouble. I used to run Frame 7 on my 
old MacBook, so know it has worked in the past. I was able to 
download the trial version and have Parallels running. However when 
I install, it gets about 40% complete and gives me an error about a 
file not extracting properly from the archive and quits. I have 
tried re-downloading multiple times. I?ve tried moving all the files 
to an Explorer window.


Any other ideas? Please don't say move to a PC - that isn't 
happening. New Mac, Windows XP.



Presume your set-up meets FM11 requirements: Windows XP with SP3 and 
at least 1 GB of RAM.


If FM11 doesn't download through Windows browser and/or install 
properly, try getting in touch with Parallels tech support. They are 
enormously helpful; I just spent 2 hrs on the phone with them--they 
initiated it--getting my numeric keypad functioning properly.


--Karen



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XML Import issue solved

2013-05-15 Thread Fred Wersan

FWIW:

I changed the entity attribute to file and it imported the XML OK:

originally:
parayfigure entity= yfigure16 ../para

change to:

parayfigure file = yfigure16.png ../para

Fred

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Re: FrameMaker 11 and referenced graphics pointing to wrong drive: nightmare alley

2013-05-15 Thread subscribe
Could you save all the chapters in the book as MIF and do a couple of search 
and replace runs? Once to correct ImportObFileDI and once to correct  
ImportObFile.

I used to have a TextPipe script that automated this for me, although in my 
case I was trying to solve the problem of relative pathnames that had become 
absolute.

If that's as clear a concrete, let me know and I'll provide actual help.

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Re: Frame 11 on MacBook Pro?

2013-05-15 Thread Susan Modlin
Hi Karen,

I run FM 11 on my MacBook Pro using VMWare Fusion with Windows installed in the 
virtual machine. It's a spendy way to go, but it's rock solid. I installed FM 
from a CD (I'm old-fashioned that way) and have had relatively few problems. FM 
running in Windows on a Mac is at least as stable as the Mac version of Word. 

...Susan
 


 From: Karen Robbins karendes...@gmail.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: Frame 11 on MacBook Pro?
 

At 12:00 PM -0500 5/15/13, Kristy Nolan wrote:

Hi, all-

Is anyone else running Frame 11 on a MacBook Pro? If so, how did you 
get it to install? I am having trouble. I used to run Frame 7 on my 
old MacBook, so know it has worked in the past. I was able to 
download the trial version and have Parallels running. However when 
I install, it gets about 40% complete and gives me an error about a 
file not extracting properly from the archive and quits. I have 
tried re-downloading multiple times. I?ve tried moving all the files 
to an Explorer window.

Any other ideas? Please don't say move to a PC - that isn't 
happening. New Mac, Windows XP.


Presume your set-up meets FM11 requirements: Windows XP with SP3 and 
at least 1 GB of RAM.

If FM11 doesn't download through Windows browser and/or install 
properly, try getting in touch with Parallels tech support. They are 
enormously helpful; I just spent 2 hrs on the phone with them--they 
initiated it--getting my numeric keypad functioning properly.

--Karen



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Re: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-15 Thread Robert Lauriston
What Adobe programs do you need that aren't in TCS 4?

Illustrator replaced Photoshop, which was in TCS 3.5, but there are
freeware bitmap editors that do everything I need.

On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 7:11 AM, David Creamer
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Re: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-15 Thread Liz Fraley
This move is problematic for enterprises who exchange and archive files and
who need the ability to do version management.  (And by that I mean tool
version.)  Lots of customers are deliberately on old versions because
moving is a big deal and slow: You want to be sure that you can open old
files that contain past work well into the future. You can't assume that
they'll provide previous versions in the cloud. Archiving a VM with an old
version is easy to to; The cloud is much more difficult to archive. Plus,
any cloud vendor can decide at any time that it's not profitable to support
all the data you put there and just cease to do so.



On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Yves Barbion yves.barb...@gmail.comwrote:

 Good idea, David, a Creative Technical Communication Suite or better
 still, custom suites at a discount, for example: InDesign + FrameMaker +
 Illustrator + Photoshop + Acrobat (I don't need Captivate, Dreamweaver
 etc.).

 I also hope that the hardware (computer, hard disk space, RAM) can keep up
 with the ever-increasing rate of software updates. Yes, it is definitely a
 good thing if a subscription-based licensing plan always gives you the
 latest version of the software unless, of course, if you have to buy a new
 computer every two years or so.

 cheers


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RE: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-15 Thread Francis Novak
MadCap Flare is a great replacement for FrameMaker. In fact, many of our 
customers come from Frame. The key difference being more of a topic-based 
approach. MadCap Flare can be used for both professional quality print and 
online or mobile content...and you don't have to rent our software (we do offer 
subscription pricing if you want).

You can find more information, comparison charts and case studies from previous 
Frame users using the links below:

http://www.madcapsoftware.com/products/flare/yourreplacement/capabilities.aspx 

http://www.madcapsoftware.com/products/flare/flarevsframemaker.aspx


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Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 10:17 AM
To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net); Writer; craig...@hotmail.com; 
framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

Isn't that what MadCap tried to do?

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Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 3:06 PM
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Subject: RE: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

I raise my hand ... :)

Now ... who is responsible for getting funding?

Z

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Subject: Re: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

I say we start a new company and create a competitor to FrameMaker! Who's with 
me? Anyone? Anyone?

*crickets chirp*

=D

Nadine


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 From: Craig Ede craig...@hotmail.com
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Cc: 
 Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 1:24:36 PM
 Subject: FW: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription 
 only
 
T his is troubling, and so one message is buy the CS software on 
CD/DVD  while you still can. A number of my friends, most connected 
with academic  institutions, are doing that.
 
 I expect Adobe is attempting to have everyone on the same page as 
 regards these applications so that one set of help files defines the 
 current state
 of an application. This would help a lot in terms of expected outcomes 
 when using the product. However, it requires a constant state of 
 reeducation as new features are added and different ways of handling things 
 are introduced.
 Not that we don't have to deal with this already, but at least we know 
 if we do something in a given version, it is going to work in a way 
 that we already are familiar with.
 
 As for extending this the current version of the app beyond the 
 bounds of the Creative Suite, I rather doubt that Adobe will do that 
 anytime soon. If they have their finger on the pulse of their users 
 they must realized that, for instance, in the medical device industry, 
 all tools used to produce documentation must be validated. It would be 
 impossible  (and expensive!) to validate a moving target as the apps 
 were continually being improved and the former version made 
 unavailable.
 
 Craig Ede
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 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve 
 Rickaby
 Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 11:38 AM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription 
 only
 
 I have just heard a rumor that the CS Suite is going to available in 
 future only on an SaaS basis, by subscription. TCS/FrameMaker could follow?
 
 I do wonder whether the accountants that run large corporates like 
 Adobe understand how important their software is to the countless 
 thousands of freelances who have to scrape every last penny to buy it
 - but at least then they own something, not vapor that goes phut as 
 soon as you stop paying for it.
 
 For the last two decades FrameMaker, Illustrator, Acrobat and 
 Dreamweaver have been the rocks underpinning what I do. I'm far less 
 sure about the future, though.
 
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Re: FM8 and Win8 and Acrobat (Was: Corporate madness)

2013-05-15 Thread Theresa de Valence

On 5/13/2013 12:51 PM, Jeremy H. Griffith wrote:

On Mon, 13 May 2013 10:23:49 -0700, Lea Rush l...@astoria-pacific.com wrote:


I'm one who's stayed with FM8 and become increasingly happy about that
decision as I've watched the issues with the new interface accumulate. I'd
like to keep using it as long as possible or until Jeremy's project comes to
fruition. :)


Me too.  FM8 works fine on Windows 7 64-bit Ultimate, and
I'm perfectly happy with it.  Can't stand the UI for FM9
and up, so never use those.


Me too. FM8 works fine on Windows 7 64-bit. The only thing which I 
minded was that my Acrobat Professional 8 stopped working and I had to 
upgrade to Acrobat X which stupidly will not allow more than one open 
window (without a file open) and does not allow the user to position 
where Acrobat resides. I have two monitors, first horizontal and second 
vertical, and Acrobat ALWAYS opens in the dead space between the two 
monitors. I can't believe that a graphics-oriented company would be that 
demented about displays.


Theresa

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downloading help PDF WAS: FM10 help broken?

2013-05-15 Thread Craig Ede
This is for FM10, but FM11 works the same way, I think. (I don't have FM11
on this machine, but I have downloaded that PDF.)

From the FrameMaker menu choose Help  Help Topics. After the Help opens in
your browser, click on View Help PDF (over on the right at the top). This
will download the current help PDF. 

This is a great user manual. You can do the same for all your Adobe
products.

Craig

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Subject: RE: FM10 help broken?

Craig,
How do you download the help as a PDF?
-Gillian



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RE: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-15 Thread Craig Ede
I would expect view ceasing support as something quite different than
turning off access to a license. We'll have to see how that plays out.

Craig 

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Subject: RE: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

Craig Ede wrote:


 Your point about ownership is well taken. However, having a disk does 
 mean that you have access to a given software package you can count on 
 (and not some changing version of it). Also, given that license, they 
 cannot revoke your ability of use the software in that state, and they 
 have certain obligations to make sure you are able to do that (i.e. they
can't simply turn of your license at their end on a whim).
 Obviously, they can turn off support at some point.
 
 Or maybe I am wrong about their responsibilities. I'd love to hear 
 more info on this topic.

The FM9 license states that ' you acknowledge that any obligation Adobe may
have to support the previous version(s) may end upon the availability of the
upgrade or update.' IANAL, but to me that implies they can turn off your
license once a new version is available. 

Adobe's track record isn't that bad: activation for Frame 9 is still
available, and when they closed down the activation for CS2, they provided a
download for a version that doesn't need activation. 


Harro de Jong

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A strange 'debug' message, while using FrameMaker 10

2013-05-15 Thread Anjaneai S
Hi Simon,

Are you ware about any plug in being used in your FrameMaker or deployed by
someone else?

Does any file or this location exists on your disk?

Would it reproduce if you try the same steps again, considering both cases,
if you import it to same structured document or a new one?

Answers to these may lead to some more question :-)

Thanks,
Anjaneai


On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 9:33 PM, Simon BUCH  wrote:

> Does anyone on the list ever receive strange error messages from
> FrameMaker?
>
> I was in the middle of importing PDF files to layout in a structured
> FrameMaker document into FrameMaker 10.0.2.419 [or more accurately,
> 10.0.3.419] and I happened to receive the attached error message "Debug
> assertion failed", with reference to:
> F:\dd\vctools\vc7libs\ship\**atlmfc\src\atl\atls\**atldebugapi.cpp
>
> I don't even have Visual C++ installed on my machine!
>
> Can anyone enlighten me with the meaning of it?
>
> TIA
> // Simon BUCH
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FrameMaker 11 and referenced graphics pointing to wrong drive: nightmare alley

2013-05-15 Thread rebecca officer
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Frame 11 on MacBook Pro?

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FrameMaker 11 and referenced graphics pointing to wrong drive: nightmare alley

2013-05-15 Thread Harro de Jong
Rob Shell wrote:

> 
> My questions are
> How can I restore the proper drive letter in object properties?

Use XtraBookUtils:
< http://www.bache.name/sgml.html>

This creates a list of all graphics in the book, you can edit the paths in that 
list and then the plugin will convert the paths. 

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Frame 11 on MacBook Pro?

2013-05-15 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
Why would you bother with FM10? All it did was fix a bunch of issues with FM9 - 
FM11 is definitely the way to go. If you're super desperate, maybe I can put 
the unpacked files up on a shared service for you to grab. Are you trying the 
TCS4 package or just FM11 standalone?


From: MikeyShine [mailto:mikeysh...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:25 PM
To: Kristy Nolan
Cc: FrameUsers List; Jeff Coatsworth
Subject: Re: Frame 11 on MacBook Pro?

Kristy let me know if you'd rather op for FM version 10. I can get you a copy.



On May 14, 2013, at 9:04 PM, Kristy Nolan mailto:Kristy.Nolan at wnco.com>> wrote:

Hi, guys!

Thanks for the input! Update is that I have downloaded and installed Service 
Pack 3 for my Windows XP, deleted all previous attempts at downloading Frame, 
and re-downloaded the trial using Firefox. I made sure i was strictly on a 
Windows side (no coherence). Result is still no Frame. I tried to ask the 
online support at Adobe, but he took way too long to respond (and had to catch 
a flight).

I'll try again when I get back home (even though my trial clock is ticking). 
Making it hard to rationalize the idea of purchasing this on my own dime. As 
much as I love Frame, I may have to move to a different paradigm.

Truly appreciate all the input!

Kristy

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On May 14, 2013, at 8:58 PM, "MikeyShine" mailto:mikeyshine at gmail.com>> wrote:

Good call Jeff I had just assumed she downloaded it though the virtual machine 
but I can def see where this could create a potential issue!


On May 13, 2013, at 5:10 PM, Jeff Coatsworth mailto:jeff.coatsworth at jonassoftware.com>> wrote:


What browser are you using to download it? You probably should use Firefox from 
within the Windows virtual machine - I think Adobe is using 7Zip to compress 
the files, so under WinXP you'll need to install that to unzip it (IIRC).
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers-bounces at 
lists.frameusers.com> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf 
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Sent: May-13-13 4:47 PM
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Subject: Frame 11 on MacBook Pro?
Hi, all-
Is anyone else running Frame 11 on a MacBook Pro? If so, how did you get it to 
install? I am having trouble. I used to run Frame 7 on my old MacBook, so know 
it has worked in the past. I was able to download the trial version and have 
Parallels running. However when I install, it gets about 40% complete and gives 
me an error about a file not extracting properly from the archive and quits. I 
have tried re-downloading multiple times. I've tried moving all the files to an 
Explorer window.

Any other ideas? Please don't say move to a PC - that isn't happening. New Mac, 
Windows XP.
Cross-posted this to the FrameMaker LinkedIn page too.
Thanks!
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Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-15 Thread David Creamer
So far, most have been talking about the Adobe Creative Cloud. I found that
I need  to subscribe to the ACC _and_ the Technical Communication Suite ($50
plus $70 per month US) to get all the software I need. Unfortunately, there
are two programs that overlap (AI and Acrobat). I wish Adobe would come out
with an Uuber Suite Subscription with a discounted price, of course!

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Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-15 Thread Yves Barbion
Good idea, David, a "Creative Technical Communication Suite" or better
still, custom suites at a discount, for example: InDesign + FrameMaker +
Illustrator + Photoshop + Acrobat (I don't need Captivate, Dreamweaver
etc.).

I also hope that the hardware (computer, hard disk space, RAM) can keep up
with the ever-increasing rate of software updates. Yes, it is definitely a
good thing if a subscription-based licensing plan always gives you the
latest version of the software unless, of course, if you have to buy a new
computer every two years or so.

cheers


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XML import question - problem importing a graphic

2013-05-15 Thread Fred Wersan
I am trying to import some XML into FrameMaker 8 Structured. (I want to 
build the XML file programmatically to reference a bunch of graphics 
files that would be too tedious to set up manually (although now that I 
think of it, I bet I could do this using Framescript, but I'll ask my 
question anyway.)

If I set up a test document and export to XML (to see what it needs to 
look like), I get this:









]>



Title



A-10 Thunderbolt
 (more of the same)

If I try to reimport this into FrameMaker by importing an XML file, the 
log file complains that I can't have a DOCTYPE. If I delete all that top 
stuff, I don't get that complaint, but FrameMaker can't figure out what 
yfigure1 is. If I delete the figure and just import the para element, it 
all works fine.

So the crux of the problem is figuring out how to tell FrameMaker what 
file to use for each figure.

I think I once figured out how to round trip graphics, but I can't 
remember what I did.

If anyone can give me a clue, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks.

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CUDSpan Utilites won't install (FM11, Win 7 Pro)

2013-05-15 Thread Terri Schultz
I'm hoping Chris Despopoulos sees this; I'm not sure how to contact him 
otherwise.
I am a long-time user of the CUDSpan utilities, and am trying to install them. 
FM11, Win 7 Pro.
My company upgraded to FM11; I did download the new FM11 versions of Chris' 
utilities.
I believe the .dlls must be installed in the "plugins" directory.However, it 
looks like FM11 has more than one of these.
On my system: Program Files\Adobe\AdobeFrameMaker11\fminit\Plugins  
  Program Files\AdobeFrameMaker11\plugins
The error message I see:   Cannot initialize API client 
c:\program files\adobe\adobeframemaker11\fminit\plugins\toc_breaker.dll
   Check for errors in the APIClients section of C:\Program 
Files\Adobe\Adobe Framemaker11\maker.ini,verify that the 
client program exists and make sure you has enough to swap space to run the 
desk.
Thanks in advance for you help.Terri  
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Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-15 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 16:57 +0200 15/5/13, Yves Barbion wrote:

>Yes, it is definitely a good thing if a subscription-based licensing plan 
>always gives you the latest version of the software unless, of course, if you 
>have to buy a new computer every two years or so.

Actually, this is not always the case, as unexpected training time and costs 
can arise, with associated disturbance to production schedules. In addition, as 
we all know, updates usually fix some bugs and introduce others.

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CUDSpan Utilites won't install (FM11, Win 7 Pro)

2013-05-15 Thread Lin Sims
For FM10, at least, the path is:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\AdobeFrameMaker10\fminit\Plugins

I have pgfwhopper in that directory, and it works just fine.


On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Terri Schultz wrote:

> I'm hoping Chris Despopoulos sees this; I'm not sure how to contact him
> otherwise.
>
> I am a long-time user of the CUDSpan utilities, and am trying to install
> them.
>
> FM11, Win 7 Pro.
>
> My company upgraded to FM11; I did download the new FM11 versions of
> Chris' utilities.
>
> I believe the .dlls must be installed in the "plugins" directory.
> However, it looks like FM11 has more than one of these.
>
> On my system:
> Program Files\Adobe\AdobeFrameMaker11\fminit\Plugins
> Program Files\AdobeFrameMaker11\plugins
>
> The error message I see:
>Cannot initialize API client c:\program
> files\adobe\adobeframemaker11\fminit\plugins\toc_breaker.dll
>
>Check for errors in the APIClients section of
> C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Framemaker11\maker.ini,
>verify that the client program exists and make sure you
> has enough to swap space to run the desk.
>
> Thanks in advance for you help.
> Terri
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Frame 11 on MacBook Pro?

2013-05-15 Thread Karen Robbins
At 12:00 PM -0500 5/15/13, Kristy Nolan wrote:

>Hi, all-
>
>Is anyone else running Frame 11 on a MacBook Pro? If so, how did you 
>get it to install? I am having trouble. I used to run Frame 7 on my 
>old MacBook, so know it has worked in the past. I was able to 
>download the trial version and have Parallels running. However when 
>I install, it gets about 40% complete and gives me an error about a 
>file not extracting properly from the archive and quits. I have 
>tried re-downloading multiple times. I?ve tried moving all the files 
>to an Explorer window.
>
>Any other ideas? Please don't say move to a PC - that isn't 
>happening. New Mac, Windows XP.


Presume your set-up meets FM11 requirements: Windows XP with SP3 and 
at least 1 GB of RAM.

If FM11 doesn't download through Windows browser and/or install 
properly, try getting in touch with Parallels tech support. They are 
enormously helpful; I just spent 2 hrs on the phone with them--they 
initiated it--getting my numeric keypad functioning properly.

--Karen





XML Import issue solved

2013-05-15 Thread Fred Wersan
FWIW:

I changed the entity attribute to file and it imported the XML OK:

originally:


change to:



Fred

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FrameMaker 11 and referenced graphics pointing to wrong drive: nightmare alley

2013-05-15 Thread subscr...@cuff.ca
Could you save all the chapters in the book as MIF and do a couple of search 
and replace runs? Once to correct ImportObFileDI and once to correct  
ImportObFile.

I used to have a TextPipe script that automated this for me, although in my 
case I was trying to solve the problem of relative pathnames that had become 
absolute.

If that's as clear a concrete, let me know and I'll provide actual help.



Frame 11 on MacBook Pro?

2013-05-15 Thread Susan Modlin
Hi Karen,

I run FM 11 on my MacBook Pro using VMWare Fusion with Windows installed in the 
virtual machine. It's a spendy way to go, but it's rock solid. I installed FM 
from a CD (I'm old-fashioned that way) and have had relatively few problems. FM 
running in Windows on a Mac is at least as stable as the Mac version of Word.?

...Susan
?


 From: Karen Robbins 
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: Frame 11 on MacBook Pro?


At 12:00 PM -0500 5/15/13, Kristy Nolan wrote:

>Hi, all-
>
>Is anyone else running Frame 11 on a MacBook Pro? If so, how did you 
>get it to install? I am having trouble. I used to run Frame 7 on my 
>old MacBook, so know it has worked in the past. I was able to 
>download the trial version and have Parallels running. However when 
>I install, it gets about 40% complete and gives me an error about a 
>file not extracting properly from the archive and quits. I have 
>tried re-downloading multiple times. I?ve tried moving all the files 
>to an Explorer window.
>
>Any other ideas? Please don't say move to a PC - that isn't 
>happening. New Mac, Windows XP.


Presume your set-up meets FM11 requirements: Windows XP with SP3 and 
at least 1 GB of RAM.

If FM11 doesn't download through Windows browser and/or install 
properly, try getting in touch with Parallels tech support. They are 
enormously helpful; I just spent 2 hrs on the phone with them--they 
initiated it--getting my numeric keypad functioning properly.

--Karen



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Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-15 Thread Robert Lauriston
What Adobe programs do you need that aren't in TCS 4?

Illustrator replaced Photoshop, which was in TCS 3.5, but there are
freeware bitmap editors that do everything I need.

On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 7:11 AM, David Creamer
 wrote:
> So far, most have been talking about the Adobe Creative Cloud. I found that
> I need  to subscribe to the ACC _and_ the Technical Communication Suite ($50
> plus $70 per month US) to get all the software I need.


Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-15 Thread Liz Fraley
This move is problematic for enterprises who exchange and archive files and
who need the ability to do version management.  (And by that I mean tool
version.)  Lots of customers are deliberately on old versions because
moving is a big deal and slow: You want to be sure that you can open old
files that contain past work well into the future. You can't assume that
they'll provide previous versions in the cloud. Archiving a VM with an old
version is easy to to; The cloud is much more difficult to archive. Plus,
any cloud vendor can decide at any time that it's not profitable to support
all the data you put there and just cease to do so.



On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Yves Barbion wrote:

> Good idea, David, a "Creative Technical Communication Suite" or better
> still, custom suites at a discount, for example: InDesign + FrameMaker +
> Illustrator + Photoshop + Acrobat (I don't need Captivate, Dreamweaver
> etc.).
>
> I also hope that the hardware (computer, hard disk space, RAM) can keep up
> with the ever-increasing rate of software updates. Yes, it is definitely a
> good thing if a subscription-based licensing plan always gives you the
> latest version of the software unless, of course, if you have to buy a new
> computer every two years or so.
>
> cheers
>
>
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Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-15 Thread Francis Novak
MadCap Flare is a great replacement for FrameMaker. In fact, many of our 
customers come from Frame. The key difference being more of a topic-based 
approach. MadCap Flare can be used for both professional quality print and 
online or mobile content...and you don't have to rent our software (we do offer 
subscription pricing if you want).

You can find more information, comparison charts and case studies from previous 
Frame users using the links below:

http://www.madcapsoftware.com/products/flare/yourreplacement/capabilities.aspx 

http://www.madcapsoftware.com/products/flare/flarevsframemaker.aspx


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-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Gillian Flato
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 10:17 AM
To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net); Writer; craigede at 
hotmail.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

Isn't that what MadCap tried to do?

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 3:06 PM
To: Writer; craigede at hotmail.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

I raise my hand ... :)

Now ... who is responsible for getting funding?

Z

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Writer
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 11:33 AM
To: craigede at hotmail.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

I say we start a new company and create a competitor to FrameMaker! Who's with 
me? Anyone? Anyone?

*crickets chirp*

=D

Nadine


- Original Message -
> From: Craig Ede 
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Cc: 
> Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 1:24:36 PM
> Subject: FW: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription 
> only
> 
>T his is troubling, and so one message is "buy the CS software on 
>CD/DVD  while you still can." A number of my friends, most connected 
>with academic  institutions, are doing that.
> 
> I expect Adobe is attempting to have everyone on the same page as 
> regards these applications so that one set of help files defines the 
> "current state"
> of an application. This would help a lot in terms of expected outcomes 
> when using the product. However, it requires a constant state of 
> reeducation as new features are added and different ways of handling things 
> are introduced.
> Not that we don't have to deal with this already, but at least we know 
> if we do something in a given version, it is going to work in a way 
> that we already are familiar with.
> 
> As for extending this "the current version of the app" beyond the 
> bounds of the Creative Suite, I rather doubt that Adobe will do that 
> anytime soon. If they have their finger on the pulse of their users 
> they must realized that, for instance, in the medical device industry, 
> all tools used to produce documentation must be validated. It would be 
> impossible? (and expensive!) to validate a moving target as the apps 
> were continually being improved and the former version made 
> unavailable.
> 
> Craig Ede
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve 
> Rickaby
> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 11:38 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription 
> only
> 
> I have just heard a rumor that the CS Suite is going to available in 
> future only on an SaaS basis, by subscription. TCS/FrameMaker could follow?
> 
> I do wonder whether the accountants that run large corporates like 
> Adobe understand how important their software is to the countless 
> thousands of freelances who have to scrape every last penny to buy it
> - but at least then they own something, not vapor that goes phut as 
> soon as you stop paying for it.
> 
> For the last two decades FrameMaker, Illustrator, Acrobat and 
> Dreamweaver have been the rocks underpinning what I do. I'm far less 
> sure about the future, though.
> 
> --
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FM8 and Win8 and Acrobat (Was: Corporate madness)

2013-05-15 Thread Theresa de Valence
On 5/13/2013 12:51 PM, Jeremy H. Griffith wrote:
> On Mon, 13 May 2013 10:23:49 -0700, Lea Rush  
> wrote:
>
>> I'm one who's stayed with FM8 and become increasingly happy about that
>> decision as I've watched the issues with the new interface accumulate. I'd
>> like to keep using it as long as possible or until Jeremy's project comes to
>> fruition. :)
>
> Me too.  FM8 works fine on Windows 7 64-bit Ultimate, and
> I'm perfectly happy with it.  Can't stand the UI for FM9
> and up, so never use those.

Me too. FM8 works fine on Windows 7 64-bit. The only thing which I 
minded was that my Acrobat Professional 8 stopped working and I had to 
upgrade to Acrobat X which stupidly will not allow more than one open 
window (without a file open) and does not allow the user to position 
where Acrobat resides. I have two monitors, first horizontal and second 
vertical, and Acrobat ALWAYS opens in the dead space between the two 
monitors. I can't believe that a graphics-oriented company would be that 
demented about displays.

Theresa



downloading help PDF WAS: FM10 help broken?

2013-05-15 Thread Craig Ede
This is for FM10, but FM11 works the same way, I think. (I don't have FM11
on this machine, but I have downloaded that PDF.)

>From the FrameMaker menu choose Help > Help Topics. After the Help opens in
your browser, click on View Help PDF (over on the right at the top). This
will download the current help PDF. 

This is a great user manual. You can do the same for all your Adobe
products.

Craig

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From: Gillian Flato [mailto:gillian.fl...@nexenta.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 12:07 PM
To: craigede at hotmail.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FM10 help broken?

Craig,
How do you download the help as a PDF?
-Gillian





OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-15 Thread Craig Ede
I would expect view ceasing support as something quite different than
turning off access to a license. We'll have to see how that plays out.

Craig 

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Harro de Jong
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 4:08 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

Craig Ede wrote:


> Your point about ownership is well taken. However, having a disk does 
> mean that you have access to a given software package you can count on 
> (and not some changing version of it). Also, given that license, they 
> cannot revoke your ability of use the software in that state, and they 
> have certain obligations to make sure you are able to do that (i.e. they
can't simply turn of your license at their end on a whim).
> Obviously, they can turn off support at some point.
> 
> Or maybe I am wrong about their responsibilities. I'd love to hear 
> more info on this topic.

The FM9 license states that ' you acknowledge that any obligation Adobe may
have to support the previous version(s) may end upon the availability of the
upgrade or update.' IANAL, but to me that implies they can turn off your
license once a new version is available. 

Adobe's track record isn't that bad: activation for Frame 9 is still
available, and when they closed down the activation for CS2, they provided a
download for a version that doesn't need activation. 


Harro de Jong



OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-15 Thread Craig Ede
The subscription model probably does help them deal with piracy. In that
sense, they are urging a part of their user (but not customer) base to be
more obedient.



Craig



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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Johnson
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Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Forum
Subject: Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only



... What you're saying basically is that Adobe blames its customers for its
relative low profit margins and share price. If only we were more rational
and obedient, Adobe would be better off. 

 

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OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-15 Thread Craig Ede
Adobe provides a software license transfer form. Not applicable to academic
versions, however.
http://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/policy-pricing/transfer-product-license.h
tml
Craig

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Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 3:15 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Steve Johnson  wrote:
> ... you can't buy old versions of anything from anybody ever ...

Maybe licensed resellers have to return all old software when a new version
is released, but the FrameMaker 10 license allows you to sell your rights:

"You may ... permanently transfer all your rights to use the Software to
another individual or legal entity ... Adobe may require that you and the
receiving party confirm in writing your compliance with this agreement,
provide Adobe with information about yourselves, and register as end-users
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Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-15 Thread Robert Lauriston
The hell you say. The only deadline I've ever missed was the result of
my department's PCs being updated to Word 2003 without warning. There
were bugs that made it impossible to update the headers and footers in
a new features doc that had to be in Word format because marketing had
the final cut.

Why waste money on software I don't need? I bought Acrobat 8,
Photoshop 5, and Illustrator 7, and FrameMaker 6 years ago and they
still work fine. FrameMaker 8 was maybe worth the cost of upgrading,
nothing since then has been. If I'd been paying for subscriptions all
that time I'd have spent a lot more money than I did buying them
outright.

On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Yves Barbion  wrote:
> it is definitely a
> good thing if a subscription-based licensing plan always gives you the
> latest version of the software


Link to recorded ELLIS PRATT / Adobe webinar on Agile Authoring and LEAN methodology (FrameMaker)

2013-05-15 Thread Maxwell Hoffmann
Missed our #AdobeTCS webinar "Towards an Agile authoring methodology: learning 
from the Lean methodology"? 

RECORDING: http://adobe.ly/13xEqF4 -- Guest speaker = Ellis Pratt of Cherryleaf 
@ellispratt

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Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-15 Thread Maxwell Hoffmann
Hello Everybody,

For the record, Adobe has made no announcements about Tech Comm Suite, 
FrameMaker or RoboHelp going to subscription only. The announcements discussed 
in this thread only involve Creative Suite. The change in future distribution 
of Creative Cloud was announced at the Adobe MAX conference in Los Angeles last 
week.

At this point, anything involving changes in how FrameMaker is distributed is 
just speculation. I appreciate everyone's feedback, but plans to build a 
competitive product and business plans for a competitive product may be a bit 
premature.  ;-)

I'm glad there is always so much creative energy within this forum. Keeps 
everyone on their toes.


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[ANN:] May 17 webinar 9AM PDT: FM for Word Users, "Bullet-proof" autonumbered lists and headings

2013-05-15 Thread Maxwell Hoffmann
Friday May 17 Webinar / 9:00 AM PDT (Pacific Time)
Register: http://adobe.ly/129Zte0

One long-standing complaint amongst Word users has been fragile auto-numbers. 
Numbered headings and lists has long been one of FrameMaker's greatest 
strengths. Join this webinar to discover how (a) simple building blocks will 
create "bullet-proof" numbering schemes, (b) how you can easily "borrow" 
existing numbering schemes from existing templates and (c) how you can use the 
paragraph "numbering" feature for other purposes (e.g. "prefix" text for 
CAUTIONs or WARNINGs.)

[Webinar is at novice/intermediate level for novices and Word users]

About the Presenter: Maxwell Hoffmann, Adobe's Global Product Evangelist for 
Tech Comm Suite, has extensive tech comm publishing experience, having worked 
for a variety of publishing vendors and translation agencies before coming on 
board with Adobe. He is a former FrameMaker product marketing manager with 
Frame Technology (before Adobe acquired the product), and has trained over 
1,200 people in scalable publishing solutions over the years.



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OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-15 Thread Maxwell Hoffmann
Hi Robert,

Your opinion is appreciated and noted. For anyone who would like a summary of 
what has changed in FrameMaker since 2002, you can download a PDF document 
which contains a matrix of which features were introduced in FM7.2, FM8, FM9 
and FM11. Interesting reading.

Here is the link: http://adobe.ly/PAQS1u


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-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 1:31 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

Customers value a business based on the goods or services it provides, not on 
how much money it makes for its stockholders. Adobe hasn't come up with 
anything new I thought was worth paying for since 2002.

On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 1:19 PM,   wrote:
> The purpose of business is to make money.  The purpose of business is _not_ 
> to produce a valuable good or to deliver a worthwhile service.
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Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-15 Thread Robert Lauriston
Flare doesn't offer anything I need that I don't already have from
FrameMaker and WebWorks, and it lacks some things I find very useful,
such as WYSIWYG editing for continuous PDF preview and the ability to
save change markup to PDF for review.

And neither do the thing I'm most interested in these days, which is
exporting to Confluence 4 / 5.

On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Francis Novak
 wrote:
> MadCap Flare is a great replacement for FrameMaker. In fact, many of our 
> customers come from Frame. The key difference being more of a topic-based 
> approach. MadCap Flare can be used for both professional quality print and 
> online or mobile content...