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Re: [Framers] Correcting Master Pages in FM10

2017-07-12 Thread Rick Quatro

File > Import > Formats works at the book level.

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You'd still have to update the variable in every file.

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 11:38 AM, Rick Quatro  wrote:
> I would suggest using a User Variable for the address and add that to 
> the Master Pages. That way, you can update the Variable's Definition 
> and the Master Page content will be updated.
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Re: [Framers] Framemaker 2017 save backwards

2017-07-12 Thread Robert Lauriston

Personally I'd ask Adobe for another license for FM12 so the new hire
could be on the same version as everyone else until you all upgrade.

If you save as MIF, choose MIF 2017. When importing MIF, older
versions of FrameMaker will simply ignore any newer tags they don't
recognize.

Saving as MIF 7.0 will set the clock back to 2005, converting to the
pre-Unicode version supported by FM 7 and earlier.

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 11:51 AM, Bernard Aschwanden
 wrote:
> You can save as MIF 7.0 (*.mif) but some functions or content may change on
> the way out. Best to do a test run. However, you can open with FM12 once you
> do this. Your mileage may vary though depending on what you have in the
> files.
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Re: [Framers] saveAs Mif Re: Framemaker 2017 save backwards

2017-07-12 Thread Lin Sims

I've actually got an ExtendScript that saves to MIF8, MIF10, MIF11, and
MIF12, as well as to FM8, 10, and 11. I think it's based on one of the
example scripts Rick shared a few years back, although I've expanded it to
additional MIF formats. It adds a drop-down to the menu bar that works with
both books and individual files, and I can share it. (And yes, I asked Rick
about that a couple years back and he was okay with me sharing it.)

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Craig Ede  wrote:

> Just do a SaveAs Mif. Don't use SaveAs Mif7. SaveAs Mif will save to the
> current version being used. Opening in your older version will just discard
> the code that is not interpretable by that version. If you are editing in
> both version your template is not using new features anyway.
>
>
> You can also use extendscript to saveAs a particular version back to FM9.
> Rick Quatro could help you with that; it's pretty simple stuff.
>
>
> Craig
>
>
> 
> From: Framers 
> on behalf of Pat Christenson 
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> FrameMaker software.; fram...@frameusers.com
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>
> Thanks, Bernard. I wanted to be sure before I document Save as MIF.
> Hopefully, it won't be long before we are all using the same version.
>
> Pat
>
> -Original Message-
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>
> You can save as MIF 7.0 (*.mif) but some functions or content may change
> on the way out. Best to do a test run. However, you can open with FM12 once
> you do this. Your mileage may vary though depending on what you have in the
> files.
>
> Bernard
>
>
>
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> Hi -
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> We have a new employee and her FrameMaker license is for 2017. The rest of
> us are on FM 12 but will be upgrading, although I don't know when.
>
> I looked at the 2017 user guide and it says you can save as 2015. It
> doesn't mention 2012. I just want to verify this with the group before I
> write up instructions for our new user.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
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[Framers] saveAs Mif Re: Framemaker 2017 save backwards

2017-07-12 Thread Craig Ede

Just do a SaveAs Mif. Don't use SaveAs Mif7. SaveAs Mif will save to the 
current version being used. Opening in your older version will just discard the 
code that is not interpretable by that version. If you are editing in both 
version your template is not using new features anyway.


You can also use extendscript to saveAs a particular version back to FM9. Rick 
Quatro could help you with that; it's pretty simple stuff.


Craig



From: Framers  on 
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Framemaker 2017 save backwards

Thanks, Bernard. I wanted to be sure before I document Save as MIF. Hopefully, 
it won't be long before we are all using the same version.

Pat

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Framemaker 2017 save backwards

You can save as MIF 7.0 (*.mif) but some functions or content may change on the 
way out. Best to do a test run. However, you can open with FM12 once you do 
this. Your mileage may vary though depending on what you have in the files.

Bernard



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Subject: [Framers] Framemaker 2017 save backwards

Hi -

We have a new employee and her FrameMaker license is for 2017. The rest of us 
are on FM 12 but will be upgrading, although I don't know when.

I looked at the 2017 user guide and it says you can save as 2015. It doesn't 
mention 2012. I just want to verify this with the group before I write up 
instructions for our new user.

Thanks.


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Re: [Framers] Framemaker 2017 save backwards

2017-07-12 Thread Pat Christenson

Thanks, Bernard. I wanted to be sure before I document Save as MIF. Hopefully, 
it won't be long before we are all using the same version.

Pat

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Framemaker 2017 save backwards

You can save as MIF 7.0 (*.mif) but some functions or content may change on the 
way out. Best to do a test run. However, you can open with FM12 once you do 
this. Your mileage may vary though depending on what you have in the files.

Bernard



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Subject: [Framers] Framemaker 2017 save backwards

Hi -

We have a new employee and her FrameMaker license is for 2017. The rest of us 
are on FM 12 but will be upgrading, although I don't know when.

I looked at the 2017 user guide and it says you can save as 2015. It doesn't 
mention 2012. I just want to verify this with the group before I write up 
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Re: [Framers] Correcting Master Pages in FM10

2017-07-12 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain

And that is why I would recommend BookVars from Leximation ... my most-oft used 
tool for FrameMaker.


Z


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Subject: Re: [Framers] Correcting Master Pages in FM10

You'd still have to update the variable in every file.

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 11:38 AM, Rick Quatro  wrote:
> I would suggest using a User Variable for the address and add that to the
> Master Pages. That way, you can update the Variable's Definition and the
> Master Page content will be updated.
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Re: [Framers] Correcting Master Pages in FM10

2017-07-12 Thread Robert Lauriston

You'd still have to update the variable in every file.

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 11:38 AM, Rick Quatro  wrote:
> I would suggest using a User Variable for the address and add that to the
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Re: [Framers] Framemaker 2017 save backwards

2017-07-12 Thread Bernard Aschwanden

You can save as MIF 7.0 (*.mif) but some functions or content may change on
the way out. Best to do a test run. However, you can open with FM12 once you
do this. Your mileage may vary though depending on what you have in the
files.

Bernard



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Subject: [Framers] Framemaker 2017 save backwards

Hi -

We have a new employee and her FrameMaker license is for 2017. The rest of
us are on FM 12 but will be upgrading, although I don't know when.

I looked at the 2017 user guide and it says you can save as 2015. It doesn't
mention 2012. I just want to verify this with the group before I write up
instructions for our new user.

Thanks.


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Re: [Framers] Correcting Master Pages in FM10

2017-07-12 Thread Rick Quatro

I would suggest using a User Variable for the address and add that to the
Master Pages. That way, you can update the Variable's Definition and the
Master Page content will be updated.

Rick Quatro
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Subject: [Framers] Correcting Master Pages in FM10
Importance: High

Hi! I am working in FM10. I have a series of Master Pages that I use for my
company's publications. I need to update an address that appears in the text
of one of the Master Pages. When I work on a publication that uses that
Master Page, I can open the Master Page and make the correction. However,
the corrected address only appears in that publication. The next time I open
the Master Page to include it in another publication, the old address is
still there. I want to correct the "source" for the Master Page so that
every time I open it for future publications, it will already contain the
new address.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

Harvey Rosenfeld
Harvey Rosenfeld
Electronic Editorial and
Production Specialist
ANSI


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[Framers] Framemaker 2017 save backwards

2017-07-12 Thread Pat Christenson

Hi -

We have a new employee and her FrameMaker license is for 2017. The rest of us 
are on FM 12 but will be upgrading, although I don't know when.

I looked at the 2017 user guide and it says you can save as 2015. It doesn't 
mention 2012. I just want to verify this with the group before I write up 
instructions for our new user.

Thanks.


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Morningstar, Inc.
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Re: [Framers] Correcting Master Pages in FM10

2017-07-12 Thread Robert Lauriston

There's no such thing. FrameMaker doesn't have a template feature. You
can import the updated master pages from that file into the other
files, provided the master pages are identical.

To update something in one place and have the change appear in
multiple documents, use text insets.

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Harvey Rosenfeld  wrote:
> Hi! I am working in FM10. I have a series of Master Pages that I use for my 
> company's publications. I need to update an address that appears in the text 
> of one of the Master Pages. When I work on a publication that uses that 
> Master Page, I can open the Master Page and make the correction. However, the 
> corrected address only appears in that publication. The next time I open the 
> Master Page to include it in another publication, the old address is still 
> there. I want to correct the "source" for the Master Page so that every time 
> I open it for future publications, it will already contain the new address.
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[Framers] Correcting Master Pages in FM10

2017-07-12 Thread Harvey Rosenfeld

Hi! I am working in FM10. I have a series of Master Pages that I use for my 
company's publications. I need to update an address that appears in the text of 
one of the Master Pages. When I work on a publication that uses that Master 
Page, I can open the Master Page and make the correction. However, the 
corrected address only appears in that publication. The next time I open the 
Master Page to include it in another publication, the old address is still 
there. I want to correct the "source" for the Master Page so that every time I 
open it for future publications, it will already contain the new address.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

Harvey Rosenfeld
Harvey Rosenfeld
Electronic Editorial and
Production Specialist
ANSI


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Re: [Framers] Document comparison whole book at a time

2017-07-12 Thread John Posada

OK...I'm making progress, but not there yet. It seems that FM will create a
file for every file it marks up, with the initials CMP in the file name. I
can open that file and view the insertions and deletions.

However...it does not create a book with the files. I need to gather up all
the CMP files and reassemble them into a book, then compare against the
original book to put everything in the same sequence.

Am I missing something? Why doesn't it create a CMP book?

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 6:39 AM, Shmuel Wolfson  wrote:

> I think it puts it in as conditional text. So you have to view those
> conditions.
>
>
>
> On 11-Jul-17 7:16 PM, John Posada wrote:
>
>> The trick to doing the whole book is to not open any individual files
>> first.
>>
>> Now my issue is, after comparison, I don't see the changes marked in the
>> later version...How do I turn the display on to show bars, additions and
>> deletions.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 12:01 PM, Gillian Flato 
>> wrote:
>>
>> File > Utilities > Compare Books.
>>> -Gillian
>>>
 On Jul 11, 2017, at 8:06 AM, John Posada  wrote:

 Hi, guys...I want to compare a current complete book to a prior version

>>> of
>>>
 the book. It seems I have to do it file by file. Is there a way of
 comparing a book with a previous book and have all the content compared

>>> and
>>>
 change-bar'd?

 FM V11

 Thanks

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Re: [Framers] ‏: Converting to Word for Review

2017-07-12 Thread Caroline Tabach

That is indeed what I always do.

In fact, in light of the difficulty TCs often have getting input, I do whatever 
necessary to get comments,
I either send a PDF to get write up, which is easiest, if necessary I send 
word, I give people paper print outs, and some people even send me comments in 
emails (someone even took screen caps of the paragraphs and wrote what to 
change)

Whatever works to get it done

Caroline Tabach
Technical/Marcom Writer
T. +972-77-7745-042


-Original Message-
From: Shmuel Wolfson [mailto:shmue...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 6:52 PM
To: Caroline Tabach ; Framers 

Subject: Re: [Framers] ‏השב: Converting to Word for Review

Keep in mind that they don't care about formatting when they are reviewing it. 
They just want the text. So it really should not take so long to save it as 
word. Explain to them that the formatting is not nice because it's exported 
from Frame.

If you afraid they might be upset by the formatting, you can send them word 
files for commenting and a PDF to show them how the formatted doc looks.

--
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
058-763-7133


On 11-Jul-17 6:07 PM, Caroline Tabach wrote:
> I sent a nice PDF, but the manager wanted Word.
>
> This is for review only
>
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> ‏אל:An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.;
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> ‏נושא:Re: [Framers] Converting to Word for Review
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>
> If the endpoint is back to FM, I'd skip the Word conversion & just use the 
> Review PDF capabilities. In Lin's case, it's all ending up in Word, so doing 
> the FM to PDF to Word route probably isn't the most ideal. Lin, what about 
> hooking up MIF2Go? Didn't it have a superior FM to Word conversion?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers 
> [mailto:framers-bounces+jeff.coatsworth=jonasclub.com@lists.frameusers
> .com] On Behalf Of Caroline Tabach
> Sent: July-11-17 8:37 AM
> To: 'framers@lists.frameusers.com'
> Subject: [Framers] Converting to Word for Review
>
> Hi
> Converting Frame to Word for review
> What do you recommend
> Export from PDF or Export from Frame?  Version 2015
>
> Caroline Tabach
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