Re: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking
I never used version 8. And every time my xrefs broke it was either the xref marker had been deleted during editing or the relative path had been changed. Scott T. On Sep 30, 2013, at 17:40, VLM TechSubs techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org wrote: Greetings! I put xref markers in throughout a book. These markers are simple xrefs to other chapters, nothing fancy. I generate the book, all is well. After working for a while, I do another generate (sometimes with intervening generates that were fine), and all of a sudden, lots of broken xrefs. I fix them all, generate, and all is well. Several generates later, poof! A large number of broken xrefs again. Has anyone else encountered something like this? Thanks, Elchanan ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as qui...@airmail.net. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/quills%40airmail.net Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking
Hi Elchanan, If FrameMaker cannot open the target file, this may cause unresolved cross-references. Could it be that you have a file in the book which is closed and which triggers error messages when opened (e.g. missing fonts). Does it make a difference, if you open all files of the book? Best regards Winfried From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of VLM TechSubs Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:42 AM To: Framers Subject: RE: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking Perhaps I should add that this just happened when I added an index to the book. The process called for a generate, which I did. And now, lots of broken xrefs. I did change the index suffix, but I can't imagine that would cause the problem ... would it? From: VLM TechSubs [mailto:techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org] Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 3:41 PM To: Framers Subject: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking Greetings! I put xref markers in throughout a book. These markers are simple xrefs to other chapters, nothing fancy. I generate the book, all is well. After working for a while, I do another generate (sometimes with intervening generates that were fine), and all of a sudden, lots of broken xrefs. I fix them all, generate, and all is well. Several generates later, poof! A large number of broken xrefs again. Has anyone else encountered something like this? Thanks, Elchanan This e-mail contains privileged and confidential information intended for the use of the addressees named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in respect of any information contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and immediately destroy this e-mail and its attachments. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
QUESTION ABOUT A NONPRINTING CHARACTER (WAS: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking)
Thanks Scott. I haven’t moved any files, and this was mass breakage of the links all at once. Which has given me an idea. Perhaps I should just put some nonprinting character into all those empty chapter heading paragraphs, so that they no longer appear empty to FrameMaker. QUESTION: What character to use. I don’t wish to alter the spacing (centering) of these headings. I could use a thin space, the effect of which on alignment would be minimal. But is there a nonprinting character I could use, that will not affect alignment at all and that will not have any adverse effect? Thanks to all, Elchanan From: Scott Turner [mailto:qui...@airmail.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:12 AM To: VLM TechSubs Cc: Framers Subject: Re: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking I never used version 8. And every time my xrefs broke it was either the xref marker had been deleted during editing or the relative path had been changed. Scott T. On Sep 30, 2013, at 17:40, VLM TechSubs techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org wrote: Greetings! I put xref markers in throughout a book. These markers are simple xrefs to other chapters, nothing fancy. I generate the book, all is well. After working for a while, I do another generate (sometimes with intervening generates that were fine), and all of a sudden, lots of broken xrefs. I fix them all, generate, and all is well. Several generates later, poof! A large number of broken xrefs again. Has anyone else encountered something like this? Thanks, Elchanan ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as qui...@airmail.net. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/quills%40airmail.net Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking
Great suggestion, thanks Winfried. I have been working with all files open, because some have that font error message upon opening, and I haven't taken time yet to fix that. And . as time goes by, I think/suspect increasingly that this problem has to do with linking to empty target paragraphs. Ergo, my request for input on nonprinting characters I might use to trick FM into thinking that those paras are not really empty. Thanks again! Elchanan From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Reng, Dr. Winfried Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:36 AM To: Framers Subject: RE: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking Hi Elchanan, If FrameMaker cannot open the target file, this may cause unresolved cross-references. Could it be that you have a file in the book which is closed and which triggers error messages when opened (e.g. missing fonts). Does it make a difference, if you open all files of the book? Best regards Winfried From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of VLM TechSubs Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:42 AM To: Framers Subject: RE: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking Perhaps I should add that this just happened when I added an index to the book. The process called for a generate, which I did. And now, lots of broken xrefs. I did change the index suffix, but I can't imagine that would cause the problem . would it? From: VLM TechSubs [mailto:techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org] Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 3:41 PM To: Framers Subject: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking Greetings! I put xref markers in throughout a book. These markers are simple xrefs to other chapters, nothing fancy. I generate the book, all is well. After working for a while, I do another generate (sometimes with intervening generates that were fine), and all of a sudden, lots of broken xrefs. I fix them all, generate, and all is well. Several generates later, poof! A large number of broken xrefs again. Has anyone else encountered something like this? Thanks, Elchanan _ This e-mail contains privileged and confidential information intended for the use of the addressees named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in respect of any information contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and immediately destroy this e-mail and its attachments. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: TIME URGENT ... Missing Adobe PDF printer driver
Thanks Craig, I will look. But at this point, I may wait until the end of this project, as it draws near, and the Acrobat XI trial will get me that far. Best regards, Elchanan From: Craig Ede [mailto:craig...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 6:13 PM To: 'VLM TechSubs'; 'Framer's List' Subject: RE: TIME URGENT ... Missing Adobe PDF printer driver There is an update function from the menu system for both FrameMaker (HelpUpdates) and Acrobat (HelpCheck for Updates). From FrameMaker this launches the Adobe Application Manager on my system which allows updates to all installed Adobe products. Craig From: VLM TechSubs [mailto:techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org] Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 7:25 PM To: craig...@hotmail.com; 'Böðvar Björgvinsson'; 'Framer's List' Subject: RE: TIME URGENT ... Missing Adobe PDF printer driver I assume that you mean an update function in the installer, yes? Ill have to look for that. Thanks, Elchanan From: Craig Ede [mailto:craig...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 6:30 AM To: 'Böðvar Björgvinsson'; 'VLM TechSubs'; 'Framer's List' Subject: RE: TIME URGENT ... Missing Adobe PDF printer driver The following worked for me: Make sure you select Acrobat (not Reader) as the application to open you PDFs. You can do this by selecting File Properties for any PDF. Update your Adobe FrameMaker and Acrobat applications via the update function. I think all this re-installation talk is overkill. Craig ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking
On 2013-Oct-01 12:09 PM, VLM TechSubs wrote: Great suggestion, thanks Winfried. I have been working with all files open, because some have that font error message upon opening, and I haven’t taken time yet to fix that. And … as time goes by, I think/suspect increasingly that this problem has to do with linking to empty target paragraphs. Ergo, my request for input on nonprinting characters I might use to trick FM into thinking that those paras are not really empty. Elchanan, I really doubt that putting non-printing characters (or printing characters, for that matter) into your empty paragraphs will solve the problem. If the paragraph exists at all, then FM has assigned it a unique number and will use that number internally to create links. If the target has a cross-ref marker in it, then the pgf is also no longer empty but contains the marker with its own unique number for linking. You can see that for yourself if you open a .mif version of your files. Your empty paragraphs will take up several lines with content of this sort (from an empty pgf containing only a xref marker): Para Unique 998909 PgfTag `special' PgfReferenced Yes ParaLine Marker MType 9 MTypeName `Cross-Ref' MText `special pgf marker' MCurrPage `1' Unique 998920 # end of Marker # end of ParaLine # end of Para There is some other cause for your broken links. Are you saving all open files after making corrections, before regenerating files? Have you tried generating a list of unresolved cross-references when the problem occurs? There may be clues in such a list. http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/8.0/index.html (search on Resolving cross-references) Best regards, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking
I'll only comment briefly about the use of empty paragraphs, which is to say that they are seldom an optimum solution to issues or document model shortcomings in FrameMaker. I cannot imagine a situation where it makes any real sense to be linking to an empty heading paragraph. What is it that you are attempting to accomplish with empty headings? But the real point I want to make is that FrameMaker does not link to paragraphs; it *only* links to markers. When you create a cross-reference, FrameMaker gives you the option of viewing a list of all paragraphs of a particular style so that you can choose the targtet. But when you tell FrameMaker to make the cross-reference, it does *not* link to the paragraph itself. Instead, it links to a uniquely numbered marker that is located within that paragraph; and if no suitable marker exists, it automatically creates one for you. Whether the paragraph is empty or not can determine what is displayed at the referring end of the cross-reference (e.g., the autonumber and/or the text of the paragraph); but as far as the link itself is concerned, the only thing that matters is the location of marker with the matching ID. You can edit the text in the referenced paragraph to your heart's content--even deleting all of the text--and the link will remain intact and functional as long as the marker is still there. If you move the marker to a different paragraph, that's where the link will now point. But if you accidentally delete the marker (or conditionalize it and set that condition to hide), the cross-reference will be broken and the referring document will report it as unresolved. -Fred Ridder From: techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org To: wr...@tycoint.com; Framers@Lists.FrameUsers.com Subject: RE: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 09:09:48 -0700 Great suggestion, thanks Winfried. I have been working with all files open, because some have that font error message upon opening, and I haven’t taken time yet to fix that. And … as time goes by, I think/suspect increasingly that this problem has to do with linking to empty target paragraphs. Ergo, my request for input on nonprinting characters I might use to trick FM into thinking that those paras are not really empty. Thanks again! Elchanan From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Reng, Dr. Winfried Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:36 AM To: Framers Subject: RE: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking Hi Elchanan, If FrameMaker cannot open the target file, this may causeunresolved cross-references.Could it be that you have a file in the book which is closedand which triggers error messages when opened (e.g. missingfonts). Does it make a difference, if you open all files of the book? Best regards Winfried From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of VLM TechSubs Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:42 AM To: Framers Subject: RE: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking Perhaps I should add that this just happened when I added an index to the book. The process called for a generate, which I did. And now, lots of broken xrefs. I did change the index suffix, but I can’t imagine that would cause the problem … would it? From: VLM TechSubs [mailto:techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org] Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 3:41 PM To: Framers Subject: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking Greetings! I put xref markers in throughout a book. These markers are simple xrefs to other chapters, nothing fancy. I generate the book, all is well. After working for a while, I do another generate (sometimes with intervening generates that were fine), and all of a sudden, lots of broken xrefs. I fix them all, generate, and all is well. Several generates later, poof! A large number of broken xrefs again. Has anyone else encountered something like this? Thanks,Elchanan This e-mail contains privileged and confidential information intended for the use of the addressees named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in respect of any information contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and immediately destroy this e-mail and its attachments. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as docu...@hotmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: TIME URGENT ... Missing Adobe PDF printer driver
The following worked for me: Make sure you select Acrobat (not Reader) as the application to open you PDFs. You can do this by selecting File Properties for any PDF. Update your Adobe FrameMaker and Acrobat applications via the update function. I think all this re-installation talk is overkill. Craig ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FrameMaker: Is any version URL-aware?
Original Message From: VLM TechSubs techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org Date: Sun, September 29, 2013 11:26 pm ... Guess FrameMaker is a bit behind the curve when it comes to the Internet, eh? And … it will work, so that’s just grand! ... In defense of FrameMaker; it doesn't assume the mere text of a URL should be active; it makes that your prerogative. In that sense, it's much more like an HTML editing environment than a word processor. There are many cases in which one would very much NOT want a URL to be auto-hyperlinked (e.g., a code snippet intended to be copied). ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: script for batch PDF generation
I gave up on ExtendScript due to lack of documentation or support. Also, scripts would stop working for no apparent reason. FrameScript is well worth the modest price if you need to automate FrameMaker tasks. On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 7:35 AM, Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp w...@idtp.eu wrote: Hi all, I'm looking for a way to automate the pdf generation of FM books (unstructured) in FM11. Use case: 6 books, each in 24 languages to be printed to PDF once a day. Has anyone such a script (ExtendScript) available or knows of a plugin that performs it? Would be nice if the script will allow additional modification like importing variable definitions etc. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FrameMaker: Is any version URL-aware?
Thank god for that. I really get tired of hitting control-Z in Word to undo some change Word has automatically made to the text I'm entering. Craig From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Scott Turner Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 11:57 AM ... Unlike Microsoft, Adobe does not usually assume it knows what you want to do. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: TIME URGENT ... Missing Adobe PDF printer driver
FrameMaker has a bundled version of Distiller and the Adobe PDF printer driver. If they get messed up, and repairing FrameMaker doesn't work, then you need to reinstall FrameMaker. On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 5:25 PM, VLM TechSubs techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org wrote: Hmm, good idea, but how? I tried a repair installation, that didn’t solve the problem. Is there another way to do just a Distiller installation from the Frame install? I’ll have to check this out more carefully, thanks for the idea. ** ** Elchanan ** ** *From:* Böðvar Björgvinsson [mailto:bod...@gmail.com bod...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, September 30, 2013 5:13 AM *To:* VLM TechSubs *Cc:* Syed Zaeem Hosain; i...@heiko-haida.de; Framers *Subject:* Re: TIME URGENT ... Missing Adobe PDF printer driver ** ** Seems to me you should do a partial reinstallation of your FM, installing Distiller. Some other install of another pdf application might have damaged it. ** ** HTH, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson ** ** ** ** ** ** On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 4:51 AM, VLM TechSubs techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org wrote: Yes Zaeem, and thank you! I sometimes get the impression that Adobe Acrobat has a few “undocumented features” going on. :) Acrobat is VERY expensive. Everything from Adobe is very expensive, IMO. :):) So I imagine that your work will be welcomed by many people! Will you include PDFmarks support? Interesting comment about LaTeX. I am aware of it, but not familiar with it. Does it work under Windows, or only Linux? Thanks ! Elchanan *From:* Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) [mailto: syed.hos...@aeris.net] *Sent:* Sunday, September 29, 2013 8:50 PM *To:* VLM TechSubs; i...@heiko-haida.de; Framers *Subject:* RE: TIME URGENT ... Missing Adobe PDF printer driver As an FYI: Some hyperlinks in FrameMaker documents do not seem to output with PDF generators like Nitro PDF and a few others that I have tested so far. Most are good in general though (of course, I am not sure why Nitro choked on your document!). Anyway, so far, my tests show only Adobe Acrobat doing the “right thing” for the links, but I am planning on working with a company who makes a PDF writer – they have expressed interest to add this support. So, if you have links in your document, stick with Adobe Acrobat for now ... Z P.S. Some LaTeX editors can create PDF with links. I particularly like TeXstudio (from http://texstudio.sourceforge.net/). All my *new* specs are now created as LaTeX files instead of FrameMaker, and this editor is generating excellent PDF output for them. *From:* framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [ mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.comframers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *VLM TechSubs *Sent:* Sunday, September 29, 2013 8:33 PM *To:* i...@heiko-haida.de; Framers *Subject:* RE: TIME URGENT ... Missing Adobe PDF printer driver Thanks for this kind response, Tino. I did not have Acrobat/Distiller on my system, so I had to install something. I did try using Nitro PDF Pro 8, for which I have a full license, but it choked when I tried to print the whole book using its PDF printer driver. I suppose I could have tried others, but when I received Art’s suggestion, I just went with that, and it has worked out fine. Best, Elchanan *From:* Heiko Haida [mailto:i...@heiko-haida.de i...@heiko-haida.de] *Sent:* Saturday, September 28, 2013 1:54 PM *To:* VLM TechSubs *Subject:* Re: TIME URGENT ... Missing Adobe PDF printer driver Hi, the main question is if you still have Acrobat and Distiller installed on your computer or not. I also have this problem: FM does not recognize the Distiller, but it nevertheless does in fact produce a ps-file, a .tps-file (which would normally handed over automatically to Distiller). I then just take this file and drag it on to the Distiller and have my PDF. But if Acrobat has really vanished completely, you could use the FM 8 distiller plugin which is part of the FM installation DVD (maybe via the repair option, I am not sure). Or: You could install any other PDF printer like Tiny PDF, PDF24 or whatever you like... Just check the Internet for something suitable. Best regards - Tino H. Haida VLM TechSubs: Aack! I’m at the end of this project, and I went to Save As PDF. Frame 8 (Win 7 x64) reports that it cannot find the Adobe PDF printer driver. I know what happened … I had someone “helping me”, and that person “accidentally cleaned it up”. Needless to say, that person is no longer helping me! :) Meanwhile … how can I get this driver back. Do I download a complete Frame 8 installation and install
Urgent question re: SGML Framemaker
Is anyone aware of issues importing very large sgml files into Framemaker? For example, importing large government-provided DTD/FOSI templates? Framemaker is an established composition tool within the government regarding DoD technical manuals, but I've been asked to verify whether Framemaker is too limited to continue being used for SGML requirements on tech manuals. Does anyone have an opinion on this, as my experience with SGML in Frame is very limited? Thanks, Chris ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: TIME URGENT ... Missing Adobe PDF printer driver
There is an update function from the menu system for both FrameMaker (HelpUpdates) and Acrobat (HelpCheck for Updates). From FrameMaker this launches the Adobe Application Manager on my system which allows updates to all installed Adobe products. Craig From: VLM TechSubs [mailto:techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org] Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 7:25 PM To: craig...@hotmail.com; 'Böðvar Björgvinsson'; 'Framer's List' Subject: RE: TIME URGENT ... Missing Adobe PDF printer driver I assume that you mean an update function in the installer, yes? Ill have to look for that. Thanks, Elchanan From: Craig Ede [mailto:craig...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 6:30 AM To: 'Böðvar Björgvinsson'; 'VLM TechSubs'; 'Framer's List' Subject: RE: TIME URGENT ... Missing Adobe PDF printer driver The following worked for me: Make sure you select Acrobat (not Reader) as the application to open you PDFs. You can do this by selecting File Properties for any PDF. Update your Adobe FrameMaker and Acrobat applications via the update function. I think all this re-installation talk is overkill. Craig ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Adobe Application Manager WAS: TIME URGENT ... Missing Adobe PDF printer driver
The Adobe Application Manager can also be run directly from the start menu. This may not be available to everyone. It might be a part of either of the suites I am running (TCS 3 and CS6). Very handy for updating multiple applications. Craig From: Craig Ede [mailto:craig...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 8:13 PM To: 'VLM TechSubs'; 'Framer's List' Subject: RE: TIME URGENT ... Missing Adobe PDF printer driver There is an update function from the menu system for both FrameMaker (HelpUpdates) and Acrobat (HelpCheck for Updates). From FrameMaker this launches the Adobe Application Manager on my system which allows updates to all installed Adobe products. Craig ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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Re: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking
How about using printing characters, such as an en or em dash, on both sides? Start the autonumber format with a dash, and use a dash for the content? On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 9:09 AM, VLM TechSubs techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org wrote: Great suggestion, thanks Winfried. I have been working with all files open, because some have that font error message upon opening, and I haven’t taken time yet to fix that. And … as time goes by, I think/suspect increasingly that this problem has to do with linking to empty target paragraphs. Ergo, my request for input on nonprinting characters I might use to trick FM into thinking that those paras are not really empty. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking
Maybe what is happening is that you are closing the file without saving once the markers have been inserted. Craig From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder But the real point I want to make is that FrameMaker does not link to paragraphs; it *only* links to markers. When you create a cross-reference, FrameMaker gives you the option of viewing a list of all paragraphs of a particular style so that you can choose the targtet. But when you tell FrameMaker to make the cross-reference, it does *not* link to the paragraph itself. Instead, it links to a uniquely numbered marker that is located within that paragraph; and if no suitable marker exists, it automatically creates one for you. Whether the paragraph is empty or not can determine what is displayed at the referring end of the cross-reference (e.g., the autonumber and/or the text of the paragraph); but as far as the link itself is concerned, the only thing that matters is the location of marker with the matching ID. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Urgent question re: SGML Framemaker
Worked with some large projects, but the individual files were mostly fairly small or moderate. Are you talking GB plus? Alan On 1/10/13 6:00 AM, Chris Coggins wrote: Is anyone aware of issues importing very large sgml files into Framemaker? For example, importing large government-provided DTD/FOSI templates? Framemaker is an established composition tool within the government regarding DoD technical manuals, but I've been asked to verify whether Framemaker is too limited to continue being used for SGML requirements on tech manuals. Does anyone have an opinion on this, as my experience with SGML in Frame is very limited? Thanks, Chris ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as a...@alphabyte.co.nz. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alan%40alphabyte.co.nz Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- -- Dr Alan Litchfield AlphaByte PO Box 1941 Auckland, New Zealand 1140 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking
Ooo, yes. If you use text insets, any xref inside that text inset will be reported as broken even though it is valid. On Sep 30, 2013, at 18:14, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: Which source type are you using when you create the markers? Are there any text insets involved? On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 3:40 PM, VLM TechSubs techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org wrote: Greetings! I put xref markers in throughout a book. These markers are simple xrefs to other chapters, nothing fancy. I generate the book, all is well. After working for a while, I do another generate (sometimes with intervening generates that were fine), and all of a sudden, lots of broken xrefs. I fix them all, generate, and all is well. Several generates later, poof! A large number of broken xrefs again. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as qui...@airmail.net. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/quills%40airmail.net Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking
Not if you use X-Ref Markers in the Text Inset file. Alison -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Scott Turner Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 2:57 PM To: Robert Lauriston Cc: Framers Subject: Re: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking Ooo, yes. If you use text insets, any xref inside that text inset will be reported as broken even though it is valid. On Sep 30, 2013, at 18:14, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: Which source type are you using when you create the markers? Are there any text insets involved? On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 3:40 PM, VLM TechSubs techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org wrote: Greetings! I put xref markers in throughout a book. These markers are simple xrefs to other chapters, nothing fancy. I generate the book, all is well. After working for a while, I do another generate (sometimes with intervening generates that were fine), and all of a sudden, lots of broken xrefs. I fix them all, generate, and all is well. Several generates later, poof! A large number of broken xrefs again. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as qui...@airmail.net. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/quills%40airmail.n et Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alison.craig%40ultrasonix.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FrameMaker: Is any version URL-aware?
You can turn off the undesired automatic changes on the Autoformat as You Type tab. Here's instructions for Word 2007. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/word-help/use-automatic-formatting-as-you-type-HP010082297.aspx?CTT=5origin=HA010174646#BM1 On 30-Sep-13 8:57 PM, Craig Ede wrote: Thank god for that. I really get tired of hitting control-Z in Word to undo some change Word has automatically made to the text I'm entering. Craig From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Scott Turner Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 11:57 AM ... Unlike Microsoft, Adobe does not usually assume it knows what you want to do. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as shmue...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: script for batch PDF generation
DZbatcher is a free command line tool you can use to automate PDF generation. http://www.miramo.com/english/overview/download.html Here's the documentation for it: www.miramo.com/download/dzbatcher/documentation.pdf On 30-Sep-13 4:35 PM, Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp wrote: Hi all, I'm looking for a way to automate the pdf generation of FM books (unstructured) in FM11. Use case: 6 books, each in 24 languages to be printed to PDF once a day. Has anyone such a script (ExtendScript) available or knows of a plugin that performs it? Would be nice if the script will allow additional modification like importing variable definitions etc. I'm not sure if FMBatch still exists and can work with FM11? any suggestion appreciated….. Vriendelijke groet / Kind regards, Wim Hooghwinkel *Information Energy 2013 – Leading Conference on Innovation in Knowledge and Information Exchange* IEn2013 http://informationenergy.org/ tel. +31652036811 Skype wimhooghwinkel Twitter @idtp @ien2013 i...@idtp.eu mailto:i...@idtp.eu www.idtp.eu http://www.idtp.eu FrameMaker support: framema...@idtp.eu Op 23 aug. 2013, om 19:00 heeft framers-requ...@lists.frameusers.com mailto:framers-requ...@lists.frameusers.com het volgende geschreven: Send framers mailing list submissions to framers@lists.frameusers.com mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/listinfo/framers or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to framers-requ...@lists.frameusers.com You can reach the person managing the list at framers-ow...@lists.frameusers.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of framers digest... Today's Topics: 1. Hypertext links not working (dave.st...@gdc4s.com) 2. RE: Hypertext links not working (dave.st...@gdc4s.com) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 13:00:46 -0700 From: dave.st...@gdc4s.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Hypertext links not working Message-ID: 31a5a925033707429b15a6dac8bf48ba03541...@az25exm06.gddsi.com Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 2013-08-22-04T20:00Z Windows 7 Enterprise Service Pack 1 4?GB RAM 64-bit operating system FrameMaker 11.0.2.384 FrameMaker installed on workstation Folder and all files on a server on the local area network in accordance with corporate policy I am unable to consistently encode hypertext links among five files in one unstructured book. Here's how the files are arranged: NOTE: The .book file and all the target files are children of folder \Abc_Def. File BEGIN_HERE.fm is sibling of folder \Abc_Def and is to contain links to all four targets. Folder \Abc_Def File dir_Abc_Def.book File targetA.fm File targetB.fm File targetC.fm File targetD.fm File BEGIN_HERE.fm I moved File BEGIN_HERE.fm out of folder \Abc_Def because a recipient of the informational product (portable document format files) wants it that way. I am using a character tag to constrain both the newlinks and gotolinks to small amounts of text. Before I moved file BEGIN_HERE.fm out of folder \Abc_Def, crossreferences among all files worked flawlessly. My latest attempt has been to specify named destinations (for example, newlink dir_About.fm) and jumps to named destinations (for example, gotolink dir_About.fm). In the source .fm files, these jumps work only a small part of the time. In the deliverable .pdf files, they don't work at all. Dave Stamm Information Engineer -- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 04:39:13 -0700 From: dave.st...@gdc4s.com To: rob...@lauriston.com Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Hypertext links not working Message-ID: 31a5a925033707429b15a6dac8bf48ba03541...@az25exm06.gddsi.com Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii 2013-08-23-05T11:40Z Robert - Thanks for the info. I, too, haven't done this since years ago. So long ago, in fact that I've tracked down my materials from Shlomo Perets' training back in 2002. Yes, all the files are part of dir_Abc_Def.book. The odd thing, for myself, is that the child file, is outside the folder that contains the rest of the book. Nothing I've tried so far works, so I'm hoping that someone on the list can help me find the secret sauce that I'm missing from the recipe. Regards, Dave Stamm Information Engineer General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: 2013-08-22-Thursday 16:24 To: Stamm, David-P45904 Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Hypertext links not working I haven't done that sort of thing in some years, but it used to be that if you defined cross-references between .fm files in different directories, all the files had to be open when you saved a book as PDF. Also, the PDFs have to have the same relative
QUESTION ABOUT A NONPRINTING CHARACTER (WAS: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking)
Thanks Scott. I haven?t moved any files, and this was mass breakage of the links all at once. Which has given me an idea. Perhaps I should just put some nonprinting character into all those empty chapter heading paragraphs, so that they no longer appear empty to FrameMaker. QUESTION: What character to use. I don?t wish to alter the spacing (centering) of these headings. I could use a thin space, the effect of which on alignment would be minimal. But is there a nonprinting character I could use, that will not affect alignment at all and that will not have any adverse effect? Thanks to all, Elchanan From: Scott Turner [mailto:qui...@airmail.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:12 AM To: VLM TechSubs Cc: Framers Subject: Re: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking I never used version 8. And every time my xrefs broke it was either the xref marker had been deleted during editing or the relative path had been changed. Scott T. On Sep 30, 2013, at 17:40, "VLM TechSubs" wrote: Greetings! I put xref markers in throughout a book. These markers are simple xrefs to other chapters, nothing fancy. I generate the book, all is well. After working for a while, I do another generate (sometimes with intervening generates that were fine), and all of a sudden, lots of broken xrefs. I fix them all, generate, and all is well. Several generates later, poof! A large number of broken xrefs again. Has anyone else encountered something like this? Thanks, Elchanan ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as quills at airmail.net. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/quills%40airmail.net Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20131001/68dc9a63/attachment.html>
FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking
Hi Elchanan, If FrameMaker cannot open the target file, this may cause unresolved cross-references. Could it be that you have a file in the book which is closed and which triggers error messages when opened (e.g. missing fonts). Does it make a difference, if you open all files of the book? Best regards Winfried From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of VLM TechSubs Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:42 AM To: Framers Subject: RE: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking Perhaps I should add that this just happened when I added an index to the book. The process called for a generate, which I did. And now, lots of broken xrefs. I did change the index suffix, but I can't imagine that would cause the problem ... would it? From: VLM TechSubs [mailto:techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org] Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 3:41 PM To: Framers Subject: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking Greetings! I put xref markers in throughout a book. These markers are simple xrefs to other chapters, nothing fancy. I generate the book, all is well. After working for a while, I do another generate (sometimes with intervening generates that were fine), and all of a sudden, lots of broken xrefs. I fix them all, generate, and all is well. Several generates later, poof! A large number of broken xrefs again. Has anyone else encountered something like this? Thanks, Elchanan This e-mail contains privileged and confidential information intended for the use of the addressees named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in respect of any information contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and immediately destroy this e-mail and its attachments. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20131001/de3ac97c/attachment.html>
FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking
Great suggestion, thanks Winfried. I have been working with all files open, because some have that font error message upon opening, and I haven't taken time yet to fix that. And . as time goes by, I think/suspect increasingly that this problem has to do with linking to empty target paragraphs. Ergo, my request for input on nonprinting characters I might use to trick FM into thinking that those paras are not really empty. Thanks again! Elchanan From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Reng, Dr. Winfried Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:36 AM To: Framers Subject: RE: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking Hi Elchanan, If FrameMaker cannot open the target file, this may cause unresolved cross-references. Could it be that you have a file in the book which is closed and which triggers error messages when opened (e.g. missing fonts). Does it make a difference, if you open all files of the book? Best regards Winfried From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of VLM TechSubs Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:42 AM To: Framers Subject: RE: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking Perhaps I should add that this just happened when I added an index to the book. The process called for a generate, which I did. And now, lots of broken xrefs. I did change the index suffix, but I can't imagine that would cause the problem . would it? From: VLM TechSubs [mailto:techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org] Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 3:41 PM To: Framers Subject: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking Greetings! I put xref markers in throughout a book. These markers are simple xrefs to other chapters, nothing fancy. I generate the book, all is well. After working for a while, I do another generate (sometimes with intervening generates that were fine), and all of a sudden, lots of broken xrefs. I fix them all, generate, and all is well. Several generates later, poof! A large number of broken xrefs again. Has anyone else encountered something like this? Thanks, Elchanan _ This e-mail contains privileged and confidential information intended for the use of the addressees named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in respect of any information contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and immediately destroy this e-mail and its attachments. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20131001/27f94c4b/attachment.html>
TIME URGENT ... Missing Adobe PDF printer driver
Thanks Craig, I will look. But at this point, I may wait until the end of this project, as it draws near, and the Acrobat XI trial will get me that far. Best regards, Elchanan From: Craig Ede [mailto:craig...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 6:13 PM To: 'VLM TechSubs'; 'Framer's List' Subject: RE: TIME URGENT ... Missing Adobe PDF printer driver There is an update function from the menu system for both FrameMaker (Help>Updates) and Acrobat (Help>Check for Updates). From FrameMaker this launches the Adobe Application Manager on my system which allows updates to all installed Adobe products. Craig From: VLM TechSubs [mailto:techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org] Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 7:25 PM To: craigede at hotmail.com; 'B??var Bj?rgvinsson'; 'Framer's List' Subject: RE: TIME URGENT ... Missing Adobe PDF printer driver I assume that you mean an update function in the installer, yes? I?ll have to look for that. Thanks, Elchanan From: Craig Ede [mailto:craig...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 6:30 AM To: 'B??var Bj?rgvinsson'; 'VLM TechSubs'; 'Framer's List' Subject: RE: TIME URGENT ... Missing Adobe PDF printer driver The following worked for me: Make sure you select Acrobat (not Reader) as the application to open you PDFs. You can do this by selecting File > Properties for any PDF. Update your Adobe FrameMaker and Acrobat applications via the update function. I think all this re-installation talk is overkill. Craig -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20131001/72f23d11/attachment.html>
FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking
On 2013-Oct-01 12:09 PM, VLM TechSubs wrote: > Great suggestion, thanks Winfried. I have been working with all files > open, because some have that font error message upon opening, and I > haven?t taken time yet to fix that. And ? as time goes by, I > think/suspect increasingly that this problem has to do with linking to > empty target paragraphs. Ergo, my request for input on nonprinting > characters I might use to trick FM into thinking that those paras are > not really empty. > Elchanan, I really doubt that putting non-printing characters (or printing characters, for that matter) into your "empty" paragraphs will solve the problem. If the paragraph exists at all, then FM has assigned it a unique number and will use that number internally to create links. If the target has a cross-ref marker in it, then the pgf is also no longer empty but contains the marker with its own unique number for linking. You can see that for yourself if you open a .mif version of your files. Your "empty" paragraphs will take up several lines with content of this sort (from an "empty" pgf containing only a xref marker): > # end of Marker > # end of ParaLine > # end of Para There is some other cause for your broken links. Are you saving all open files after making corrections, before regenerating files? Have you tried generating a list of unresolved cross-references when the problem occurs? There may be clues in such a list. http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/8.0/index.html (search on Resolving cross-references) Best regards, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com
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Happy Birthday? Virtual persons invited!
Two weeks from tomorrow, on Wednesday October 16th, STC New England will celebrate the STC's formation 60 years ago with a look forward to the next 60 years. This special October monthly program will be led by award-winning science fiction author Michael Burnstein. The event will take place in Burlington, MA, but you do not need to be physically present to enjoy the program - you can register for the webinar-only attendance. Details are at http://www.stcnewengland.org john -- <http://www.actifio.com/>*John Sgammato, Documentation Architect* *e* john.sgammato at actifio.com *c* 508.927.2083 *t* @actifiodocs <http://twitter.com/actifiodocs> 333 Wyman Street, Waltham, MA 02451 <http://twitter.com/actifio> <http://www.linkedin.com/company/399246> <https://plus.google.com/102870897962348937868/posts> <http://www.youtube.com/user/actifio><http://www.actifio.com/> *Radically simple copy data management * *.** * -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20131001/3ea4ee7b/attachment.html>
FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking
How about using printing characters, such as an en or em dash, on both sides? Start the autonumber format with a dash, and use a dash for the content? On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 9:09 AM, VLM TechSubs wrote: > Great suggestion, thanks Winfried. I have been working with all files open, > because some have that font error message upon opening, and I haven?t taken > time yet to fix that. And ? as time goes by, I think/suspect increasingly > that this problem has to do with linking to empty target paragraphs. Ergo, > my request for input on nonprinting characters I might use to trick FM into > thinking that those paras are not really empty.
FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking
Maybe what is happening is that you are closing the file without saving once the markers have been inserted. Craig From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder But the real point I want to make is that FrameMaker does not link to paragraphs; it *only* links to markers. When you create a cross-reference, FrameMaker gives you the option of viewing a list of all paragraphs of a particular style so that you can choose the targtet. But when you tell FrameMaker to make the cross-reference, it does *not* link to the paragraph itself. Instead, it links to a uniquely numbered marker that is located within that paragraph; and if no suitable marker exists, it automatically creates one for you. Whether the paragraph is empty or not can determine what is displayed at the referring end of the cross-reference (e.g., the autonumber and/or the text of the paragraph); but as far as the link itself is concerned, the only thing that matters is the location of marker with the matching ID. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20131001/4736ffd5/attachment.html>
FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking
Ooo, yes. If you use text insets, any xref inside that text inset will be reported as "broken" even though it is valid. > On Sep 30, 2013, at 18:14, Robert Lauriston wrote: > > Which source type are you using when you create the markers? > > Are there any text insets involved? > > On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 3:40 PM, VLM TechSubs > wrote: >> Greetings! >> >> >> >> I put xref markers in throughout a book. These markers are simple xrefs to >> other chapters, nothing fancy. I generate the book, all is well. After >> working for a while, I do another generate (sometimes with intervening >> generates that were fine), and all of a sudden, lots of broken xrefs. I fix >> them all, generate, and all is well. Several generates later, poof! A large >> number of broken xrefs again. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as quills at airmail.net. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/quills%40airmail.net > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking
Not if you use X-Ref Markers in the Text Inset file. Alison -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Scott Turner Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 2:57 PM To: Robert Lauriston Cc: Framers Subject: Re: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking Ooo, yes. If you use text insets, any xref inside that text inset will be reported as "broken" even though it is valid. > On Sep 30, 2013, at 18:14, Robert Lauriston wrote: > > Which source type are you using when you create the markers? > > Are there any text insets involved? > > On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 3:40 PM, VLM TechSubs > wrote: >> Greetings! >> >> >> >> I put xref markers in throughout a book. These markers are simple >> xrefs to other chapters, nothing fancy. I generate the book, all is >> well. After working for a while, I do another generate (sometimes >> with intervening generates that were fine), and all of a sudden, lots >> of broken xrefs. I fix them all, generate, and all is well. Several >> generates later, poof! A large number of broken xrefs again. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as quills at airmail.net. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/quills%40airmail.n > et > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as alison.craig at ultrasonix.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alison.craig%40ultrasonix.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
TIME URGENT ... Missing Adobe PDF printer driver
If there is an FrameMaker update, installing it would probably repair the Save as PDF functionality, just as reinstalling would. What application you have set to open PDFs is irrelevant.
FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking
I never used version 8. And every time my xrefs broke it was either the xref marker had been deleted during editing or the relative path had been changed. Scott T. > On Sep 30, 2013, at 17:40, "VLM TechSubs" VibrantLivingMinistries.org> wrote: > > Greetings! > > I put xref markers in throughout a book. These markers are simple xrefs to > other chapters, nothing fancy. I generate the book, all is well. After > working for a while, I do another generate (sometimes with intervening > generates that were fine), and all of a sudden, lots of broken xrefs. I fix > them all, generate, and all is well. Several generates later, poof! A large > number of broken xrefs again. > > Has anyone else encountered something like this? > > Thanks, > Elchanan > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as quills at airmail.net. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/quills%40airmail.net > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20131001/b0cf4234/attachment.html>
