Re: adjusting an underline (underscore)
You can draw a line inside of an anchored frame. Insert the anchored frame as "outside column," move the frame boundaries to be under the text, then draw a line in the anchored frame. If insert the frame this way, the frame will move with the paragraph when you add or remove text before the paragraph. Another option is to put the text in a table and add a bottom border to the table. Neither option is very elegant. Hope this was clear enough. If not, let me know. Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 On 29-Apr-14 10:46 PM, Ken Poshedly wrote: FrameMaker 11 Can an underline be adjusted to increase the space between the underline and the text directly above the underline ? Next obvious question: If the answer is yes, then how to do it? -- Ken in Atlanta ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as shmue...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Contextual Help Links Breaking?
Sounds more like a WebWorks issue than a FM one. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Butcher Sent: April-24-14 8:42 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Contextual Help Links Breaking? Hi - I have contextual help links on the topic headers of my FrameMaker 11 file that I output to an ePublisher WebWorks help file. I have not touched them because the application's interface has not changed. Yet, for some reason, the file will no longer branch to these help links. I have checked my Frame file and the topic alias' seem to be in place yet they do not seem to be working. When I look at a previous version of the file, it works fine. Yet they do not want to work in my current and updated version. Any thoughts on this? Thanks, Tammy ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: RoboHelp links (from FM) appearing without a link destination
You’re probably running into an “undocumented feature” that TCS has – there’s a finite path length of around 35 characters that the xrefs to FM files can have before they break in RH. As a test, try taking a copy of your FM source and putting it on your root c:\ drive, then either import or link the content into a test RH project. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of John G Sent: April-27-14 3:29 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RoboHelp links (from FM) appearing without a link destination Using Adobe TCS Suite 4 - FrameMaker 11, RoboHelp 10 I have a problem where cross-refs from one FM chapter to another chapter in the same book are not being turned into links in the RH output. In the FM files, I verified all the links are fine - no broken cross-refs. When I generate a PDF from the FM book, all the cross-refs work. After updating the files in RH, the file Design view shows the links with the link text in blue and underlined, but there's no Hyperlink properties on the right-click menu, and HTML view shows that it's missing the href that specifies the link destination. There is a corresponding Japanese version for the documents and the same is happening there as well making me think it's more likely in FM than in RH. Somewhere there is either * a setting telling RH not to include the link destination for some links, or * a setting in FM telling it not to export the link destination for links to other FM files Any ideas where this might be? Also - any suggestions about what I could copy from another project to fix this? Help please - this was due yesterday ... [https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/images/cleardot.gif] ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: RoboHelp links (from FM) appearing without a link destination
Took a few years to figure that one out – I would occasionally notice that links that were valid xrefs in my FM source would be dead links in my WebHelp output. From: vwrit...@gmail.com [mailto:vwrit...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of John G Sent: April-30-14 8:33 AM To: Jeff Coatsworth Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: RoboHelp links (from FM) appearing without a link destination Thanks, Jeff - that indeed was the problem. Nice feature indeed. JG On Wednesday, April 30, 2014, Jeff Coatsworth jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.commailto:jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com wrote: You’re probably running into an “undocumented feature” that TCS has – there’s a finite path length of around 35 characters that the xrefs to FM files can have before they break in RH. As a test, try taking a copy of your FM source and putting it on your root c:\ drive, then either import or link the content into a test RH project. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com'); [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com');] On Behalf Of John G Sent: April-27-14 3:29 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','framers@lists.frameusers.com'); Subject: RoboHelp links (from FM) appearing without a link destination Using Adobe TCS Suite 4 - FrameMaker 11, RoboHelp 10 I have a problem where cross-refs from one FM chapter to another chapter in the same book are not being turned into links in the RH output. In the FM files, I verified all the links are fine - no broken cross-refs. When I generate a PDF from the FM book, all the cross-refs work. After updating the files in RH, the file Design view shows the links with the link text in blue and underlined, but there's no Hyperlink properties on the right-click menu, and HTML view shows that it's missing the href that specifies the link destination. There is a corresponding Japanese version for the documents and the same is happening there as well making me think it's more likely in FM than in RH. Somewhere there is either * a setting telling RH not to include the link destination for some links, or * a setting in FM telling it not to export the link destination for links to other FM files Any ideas where this might be? Also - any suggestions about what I could copy from another project to fix this? Help please - this was due yesterday ... [https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/images/cleardot.gif] ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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Re: URL Checker
You got me thinking about this. Here's some really basic ExtendScript
code that will iterate over all markers and check the text of message
URL Hypertext markers to see if they are valid files (on the local file
system). This would need to be cleaned up a bit to make it useful, but
definitely doable ..
var doc = app.ActiveDoc;
var marker = doc.FirstMarkerInDoc;
while (marker.id) {
if (marker.MarkerTypeId.Name == Hypertext) {
var markerText = marker.MarkerText;
if (markerText.substr(0,11) == message URL) {
var target = markerText.substr(12);
// tests for local files
var file = File(target);
if (file.exists) {
Console(GOOD [+target+]);
} else {
Console(BAD [+target+]);
}
}
}
marker = marker.NextMarkerInDoc;
}
It turns out that you can test for remote (web-based) URLs using the
Socket object.
Cheers,
...scott
On 4/29/14 5:55 PM, Scott Prentice wrote:
Hi John...
Interesting.
First, you'd have to define what it means for a link to be valid.
Are these URLs to content on a web server? If so, does valid mean that
it doesn't return a 404 error (page not found)? Or do you need to know
that the page actually has the content that you expected it to .. in
which case you might want to be able to scan the content at the target
URL for text that matches the link text?
Or .. am I blowing this out of proportion, and you're just looking on
a local file system for a matching file name?
If the latter, ExtendScript should be able to do what you need, if the
former, you might need a bit more processing power like an FDK client.
I'll be interested to see if anyone else has done this sort of thing.
If you need help developing such a script/utility .. give me a holler.
Cheers,
...scott
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On 4/28/14 12:11 PM, john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com wrote:
Hi, guys...FM 11.
I have a section in my books that is just pages and pages of links to text,
sql, excel, and PDF files that are out on our Sharepoint system.
As we go forward, the links are becoming a maintenance issue. While I know
I cannot automate the creation of the links, I'd like to have something
that can validate my links.
Each link is defined as a Go to URL hyperlink and it is an absolute link,
not relative.
Has anyone done this kind of scripting?
Thanks
John X Posada
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Re: adjusting an underline (underscore)
On 2014-Apr-29 3:46 PM, Ken Poshedly wrote: FrameMaker 11 Can an underline be adjusted to increase the space between the underline and the text directly above the underline ? Next obvious question: If the answer is yes, then how to do it? Not sure if Klaus's tip might help? http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker51.html -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: RoboHelp links (from FM) appearing without a link destination
I’ll mention that this is precisely the problem with FM8/RH9 that I ran into a month or two ago. Adobe was proactive in reaching out to me offline (woot!), but the eventual answer was (paraphrased) “It’s a bug. You need to upgrade.” Not helpful with my company’s current cashflow. The interesting thing was that links within a chapter worked, but not links to a separate file. I eventually combined my chapters into a single file. I had the latitude to do that with only three chapters; YMMV. I wish you luck. :/ Lea Rush Software and Documentation Specialist Astoria-Pacific www.astoria-pacific.comhttp://www.astoria-pacific.com/ P: 800-536-3111, +1-503-657-3010 Please consider the environment before printing this email. `·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸ º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸º NOTICE OF CONFIDENTIALITY This communication is from Astoria-Pacific and is intended to be confidential and solely for the use of the persons or entities addressed above. If you are not an intended recipient, be aware that the information contained herein may be protected from unauthorized use by privilege or law, and any copying, distribution, disclosure, or other use of this information is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender by return email or telephone (503) 657-3010 immediately, and delete or destroy all copies. Thank you for your cooperation. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of John G Sent: April 27, 2014 12:29 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RoboHelp links (from FM) appearing without a link destination Using Adobe TCS Suite 4 - FrameMaker 11, RoboHelp 10 I have a problem where cross-refs from one FM chapter to another chapter in the same book are not being turned into links in the RH output. In the FM files, I verified all the links are fine - no broken cross-refs. When I generate a PDF from the FM book, all the cross-refs work. After updating the files in RH, the file Design view shows the links with the link text in blue and underlined, but there's no Hyperlink properties on the right-click menu, and HTML view shows that it's missing the href that specifies the link destination. There is a corresponding Japanese version for the documents and the same is happening there as well making me think it's more likely in FM than in RH. Somewhere there is either * a setting telling RH not to include the link destination for some links, or * a setting in FM telling it not to export the link destination for links to other FM files Any ideas where this might be? Also - any suggestions about what I could copy from another project to fix this? Help please - this was due yesterday ... [https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/images/cleardot.gif] ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: RoboHelp links (from FM) appearing without a link destination
There’s also another similar bug out there that involves text insets. If your doc has xrefs, then a text inset, then more xrefs after it, the xrefs before the text inset will be turned into working hyperlinks, but the ones after the text inset will fail in much the same way as the “too long path” bug – i.e. they look like links, but don’t act like links. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lea Rush Sent: April-30-14 1:26 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: RoboHelp links (from FM) appearing without a link destination I’ll mention that this is precisely the problem with FM8/RH9 that I ran into a month or two ago. Adobe was proactive in reaching out to me offline (woot!), but the eventual answer was (paraphrased) “It’s a bug. You need to upgrade.” Not helpful with my company’s current cashflow. The interesting thing was that links within a chapter worked, but not links to a separate file. I eventually combined my chapters into a single file. I had the latitude to do that with only three chapters; YMMV. I wish you luck. :/ Lea Rush Software and Documentation Specialist Astoria-Pacific www.astoria-pacific.comhttp://www.astoria-pacific.com/ P: 800-536-3111, +1-503-657-3010 Please consider the environment before printing this email. `·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸ º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸º NOTICE OF CONFIDENTIALITY This communication is from Astoria-Pacific and is intended to be confidential and solely for the use of the persons or entities addressed above. If you are not an intended recipient, be aware that the information contained herein may be protected from unauthorized use by privilege or law, and any copying, distribution, disclosure, or other use of this information is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender by return email or telephone (503) 657-3010 immediately, and delete or destroy all copies. Thank you for your cooperation. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of John G Sent: April 27, 2014 12:29 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RoboHelp links (from FM) appearing without a link destination Using Adobe TCS Suite 4 - FrameMaker 11, RoboHelp 10 I have a problem where cross-refs from one FM chapter to another chapter in the same book are not being turned into links in the RH output. In the FM files, I verified all the links are fine - no broken cross-refs. When I generate a PDF from the FM book, all the cross-refs work. After updating the files in RH, the file Design view shows the links with the link text in blue and underlined, but there's no Hyperlink properties on the right-click menu, and HTML view shows that it's missing the href that specifies the link destination. There is a corresponding Japanese version for the documents and the same is happening there as well making me think it's more likely in FM than in RH. Somewhere there is either * a setting telling RH not to include the link destination for some links, or * a setting in FM telling it not to export the link destination for links to other FM files Any ideas where this might be? Also - any suggestions about what I could copy from another project to fix this? Help please - this was due yesterday ... [https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/images/cleardot.gif] ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: URL Checker
John and Scott (and Rick),
I have a sample ExtendScript that uses the Socket object, called
NETWORK_-_Retrieve_text_over_network.jsx. It retrieves text from a
webpage and sticks it into a document. It could be easily modified to
just look for the 200 OK message. All in all, this would be a very short
and generally simple script for an experienced developer. A great idea
for a script, really. I should add it to the group. I could use it
myself.
http://www.weststreetconsulting.com/WSC_ExtendScriptSamples.htm
Russ
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Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 09:46:55 -0700
From: Scott Prentice s...@leximation.com
To: john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com, framers
Subject: Re: URL Checker
Message-ID: 536128ff.2060...@leximation.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; Format=flowed
You got me thinking about this. Here's some really basic ExtendScript
code that will iterate over all markers and check the text of message
URL Hypertext markers to see if they are valid files (on the local file
system). This would need to be cleaned up a bit to make it useful, but
definitely doable ..
var doc = app.ActiveDoc;
var marker = doc.FirstMarkerInDoc;
while (marker.id) {
if (marker.MarkerTypeId.Name == Hypertext) {
var markerText = marker.MarkerText;
if (markerText.substr(0,11) == message URL) {
var target = markerText.substr(12);
// tests for local files
var file = File(target);
if (file.exists) {
Console(GOOD [+target+]);
} else {
Console(BAD [+target+]);
}
}
}
marker = marker.NextMarkerInDoc;
}
It turns out that you can test for remote (web-based) URLs using the
Socket object.
Cheers,
...scott
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RE: URL Checker
Hi Russ,
Thanks for including me in your response. I wasn't aware of the Socket
object, but I just tried your script and it works great! This opens up
possibilities for some interesting applications. Thanks again.
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
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Subject: Re: URL Checker
John and Scott (and Rick),
I have a sample ExtendScript that uses the Socket object, called
NETWORK_-_Retrieve_text_over_network.jsx. It retrieves text from a webpage
and sticks it into a document. It could be easily modified to just look for
the 200 OK message. All in all, this would be a very short and generally
simple script for an experienced developer. A great idea for a script,
really. I should add it to the group. I could use it myself.
http://www.weststreetconsulting.com/WSC_ExtendScriptSamples.htm
Russ
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Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 09:46:55 -0700
From: Scott Prentice s...@leximation.com
To: john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com, framers
Subject: Re: URL Checker
Message-ID: 536128ff.2060...@leximation.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; Format=flowed
You got me thinking about this. Here's some really basic ExtendScript code
that will iterate over all markers and check the text of message URL
Hypertext markers to see if they are valid files (on the local file
system). This would need to be cleaned up a bit to make it useful, but
definitely doable ..
var doc = app.ActiveDoc;
var marker = doc.FirstMarkerInDoc;
while (marker.id) {
if (marker.MarkerTypeId.Name == Hypertext) { var markerText =
marker.MarkerText; if (markerText.substr(0,11) == message URL) { var
target = markerText.substr(12); // tests for local files var file =
File(target); if (file.exists) { Console(GOOD [+target+]); } else {
Console(BAD [+target+]); } } } marker = marker.NextMarkerInDoc; }
It turns out that you can test for remote (web-based) URLs using the Socket
object.
Cheers,
...scott
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