Re: [Framers] Grammar Question

2019-04-29 Thread Doug
I think I'll go with Lin's wording.

Thanks everyone!

Doug

On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 9:06 AM Lin Sims  wrote:
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> > This cable connects to devices that are RS-485 enabled.
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Re: [Framers] Grammar Question

2019-04-29 Thread Dennis Brunnenmeyer
Actually, all of you are wrong. This cable can likely connect to a lot of
things, including RS-485 devices if it has the usual RJ-45 Ethernet plug on
the business end. If so, it can easily be connected to other devices, such
as standard Ethernet switches and routers, but it would not function
properly. Even if it has another type of connector, it's probably better to
just describe what to do with it.

Assuming you're writing this sentence as a step in a series of
instructions, just say this:

"Cable X should be connected to the RS-485 port on Device Y."

If you just want to describe the nature of the cable, then try this:

"This is an RS-485 signal cable."

In either example above, it's clear that the cable and the signal on it
complies with the RS-485 standard at least well enough to function properly.

Dennis ...



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On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 2:56 PM quills  wrote:

> I would not use the second hyphen. It is questionable at best.
>
> > On Apr 29, 2019, at 08:06, Lin Sims  wrote:
> >
> > This cable connects to devices that are RS-485 enabled.
> >
> >> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 7:57 AM Doug  wrote:
> >>
> >> In the sentence below regarding RS-485 technology, I really don't want
> to
> >> use consecutive hyphens.  Can you suggest a decent alternative?  Thanks
> in
> >> advance.
> >>
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Re: [Framers] Grammar Question

2019-04-29 Thread Robert Lauriston
Texas Instruments uses "RS-485-compliant" in their docs, e.g.:

http://www.ti.com/lit/an/slla272c/slla272c.pdf
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Re: [Framers] Grammar Question

2019-04-29 Thread quills
I would not use the second hyphen. It is questionable at best. 

> On Apr 29, 2019, at 08:06, Lin Sims  wrote:
> 
> This cable connects to devices that are RS-485 enabled.
> 
>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 7:57 AM Doug  wrote:
>> 
>> In the sentence below regarding RS-485 technology, I really don't want to
>> use consecutive hyphens.  Can you suggest a decent alternative?  Thanks in
>> advance.
>> 
>> This cable connects to RS-485-enabled devices.
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Re: [Framers] Grammar Question

2019-04-29 Thread Robert Lauriston
There's nothing wrong with "RS-485-compliant." The first hyphen is
part of the noun "RS-485," the second forms a phrasal adjective.

This isn't really grammar, it's an arbitrary punctuation rule that
varies from one style guide to another. Some might use en dashes
instead of hyphens.

Are you sure you want "connects to" rather than simply "connects"?

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> In the sentence below regarding RS-485 technology, I really don't want to
> use consecutive hyphens.  Can you suggest a decent alternative?  Thanks in
> advance.
>
> This cable connects to RS-485-enabled devices.
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Re: [Framers] Grammar Question

2019-04-29 Thread Lin Sims
You're remembering it wrong. If it were all in front of the word devices,
you'd need the hyphen. If you're still not comfortable, you could try:

This cable connects to devices that are compliant with the RS-485 standard.

It's a bit longer, but it's crystal clear. :)

On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 1:36 PM Doug  wrote:

> I can accept compliant, but since complaint modifies RS-485 (doesn't it?)
> then a hyphen is required linking the two.  And we're back to square one.
> Or am I remembering my grammar wrong?
>
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 10:43 AM Lin Sims  wrote:
>
> > I didn't look to see if RS-485 was a standard. If it is, then "compliant"
> > is definitely a better choice.
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 10:39 AM Art Campbell 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Second Lin's wording, but I would use "compliant" instead of "enabled"
> > > because "enabled" in this context is over the line into jargon.
> > >
> > > Art Campbell
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 9:06 AM Lin Sims  wrote:
> > >
> > > > This cable connects to devices that are RS-485 enabled.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 7:57 AM Doug  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > In the sentence below regarding RS-485 technology, I really don't
> > want
> > > to
> > > > > use consecutive hyphens.  Can you suggest a decent alternative?
> > Thanks
> > > > in
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Re: [Framers] Grammar Question

2019-04-29 Thread Doug
I can accept compliant, but since complaint modifies RS-485 (doesn't it?)
then a hyphen is required linking the two.  And we're back to square one.
Or am I remembering my grammar wrong?

On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 10:43 AM Lin Sims  wrote:

> I didn't look to see if RS-485 was a standard. If it is, then "compliant"
> is definitely a better choice.
>
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 10:39 AM Art Campbell 
> wrote:
>
> > Second Lin's wording, but I would use "compliant" instead of "enabled"
> > because "enabled" in this context is over the line into jargon.
> >
> > Art Campbell
> >   art.campb...@gmail.com
> >   "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
> and
> > a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
> >   No disclaimers
> apply.
> >DoD 358
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 9:06 AM Lin Sims  wrote:
> >
> > > This cable connects to devices that are RS-485 enabled.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 7:57 AM Doug  wrote:
> > >
> > > > In the sentence below regarding RS-485 technology, I really don't
> want
> > to
> > > > use consecutive hyphens.  Can you suggest a decent alternative?
> Thanks
> > > in
> > > > advance.
> > > >
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Re: [Framers] Framers Digest, Vol 157, Issue 16 - Sharing a Frame

2019-04-29 Thread Carole McCormick
Can you install a Frame license on a machine that can be shared by your team 
members? Of course, only one person could use it at a time, and you would need 
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Hi group

I'm looking for best practices and good documentation (or user groups) on how 
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https://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/2019/using/framemaker_help.pdf

Thanks

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On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 4:57 AM Yves Barbion  wrote:

> Hi group
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> on how to use and customize FrameMaker 2019 responsive HTML5 output,
> generated from unstructured Fm files and from ditamaps. The FrameMaker
> "Help" does not help me very much:
>
> https://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/2019/using/framemaker_help.pdf
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With my current employer, I'm back working in Word because many engineers have 
to contribute to my hardware manuals and there simply isn't a budget for the 
server version of Frame (which costs $15,000 US these days and is truly 
overkill for my situation).

However, the software team is quite small so I'm wondering if there is a way I 
could legally leverage Frame when working with that team. Using Frame's 
conditional text option to create at least 3 different software manuals around 
a large core of shared text would be a godsend.

I know you can legally install Frame on 2 machines so long as only one machine 
is in use at a time. Has anyone ever tried this in order to share Frame with 
another writer?

Or can you legally install a single seat copy of Frame on a server and have it 
work properly (with one user at a time)?


If none of these options will work, maybe I'll have to see if I can make a 
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Re: [Framers] Grammar Question

2019-04-29 Thread Lin Sims
I didn't look to see if RS-485 was a standard. If it is, then "compliant"
is definitely a better choice.

On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 10:39 AM Art Campbell 
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> Second Lin's wording, but I would use "compliant" instead of "enabled"
> because "enabled" in this context is over the line into jargon.
>
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>   "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and
> a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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>DoD 358
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 9:06 AM Lin Sims  wrote:
>
> > This cable connects to devices that are RS-485 enabled.
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 7:57 AM Doug  wrote:
> >
> > > In the sentence below regarding RS-485 technology, I really don't want
> to
> > > use consecutive hyphens.  Can you suggest a decent alternative?  Thanks
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Re: [Framers] Grammar Question

2019-04-29 Thread Art Campbell
Second Lin's wording, but I would use "compliant" instead of "enabled"
because "enabled" in this context is over the line into jargon.

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>
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Re: [Framers] Grammar Question

2019-04-29 Thread Lin Sims
This cable connects to devices that are RS-485 enabled.

On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 7:57 AM Doug  wrote:

> In the sentence below regarding RS-485 technology, I really don't want to
> use consecutive hyphens.  Can you suggest a decent alternative?  Thanks in
> advance.
>
> This cable connects to RS-485-enabled devices.
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[Framers] Grammar Question

2019-04-29 Thread Doug
In the sentence below regarding RS-485 technology, I really don't want to
use consecutive hyphens.  Can you suggest a decent alternative?  Thanks in
advance.

This cable connects to RS-485-enabled devices.
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Re: [Framers] [FrameMaker 2019] Customizing responsive HTML5 output: best practices and good documentation?

2019-04-29 Thread Caroline Tabach
I have been doing responsive HTML 5 output.

Regarding the settings file, sometimes it suddenly becomes corrupted, so
make a copy of the file you are using

Caroline Tabach

On Mon, 29 Apr 2019, 13:00 Reng Winfried, 
wrote:

> Hi Yves,
>
> I also started to convert my unstructured documentation to HTML5.
> And I do not have any tutorials or best practices. I am still
> experimenting.
> I will look for more information in the online help and in the various
> forums
> and blogs.
> My first impressions and questions:
>
> o Default settings are good.
>
> o I do not know which font will be used. Probably my font will be replaced
>   by something else. However, I do not know, which fonts are on Android
>   or iOS. Is there are default replacement?
>
> o Graphics conversion with SVG is best. However, if you have
>   some other objects in the same anchored frame, then you should
>   convert to raster images. I find the results much better than I expected.
>
> o When you have tables with table titles with several paragraphs, then
>   you have to use a work-around. HTML allows only a single paragraph.
>   See here: https://forums.adobe.com/message/10987920#10987920
>
> o I do not know how I can define which text goes into a topic title.
>   E.g. when my paragraph to start a new topic has a table anchor, then
>   the whole anchor paragraph and the whole table text will be in the topic
>   title.
>
> o Most of our products have order codes like 123.4567. When I want
>   to search for such order codes, the . is interpreted as separator between
>   two words. As if I want to search for 123 and 4567. I do not know a
> solution.
>
> o Of course I had written documents with a certain layout. I have to find
>   solutions for some of my paragraph layouts (e.g. right-aligned tab
> stops).
>
> o I adapt a copy of the regular settings file on our network. I do not
> know,
>   if there is a standard solution, where this settings file should reside.
>
> Best regards
>
> Winfried
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers  carecom-solutions@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf Of Yves Barbion
> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2019 10:58 AM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: [Framers] [FrameMaker 2019] Customizing responsive HTML5 output:
> best practices and good documentation?
>
> Hi group
>
> I'm looking for best practices and good documentation (or user groups) on
> how to use and customize FrameMaker 2019 responsive HTML5 output, generated
> from unstructured Fm files and from ditamaps. The FrameMaker "Help" does
> not help me very much:
>
> https://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/2019/using/framemaker_help.pdf
>
> Thanks
>
> Yves
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Re: [Framers] [FrameMaker 2019] Customizing responsive HTML5 output: best practices and good documentation?

2019-04-29 Thread Reng Winfried
Hi Yves,

I also started to convert my unstructured documentation to HTML5.
And I do not have any tutorials or best practices. I am still experimenting.
I will look for more information in the online help and in the various forums
and blogs.
My first impressions and questions:

o Default settings are good.

o I do not know which font will be used. Probably my font will be replaced
  by something else. However, I do not know, which fonts are on Android
  or iOS. Is there are default replacement?

o Graphics conversion with SVG is best. However, if you have
  some other objects in the same anchored frame, then you should
  convert to raster images. I find the results much better than I expected.

o When you have tables with table titles with several paragraphs, then
  you have to use a work-around. HTML allows only a single paragraph.
  See here: https://forums.adobe.com/message/10987920#10987920

o I do not know how I can define which text goes into a topic title.
  E.g. when my paragraph to start a new topic has a table anchor, then
  the whole anchor paragraph and the whole table text will be in the topic
  title.

o Most of our products have order codes like 123.4567. When I want
  to search for such order codes, the . is interpreted as separator between
  two words. As if I want to search for 123 and 4567. I do not know a solution.

o Of course I had written documents with a certain layout. I have to find
  solutions for some of my paragraph layouts (e.g. right-aligned tab stops).

o I adapt a copy of the regular settings file on our network. I do not know,
  if there is a standard solution, where this settings file should reside.

Best regards

Winfried

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
 On Behalf 
Of Yves Barbion
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2019 10:58 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] [FrameMaker 2019] Customizing responsive HTML5 output: best 
practices and good documentation?

Hi group

I'm looking for best practices and good documentation (or user groups) on how 
to use and customize FrameMaker 2019 responsive HTML5 output, generated from 
unstructured Fm files and from ditamaps. The FrameMaker "Help" does not help me 
very much:

https://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/2019/using/framemaker_help.pdf

Thanks

Yves 
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