Re: Acrobat 10 menus

2014-12-10 Thread Klaus Daube



On 9 Dec 2014 at 11:07, john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com wrote:


 Can someone send me a image of what an uncrippled Acrobat 10 menu bar
 looks like?
 
 The one that has File Edit View ...etc.


Hi John,


I do not have Acrobat 10, but 11 and there I was also disappointed about the menu. 
Compared to Acro 9 much has gone - has to be set up via customise to have the tools 
available either in the tool bar or in a custom tools panel:








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RE: Acrobat 10 menus

2014-12-10 Thread Craig, Alison
I have to agree.

I despise the new setup - you are forced to use your mouse way too much.

Alison


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Subject: Re: Acrobat 10 menus

On 9 Dec 2014 at 11:07, 
john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.commailto:john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com wrote:

 Can someone send me a image of what an uncrippled Acrobat 10 menu bar
 looks like?

 The one that has   File  Edit  View ...etc.

Hi John,

I do not have Acrobat 10, but 11 and there I was also disappointed about the 
menu. Compared to Acro 9 much has gone - has to be set up via customise to have 
the tools available either in the tool bar or in a custom tools panel:

[graphic]

[graphic]

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RE: Persist a variable to the next file

2014-12-10 Thread john . x . posada
OK...I have some time...let me go into greater detail. If there are holes
in my explanation, attribute it to confidentiality.

I have 5 main Lines of Business (LOBs) documented and arranged in Books;
will call them Book 2, Book 3, Book 4, Book 5, and Book 6. I also have a
Book 1, which contains methodology and procedure chapters that are common
to all LOBs.

Within each Book 2 through 6, there are Products (Style:
ChapterHeading)...between 8 to 30 products; depending on the LOB

Within each Product, there are 5 specific Sections (Style: Heading1);
standard sections by title but different content each time

Follow so far?

When I do a compiled book for LOB 1, from the Framemaker Book panel, I
include Book 1 and Book 2, excluding Book 3 through 6
When I do a compiled book for LOB 2, from the Framemaker Book panel, I
include Book 1 and Book 3, excluding Book 2 and Book 4 through 6
etc.

Now...sometimes I need to output a Mini-Book. A specific LOB, with only
specific Products, with only specific Sections, usually on the request of a
regulatory request.

Because of the way I have the files set up, I simply Include only what I
need and Generate

My total document is almost 7,000 pages. using this system, I can generate
a specific book with from 10 to 1500 pages in less than a half hour and
know exactly what is in the book, not more and not less..

John X Posada



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Text Inset vs. Variable Question (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-12-10 Thread Zacchetti, Maeli E CIV USARMY ECBC (US)
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: FOUO

I'm getting back to unstructured FrameMaker 10 (after two years of having to 
use MS Word). So apologies if I don't use some of the correct terms or if I'm 
misunderstanding some of FrameMaker's capabilities!

I'm doing the planning work for converting a technical manual from MS Word into 
FrameMaker 10. The system has over 100 parts, currently each part has two to 
five different variations on the name scattered throughout the manual, so a 
huge component of this conversion is getting the nomenclature down to a single 
version of each part name. Since most of the names will change at some point in 
the next year my goal is a single point of edit for each part name, to save 
some headaches down the road.

On previous projects I've used ~20 part name variables (created in a master 
file, then applied to each *.fm file through a book update) and then inserted 
that part's variable any time I need to use the part name.  For this project 
with 100+ parts it seems like that could start getting painful, just in terms 
of scrolling through a massive variable list.

I was thinking that I could use text insets as another option, if it were 
possible to import from a single cell in a table (e.g. excel file). That would 
let me use the spreadsheet that I'd have to create anyway for planning out the 
variables (and internal tracking of what name I'm assigning to a given part 
number).

In the past I've used text insets to reference repeated short paragraphs, using 
a series of individual text documents to hold each paragraph. So I guess I 
could do the same thing again, but then I'd end up with 100+ text files, which 
seems like a different kind of inconvenient compared to the 100+ variables.

One major limitation: with my organization's network policies I cannot install 
3rd party software, and the review and approval process to purchase extensions 
or supplements to Adobe's software would be so arduous that it may as well be 
impossible. So I'm limited to what I can do without having to install anything 
else.

Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated! (Or even advice on where I 
could go to read up on the various ways to effectively manage nomenclature 
updates in unstructured FrameMaker.)


Thanks,

Maeli Zacchetti

maeli.e.zacchetti@mail.mil
Technical Writer
U.S. Army

In modern times, if the sole measure
of what's out there flows from your five senses
then a precarious life awaits you.
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Re: Text Inset vs. Variable Question (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-12-10 Thread Mike Wickham
It sounds like you are on the right track, using a single file to create 
variables and then importing them. Too bad you can't install third party 
software, because I think the only way to make this easier would be to 
use the inexpensive BookVars plugin:


http://leximation.com/tools/info/bookvars.php

Mike Wickham

On 12/10/2014 1:58 PM, Zacchetti, Maeli E CIV USARMY ECBC (US) wrote:

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: FOUO

I'm getting back to unstructured FrameMaker 10 (after two years of 
having to use MS Word). So apologies if I don't use some of the 
correct terms or if I'm misunderstanding some of FrameMaker's 
capabilities!


I'm doing the planning work for converting a technical manual from MS 
Word into FrameMaker 10. The system has over 100 parts, currently each 
part has two to five different variations on the name scattered 
throughout the manual, so a huge component of this conversion is 
getting the nomenclature down to a single version of each part name. 
Since most of the names will change at some point in the next year my 
goal is a single point of edit for each part name, to save some 
headaches down the road.


On previous projects I've used ~20 part name variables (created in a 
master file, then applied to each *.fm file through a book update) and 
then inserted that part's variable any time I need to use the part 
name.  For this project with 100+ parts it seems like that could start 
getting painful, just in terms of scrolling through a massive variable 
list.


I was thinking that I could use text insets as another option, if it 
were possible to import from a single cell in a table (e.g. excel 
file). That would let me use the spreadsheet that I'd have to create 
anyway for planning out the variables (and internal tracking of what 
name I'm assigning to a given part number).


In the past I've used text insets to reference repeated short 
paragraphs, using a series of individual text documents to hold each 
paragraph. So I guess I could do the same thing again, but then I'd 
end up with 100+ text files, which seems like a different kind of 
inconvenient compared to the 100+ variables.


One major limitation: with my organization's network policies I cannot 
install 3^rd party software, and the review and approval process to 
purchase extensions or supplements to Adobe's software would be so 
arduous that it may as well be impossible. So I'm limited to what I 
can do without having to install anything else.


Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated! (Or even advice on 
where I could go to read up on the various ways to effectively manage 
nomenclature updates in unstructured FrameMaker.)


Thanks,

Maeli Zacchetti

maeli.e.zacchetti@mail.mil

Technical Writer

U.S. Army

In modern times, if the sole measure

of what's out there flows from your five senses

then a precarious life awaits you.

- Neil DeGrasse Tyson


Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
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RE: Text Inset vs. Variable Question (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-12-10 Thread Fred Ridder
Maeli Zacchetti wrote:
 

On previous projects I’ve used ~20 part name variables (created in a master 
file, then applied to each *.fm file through a book update) and then inserted 
that part’s variable any time I need to use the part name.  For this project 
with
 100+ parts it seems like that could start getting painful, just in terms of 
scrolling through a massive variable list.
 
I was thinking that I could use text insets as another option, if it were 
possible to import from a single cell in a table (e.g. excel file). That would 
let me use the spreadsheet that I’d have to create anyway for planning out the 
variables
 (and internal tracking of what name I’m assigning to a given part number).  

 
In the past I’ve used text insets to reference repeated short paragraphs, using 
a series of individual text documents to hold each paragraph. So I guess I 
could do the same thing again, but then I’d end up with 100+ text files, which 
seems
 like a different kind of inconvenient compared to the 100+ variables.
 It's not necessary to use one file per inset. Text insets import a text 
*flow*, not the whole file (even if your files have only one flow, you still 
have to select that flow when you're inserting an inset). What you can have is 
a series of files that have multiple, named flows in them. At least this way 
you're able to break the hundreds of variables down into a 2-level hierarchy so 
that you could avoid having either level's selection list longer than 15 (up to 
225 discrete insets) to 20 (up to 400) choices. 

-Fred Ridder

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Re: Text Inset vs. Variable Question (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-12-10 Thread Helen Borrie
At 08:58 a.m. 11/12/2014, Zacchetti, Maeli E CIV USARMY ECBC (US) wrote:
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Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
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I’m getting back to unstructured FrameMaker 10 (after two years of having to 
use MS Word). So apologies if I don’t use some of the correct terms or if I’m 
misunderstanding some of FrameMaker’s capabilities! 

Others are better equipped to give you the definitive answer.  I just wanted to 
compliment you on your excellent problem description!

Helen

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RE: How do you get fractions in FM 12?

2014-12-10 Thread Grant Hogarth

 
  Use the Character Tool to see if your font provides true fractions. 
  If not, find a font that looks like yours that does, and then create a character definition that uses that font. 
  Then just apply the character tag to the correct character.
  
  Grant
  
   On December 9, 2014 at 10:03 AM Craig Ede craig...@hotmail.com wrote:
   
   
   
I keep these characters (in the font we use for body text) in a text box on the reference page and cutpaste as needed.

1⁄4 1⁄2 3⁄4 1⁄3 2⁄3 1⁄8 3⁄8 5⁄8 7⁄8

16ths are another problem.

Craig



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   Subject: How do you get fractions in FM 12?
  
  
  I have text that expresses one-and-one-half as 1-1/2, which could be interpreted as 1-to-1/2. I would like to be able to show the fraction without the hyphen. 
 

   
  
  
  
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