Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?

[Peter Gold]

I was thinking that perhaps it would be possible to create rules that
define the variable suitably for each doctype, and in each specific
context, within a document set, if one was using structured FM. However, in
an enterprise that prohibits all user-installed add-ons, even if structured
FM were in use, customizing the EDD might be prohibited.

So, in the end, manual search/replace might be the only practical solution.


> (But if you're at a company that won't allow you to install such
> utilities, as is the case with John I believe, you just have to do things
> the manual way. I've been at places like that, and it's always a drag on my
> productivity. I'm happy to be working on my own system now where I can use
> any utility that I want :-).
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Re: [Framers] slow-scrolling images

[Peter Gold]

In the early days of publishing, it was common to use placeholder graphics
for a variety of reasons, then replace them with the "real" images before
sending the documents to production. The placeholders were usually marked
conspicuously "For Position Only," but occasionally some would slip past
proofreaders, and be published.

I can't remember if turning off FrameMaker's graphics display retains
anchored and unanchored frames but hides the graphics they contain. Hiding
the frames obviously would disrupt layouts.

I seem to remember that one proposed solution for avoiding slow display of
graphics in FrameMaker, in the distant past, was to create low-resolution
copies of referenced graphics, with duplicate names, in a duplicate-named
directory tree, then swap the two trees before publishing the documents.

An even fainter memory seems to recall that there may have been a script
that renamed the directory trees, paths, and/or filenames in MIF, or in the
operating system (Windows or UNIX.) It's obvious that round-tripping large
document sets to and from MIF, even with the aid of scripts, could be
problematic.

HTH

Peter Gold


> Have any of you worthies seen and fixed this issue?

> I get a very slow response in FrameMaker when scrolling through files with
> > referenced images.  Obviously, the more images the slower the response
> when
> > moving through the pages in a file.
> > It takes longer than it should for each image to appear as the page
> scrolls
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Re: [Framers] slow-scrolling images

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi John, 

well, it is common that loading of graphics takes longer when the files
are stored on network drives. You could try to gather all files on a
local drive. 

Another kind of obstacle are certain anti-virus softwares. Maybe the
most frequently used file types should be put on a "white list", if
possible. 

And last but not least large bitmap files with high resolution take
longer to be rendered by FrameMaker. The effective resolution should not
exceed 300 dpi, a higher resolution is not necessary in most cases. 

There have already been some discussions like this, you may also check
the Frameusers' archive.
(e.g.
http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/msg57291.html
or
http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/msg41567.html)


Best regards -- Tino H. Haida 

John Sgammato: 

> Have any of you worthies seen and fixed this issue?
> I get a very slow response in FrameMaker when scrolling through files with
> referenced images.  Obviously, the more images the slower the response when
> moving through the pages in a file.
> It takes longer than it should for each image to appear as the page scrolls
> 
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Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?

[Robert Lauriston]

If you don't want to update all the variables, create a file
containing only the variable(s) you want to update and import that.

On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Monique Semp  wrote:
>> You can update a variable in all .fm files in a .book with a single
>> import.
>
>
> Yes, but that presupposes that you want *all* the variables from the source
> file. But in my case, I have different variables in different FrameMaker
> templates (for frontmatter, ToC, chapters), with only some variables, such
> as the doc's part number, in all the templates. So by using BookVars, I can
> easily change/add only the desired variable, to all files in the book,
> without affecting any other variables.
>
> So it depends on your setup which method is easier/quicker/applicable.
>
> (But if you're at a company that won't allow you to install such utilities,
> as is the case with John I believe, you just have to do things the manual
> way. I've been at places like that, and it's always a drag on my
> productivity. I'm happy to be working on my own system now where I can use
> any utility that I want :-).
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Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

That is why BooKVars is essential ... my most used tool in FrameMaker!

Z

> > You can update a variable in all .fm files in a .book with a single import.
> 
> Yes, but that presupposes that you want *all* the variables from the source
> file. But in my case, I have different variables in different FrameMaker
> templates (for frontmatter, ToC, chapters), with only some variables, such as
> the doc's part number, in all the templates. So by using BookVars, I can 
> easily
> change/add only the desired variable, to all files in the book, without
> affecting any other variables.
> 
> So it depends on your setup which method is easier/quicker/applicable.
> 
> (But if you're at a company that won't allow you to install such utilities, 
> as is
> the case with John I believe, you just have to do things the manual way. I've
> been at places like that, and it's always a drag on my productivity. I'm happy
> to be working on my own system now where I can use any utility that I want
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Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?

[Monique Semp]

You can update a variable in all .fm files in a .book with a single 
import.


Yes, but that presupposes that you want *all* the variables from the source 
file. But in my case, I have different variables in different FrameMaker 
templates (for frontmatter, ToC, chapters), with only some variables, such 
as the doc's part number, in all the templates. So by using BookVars, I can 
easily change/add only the desired variable, to all files in the book, 
without affecting any other variables.


So it depends on your setup which method is easier/quicker/applicable.

(But if you're at a company that won't allow you to install such utilities, 
as is the case with John I believe, you just have to do things the manual 
way. I've been at places like that, and it's always a drag on my 
productivity. I'm happy to be working on my own system now where I can use 
any utility that I want :-).


-Monique 


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Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?

[Robert Lauriston]

You can update a variable in all .fm files in a .book with a single import.

On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 1:14 PM,   wrote:
> You have to define it, you have to check it on a few files, you have to
> load the three books, you have to replicate t to the books, you have to
> copy to the files and you have to check that nothing went wrong.
>
> Each book has several hundred files
>
> From:   Robert Lauriston 
> Why would changing a variable take half an hour for only three books?
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Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?

[john . x . posada]

I'm on a closed regulated system...Everything I use has to go through an
extended review and UAT process. I cannot install anything on my own.

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From:   "Monique Semp" 
To: "Robert Lauriston" , John X
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Cc: , "Framers" 
Date:   04/06/2016 04:53 PM
Subject:Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?



>You have to define it, you have to check it on a few files, you have to
load the three books, you have to replicate t to the books, you have to
copy to the files and you have to check that nothing went wrong.

I've been using Leximation's BookVars utility,
http://leximation.com/tools/info/bookvars.php, to easily change vars in all

a book's files at once.

-Monique



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Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?

[Monique Semp]

You have to define it, you have to check it on a few files, you have to

load the three books, you have to replicate t to the books, you have to
copy to the files and you have to check that nothing went wrong.

I've been using Leximation's BookVars utility, 
http://leximation.com/tools/info/bookvars.php, to easily change vars in all 
a book's files at once.


-Monique 


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Re: [Framers] About text frames

[Craig Ede]

If I recall correctly, the text frames in graphics are found by search after 
the main text flow, so a search and replace started from the end of the main 
text flow might allow you to search on paratag Body and then paste the paratag 
of your choice. It'd be a one-change at a time process, but could work if there 
aren't too many such paragraphs. (I believe I've used this technique in the 
past, but memory is a funny thing and I don't have time to test this now.)

And extendscript could certainly do this by skipping such paras in the main 
text flow and and ref and master pages and only changing them elsewhere. Rick, 
could you comment?

Craig

> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 19:49:56 +0200
> From: i...@heiko-haida.de
> To: pat.christen...@morningstar.com
> CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: [Framers] About text frames
> 
>  
> 
> Hi Pat, 
> 
> ok, I understand, that is true. No, I think there is no way to change
> this. 
> 
> I would recommend to simply copy/paste the callout frames from an
> exiting frame instead of inserting new text frames. 
> 
> Best regards - Tino H. Haida 
> 
> Pat Christenson: 
> 
> > I'll clarify further.
> > 
> > When I create a text frame for a callout to a graphic, it always defaults 
> > to Body. I have a paragraph format called Callout. Can I change the default 
> > paragraph for a text frame to Callout?
> > 
> > I can't simply redefine Body to match the settings of Callout because we 
> > use Body throughout our documents.
> > 
> > Pat
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Framers 
> > [mailto:framers-bounces+pat.christenson=morningstar@lists.frameusers.com]
> >  On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 11:08 AM
> > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> > Subject: Re: [Framers] About text frames
> > 
> > To change the paragraph tag for a new .fm file, ee "Change the template for 
> > blank paper" in the help.
> > 
> > Other than that, the paragraph tag for a new paragraph is set by the Next 
> > Pgf Tag setting in the previous paragraph.
> > 
> > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 8:02 AM, Pat Christenson 
> >  wrote: 
> > 
> >> -  Is there a way to set the default paragraph format to something 
> >> other than Body?
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Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?

[john . x . posada]

You also have to include the process for searching for the string and
accepting the search and replace.

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From:   Robert Lauriston 
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Date:   04/06/2016 04:02 PM
Subject:Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?
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Why would changing a variable take half an hour for only three books?

On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 12:49 PM,   wrote:
> Our department has changed names 3 times. The first time, it took me
almost
> all day to make the change. After I made it into a variable, the next
time
> it took me about 45 minutes.
>
> I have two versions; one that gives the whole name with the iniialism in
> bracket for first time use. The other vesion is just the iniiialism.  45
> minutes  change 3 books with 2,000+ pages per book.
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Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?

[john . x . posada]

You have to define it, you have to check it on a few files, you have to
load the three books, you have to replicate t to the books, you have to
copy to the files and you have to check that nothing went wrong.

Each book has several hundred files

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Date:   04/06/2016 04:02 PM
Subject:Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?
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Why would changing a variable take half an hour for only three books?

On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 12:49 PM,   wrote:
> Our department has changed names 3 times. The first time, it took me
almost
> all day to make the change. After I made it into a variable, the next
time
> it took me about 45 minutes.
>
> I have two versions; one that gives the whole name with the iniialism in
> bracket for first time use. The other vesion is just the iniiialism.  45
> minutes  change 3 books with 2,000+ pages per book.
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[Framers] a structured view of text frames in graphRE: About text frames

[Craig Ede]

A related issue:

When using a conversion table to structure an unstructured document that uses 
text frames inside graphics, I've notices that the conversion results in all 
the text frames being converted to Body formatted paragraphs. They usually have 
a different name in the unstructured file and differ from Body in that they 
have no indent (in our template, Body indents). This results in the exported 
graphics having text inappropriately positioned and often overflowing the text 
box. 

I expect I could redefine Body to be left aligned for the conversion of the 
graphics, but does anyone know another way around this?

Thank you.

Craig

> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 19:49:56 +0200
> > When I create a text frame for a callout to a graphic, it always defaults 
> > to Body. I have a paragraph format called Callout. Can I change the default 
> > paragraph for a text frame to Callout?
> > 
> > I can't simply redefine Body to match the settings of Callout because we 
> > use Body throughout our documents.
> > 
  
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Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?

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Why would changing a variable take half an hour for only three books?

On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 12:49 PM,   wrote:
> Our department has changed names 3 times. The first time, it took me almost
> all day to make the change. After I made it into a variable, the next time
> it took me about 45 minutes.
>
> I have two versions; one that gives the whole name with the iniialism in
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Re: [Framers] slow-scrolling images

[Rick Quatro]

Not a perfect solution, but you can go to View > Options and uncheck
Graphics to suppress the display of imported graphics.

Rick

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Subject: [Framers] slow-scrolling images

Have any of you worthies seen and fixed this issue?
I get a very slow response in FrameMaker when scrolling through files with
referenced images.  Obviously, the more images the slower the response when
moving through the pages in a file.
It takes longer than it should for each image to appear as the page scrolls


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Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?

[john . x . posada]

Our department has changed names 3 times. The first time, it took me almost
all day to make the change. After I made it into a variable, the next time
it took me about 45 minutes.

I have two versions; one that gives the whole name with the iniialism in
bracket for first time use. The other vesion is just the iniiialism.  45
minutes  change 3 books with 2,000+ pages per book.

John X Posada
SR AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | Global Risk Analytics | HSBC North
America Holdings Inc
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From:   Syed Zaeem Hosain 
To: Monique Semp , Art Campbell
, John X Posada/HBUS/HSBC@HSBC02
Cc: Framers List , Framers

Date:   04/06/2016 03:42 PM
Subject:RE: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?



FWIW, for me, variables work best for this purpose ... that way, an
occasional search and replace (perhaps at the end) works wonders.

This makes the "product name change" problem _far_ less of an issue in the
long run!

Z

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> From: Framers [mailto:framers-
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> Subject: Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?
>
> > Second this. Use the non-breaking space in the variable and do a
search-
> and-replace at the end of production or when you're bored and staring at
the
> screen.
>
> Thanks, everyone. That’s what I’ll do. And I’ll add this to my production
> checklist.
>
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[Framers] slow-scrolling images

[John Sgammato]

Have any of you worthies seen and fixed this issue?
I get a very slow response in FrameMaker when scrolling through files with
referenced images.  Obviously, the more images the slower the response when
moving through the pages in a file.
It takes longer than it should for each image to appear as the page scrolls


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Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

FWIW, for me, variables work best for this purpose ... that way, an occasional 
search and replace (perhaps at the end) works wonders.

This makes the "product name change" problem _far_ less of an issue in the long 
run!

Z

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> From: Framers [mailto:framers-
> bounces+syed.hosain=aeris@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
> Monique Semp
> Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 12:37 PM
> To: Art Campbell ; john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com
> Cc: Framers List ; Framers  bounces+john.x.posada=us.hsbc@lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?
> 
> > Second this. Use the non-breaking space in the variable and do a search-
> and-replace at the end of production or when you're bored and staring at the
> screen.
> 
> Thanks, everyone. That’s what I’ll do. And I’ll add this to my production
> checklist.
> 
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Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?

[Monique Semp]

> Second this. Use the non-breaking space in the variable and do a 
> search-and-replace at the end of production or when you're bored and staring 
> at the screen.

Thanks, everyone. That’s what I’ll do. And I’ll add this to my production 
checklist.

-Monique
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Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?

[Art Campbell]

Second this. Use the non-breaking space in the variable and do a
search-and-replace at the end of production or when you're bored and
staring at the screen.


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On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 12:29 PM,  wrote:

> Don't worry about remembering...at some point, just do a search and replace
> and change all occurrences to a variable. You want to use a variable for
> product names...sure as hell, at some point, marketing is going to change
> product names.
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> From:   "Monique Semp" 
> To: 
> Date:   04/06/2016 12:24 PM
> Subject:[Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?
> Sent by:"Framers"+john.x.posada=us.hsbc@lists.frameusers.com>
>
>
>
> Hello, Framers,
>
> (Using FrameMaker 2015, but I don’t think that matters.)
>
> I have a 2-word product name that I don’t want to break across lines. I
> know that I could always use a non-breaking space between the words to
> prevent line breaks. But that’s hard to remember to do all the time. And
> the search function treats the spaces as a diff, so if I’ve got
> inconsistent usage (some regular spaces, some non-breaking spaces), a
> single search won’t find everything.
>
> Another idea is to use a variable, with the space entered as a non-breaking
> space. But sure as the sky is blue on this gorgeous day in San Francisco,
> at some point I’ll forget and just directly type the product name without a
> space, and later edits will push it to the end of the line into a line
> break situation.
>
> The Format > Document > Text Options lets you specify “Allow Line Breaks
> After” chars, but doesn’t have a “Don’t Allow Line Breaks” option, which is
> what I really want here.
>
> Any suggestions for other approaches or utilities I can try?
>
> -Monique
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Re: [Framers] Generate list of FrameMaker para, char, table, etc., formats?

[Pat Christenson]

I can heartily recommend these tools.

Pat

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
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On Behalf Of Craig, Alison
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 12:35 PM
To: Nancy Allison; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Generate list of FrameMaker para, char, table, etc., 
formats?

Silicon Prairie's Paragraph and Character plug-ins will do this for you (I've 
included a Para and Char sample below).



The plug-ins are very inexpensive and highly useful and also include versions 
for Tables, Variables, Colors, etc.



http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/



Alison


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Para Tag Sample


Char Tag Sample


Body





Default Font


F-B


Capitalization: Normal


Capitalization: Normal


Change Bar: False


Change Bar: False


Color: Black


Color: As Is


Background Color:


Background Color: As Is


Font Family: Arial


Font Family: As Is


Font Angle: Regular


Font Angle: Regular


Font Size: 10.00 points


Font Size: As Is


Font Variation: Regular


Font Variation: Regular


Font Weight: Regular


Font Weight: Bold


Spread: 0.00%


Language: usenglish


Stretch: 100.00%


Overline: False


Overline: False


Pair Kern: True


Pair Kern: True


Position: Normal


Position: Normal


Spread: 0.00%


Strikethrough: False


Stretch: 100.00%


Underlining: None


Strikethrough: False


Alignment: Justified


Underlining: None


Language: usenglish





Tabs





Tab: Type: Left Align   Position: 5.000 millimeters  Decimal:   Leader:





Word Spacing





Allow Automatic Letter Spacing: False





Minimum: 90.00%





Maximum: 110.00%





Optimum: 100.00%





Indents





First Indent: 0.000 millimeters





Left Indent: 0.000 millimeters





Right Indent: 0.000 millimeters





Line Spacing





Line Spacing: 12.00 points





Spacing: Fixed





Space Above: 0.00 points





Space Below: 0.00 points





Pagination





Widow-Orphan Lines: 2





Keep With Next: False





Keep With Previous: False





Format: In Column





Run-in Head Default Punctuation:





Start: Anywhere





Next Tag





Use Next Tag: False





Next Tag:





Autonumbering





Autonumbering: False





Number at End: False





Character Format:





Autonumber Format:





Hyphenation





Hyphenate: True





Max Number Adjacent: 0





Shortest Prefix: 3





Shortest Suffix: 3





Shortest Word: 5





Reference Frames





Frame Below Paragraph:





Frame Above Paragraph:





Table Cells





Cell Vertical Alignment: Top





Bottom Margin - From Table Format Plus: 0.00 points





Top Margin - From Table Format Plus: 0.00 points





Left Margin - From Table Format Plus: 0.00 points





Right Margin - From Table Format Plus: 0.00 points





PDF Properties





Named Destination: False





Bookmark Level: 0





Structure Level: 6



















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Of Nancy Allison
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 1:45 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Generate list of FrameMaker para, char, table, etc., formats?



   You know how Word enables you to generate a handy list of all your word

   styles and their attributes?

   Surely, surely FrameMaker enables us to do this!

   How? Can anyone tell me?

   Or, if in fact vanilla FM does not have this function, is there a

   plug-in that will do it?

   Thank you very much!

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Re: [Framers] About text frames

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Pat, 

ok, I understand, that is true. No, I think there is no way to change
this. 

I would recommend to simply copy/paste the callout frames from an
exiting frame instead of inserting new text frames. 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida 

Pat Christenson: 

> I'll clarify further.
> 
> When I create a text frame for a callout to a graphic, it always defaults to 
> Body. I have a paragraph format called Callout. Can I change the default 
> paragraph for a text frame to Callout?
> 
> I can't simply redefine Body to match the settings of Callout because we use 
> Body throughout our documents.
> 
> Pat
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers 
> [mailto:framers-bounces+pat.christenson=morningstar@lists.frameusers.com] 
> On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 11:08 AM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: [Framers] About text frames
> 
> To change the paragraph tag for a new .fm file, ee "Change the template for 
> blank paper" in the help.
> 
> Other than that, the paragraph tag for a new paragraph is set by the Next Pgf 
> Tag setting in the previous paragraph.
> 
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 8:02 AM, Pat Christenson 
>  wrote: 
> 
>> -  Is there a way to set the default paragraph format to something 
>> other than Body?
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Re: [Framers] Generate list of FrameMaker para, char, table, etc., formats?

[Lin Sims]

Oh, for ...

And I even OWN those.

On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Steve Rickaby <
srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> At 17:35 + 6/4/16, Craig, Alison wrote:
>
> >The plug-ins are very inexpensive and highly useful and also include
> versions for Tables, Variables, Colors, etc.
>
> Seconded, in spades. And with knobs on.
>
> Although I would upgrade 'highly useful' to indispensable'.
>
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Re: [Framers] Generate list of FrameMaker para, char, table, etc., formats?

[Steve Rickaby]

At 17:35 + 6/4/16, Craig, Alison wrote:

>The plug-ins are very inexpensive and highly useful and also include versions 
>for Tables, Variables, Colors, etc.

Seconded, in spades. And with knobs on.

Although I would upgrade 'highly useful' to indispensable'.

-- 
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Re: [Framers] Generate list of FrameMaker para, char, table, etc., formats?

[Craig, Alison]

Silicon Prairie's Paragraph and Character plug-ins will do this for you (I've 
included a Para and Char sample below).



The plug-ins are very inexpensive and highly useful and also include versions 
for Tables, Variables, Colors, etc.



http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/



Alison


Technical Documentation Specialist
BK Ultrasound | acr...@bkultrasound.com | 
bkultrasound.com







Para Tag Sample


Char Tag Sample


Body





Default Font


F-B


Capitalization: Normal


Capitalization: Normal


Change Bar: False


Change Bar: False


Color: Black


Color: As Is


Background Color:


Background Color: As Is


Font Family: Arial


Font Family: As Is


Font Angle: Regular


Font Angle: Regular


Font Size: 10.00 points


Font Size: As Is


Font Variation: Regular


Font Variation: Regular


Font Weight: Regular


Font Weight: Bold


Spread: 0.00%


Language: usenglish


Stretch: 100.00%


Overline: False


Overline: False


Pair Kern: True


Pair Kern: True


Position: Normal


Position: Normal


Spread: 0.00%


Strikethrough: False


Stretch: 100.00%


Underlining: None


Strikethrough: False


Alignment: Justified


Underlining: None


Language: usenglish





Tabs





Tab: Type: Left Align   Position: 5.000 millimeters  Decimal:   Leader:





Word Spacing





Allow Automatic Letter Spacing: False





Minimum: 90.00%





Maximum: 110.00%





Optimum: 100.00%





Indents





First Indent: 0.000 millimeters





Left Indent: 0.000 millimeters





Right Indent: 0.000 millimeters





Line Spacing





Line Spacing: 12.00 points





Spacing: Fixed





Space Above: 0.00 points





Space Below: 0.00 points





Pagination





Widow-Orphan Lines: 2





Keep With Next: False





Keep With Previous: False





Format: In Column





Run-in Head Default Punctuation:





Start: Anywhere





Next Tag





Use Next Tag: False





Next Tag:





Autonumbering





Autonumbering: False





Number at End: False





Character Format:





Autonumber Format:





Hyphenation





Hyphenate: True





Max Number Adjacent: 0





Shortest Prefix: 3





Shortest Suffix: 3





Shortest Word: 5





Reference Frames





Frame Below Paragraph:





Frame Above Paragraph:





Table Cells





Cell Vertical Alignment: Top





Bottom Margin - From Table Format Plus: 0.00 points





Top Margin - From Table Format Plus: 0.00 points





Left Margin - From Table Format Plus: 0.00 points





Right Margin - From Table Format Plus: 0.00 points





PDF Properties





Named Destination: False





Bookmark Level: 0





Structure Level: 6



















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From: Framers 
[mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=bkultrasound@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf 
Of Nancy Allison
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 1:45 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Generate list of FrameMaker para, char, table, etc., formats?



   You know how Word enables you to generate a handy list of all your word

   styles and their attributes?

   Surely, surely FrameMaker enables us to do this!

   How? Can anyone tell me?

   Or, if in fact vanilla FM does not have this function, is there a

   plug-in that will do it?

   Thank you very much!

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Re: [Framers] Object properties

[Craig, Alison]

In my PDF copy of the Frame 12 User Manual, there are any number of keyboard 
shortcuts listed for Objects.



You would have to go through them all to determine if any of them provide what 
you are looking for.



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-Original Message-
From: Framers 
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Of Pat Christenson
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 9:36 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Object properties



Is there a keyboard shortcut to apply an object property (like there is for 
paragraph and character formats)?





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Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?

[Robert Lauriston]

What if you find and replace foo\x20bar with foo\x11bar? or foo|bar
with foo\x11bar?

If you can't trust yourself to use it 100% consistently, a variable
would just add complexity.

On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 9:23 AM, Monique Semp  wrote:
> I have a 2-word product name that I don’t want to break across lines. I know 
> that I could always use a non-breaking space between the words to prevent 
> line breaks. But that’s hard to remember to do all the time. And the search 
> function treats the spaces as a diff, so if I’ve got inconsistent usage (some 
> regular spaces, some non-breaking spaces), a single search won’t find 
> everything.
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[Framers] Object properties

[Pat Christenson]

Is there a keyboard shortcut to apply an object property (like there is for 
paragraph and character formats)?


Pat Christenson
Senior Technical Writer, Client Education
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Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?

[john . x . posada]

Don't worry about remembering...at some point, just do a search and replace
and change all occurrences to a variable. You want to use a variable for
product names...sure as hell, at some point, marketing is going to change
product names.

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From:   "Monique Semp" 
To: 
Date:   04/06/2016 12:24 PM
Subject:[Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?
Sent by:"Framers"   



Hello, Framers,

(Using FrameMaker 2015, but I don’t think that matters.)

I have a 2-word product name that I don’t want to break across lines. I
know that I could always use a non-breaking space between the words to
prevent line breaks. But that’s hard to remember to do all the time. And
the search function treats the spaces as a diff, so if I’ve got
inconsistent usage (some regular spaces, some non-breaking spaces), a
single search won’t find everything.

Another idea is to use a variable, with the space entered as a non-breaking
space. But sure as the sky is blue on this gorgeous day in San Francisco,
at some point I’ll forget and just directly type the product name without a
space, and later edits will push it to the end of the line into a line
break situation.

The Format > Document > Text Options lets you specify “Allow Line Breaks
After” chars, but doesn’t have a “Don’t Allow Line Breaks” option, which is
what I really want here.

Any suggestions for other approaches or utilities I can try?

-Monique
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[Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?

[Monique Semp]

Hello, Framers,

(Using FrameMaker 2015, but I don’t think that matters.)

I have a 2-word product name that I don’t want to break across lines. I know 
that I could always use a non-breaking space between the words to prevent line 
breaks. But that’s hard to remember to do all the time. And the search function 
treats the spaces as a diff, so if I’ve got inconsistent usage (some regular 
spaces, some non-breaking spaces), a single search won’t find everything.

Another idea is to use a variable, with the space entered as a non-breaking 
space. But sure as the sky is blue on this gorgeous day in San Francisco, at 
some point I’ll forget and just directly type the product name without a space, 
and later edits will push it to the end of the line into a line break situation.

The Format > Document > Text Options lets you specify “Allow Line Breaks After” 
chars, but doesn’t have a “Don’t Allow Line Breaks” option, which is what I 
really want here.

Any suggestions for other approaches or utilities I can try?

-Monique 
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Re: [Framers] About text frames

[Pat Christenson]

I'll clarify further.

When I create a text frame for a callout to a graphic, it always defaults to 
Body. I have a paragraph format called Callout. Can I change the default 
paragraph for a text frame to Callout?

I can't simply redefine Body to match the settings of Callout because we use 
Body throughout our documents.

Pat

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
[mailto:framers-bounces+pat.christenson=morningstar@lists.frameusers.com] 
On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 11:08 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] About text frames

To change the paragraph tag for a new .fm file, ee "Change the template for 
blank paper" in the help.

Other than that, the paragraph tag for a new paragraph is set by the Next Pgf 
Tag setting in the previous paragraph.

On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 8:02 AM, Pat Christenson 
 wrote:
> -  Is there a way to set the default paragraph format to something 
> other than Body?
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Re: [Framers] About text frames

[Robert Lauriston]

To change the paragraph tag for a new .fm file, ee "Change the
template for blank paper" in the help.

Other than that, the paragraph tag for a new paragraph is set by the
Next Pgf Tag setting in the previous paragraph.

On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 8:02 AM, Pat Christenson
 wrote:
> -  Is there a way to set the default paragraph format to something 
> other than Body?
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Re: [Framers] About text frames

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Pat, 

a) no (you could write a script for this, or you copy an already
existing text frame) 

b) well, you can delete the "Body" format and use this file as a
template.
Can you describe a situation when FrameMaker needs to apply the "default
para format"? 

Best regards -- Tino H. Haida 

Pat Christenson: 

> I'm using FrameMaker 12.
> 
> -  Is there a way to disable the Number of Columns dialog that 
> appears when you first create a text frame?
> 
> -  Is there a way to set the default paragraph format to something 
> other than Body?
> Thanks.
> 
> Pat Christenson
> Senior Technical Writer, Client Education
> Morningstar, Inc.
> pat.christen...@morningstar.com
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[Framers] About text frames

[Pat Christenson]

I'm using FrameMaker 12.


-  Is there a way to disable the Number of Columns dialog that appears 
when you first create a text frame?

-  Is there a way to set the default paragraph format to something 
other than Body?
Thanks.


Pat Christenson
Senior Technical Writer, Client Education
Morningstar, Inc.
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[Framers] Relative URLs

[William Cohan]

I would like to post the following question:

In FM11, I want to enter a relative url in the Hypertext "Go to URL" field; is 
this possible and what is the syntax if it is?
Note that the root would be a changing base address:
Sometimes it might be from a test server, like:
http://testing123/docs/ops/operations.html
or it might be an active website:
htto://bing/docs/ops/operations.html
You would think the relative URL would be /ops/operations.html, like so:

[cid:image001.png@01D18FF2.A69C6520]

But this does not work.
Please advise.
Thanx,
William
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Re: [Framers] where are graphic frame names on reference pages in FM12?

[Mueller, Klaus]

Hi Bjørn, 

The name of the graphic frame is displayed in the FM status line. 
To change the name, just click on this name.

Kind regards, 
Klaus


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From: Framers 
[mailto:framers-bounces+klaus.mueller=itl...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
Studio Smalbro
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 1:50 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] where are graphic frame names on reference pages in FM12?

Hi
I am trying to make some course material and was suddenly confused. When I make 
a graphic frame on the reference pages in FrameMaker 10 I am prompted to give 
it a name. When I click Object Properties on the new frame afterwards I can see 
the name I gave the graphic frame.
When I try to do the same in FrameMaker 12 I am still prompted to give the 
frame a name. When I click Object Properties however, I can no longer see the 
name of the frame.

What am I doing wrong here? Where is the name of the frame?

Best regards
Bjørn


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Re: [Framers] where are graphic frame names on reference pages in FM12?

[Urszula Witherell]

   Hi Bjorn,

   Frame names from Reference pages appear in Paragraph Designer on the
   Advanced tab/options in the drop down choices for Frame Above Pgf/Below
   Pgf.

   I usually add a label above each frame using a Draw a Text Line
   tool while creating the frame on the Reference Pages.

   Hope this helps.

   Urszula

   Urszula Witherell
   www.jetsetcom.net | www.trainingonsite.com
   301.524.3165

 On April 6, 2016 at 7:50 AM Studio Smalbro 
 wrote:
 Hi
 I am trying to make some course material and was suddenly confused.
 When
 I make a graphic frame on the reference pages in FrameMaker 10 I am
 prompted to give it a name. When I click Object Properties on the
 new
 frame afterwards I can see the name I gave the graphic frame.
 When I try to do the same in FrameMaker 12 I am still prompted to
 give
 the frame a name. When I click Object Properties however, I can no
 longer see the name of the frame.
 What am I doing wrong here? Where is the name of the frame?
 Best regards
 Bj�rn
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[Framers] where are graphic frame names on reference pages in FM12?

[Studio Smalbro]

Hi
I am trying to make some course material and was suddenly confused. When 
I make a graphic frame on the reference pages in FrameMaker 10 I am 
prompted to give it a name. When I click Object Properties on the new 
frame afterwards I can see the name I gave the graphic frame.
When I try to do the same in FrameMaker 12 I am still prompted to give 
the frame a name. When I click Object Properties however, I can no 
longer see the name of the frame.


What am I doing wrong here? Where is the name of the frame?

Best regards
Bjørn

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