Re: Character Tag As Is setting--isn't
This is a very old FrameMaker bug. When you set everything to As Is, the text size doesn't show As Is, but it does function as As Is. It's just a display problem. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 On 14-Nov-13 12:05 AM, Beverly Robinson wrote: FrameMaker 10.0.2.419 on Windows 7 64-bit My template has a character tag, Hyperlink, that makes text blue. The Size setting had been at 11 pt, the size for Body paragraphs. Recently I needed to use the tag in a cross-reference in a table footnote. Table footnotes are 9 pt. So I changed the Size setting to As Is but: ·After clicking As Is, the Size control doesn’t say “As Is”—it’s blank. ·Hyperlink text in table footnotes is larger than 9 pt. FrameMaker help says nothing about this anomaly and I didn’t see anything similar in the first 5 pages on the FrameMaker user forum. Has anyone else run into this? Found a solution? Thanks for your help, Beverly ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as shmue...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Looking for FrameMaker SGML Help
Hello Framers, I have a bunch of SGML files and a DTD and some entity files, etc. I need help setting up a FrameMaker 10 or 11 application so that I can open the SGML files with FrameMaker. I am not concerned about formatting; I can develop the EDD as I go. But it is important that I can open the files and work with the structure. I have budget for this, but I need to get it done as soon as I can. Thanks! Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-366-4017 **NEW** r...@frameexpert.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Character Tag As Is setting--isn't
As often is the case, Fred came through with a thorough, understandable explanation and the process for fixing my problem. Thanks, Fred-and others who responded on- and off-list. Beverly From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 4:31 PM To: Beverly Robinson; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Character Tag As Is setting--isn't You've identified one of the long-standing inconsistencies in the FrameMaker UI. In the Size box of the Character Designer dialog, the as is state is indicated by emptiness. Same with Spread and Stretch. All three of these properties allow a continuous range of values rather than being picked from a finite list, and I suspect that this fact complicated the ability to explicitly indicate As Is in the box for some reason. If you have already applied the Hyperlink tag to anything when it had a specified size of 11 pt, that size is now a property of the text. It will not change when you redefine the character format of the tag to be as is because the as is size is 11 pt. If the character tag is applied within the cross-reference format, I believe you'll need to reinsert the cross-reference to get the oversize characters to revert to the underlying paragraph specification for your table footnote. -Fred Ridder From: beverly_robin...@datacard.commailto:beverly_robin...@datacard.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 16:05:22 -0600 Subject: Character Tag As Is setting--isn't FrameMaker 10.0.2.419 on Windows 7 64-bit My template has a character tag, Hyperlink, that makes text blue. The Size setting had been at 11 pt, the size for Body paragraphs. Recently I needed to use the tag in a cross-reference in a table footnote. Table footnotes are 9 pt. So I changed the Size setting to As Is but: * After clicking As Is, the Size control doesn't say As Is-it's blank. * Hyperlink text in table footnotes is larger than 9 pt. FrameMaker help says nothing about this anomaly and I didn't see anything similar in the first 5 pages on the FrameMaker user forum. Has anyone else run into this? Found a solution? Thanks for your help, Beverly ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as docu...@hotmail.commailto:docu...@hotmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.commailto:listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Looking for FrameMaker SGML Help
This could be utter baloney, but it might work... Just change the declarations to XML declarations and try opening the files. If you don't need to round-trip back to the SGML that might just do it for you... Sloppy and funky, but what the hey? cud ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Not selecting the entire word in Frame
I'm using Frame 10. I work with keyboard shortcuts a lot. When I'm editing, I often put the cursor in a word then hit Ctrl+Shift+left arrow, to highlight the part of the word I want to change. I would have sworn that, until a few minutes ago, this would select only the part of the word from the cursor to the beginning of the word. But now it's selecting the entire word. I can't find how to set a preference to indicate how I want Frame to behave. In Word, there's the option When selecting, automatically select entire word. I thought there was something similar in Frame. Have I been hallucinating? Thanks. Michael Schwartz Teradyne___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Character Tag As Is setting--isn't
Well, it is extremely useful to have character format definitions that leave certain issues undefined. The bug (old, indeed) is, that the as is used here is the same as is that is used for redefining formats (like for para or table formats). It is necessary to keep this in mind when working with character formats. You always have to put everything in that is intended to be used. My advice: Make character formats as simple as possible, by defining only the new color (here = Blue), or a new font size, or new weight. The less properties are defined the better the format can be used. Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin Shmuel Wolfson: This is a very old FrameMaker bug. When you set everything to As Is, the text size doesn't show As Is, but it does function as As Is. It's just a display problem. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 On 14-Nov-13 12:05 AM, Beverly Robinson wrote: FrameMaker 10.0.2.419 on Windows 7 64-bit My template has a character tag, Hyperlink, that makes text blue. The Size setting had been at 11 pt, the size for Body paragraphs. Recently I needed to use the tag in a cross-reference in a table footnote. Table footnotes are 9 pt. So I changed the Size setting to As Is but: ·After clicking As Is, the Size control doesn't say As Is--it's blank. ·Hyperlink text in table footnotes is larger than 9 pt. FrameMaker help says nothing about this anomaly and I didn't see anything similar in the first 5 pages on the FrameMaker user forum. Has anyone else run into this? Found a solution? Thanks for your help, Beverly ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as shmue...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com [1 ] Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ [2] for more resources and info. ___ Links: -- [1] http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com [2] http://www.frameusers.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Looking for FrameMaker SGML Help
I work primarily with Large XML documents that are read into FrameMaker to produce PDF book files that are sent to commercial printers, or processed for online document and data applications. I have a slow down at this time and would be glad to help out. Rick, as you and Craig know, I know more about the XML structured processing than unstructured Frame itself. But thanks to you and Craig this year I'm getting pretty good with the features of unstructured Frame Editing as well. You have my number, give me a call. Ed Nodland On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Chris Despopoulos despopoulos_chr...@yahoo.com wrote: This could be utter baloney, but it might work... Just change the declarations to XML declarations and try opening the files. If you don't need to round-trip back to the SGML that might just do it for you... Sloppy and funky, but what the hey? cud ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as enodl...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/enodland%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Character Tag "As Is" setting--isn't
This is a very old FrameMaker bug. When you set everything to As Is, the text size doesn't show As Is, but it does function as As Is. It's just a display problem. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 On 14-Nov-13 12:05 AM, Beverly Robinson wrote: > > FrameMaker 10.0.2.419 on Windows 7 64-bit > > My template has a character tag, Hyperlink, that makes text blue. The > Size setting had been at 11 pt, the size for Body paragraphs. Recently > I needed to use the tag in a cross-reference in a table footnote. > Table footnotes are 9 pt. So I changed the Size setting to As Is but: > > ?After clicking As Is, the Size control doesn?t say ?As Is??it?s blank. > > ?Hyperlink text in table footnotes is larger than 9 pt. > > FrameMaker help says nothing about this anomaly and I didn?t see > anything similar in the first 5 pages on the FrameMaker user forum. > > Has anyone else run into this? Found a solution? > > Thanks for your help, > > Beverly > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as shmuelw1 at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Looking for FrameMaker SGML Help
Hello Framers, I have a bunch of SGML files and a DTD and some entity files, etc. I need help setting up a FrameMaker 10 or 11 application so that I can open the SGML files with FrameMaker. I am not concerned about formatting; I can develop the EDD as I go. But it is important that I can open the files and work with the structure. I have budget for this, but I need to get it done as soon as I can. Thanks! Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-366-4017 **NEW** rick at frameexpert.com
Character Tag "As Is" setting--isn't
As often is the case, Fred came through with a thorough, understandable explanation and the process for fixing my problem. Thanks, Fred-and others who responded on- and off-list. Beverly From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 4:31 PM To: Beverly Robinson; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Character Tag "As Is" setting--isn't You've identified one of the long-standing inconsistencies in the FrameMaker UI. In the Size box of the Character Designer dialog, the "as is" state is indicated by emptiness. Same with Spread and Stretch. All three of these properties allow a continuous range of values rather than being picked from a finite list, and I suspect that this fact complicated the ability to explicitly indicate "As Is" in the box for some reason. If you have already applied the Hyperlink tag to anything when it had a specified size of 11 pt, that size is now a property of the text. It will not change when you redefine the character format of the tag to be "as is" because the "as is" size is 11 pt. If the character tag is applied within the cross-reference format, I believe you'll need to reinsert the cross-reference to get the oversize characters to revert to the underlying paragraph specification for your table footnote. -Fred Ridder From: beverly_robinson at datacard.com<mailto:beverly_robin...@datacard.com> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 16:05:22 -0600 Subject: Character Tag "As Is" setting--isn't FrameMaker 10.0.2.419 on Windows 7 64-bit My template has a character tag, Hyperlink, that makes text blue. The Size setting had been at 11 pt, the size for Body paragraphs. Recently I needed to use the tag in a cross-reference in a table footnote. Table footnotes are 9 pt. So I changed the Size setting to As Is but: * After clicking As Is, the Size control doesn't say "As Is"-it's blank. * Hyperlink text in table footnotes is larger than 9 pt. FrameMaker help says nothing about this anomaly and I didn't see anything similar in the first 5 pages on the FrameMaker user forum. Has anyone else run into this? Found a solution? Thanks for your help, Beverly ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as DocuDoc at hotmail.com<mailto:DocuDoc at hotmail.com>. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com> or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com<mailto:listadmin at frameusers.com>. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20131114/234e88d4/attachment.html>
Looking for FrameMaker SGML Help
This could be utter baloney, but it might work...? Just change the declarations to XML declarations and try opening the files.? If you don't need to round-trip back to the SGML that might just do it for you...? Sloppy and funky, but what the hey? cud -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20131114/b58bd331/attachment.html>
Character Tag "As Is" setting--isn't
Well, it is extremely useful to have character format definitions that leave certain issues undefined. The bug (old, indeed) is, that the "as is" used here is the same "as is" that is used for redefining formats (like for para or table formats). It is necessary to keep this in mind when working with character formats. You always have to put everything in that is intended to be used. My advice: Make character formats as simple as possible, by defining only the new color (here = Blue), or a new font size, or new weight. The less properties are defined the better the format can be used. Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin Shmuel Wolfson: > This is a very old FrameMaker bug. When you set everything to As Is, the > text size doesn't show As Is, but it does function as As Is. It's just a > display problem. > > Regards, > Shmuel Wolfson > Technical Writer > 052-763-7133 > > On 14-Nov-13 12:05 AM, Beverly Robinson wrote: > >> FrameMaker 10.0.2.419 on Windows 7 64-bit My template has a character tag, >> Hyperlink, that makes text blue. The Size setting had been at 11 pt, the >> size for Body paragraphs. Recently I needed to use the tag in a >> cross-reference in a table footnote. Table footnotes are 9 pt. So I changed >> the Size setting to As Is but: ?After clicking As Is, the Size control >> doesn't say "As Is"--it's blank. ?Hyperlink text in table footnotes is >> larger than 9 pt. FrameMaker help says nothing about this anomaly and I >> didn't see anything similar in the first 5 pages on the FrameMaker user >> forum. Has anyone else run into this? Found a solution? Thanks for your >> help, Beverly ___ You are >> currently subscribed to framers as shmuelw1 at gmail.com. Send list messages >> to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com [1 ] Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ [2] for more resources and info. > > ___ Links: -- [1] http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com [2] http://www.frameusers.com/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20131114/19aa0f89/attachment.html>
FrameMaker trainer
Hi, We look for a FrameMaker 10 trainer. It will be celebrated at our office in Argentina (Buenos Aires). The training sessions will be in spanish. Please contact with purificacionrg at meta4.com<mailto:purificacionrg at meta4.com> or by phone: +34 916025106. Thank you -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20131114/133761ef/attachment.html>
Looking for FrameMaker SGML Help
I work primarily with Large XML documents that are read into FrameMaker to produce PDF book files that are sent to commercial printers, or processed for online document and data applications. I have a slow down at this time and would be glad to help out. Rick, as you and Craig know, I know more about the XML structured processing than unstructured Frame itself. But thanks to you and Craig this year I'm getting pretty good with the features of unstructured Frame Editing as well. You have my number, give me a call. Ed Nodland On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Chris Despopoulos < despopoulos_chriss at yahoo.com> wrote: > This could be utter baloney, but it might work... Just change the > declarations to XML declarations and try opening the files. If you don't > need to round-trip back to the SGML that might just do it for you... > Sloppy and funky, but what the hey? > > cud > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as enodland at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/enodland%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20131114/a90cb877/attachment.html>
