Re: FM12 Transparent Graphics PLUS New Question

[Helen Borrie]

At 09:09 a.m. 4/06/2015, Dave Reynolds wrote:
I'm using Frame 8 on Win7 and occasionally the keyboard shortcuts (standard 
and custom) stop working for me too. As yet, I haven't found out why. I have 
to restart Frame to get them working again.

I'm using FM8 on Win7 64-bit and I've noticed similar, but only when I have one 
or more of those right-hand-side menus open.  I don't need to restart Frame to 
get the shortcuts back, though, just close those (damned near useless) 
side-menus.  It was the same when I had FM8 installed on XP.

Helen

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RE: Is the use of master pages a patent infringement?

[Helen Borrie]

At 03:15 a.m. 19/03/2015, Harding, Dan wrote:
 
Dang fumblefingers…

Careful, I have a patent application on that.
;-)

Helen


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RE: User's manual vs. User manual

[Helen Borrie]

At 12:44 p.m. 14/03/2015, Craig, Alison wrote:

Personally, I’ve always preferred User Manual. 
 
I find the other option awkward to say as well as awkward looking.

I agree.  If you use the possessive version, is it going to be User's Manual 
or Users' Manual ?  Too messy.

Helen
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Subject: User's manual vs. User manual
 
  Any thoughts on which is preferable for hardware products?
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Re: Text Inset vs. Variable Question (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Helen Borrie]

At 08:58 a.m. 11/12/2014, Zacchetti, Maeli E CIV USARMY ECBC (US) wrote:
Content-Language: en-US
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;

 boundary=_000_4FB2192B95EC4D4C8FBF126461A6557FA4C9B496ucolhpkmeasfcsd_

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: FOUO

I’m getting back to unstructured FrameMaker 10 (after two years of having to 
use MS Word). So apologies if I don’t use some of the correct terms or if I’m 
misunderstanding some of FrameMaker’s capabilities! 

Others are better equipped to give you the definitive answer.  I just wanted to 
compliment you on your excellent problem description!

Helen

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Re: A giggle from the Adobe website

[Helen Borrie]

Pat Christenson wrote:

I was visiting Adobe's website earlier and noticed that when you sign up, you 
have to make a choice from the list of Job Titles. One of the choices is End 
User.
 
Really? That's a job title? ;-)

At 07:19 a.m. 28/10/2014, Writer wrote:

It's a dirty job, but someone's gotta do it.

I hear the pay sucks, too.

And don't we *always* get the blame when something goes pear-shaped?

Helen

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Re: Fit or fitted?

[Helen Borrie]

At 12:28 p.m. 30/05/2014, Writer wrote:
It's not a verb in this case; it's a predicate adjective.

Nadine


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To: Stephen O'Brien sobr...@innovmetric.com; Frame Users 
(framers@lists.frameusers.com) framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 11:42:49 AM
Subject: Re: Fit or fitted?
 


Per Betty Azar, in American English, the present, simple past, and past tense 
of the verb to fit are all fit. 

Actually, it's not.  The example from the OP used fit as a transitive verb 
and fitted was applied as the past participle.  A pedagogue would rule this 
usage illegal but English, the bastard language of the world, grows this way.  
Usage of fit as a transitive verb has become widespread in my lifetime, 
although I'd have got the red crayon if I used it in a high school composition.

Things get muddy when we try to use fit in the passive voice, which is the 
usage in question here.  Intransitive verbs can't be used in passive voice so 
what do we do?  We can try to borrow the past historic of the intransitive 
verb, which is fit or we can pursue the formation of a participle by 
regularising it.  The members iof the Olympic team were fit for their new 
uniforms doesn't work.  The members of the Olympic team were fitted for their 
new uniforms seems to. 

My call would be that the regularising rule applies here.  If the OP MUST use 
passive voice (dubious tech writing practice at best) then make fitted the 
participle, rather than awkwardly stealing the past historic from the 
transitive verb. It fits better (sic: intransitive!) with other forward 
formations that are already in use.

Helen


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Re: Can't activate FM 11...

[Helen Borrie]

At 11:06 a.m. 14/05/2014, Karen Robbins wrote:
My IT person installed a licensed copy of FM11 on my colleague's computer. I 
am the keeper of license info for our unit. Since I wasn't around, he 
installed as a trial version. Now we cannot figure out how to activate it... 
no evidence of any screen or window in which to register, activate, enter a 
serial number, etc.

In the past, we've done this in one step so although I can't remember exactly 
how it goes, I know there's a place to enter all the appropriate stuff. Where 
oh where is it?

Do you not have the Activate/Deactivate options in the Help menu?  ('Course, 
I'm referring to FM8 here so things might have changed by FM11...)

Helen

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Re: Compatibility of old(ish) Software with Windows 7

[Helen Borrie]

At 12:47 a.m. 7/02/2014, Carrie Baker wrote:
Hello,

I don't think I am the only person with oldish software.

I work in a fairly small company, as a single technical writer.

I have FrameMaker 7, and use with Acrobat 7.

I have FrameMaker 8 and Acrobat 8 (jumped over from FM6 and Acro6, no upgrade 
path available at that point, since the new age Adobe actively prevents it as 
soon as there is an upgrade-ineligible newer version on the market).  

I started out with the same doubts as you.  The first installation of Win7 I 
had was on my 32-bit laptop.  I had retained all the FM and Acrobat updates as 
a hedge against the historical horrors of trying to reinstall on WinXP after a 
disk death.  After installing from the licensed CDs I carefully applied the 
updates, one by one, to test my doubts, always rebooting after each one.  I 
ended up with a perfect installation, not quick, but effective.  No XP mode.

Encouraged, I followed the same route when I went to install on my development 
box, a clean install on a 64-bit Win7.  I expected dramas.  Eighteen months 
down the track, there have been none.  Both products installed into Program 
Files (X86) and the updates knew where to find them.

With your FM7 and Acro7, I suggest   Just do it .  It will either work or 
it won't, as my wise old Norfolk mother-in-law would have said.  If it 
doesn't, you can run the Uninstall and then download CCleaner from 
www.filehippo.com, to get rid of the rubbish left behind.

Just a point to those encouraging Carrie to install as 64-bit - there's no 
way you can make a 32-bit application install or run as 64-bit. 

Another point - deriving from the earlier horror experiences of reinstalling on 
XP - is to install Acrobat FIRST (apply the updates later) and make sure the FM 
installer doesn't install Distiller or any other Acrobat components.  AFAIR, 
there's a dialog box that tells you there is an older version of Distiller 
already installedyou have to tell it to ignore that problem because it's 
not a problem, just bad logic in the installer.

Helen  

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ARRGH - why does the Import command still do this to me....?!?

[Helen Borrie]

At 04:54 p.m. 13/10/2013, Scott Turner wrote:
>I've use Silicon Prairie product for some 15 years. They are cost effective, 
>and not expensive. Those are two separate qualifiers. 
>
>They work, they are effective, they are  simple.

Amen to that. Worth their byte-count in gold.  Make sure you check EVERYTHING 
off before you start and then check ON the sets of formats you want.

I also keep a document that I use just for *very* selective format imports. I 
clean it out, import the set of formats I want to cherry-pick and then delete 
everything I don't want to import into the recipient documents.

Helen

Re: ARRGH - why does the Import command still do this to me....?!?

[Helen Borrie]

At 04:54 p.m. 13/10/2013, Scott Turner wrote:
I've use Silicon Prairie product for some 15 years. They are cost effective, 
and not expensive. Those are two separate qualifiers. 

They work, they are effective, they are  simple.

Amen to that. Worth their byte-count in gold.  Make sure you check EVERYTHING 
off before you start and then check ON the sets of formats you want.

I also keep a document that I use just for *very* selective format imports. I 
clean it out, import the set of formats I want to cherry-pick and then delete 
everything I don't want to import into the recipient documents.

Helen

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Engineers as authors

[Helen Borrie]

At 03:26 a.m. 8/10/2013, Stephen O'Brien wrote:

>Hi,
> 
>A few mechanical engineers have been asked, as part of their varied workload, 
>to author certain documents in English (How To, Webinars, software essentials) 
>in the near future.
> 
>Working with authors who are not formally trained is a new experience for me. 
>I am wondering how to best define their tasks and the tasks of my technical 
>writing group who will work together to ensure quality documents. For example:
> 
>? I could provide the engineers with templates in FrameMaker and an 
>introduction to the basics of technical writing and English grammar and bring 
>them to write good documents over time. Some formal training in technical 
>writing could be offered. The technical writers would then review the final 
>documents (container and content) to ensure the overall quality of the 
>documents.
> 
>? Or, maybe the role of the engineers should be to write rough content 
>within guidelines (get the ideas and workflows on paper), and my team of 
>technical writers could be responsible for formatting the content and 
>expressing their ideas/workflows correctly in English. This would take much 
>less time for the engineer (less of a learning curve).
> 
>Do you have some experience in this matter? Any hints for what may work best?

Is your task to train them to be tech writers or to be good informants?  Are 
you tasked with producing the documentation or just with editing it? The 
differences are crucial.  If they had meant to be tech writers, they wouldn't 
(usually) have ended up as mechanical engineers.  And that's discounting the 
built-in problem you possibly have there in Quebec, where numbers of the 
engineers may not have learnt their composition skills in English

Remember that old adage: "Don't keep a dog and bark yourself."  What sense 
would it make to hire a team of tech writers and then make the engineers 
produce near-final content?

My best advice is to CONSULT THE ENGINEERS.  Between you, you have to establish 
the reader audience and what needs to be got - from whom and by whom -  in 
order to produce each of the docs.  That needs Q & A on both sides, both 
initial and ongoing  The "how" will follow on once the basics are clear.

The engineers will have their own distinct preferences as to the tool they 
would use to deliver content to you.  In my experience, engineers often don't 
"get" word processors and just use them like a text editor.  Making them use 
Word templates is unreasonable for them.  Many prefer to use simple text 
editors or email.  You can put them in the way of using a freely available text 
editor like MS Notepad or free Notepad++ and offer elementary training to those 
who want it.  

Give them plain-text templates with headings and blocks that cover the 
information you've all agreed you need.  They can use those to build topic 
outlines and, subsequently, to fill up with content.  On your side, you can 
build your formal document outlines in Frame and "stuff them as you go".  The 
engineers are likely to be interested in the outlines of 
sections/chapters/volumes for which they, individually, will provide content.  
Those may or may not be congruent with the organisation of the published docs, 
so making and maintaining road maps may be a task for you and your team.  A lot 
depends on the intended audience, change management and other stuff they might 
not be involved in directly.

One place where you will need more source tool consistency is in figures, 
especially if the company uses one main CAD tool.  Your tech writers will need 
a tool for converting CAD output to Frame-friendly images if the software 
itself doesn't provide one.

Helen

Re: Engineers as authors

[Helen Borrie]

At 03:26 a.m. 8/10/2013, Stephen O'Brien wrote:

Hi,
 
A few mechanical engineers have been asked, as part of their varied workload, 
to author certain documents in English (How To, Webinars, software essentials) 
in the near future.
 
Working with authors who are not formally trained is a new experience for me. 
I am wondering how to best define their tasks and the tasks of my technical 
writing group who will work together to ensure quality documents. For example:
 
· I could provide the engineers with templates in FrameMaker and an 
introduction to the basics of technical writing and English grammar and bring 
them to write good documents over time. Some formal training in technical 
writing could be offered. The technical writers would then review the final 
documents (container and content) to ensure the overall quality of the 
documents.
 
· Or, maybe the role of the engineers should be to write rough content 
within guidelines (get the ideas and workflows on paper), and my team of 
technical writers could be responsible for formatting the content and 
expressing their ideas/workflows correctly in English. This would take much 
less time for the engineer (less of a learning curve).
 
Do you have some experience in this matter? Any hints for what may work best?

Is your task to train them to be tech writers or to be good informants?  Are 
you tasked with producing the documentation or just with editing it? The 
differences are crucial.  If they had meant to be tech writers, they wouldn't 
(usually) have ended up as mechanical engineers.  And that's discounting the 
built-in problem you possibly have there in Quebec, where numbers of the 
engineers may not have learnt their composition skills in English

Remember that old adage: Don't keep a dog and bark yourself.  What sense 
would it make to hire a team of tech writers and then make the engineers 
produce near-final content?

My best advice is to CONSULT THE ENGINEERS.  Between you, you have to establish 
the reader audience and what needs to be got - from whom and by whom -  in 
order to produce each of the docs.  That needs Q  A on both sides, both 
initial and ongoing  The how will follow on once the basics are clear.

The engineers will have their own distinct preferences as to the tool they 
would use to deliver content to you.  In my experience, engineers often don't 
get word processors and just use them like a text editor.  Making them use 
Word templates is unreasonable for them.  Many prefer to use simple text 
editors or email.  You can put them in the way of using a freely available text 
editor like MS Notepad or free Notepad++ and offer elementary training to those 
who want it.  

Give them plain-text templates with headings and blocks that cover the 
information you've all agreed you need.  They can use those to build topic 
outlines and, subsequently, to fill up with content.  On your side, you can 
build your formal document outlines in Frame and stuff them as you go.  The 
engineers are likely to be interested in the outlines of 
sections/chapters/volumes for which they, individually, will provide content.  
Those may or may not be congruent with the organisation of the published docs, 
so making and maintaining road maps may be a task for you and your team.  A lot 
depends on the intended audience, change management and other stuff they might 
not be involved in directly.

One place where you will need more source tool consistency is in figures, 
especially if the company uses one main CAD tool.  Your tech writers will need 
a tool for converting CAD output to Frame-friendly images if the software 
itself doesn't provide one.

Helen

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Windows 7 + FrameMaker 11 = BOOM!

[Helen Borrie]

At 01:32 a.m. 10/08/2013, Rick Quatro wrote:
> 
>Otherwise, make sure the writers have plenty of RAM. In my opinion, 8 GB is 
>the minimum. This may help with the performance problems.
> 

More than 4 GB of RAM is of absolutely no use for running a 32-bit application, 
whether it be on a 32-bit or 64-bit operating system.

Helen

Question about these frameusers lists

[Helen Borrie]

At 10:05 a.m. 21/06/2013, Theresa de Valence wrote:
>My questions/replies get posted to frameusers after a day or so. I have been 
>subscriber to these lists for more than 15(?) years but I had to 
>delete/refresh my subscription about a year or two ago.
>
>Does this happen to everyone? Is there anything I can do to get my messages to 
>post sooner?

I manage a large number of Mailman lists so I can tell you one or two things 
about the user management side of things that might affect the length of time 
it takes to see posts.

1. When a person subscribes (or is subscribed by an admin) the default is for 
the account to be moderated always.  That means your postings will wait in a 
holding area until someone gets to it, reads it and lets it through.

If yours is on 'Mod' it might be just an oversight or the list admin might have 
an issue with your usage.  You can send a message to the list admin (listadmin 
at frameusers.com) and ask for your account to be unmoderated.  

2.  If you post a message using an email address other than the one you are 
subscribed with, again your message will await moderation because it is from a 
non-subscribed email address.  Again, it is up to an admin to get to it, read 
it and OK it.

In addition to one or another of these delaying factors, if you are posting 
from a different time zone than the one the admin[s] live[s] in, you need to 
allow for the fact that (a) admins are volunteers who have day jobs and other 
joys to fill their days and (b) your daytime might be their night-time and your 
weekends might be a day out from theirs, either way.

On the lists I manage, there are some users who are just plain hopeless at 
using the lists.  They post bulky, fancy, junky HTML when list etiquette really 
needs more consideration for others ( P L A I N   T E X T  without screeds of 
company notices and adverts) and they include huge graphics as attachments 
because they are too darned lazy to copy just the text of error messages.  Most 
lists are set up to put large messages on hold. The high limit is usually set 
pretty low, about 1 - 5 KB. 

Persistent offenders are the bane of a list admin's life as they waste so much 
of our time.  They tend to go on permanent moderation, which pretty much 
guarantees delays for them.

Helen

Re: Question about these frameusers lists

[Helen Borrie]

At 10:05 a.m. 21/06/2013, Theresa de Valence wrote:
My questions/replies get posted to frameusers after a day or so. I have been 
subscriber to these lists for more than 15(?) years but I had to 
delete/refresh my subscription about a year or two ago.

Does this happen to everyone? Is there anything I can do to get my messages to 
post sooner?

I manage a large number of Mailman lists so I can tell you one or two things 
about the user management side of things that might affect the length of time 
it takes to see posts.

1. When a person subscribes (or is subscribed by an admin) the default is for 
the account to be moderated always.  That means your postings will wait in a 
holding area until someone gets to it, reads it and lets it through.

If yours is on 'Mod' it might be just an oversight or the list admin might have 
an issue with your usage.  You can send a message to the list admin 
(listad...@frameusers.com) and ask for your account to be unmoderated.  

2.  If you post a message using an email address other than the one you are 
subscribed with, again your message will await moderation because it is from a 
non-subscribed email address.  Again, it is up to an admin to get to it, read 
it and OK it.

In addition to one or another of these delaying factors, if you are posting 
from a different time zone than the one the admin[s] live[s] in, you need to 
allow for the fact that (a) admins are volunteers who have day jobs and other 
joys to fill their days and (b) your daytime might be their night-time and your 
weekends might be a day out from theirs, either way.

On the lists I manage, there are some users who are just plain hopeless at 
using the lists.  They post bulky, fancy, junky HTML when list etiquette really 
needs more consideration for others ( P L A I N   T E X T  without screeds of 
company notices and adverts) and they include huge graphics as attachments 
because they are too darned lazy to copy just the text of error messages.  Most 
lists are set up to put large messages on hold. The high limit is usually set 
pretty low, about 1 - 5 KB. 

Persistent offenders are the bane of a list admin's life as they waste so much 
of our time.  They tend to go on permanent moderation, which pretty much 
guarantees delays for them.

Helen



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OT: Acrobat printing bug with logical page numbers

[Helen Borrie]

At 02:17 a.m. 7/05/2013, Rick Quatro wrote:
>I have a PDF file set up with logical page numbering. If I want to print
>page 7-10 and type this in the Pages field, Acrobat prints physical pages 7
>through 10 from the PDF file instead of logical page 7-10. I tried it in
>Acrobat X and XI and the problem occurs in both. I am pretty sure it worked
>in early versions, but I don't know what version it stopped working on. Is
>this a known issue? Thanks.

Certainly it's an issue known to me! ;-)  It has been the way you describe in 
all the versions of Acrobat Pro I have worked through (4, 6 and 8) and also in 
Nitro Pro (all versions so far).  I'm typically working with books, having more 
than one logical numbering sequence, so I've just assumed that it had to be 
that way because Acrobat had no way to distinguish one set of numbers from 
another.

Helen

Re: OT: Acrobat printing bug with logical page numbers

[Helen Borrie]

At 02:17 a.m. 7/05/2013, Rick Quatro wrote:
I have a PDF file set up with logical page numbering. If I want to print
page 7-10 and type this in the Pages field, Acrobat prints physical pages 7
through 10 from the PDF file instead of logical page 7-10. I tried it in
Acrobat X and XI and the problem occurs in both. I am pretty sure it worked
in early versions, but I don't know what version it stopped working on. Is
this a known issue? Thanks.

Certainly it's an issue known to me! ;-)  It has been the way you describe in 
all the versions of Acrobat Pro I have worked through (4, 6 and 8) and also in 
Nitro Pro (all versions so far).  I'm typically working with books, having more 
than one logical numbering sequence, so I've just assumed that it had to be 
that way because Acrobat had no way to distinguish one set of numbers from 
another.

Helen

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RE: jpg images

[Helen Borrie]

At 06:04 p.m. 26/04/2013, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote:


transparent backgrounds (which GIF does not support) 

FWIW, GIF does support transparent backgrounds.  I prefer it over png for 
web-based, non-photo graphics.  I prefer tiff for any ink/paper job.

Helen


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[Helen Borrie]

At 06:04 p.m. 26/04/2013, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote:


>transparent backgrounds (which GIF does not support) 

FWIW, GIF does support transparent backgrounds.  I prefer it over png for 
web-based, non-photo graphics.  I prefer tiff for any ink/paper job.

Helen

Selecting Colours for Conditions

[Helen Borrie]

At 09:17 a.m. 19/04/2013, Alison Craig wrote:
>Content-Language: en-US
>Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
>
> boundary="_000_17474827509158478EE10BC6B977A3E30CC5A15342exchangeultra_"
>
>FM 9 Version: 9.0p255
>Unstructured
>OS: Windows 7, 64 bit
> 
>Does anyone know if any kind of ?guide? exists regarding the best colours to 
>choose when creating Conditions?
> 
>When I initially set up my Conditions, I spent a lot of time testing to see 
>how colours blended when I had multiple Conditions applied to the same text 
>(lots of combos ended up being virtually identical onscreen even though the 
>combination of underlying colours were quite different). It didn?t make sense 
>to use colours in the first place if I couldn?t tell where one combo stopped 
>and the next one started.
> 
>I now have to add 2 new conditions (on a tight deadline) so I really don?t 
>have a lot of time to test things. If someone has put together some kind of 
>guide, I?d really love to see it ? if you?re willing to share.

Recently I broke up a very large eBook into three volumes for print.  It's the 
first time I've using conditionals seriously.  I followed the advice in Sarah 
O'Keefe's book and avoided having overlapping conditions.  I had to play around 
a bit until I got useful contrasts.  

The book said that FM would show all overlapping conditions as magenta so it 
would be a good idea to avoid assigning magenta to a particular condition.  In 
fact, I never saw magenta at all;  all the overlaps that I had in my initial 
scheme (subsequently abandoned) came through as a sort of khaki when I did the 
conditionals for the first chapter.  That's when I decided Sarah was right and 
I should not try to piggyback the same conditions.

The scheme I ended up with was five conditions: eOnly, printOnly, Print1, 
Print2 and Print3.  (I have a navigation scheme built into the e-Version, which 
was not appropriate for the print books. The book will never have an omnibus 
print edition as it is wy too large.)  

I picked the brightest possible high-contrast colours for the five conditions 
(avoiding magenta by Sarah's advice and blue because the Silicon Prairie 
indexing tools use blue for index markers.  I also avoided red because Fm8 
seems to use it as a warning when conditions conflict in some way.)  I think I 
had forest green for eOnly, green for Print1, cyan for Print2, salmon for 
Print3 and dark blue for printOnly. 

On thing I did find was that it is very easy to change the entire colour 
scheme.  Once I had it pinned down, I just kept a card by me with the colours 
on it, so I didn't have to think about it when repeatedly swapping condition 
markers between {a colour} and {As Is}.

HTH, maybe a little bit, anyway...
Helen

Re: Selecting Colours for Conditions

[Helen Borrie]

At 09:17 a.m. 19/04/2013, Alison Craig wrote:
Content-Language: en-US
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;

 boundary=_000_17474827509158478EE10BC6B977A3E30CC5A15342exchangeultra_

FM 9 Version: 9.0p255
Unstructured
OS: Windows 7, 64 bit
 
Does anyone know if any kind of “guide” exists regarding the best colours to 
choose when creating Conditions?
 
When I initially set up my Conditions, I spent a lot of time testing to see 
how colours blended when I had multiple Conditions applied to the same text 
(lots of combos ended up being virtually identical onscreen even though the 
combination of underlying colours were quite different). It didn’t make sense 
to use colours in the first place if I couldn’t tell where one combo stopped 
and the next one started.
 
I now have to add 2 new conditions (on a tight deadline) so I really don’t 
have a lot of time to test things. If someone has put together some kind of 
guide, I’d really love to see it – if you’re willing to share.

Recently I broke up a very large eBook into three volumes for print.  It's the 
first time I've using conditionals seriously.  I followed the advice in Sarah 
O'Keefe's book and avoided having overlapping conditions.  I had to play around 
a bit until I got useful contrasts.  

The book said that FM would show all overlapping conditions as magenta so it 
would be a good idea to avoid assigning magenta to a particular condition.  In 
fact, I never saw magenta at all;  all the overlaps that I had in my initial 
scheme (subsequently abandoned) came through as a sort of khaki when I did the 
conditionals for the first chapter.  That's when I decided Sarah was right and 
I should not try to piggyback the same conditions.

The scheme I ended up with was five conditions: eOnly, printOnly, Print1, 
Print2 and Print3.  (I have a navigation scheme built into the e-Version, which 
was not appropriate for the print books. The book will never have an omnibus 
print edition as it is wy too large.)  

I picked the brightest possible high-contrast colours for the five conditions 
(avoiding magenta by Sarah's advice and blue because the Silicon Prairie 
indexing tools use blue for index markers.  I also avoided red because Fm8 
seems to use it as a warning when conditions conflict in some way.)  I think I 
had forest green for eOnly, green for Print1, cyan for Print2, salmon for 
Print3 and dark blue for printOnly. 

On thing I did find was that it is very easy to change the entire colour 
scheme.  Once I had it pinned down, I just kept a card by me with the colours 
on it, so I didn't have to think about it when repeatedly swapping condition 
markers between {a colour} and {As Is}.

HTH, maybe a little bit, anyway...
Helen

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Cost of software charged outside US borders

[Helen Borrie]

At 09:23 a.m. 23/02/2013, Alan T Litchfield wrote:
>I have complained on this list before about price gouging by Adobe, but this 
>article (albeit about music, refers to Adobe too) is interesting in that my 
>concerns have been noted by others.

Actually, Shatanu Narayen gave a crazy press conference on the issue earlier in 
the week.  Look at 
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/adobe-chief-dodges-questions-over-pricing-20130214-2eetr.html
 for evidence that even Adobe's CEO (despite some mind-boggling verbal 
diarrhoea) doesn't actually have a clue why it costs us twice as much to buy 
his software than it costs his customers in other countries.  He seems to be 
saying we're lucky because of some sort of "marketing benefit" we get from 
being gouged.

Helen

Re: Cost of software charged outside US borders

[Helen Borrie]

At 09:23 a.m. 23/02/2013, Alan T Litchfield wrote:
I have complained on this list before about price gouging by Adobe, but this 
article (albeit about music, refers to Adobe too) is interesting in that my 
concerns have been noted by others.

Actually, Shatanu Narayen gave a crazy press conference on the issue earlier in 
the week.  Look at 
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/adobe-chief-dodges-questions-over-pricing-20130214-2eetr.html
 for evidence that even Adobe's CEO (despite some mind-boggling verbal 
diarrhoea) doesn't actually have a clue why it costs us twice as much to buy 
his software than it costs his customers in other countries.  He seems to be 
saying we're lucky because of some sort of marketing benefit we get from 
being gouged.

Helen



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SOLVED Re: FM8 u/s: Conditional cross-refs

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At 09:01 p.m. 20/02/2013, Helen Borrie wrote:
Hello list,

I'm struggling a bit here with conditionals, specifically text containing 
cross-references.  The original unstructured book is 40 chapters and 14 
appendices with all the other usual front and back matter.  It is in 
distribution as a PDF.  Naturally it has a ton of cross-references and 
navigation aids. 

The book is too big to print so the current project is to break it into three 
volumes for indy publication as paper books via CreateSpace.  The one thing 
that is holding me up and driving me bananas is that, although I'm 
conditioning these cross-refs out of the print books, I can't get through a 
book update because they are being treated as unresolved.  I *am* setting the 
updates not to update cross-refs.

Is there something I can do to make the update process ignore the unresolved 
cross-refs so that it will continue and generate the TOC and the index?  Or do 
I literally have to work with completely separated projects for each of the 
four book options?  I hope not, as I want and need to keep the main book as 
single source. 

I look forward to any tips or tricks to achieve what I want to do.  

For the record - my modus operandi for splitting the book was all wrong.  I 
created three new .book files and included renamed copies the TOC and IX files 
in the appropriate places.  That's why the updating wouldn't work, nothing to 
do with the unresolved cross-refs.

Stepped back a pace, put the new .book files out of sight and then proceeded to 
cut and dice the original .book file. It took less than 5 minutes.  Result: 
Book 1 is ready to go.  Ta-daa!  Tomorrow I will repeat the exercise for Books 
2 and 3 and (fingers crossed) I will make my 28 February deadline with source 
file integrity intact.

Thanks to the folk who tried to help me through a slow-brain day. 

Helen

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FM8 u/s: Conditional cross-refs

[Helen Borrie]

At 11:42 p.m. 20/02/2013, Shmuel Wolfson wrote:
>Are you sure it's not generating the TOC and index? It thought Frame updated 
>whatever it could, even if some things were unresolved.

I was hoping that would be so, but so far it is not.  I'll persevere because 
I'm not keen to throw the baby out with the bathwater by breaking the main 
book.  The page (re)numbering is good, the conditionals work.  I just can't get 
the update process to ignore the hidden unresolved cross-refs.  I guess there's 
something I'm not seeing yet, to explain why the TOC and the index won't update.

Thanks,
Helen

FM8 u/s: Conditional cross-refs

[Helen Borrie]

At 10:37 a.m. 21/02/2013, rebecca officer wrote:
>Hi Helen
> 
>Our books end up with thousands of hidden unresolved xrefs and they've never 
>been a problem.
> 
>If I'm reading this right, your TOC etc won't update, and you're blaming the 
>hidden unresolved xrefs. Right?

Well...more like "assuming they're connected to the problem".

> I think the hidden unresolved xrefs probably aren't the problem. What 
> evidence do you have that they are? Ie, exactly what errors does FM throw 
> when you try and do the update? 

Only the unresolved cross-refs...with links that go nowhere because the 
offending cross-refs are hidden.

>Generated files can be a pain for a whole bunch of reasons.

As I now find, for the first time ever.  At first, the TOC and the IDX files 
were giving unavailable font errors which I fixed by the recommended method.  
The problem fonts (Courier and Times) aren't used in the book at all - they 
were inherited from the original templates and I've never been able to kill 
them.

One other angle on the conditions is that the setup was previously on 32-bit 
WinXP, whereas now it's on 64-bit Win 7 on upgraded hardware.  I haven't built 
the big book on this setup.

I think I'm just going to have to push on until I get a breakthrough.

Kia ora!
Helen


> 
>Cheers
>Rebecca
>
>
>>>> Helen Borrie  21/02/13 09:17 >>>
>At 11:42 p.m. 20/02/2013, Shmuel Wolfson wrote:
>>Are you sure it's not generating the TOC and index? It thought Frame updated 
>>whatever it could, even if some things were unresolved.
>
>I was hoping that would be so, but so far it is not.  I'll persevere because 
>I'm not keen to throw the baby out with the bathwater by breaking the main 
>book.  The page (re)numbering is good, the conditionals work.  I just can't 
>get the update process to ignore the hidden unresolved cross-refs.  I guess 
>there's something I'm not seeing yet, to explain why the TOC and the index 
>won't update.
>
>Thanks,
>Helen
>
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SOLVED Re: FM8 u/s: Conditional cross-refs

[Helen Borrie]

At 09:01 p.m. 20/02/2013, Helen Borrie wrote:
>Hello list,
>
>I'm struggling a bit here with conditionals, specifically text containing 
>cross-references.  The original unstructured book is 40 chapters and 14 
>appendices with all the other usual front and back matter.  It is in 
>distribution as a PDF.  Naturally it has a ton of cross-references and 
>navigation aids. 
>
>The book is too big to print so the current project is to break it into three 
>volumes for indy publication as paper books via CreateSpace.  The one thing 
>that is holding me up and driving me bananas is that, although I'm 
>conditioning these cross-refs out of the print books, I can't get through a 
>book update because they are being treated as unresolved.  I *am* setting the 
>updates not to update cross-refs.
>
>Is there something I can do to make the update process ignore the unresolved 
>cross-refs so that it will continue and generate the TOC and the index?  Or do 
>I literally have to work with completely separated projects for each of the 
>four book options?  I hope not, as I want and need to keep the main book as 
>single source. 
>
>I look forward to any tips or tricks to achieve what I want to do.  

For the record - my modus operandi for splitting the book was all wrong.  I 
created three new .book files and included renamed copies the TOC and IX files 
in the appropriate places.  That's why the updating wouldn't work, nothing to 
do with the unresolved cross-refs.

Stepped back a pace, put the new .book files out of sight and then proceeded to 
cut and dice the original .book file. It took less than 5 minutes.  Result: 
Book 1 is ready to go.  Ta-daa!  Tomorrow I will repeat the exercise for Books 
2 and 3 and (fingers crossed) I will make my 28 February deadline with source 
file integrity intact.

Thanks to the folk who tried to help me through a slow-brain day. 

Helen

FM8 u/s: Conditional cross-refs

[Helen Borrie]

Hello list,

I'm struggling a bit here with conditionals, specifically text containing 
cross-references.  The original unstructured book is 40 chapters and 14 
appendices with all the other usual front and back matter.  It is in 
distribution as a PDF.  Naturally it has a ton of cross-references and 
navigation aids. 

The book is too big to print so the current project is to break it into three 
volumes for indy publication as paper books via CreateSpace.  The one thing 
that is holding me up and driving me bananas is that, although I'm conditioning 
these cross-refs out of the print books, I can't get through a book update 
because they are being treated as unresolved.  I *am* setting the updates not 
to update cross-refs.

Is there something I can do to make the update process ignore the unresolved 
cross-refs so that it will continue and generate the TOC and the index?  Or do 
I literally have to work with completely separated projects for each of the 
four book options?  I hope not, as I want and need to keep the main book as 
single source. 

I look forward to any tips or tricks to achieve what I want to do.  

Thanks,
Helen


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Re: FM8 u/s: Conditional cross-refs

[Helen Borrie]

At 11:42 p.m. 20/02/2013, Shmuel Wolfson wrote:
Are you sure it's not generating the TOC and index? It thought Frame updated 
whatever it could, even if some things were unresolved.

I was hoping that would be so, but so far it is not.  I'll persevere because 
I'm not keen to throw the baby out with the bathwater by breaking the main 
book.  The page (re)numbering is good, the conditionals work.  I just can't get 
the update process to ignore the hidden unresolved cross-refs.  I guess there's 
something I'm not seeing yet, to explain why the TOC and the index won't update.

Thanks,
Helen

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Re: FM8 u/s: Conditional cross-refs

[Helen Borrie]

At 10:37 a.m. 21/02/2013, rebecca officer wrote:
Hi Helen
 
Our books end up with thousands of hidden unresolved xrefs and they've never 
been a problem.
 
If I'm reading this right, your TOC etc won't update, and you're blaming the 
hidden unresolved xrefs. Right?

Well...more like assuming they're connected to the problem.

 I think the hidden unresolved xrefs probably aren't the problem. What 
 evidence do you have that they are? Ie, exactly what errors does FM throw 
 when you try and do the update? 

Only the unresolved cross-refs...with links that go nowhere because the 
offending cross-refs are hidden.

Generated files can be a pain for a whole bunch of reasons.

As I now find, for the first time ever.  At first, the TOC and the IDX files 
were giving unavailable font errors which I fixed by the recommended method.  
The problem fonts (Courier and Times) aren't used in the book at all - they 
were inherited from the original templates and I've never been able to kill 
them.

One other angle on the conditions is that the setup was previously on 32-bit 
WinXP, whereas now it's on 64-bit Win 7 on upgraded hardware.  I haven't built 
the big book on this setup.

I think I'm just going to have to push on until I get a breakthrough.

Kia ora!
Helen


 
Cheers
Rebecca


 Helen Borrie hele...@iinet.net.au 21/02/13 09:17 
At 11:42 p.m. 20/02/2013, Shmuel Wolfson wrote:
Are you sure it's not generating the TOC and index? It thought Frame updated 
whatever it could, even if some things were unresolved.

I was hoping that would be so, but so far it is not.  I'll persevere because 
I'm not keen to throw the baby out with the bathwater by breaking the main 
book.  The page (re)numbering is good, the conditionals work.  I just can't 
get the update process to ignore the hidden unresolved cross-refs.  I guess 
there's something I'm not seeing yet, to explain why the TOC and the index 
won't update.

Thanks,
Helen

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FM8 u/s: Conditional cross-refs

[Helen Borrie]

Hello list,

I'm struggling a bit here with conditionals, specifically text containing 
cross-references.  The original unstructured book is 40 chapters and 14 
appendices with all the other usual front and back matter.  It is in 
distribution as a PDF.  Naturally it has a ton of cross-references and 
navigation aids. 

The book is too big to print so the current project is to break it into three 
volumes for indy publication as paper books via CreateSpace.  The one thing 
that is holding me up and driving me bananas is that, although I'm conditioning 
these cross-refs out of the print books, I can't get through a book update 
because they are being treated as unresolved.  I *am* setting the updates not 
to update cross-refs.

Is there something I can do to make the update process ignore the unresolved 
cross-refs so that it will continue and generate the TOC and the index?  Or do 
I literally have to work with completely separated projects for each of the 
four book options?  I hope not, as I want and need to keep the main book as 
single source. 

I look forward to any tips or tricks to achieve what I want to do.  

Thanks,
Helen

Re: Looking for your favorite FM resources

[Helen Borrie]

At 12:43 p.m. 11/12/2012, Matt Sullivan wrote:
I'm in the process of finishing up the FM 11 book I'm updating in conjunction 
with Sarah O'Keefe.

The book will again contain FM and tech comm resources in an appendix.

I would like to make sure I don't miss anyone's favorites!

Are any of your favorite folks/organizations not listed below?

Not a folk nor an organisation but PureText: 
http://www.stevemiller.net/puretext/  is absolutely indispensible if (like 
mine) your documentary life revolves around converting hamburger back into 
steak.

Helen

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Looking for your favorite FM resources

[Helen Borrie]

At 12:43 p.m. 11/12/2012, Matt Sullivan wrote:
>I'm in the process of finishing up the FM 11 book I'm updating in conjunction 
>with Sarah O'Keefe.
>
>The book will again contain FM and tech comm resources in an appendix.
>
>I would like to make sure I don't miss anyone's favorites!
>
>Are any of your favorite folks/organizations not listed below?

Not a "folk" nor an organisation but PureText: 
http://www.stevemiller.net/puretext/  is absolutely indispensible if (like 
mine) your documentary life revolves around converting hamburger back into 
steak.

Helen

FM 9 Blinking linked images

[Helen Borrie]

At 05:41 AM 21/11/2012, Stephen O'Brien wrote:
> 
>We are several tech writers using books/documents on a server, containing 
>images imported by reference (also on the server). Network file locking is 
>activated. The network is relatively fast.
> 
>Every day on the same workstation (FM9.0p.255, Windows 7 SP1), even in small 
>documents (2 pages, 1 image), the image starts to blink. FM seems to freeze at 
>this point (cannot scroll in the document or access menus). Must wait. Can 
>last for minutes. A reboot re-establishes some order for a while (hours).
> 
>The writer often has used Snag-It to get a screen shot just previous to this 
>behavior. We all use Snag-It for screen captures.
> 
>Any ideas? Our IT people are not familiar with FM and have not seen this 
>problem before. I have searched the knowledge base without success.
> 
>Thx for any suggestions.
> 

What everyone else said, but just another thought --

If the network server is Windows, have you checked that the problem 
workstations are not causing the count of connections to the network to topple 
over the OS licence limit?

Helen

Re: FM 9 Blinking linked images

[Helen Borrie]

At 05:41 AM 21/11/2012, Stephen O'Brien wrote:
 
We are several tech writers using books/documents on a server, containing 
images imported by reference (also on the server). Network file locking is 
activated. The network is relatively fast.
 
Every day on the same workstation (FM9.0p.255, Windows 7 SP1), even in small 
documents (2 pages, 1 image), the image starts to blink. FM seems to freeze at 
this point (cannot scroll in the document or access menus). Must wait. Can 
last for minutes. A reboot re-establishes some order for a while (hours).
 
The writer often has used Snag-It to get a screen shot just previous to this 
behavior. We all use Snag-It for screen captures.
 
Any ideas? Our IT people are not familiar with FM and have not seen this 
problem before. I have searched the knowledge base without success.
 
Thx for any suggestions.
 

What everyone else said, but just another thought --

If the network server is Windows, have you checked that the problem 
workstations are not causing the count of connections to the network to topple 
over the OS licence limit?

Helen

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Buying an old copy of FrameMaker

[Helen Borrie]

At 03:21 PM 2/10/2012, Shelly Schneider wrote:

>An additional contractor has been brought on by my company. If I can find a 
>low-price copy of FrameMaker, perhaps she won?t end up moving her docs to Word 
>(shudder). I know folks on this list swear by FrameMaker 8. FrameMaker 9 was a 
>bug-fest. I doubt I?ll find many people offering FrameMaker 10. I've had no 
>luck on eBay . I?d love to find a copy of FrameMaker 8  with a transferable 
>license (was it 8.2 everyone loved?). Does anybody have any thoughts or 
>caveats on how to go about this?  Thanks! 

I went the FM 8 route after trying to work with the FM 9 trial version and 
nearly losing my mind with the damned pods and a raft of things that either 
didn't work, disappeared spontaneously, or caused FM to fall over completely.  
The day I decided to buy the FM8 *upgrade* (from v.6) instead, was a few days 
after the FM 9 release.  By that time, Adobe had pulled every FM 8 pack in the 
world.  Even resellers who actually had stocks were not allowed to sell it.  
The only solution Adobe offered at that time (2009) was to buy the *full* FM 9 
retail pack and use that licence to apply for a URL to download the FM 8 
downgrade as an ISO.

Companies do clear out unused stuff from time to time and I did eventually 
manage to source an unopened retail pack at an attainable price, through eBay, 
after a while of watching.  With all the updates, it is announcing itself as 
v.8.0p277.  Another possible source is Amazon, as remaindered software is often 
offered there by third parties.

A possible caveat at this distance could be that Adobe might have pulled the 
updates.  I just don't know.  At the time I needed them, they were available;  
but that was 2009.  That said, if you are using FM 8 on site already, you 
probably have all the updates backed up for reinstalls, as I do.

Good luck!
Helen

Re: Buying an old copy of FrameMaker

[Helen Borrie]

At 03:21 PM 2/10/2012, Shelly Schneider wrote:

An additional contractor has been brought on by my company. If I can find a 
low-price copy of FrameMaker, perhaps she won’t end up moving her docs to Word 
(shudder). I know folks on this list swear by FrameMaker 8. FrameMaker 9 was a 
bug-fest. I doubt I’ll find many people offering FrameMaker 10. I've had no 
luck on eBay . I’d love to find a copy of FrameMaker 8  with a transferable 
license (was it 8.2 everyone loved?). Does anybody have any thoughts or 
caveats on how to go about this?  Thanks! 

I went the FM 8 route after trying to work with the FM 9 trial version and 
nearly losing my mind with the damned pods and a raft of things that either 
didn't work, disappeared spontaneously, or caused FM to fall over completely.  
The day I decided to buy the FM8 *upgrade* (from v.6) instead, was a few days 
after the FM 9 release.  By that time, Adobe had pulled every FM 8 pack in the 
world.  Even resellers who actually had stocks were not allowed to sell it.  
The only solution Adobe offered at that time (2009) was to buy the *full* FM 9 
retail pack and use that licence to apply for a URL to download the FM 8 
downgrade as an ISO.

Companies do clear out unused stuff from time to time and I did eventually 
manage to source an unopened retail pack at an attainable price, through eBay, 
after a while of watching.  With all the updates, it is announcing itself as 
v.8.0p277.  Another possible source is Amazon, as remaindered software is often 
offered there by third parties.

A possible caveat at this distance could be that Adobe might have pulled the 
updates.  I just don't know.  At the time I needed them, they were available;  
but that was 2009.  That said, if you are using FM 8 on site already, you 
probably have all the updates backed up for reinstalls, as I do.

Good luck!
Helen

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Re: Framemaker 8 freezing with Win7, do Frame 8 patches apply to Win7?

[Helen Borrie]

At 09:34 AM 3/10/2012, Lise Bible wrote:

I'm using Frame 8.0p266 on a Windows 7 machine, 64-bit, 2.4GHz processor, 12GB 
of RAM.
I was running Frame 8 on my previous WinXP computer, with no issues, though I 
do not recall if that one was patched; that computer has since been wiped and 
given to a colleague, so there's no way to check.

But my Frame 8.0p266 has been doing the occasional freezing, i.e., it will 
stop responding, and my only choice is to kill it, thereby losing work. I 
think it happens when I'm selecting text, but I'm not entirely sure.

In doing some googling, I have discovered that there are existing patches that 
are as-yet unapplied to my machine, per
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?platform=Windowsproduct=22http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?platform=Windowsproduct=22

But when I choose HelpUpdates, Adobe Updater informs me that There are no 
updates available at this time. Please note that some updates for the 
following products cannot be determined at this time: Adobe Updater
And this seems odd to me because obviously there are newer patches. 

That *message* means there are no apparent updates for Adobe Updater.  So, if 
Adobe Updater can't be updated, it won't know whether any of the products it is 
set up to update (such as FM or Acrobat, etc.) has updates.  I've been seeing 
this message for about a year.

Is this because I'm on Windows 7?

I have FM 8 (original install from disk + all patches) running on a good ol' 
Thinkpad T60 on Win 7 Pro, 32-bit.


The system requirements for the updates I do not have (8p273 and 8p277), list: 
Microsoft® Windows 2000, Windows XP, or Windows Vista® (trial version not 
supported on Windows 2000), which specifically leaves out Windows 7.

Now, is that because Win7 was not available when this patch was released

Yes

, or is it not compatible with Win7?

No, I don't think incompatibility is the reason.  Fm 8.0p277 is running fine on 
my Win 7 box.

In general I understand being fully patched is a good idea, but I am hesitant 
to try this if it's not happy with Win7.

Other potential fixes for my freezing include running as compatible with WinXP 
SP3; but with the current security settings mandated by my corporate 
overlords, I am unable to run Frame 8 as compatible with WinXP SP3 without an 
administrator password, and that's not an option for me.

FM 8 installed and runs just fine as a 32-bit app on a plain-vanilla 32-bit Win 
7 so (theoretically) it should do likewise on a 64-bit Win 7 box.

My helpful IT person did grant me full access to the FrameMaker8 sub-folder on 
my hard drive, in case that was what was causing any issues (but I just froze 
again, so evidently not).

Be aware that I do my installations *and* run programs as an Administrator, so 
there's a difference between your situation and mine.  However, I don't do them 
under escalated privileges (Run as Administrator).  If your helpful IT person 
is the only one permitted to run anything under Administrator privs, maybe you 
need for her/him to reinstall it all for you (original + all patches).

So is patching my best hope? 

You make it sound as though patching is something you do only if the 
alternative is certain death!  Patching fixes [some] bugs and FM 8 had lots of 
them.  Why not just do the patches and see whether it solves your problems?

Good luck, whatever you do.
Helen


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Make clipboard paste text as unicode

[Helen Borrie]

At 07:58 AM 7/09/2012, Studio Smalbro wrote:
>My FrameMaker 10 has a modified maker.ini which sets txt as primary format 
>when pasting from clipboard. But now I need to be able to paste as unicode 
>text. I need to paste russian text from a spreadsheet into FrameMaker without 
>making all sorts of havoc. How do I fix that? Right now I merely get the 
>infamous rows of question marks when trying to copy paste even though I use 
>Times New Roman Cyr.

Have you tried Steve Miller's Puretext utility? 
http://www.stevemiller.net/puretext/

Helen

Re: Make clipboard paste text as unicode

[Helen Borrie]

At 07:58 AM 7/09/2012, Studio Smalbro wrote:
My FrameMaker 10 has a modified maker.ini which sets txt as primary format 
when pasting from clipboard. But now I need to be able to paste as unicode 
text. I need to paste russian text from a spreadsheet into FrameMaker without 
making all sorts of havoc. How do I fix that? Right now I merely get the 
infamous rows of question marks when trying to copy paste even though I use 
Times New Roman Cyr.

Have you tried Steve Miller's Puretext utility? 
http://www.stevemiller.net/puretext/

Helen

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PDF bookmarks anomaly

[Helen Borrie]

Hi group,
I have a very large book (40 chapters, 14 appendices + glossary, circa 1100 
pp.) in FM 8 unstructured that I'm printing to PDF via the Adobe printer.  All 
goes perfectly except for one anomalous thing in Bookmarks, that I can't seem 
to fix! 

First a picture, then a few more words...
Emacs!

All of the bookmarks that should be under Chapter 38 are appearing at the 
bottom of Chapter 37's bookmarks.  The para selections and levels in Ch. 38's 
PDF props are identical to the others'.  The TOC is correct.

Any ideas, anyone?

Thanks,
Helen
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SOLVED Re: PDF bookmarks anomaly

[Helen Borrie]

At 11:09 PM 7/06/2012, Helen Borrie wrote:
>Hi group,
>I have a very large book (40 chapters, 14 appendices + glossary, circa 1100 
>pp.) in FM 8 unstructured that I'm printing to PDF via the Adobe printer.  All 
>goes perfectly except for one anomalous thing in Bookmarks, that I can't seem 
>to fix! 
>
>First a picture, then a few more words...
>
>All of the bookmarks that should be under Chapter 38 are appearing at the 
>bottom of Chapter 37's bookmarks.  The para selections and levels in Ch. 38's 
>PDF props are identical to the others'.  The TOC is correct.
>
>Any ideas, anyone?

Three responses privately from Roger Shuttleworth, Samantha Lizak and Penelope 
Perkins and you were all dead right.  Somehow I'd corrupted the flow in 
chapters 37 and 38.  When I popped them both into clean templates, problem 
solved!

Thanks all.
Helen

SOLVED Re: PDF bookmarks anomaly

[Helen Borrie]

At 11:09 PM 7/06/2012, Helen Borrie wrote:
Hi group,
I have a very large book (40 chapters, 14 appendices + glossary, circa 1100 
pp.) in FM 8 unstructured that I'm printing to PDF via the Adobe printer.  All 
goes perfectly except for one anomalous thing in Bookmarks, that I can't seem 
to fix! 

First a picture, then a few more words...

All of the bookmarks that should be under Chapter 38 are appearing at the 
bottom of Chapter 37's bookmarks.  The para selections and levels in Ch. 38's 
PDF props are identical to the others'.  The TOC is correct.

Any ideas, anyone?

Three responses privately from Roger Shuttleworth, Samantha Lizak and Penelope 
Perkins and you were all dead right.  Somehow I'd corrupted the flow in 
chapters 37 and 38.  When I popped them both into clean templates, problem 
solved!

Thanks all.
Helen

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RE: FM 8 to ePub?

[Helen Borrie]

At 07:28 AM 7/11/2011, David Creamer wrote:
What is the cost of ePublisher? (It's not listed on the site.) The OP was
looking for a low-cost solution.

http://www.webworks.com/Tour/Pricing_Advantage/

ePublisher Subscription Pricing
ePublisher comes with four releases each year and includes premium support.
ePublisher Pro logo
Designer:
$795 (12 months)
ePublisher Express logo
Express:
$295 (12 months)

Hellish website to navigate, what!

Helen


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installing PDF printer driver

[Helen Borrie]

At 08:52 AM 24/10/2011, Art Campbell wrote:
>Short answer is that you should probably uninstall acrobat and reinstall.
>
>I would use RevoUninstaller, a free utility, to make sure you get all
>components. Then reboot and reinstall.

+1 for RevoUninstaller

 From bitter experience:
1.  Uninstall Acrobat Reader if you have it on the laptop.
2.  Don't forget to deactivate the Acro Pro licence before you uninstall it. 
(Help->Deactivate)

Helen

Re: installing PDF printer driver

[Helen Borrie]

At 08:52 AM 24/10/2011, Art Campbell wrote:
Short answer is that you should probably uninstall acrobat and reinstall.

I would use RevoUninstaller, a free utility, to make sure you get all
components. Then reboot and reinstall.

+1 for RevoUninstaller

 From bitter experience:
1.  Uninstall Acrobat Reader if you have it on the laptop.
2.  Don't forget to deactivate the Acro Pro licence before you uninstall it. 
(Help-Deactivate)

Helen


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Coaching Engineers

[Helen Borrie]

At 05:34 AM 11/10/2011, Galanter, Lea wrote:
>Huh? This is a list for people who use FrameMaker and you think most
>readers are not technical writers? Then who do you think is using
>FrameMaker? I'm interested in this discussion because it involves my
>work as an editor and writer. And just to add my .02 on this, it's
>usually the technical editor who trains people how to write.

Even though it ruffles your feathers, he's right.  This list does not involve 
your work as an editor and writer any more than it involves mine as a software 
engineer and writer or that of the OP as a medical doctor and writer.  It's 
about Framemaker.  

If you want a forum where you can discuss your other topics, why not create one?

Helen

RE: Coaching Engineers

[Helen Borrie]

At 05:34 AM 11/10/2011, Galanter, Lea wrote:
Huh? This is a list for people who use FrameMaker and you think most
readers are not technical writers? Then who do you think is using
FrameMaker? I'm interested in this discussion because it involves my
work as an editor and writer. And just to add my .02 on this, it's
usually the technical editor who trains people how to write.

Even though it ruffles your feathers, he's right.  This list does not involve 
your work as an editor and writer any more than it involves mine as a software 
engineer and writer or that of the OP as a medical doctor and writer.  It's 
about Framemaker.  

If you want a forum where you can discuss your other topics, why not create one?

Helen

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Stupid question #843: Importing a SINGLE paragraph style from another FM file?

[Helen Borrie]

At 08:09 AM 22/08/2011, Fred Ridder wrote:

>3) Use the Character Designer to add the paragraph format to the current 
>file's catalog.

-- Paragraph Designer --
;-)

H. 

RE: Stupid question #843: Importing a SINGLE paragraph style from another FM file?

[Helen Borrie]

At 08:09 AM 22/08/2011, Fred Ridder wrote:

3) Use the Character Designer to add the paragraph format to the current 
file's catalog.

-- Paragraph Designer --
;-)

H. 

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More re responses to can't get a pdf file from FM 10

[Helen Borrie]

At 11:02 AM 15/08/2011, Cal Callahan wrote:
> 
>Hmmm. Thanks, Mike. I will definitely check out those possibilities, 
>especially since, whenever I print fron FM (or try to print to pdF), I get a 
>notice that "Your font information has changed." The file still prints fine 
>from FM, but maybe that's a clue to one of the situations you mention.

I had that error with FM8.  Finally I cured it by adding Adobe's font folder to 
my system path - in my case, C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 8.0\Resource\Font.  
Actually, I think I picked up that tip from someone on this list. ;-) However, 
whilst I had that error, it wasn't preventing the creation of my .ps files, 
which is the route I take for producing PDFs.  (It's the only way I have found 
to get bookmarks and proper cross-ref linkages.)

Helen

Re: More re responses to can't get a pdf file from FM 10

[Helen Borrie]

At 11:02 AM 15/08/2011, Cal Callahan wrote:
 
Hmmm. Thanks, Mike. I will definitely check out those possibilities, 
especially since, whenever I print fron FM (or try to print to pdF), I get a 
notice that Your font information has changed. The file still prints fine 
from FM, but maybe that's a clue to one of the situations you mention.

I had that error with FM8.  Finally I cured it by adding Adobe's font folder to 
my system path - in my case, C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 8.0\Resource\Font.  
Actually, I think I picked up that tip from someone on this list. ;-) However, 
whilst I had that error, it wasn't preventing the creation of my .ps files, 
which is the route I take for producing PDFs.  (It's the only way I have found 
to get bookmarks and proper cross-ref linkages.)

Helen

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FM8: Bookmarks problem

[Helen Borrie]

At 11:42 PM 7/07/2011, Fred Ridder wrote:
>I think you are runnign up against one of FrameMaker's undocumented features. 
> 
>When you generate a PDF, FrameMaker passes bookmark data to Acrobat for all 
>the tag names that are set in the book file's PDF Setup, *plus* data for any 
>additional tags in a specific chapter if that chapter's file-level PDF Setup. 
>This behavior has been this way for a while--at least since FrameMaker 6 and 
>Acrobat 6, which was the first time I came up against it--and was apparently 
>done as a feature (although it is completely undocumented). 
> 
>If you look at the PDF Setup for the TOC file, I am certain you will see all 
>of the ...TOC styles in the "Include" list box on the Bookmarks tab. Just move 
>them to the "Don't Include" list and then save the TOC file with these 
>changes. When you next make the PDF, the TOC entries should be gone from the 
>bookmarks list.

Indeed, indeed!  Thanks to all who helped out with this - I had totally 
forgotten about the document-level settings.

Cheers,
Helen

FM8: Bookmarks problem

[Helen Borrie]

Hello List,

I'm having a problem with PDF generation from unstructured FM8.  I'm trying to 
build a sub-book at the moment for tech reviewers, consisting of a front 
page, a generated TOC and five chapters, in that order.  Bookmarks generation 
is selected and it is set up to make bookmarks for a specific include list of 
paragraph types.  The types defined for the TOC are not in that include list.

Although the book itself is in unstructured FM, the book structure is very 
tight and strictly hierarchical,  because this content will eventually be 
converted to structured. The bookmarks for the chapters are fine, but they are 
preceded by bookmarks for every entry in the TOC and for the front page. 

There is also a bookmark for the front page, which I do understand, since it 
contains one para format that is in the include list.

How can I suppress this bookmarking of the TOC entries, please?

TIA,
Helen

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RE: FM8: Bookmarks problem

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At 11:42 PM 7/07/2011, Fred Ridder wrote:
I think you are runnign up against one of FrameMaker's undocumented features. 
 
When you generate a PDF, FrameMaker passes bookmark data to Acrobat for all 
the tag names that are set in the book file's PDF Setup, *plus* data for any 
additional tags in a specific chapter if that chapter's file-level PDF Setup. 
This behavior has been this way for a while--at least since FrameMaker 6 and 
Acrobat 6, which was the first time I came up against it--and was apparently 
done as a feature (although it is completely undocumented). 
 
If you look at the PDF Setup for the TOC file, I am certain you will see all 
of the ...TOC styles in the Include list box on the Bookmarks tab. Just move 
them to the Don't Include list and then save the TOC file with these 
changes. When you next make the PDF, the TOC entries should be gone from the 
bookmarks list.

Indeed, indeed!  Thanks to all who helped out with this - I had totally 
forgotten about the document-level settings.

Cheers,
Helen

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FM8: Bookmarks problem

[Helen Borrie]

Hello List,

I'm having a problem with PDF generation from unstructured FM8.  I'm trying to 
build a "sub-book" at the moment for tech reviewers, consisting of a front 
page, a generated TOC and five chapters, in that order.  Bookmarks generation 
is selected and it is set up to make bookmarks for a specific include list of 
paragraph types.  The types defined for the TOC are not in that include list.

Although the book itself is in unstructured FM, the book structure is very 
tight and strictly hierarchical,  because this content will eventually be 
converted to structured. The bookmarks for the chapters are fine, but they are 
preceded by bookmarks for every entry in the TOC and for the front page. 

There is also a bookmark for the front page, which I do understand, since it 
contains one para format that is in the include list.

How can I suppress this bookmarking of the TOC entries, please?

TIA,
Helen

Make a URL non-breaking

[Helen Borrie]

Example:

For documentation and more information, visit http://freeadhocudf.org 

breaks across the end of a line like this:

For documentation and more information, visit http://
freeadhocudf.org.

It seems the slash character behaves like a breaking hyphen but I can't seem to 
find out how to fix this! 

Sorry, the live links were put there by my email client.  At the moment, I'm 
not seeking to put live links in the Frame document.  It would be OK to have 
them if there were no other option, though.

Thanks,
Helen

Make a URL non-breaking

[Helen Borrie]

At 10:18 AM 12/05/2011, Fei Min Lorente wrote:
>Hi Helen:
>
>I don't know which version of FrameMaker you're using, so this might not
>be exactly the same. On FrameMaker 7.2, under the Format menu, there is
>a Document option. Choose Text Options. I have a field there that says
>"Allow Line Breaks After:". You ought to have a slash character in that
>field. If you delete it, then it won't break there any more.

Brilliant, thanks Fei Min, just what the Dr ordered (FM 8).

Helen

Make a URL non-breaking

[Helen Borrie]

Example:

For documentation and more information, visit http://freeadhocudf.org 

breaks across the end of a line like this:

For documentation and more information, visit http://
freeadhocudf.org.

It seems the slash character behaves like a breaking hyphen but I can't seem to 
find out how to fix this! 

Sorry, the live links were put there by my email client.  At the moment, I'm 
not seeking to put live links in the Frame document.  It would be OK to have 
them if there were no other option, though.

Thanks,
Helen


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RE: Make a URL non-breaking

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At 10:18 AM 12/05/2011, Fei Min Lorente wrote:
Hi Helen:

I don't know which version of FrameMaker you're using, so this might not
be exactly the same. On FrameMaker 7.2, under the Format menu, there is
a Document option. Choose Text Options. I have a field there that says
Allow Line Breaks After:. You ought to have a slash character in that
field. If you delete it, then it won't break there any more.

Brilliant, thanks Fei Min, just what the Dr ordered (FM 8).

Helen

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Adobe ExportPDF

[Helen Borrie]

At 06:24 AM 7/05/2011, Owen, Clint wrote:

>Susan,
> 
>I think that this is a web-based service, which means that we would not be 
>able to use it for any proprietary or sensitive information. Virtually 
>everything we do would be off limits.
> 
>One of my co-workers suggested using a similar service to convert some CAD 
>models to a different format, but was quickly cautioned against it.
> 

What I've been doing (with chapters of a huge book, in this case) is printing 
to PDF and sending the PDF chapter file to reviewers for annotation.  The tool 
they are using for review is NitroPDF Reader (free download) that provides the 
same annotation capability that you pay for with Acrobat Pro.

Helen

RE: Adobe ExportPDF

[Helen Borrie]

At 06:24 AM 7/05/2011, Owen, Clint wrote:

Susan,
 
I think that this is a web-based service, which means that we would not be 
able to use it for any proprietary or sensitive information. Virtually 
everything we do would be off limits.
 
One of my co-workers suggested using a similar service to convert some CAD 
models to a different format, but was quickly cautioned against it.
 

What I've been doing (with chapters of a huge book, in this case) is printing 
to PDF and sending the PDF chapter file to reviewers for annotation.  The tool 
they are using for review is NitroPDF Reader (free download) that provides the 
same annotation capability that you pay for with Acrobat Pro.

Helen

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Re: Splitting tables across a page break: FM 8

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At 09:39 AM 17/03/2011, Jerilynne \MamaRed\ Knight wrote:
Hey there Helen

Did you want the specific ROW to indicate continued or the table itself? If 
the table itself, this approach will work. You insert the variable on the 
title row on the first page. 

That is what I wanted but it seems there's not a way to do it.  My table 
template doesn't have a title row.  It has a table caption and then goes 
right into the table, 2 cols with a column heading for each.  It is breaking 
correctly, insofar as it observes the 2-orphan rule and also dups the headings 
on the second sheet.  Just doesn't seem to be a way to put a conditional 
extraneous row there.

If you want something right after the row, I don't know of an automated 
way...just the brute force way.

I want to avoid brute force, as I have a number of very long tables of the 
glossary form, i.e., enumerations of class members, just an identifier and a 
description and I want them to be consistent.

Thanks!
Helen

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Splitting tables across a page break: FM 8

[Helen Borrie]

Hi All,
In unstructured FM8, if I have a table that might split across a page break if 
new content is added above it, is there a way that I can have a line of text 
e.g., "...continued" inserted conditionally after the last entry on the page, 
before the break?  Ideally, I would like to do this {whatever} with all table 
formats that are defined in my template.

Any ideas welcome.
Helen

Splitting tables across a page break: FM 8

[Helen Borrie]

At 08:58 AM 17/03/2011, Owen, Clint wrote:
>Helen,
>
>You can insert the "Table Continuation" or "Table Sheet" variable in
>your table title or table # paragraph.

Ah, thanks, I hoped there'd be something like that!  Now to go back and search 
the help again with the *right* key phrases. ;-) 

Cheers,
Helen

Splitting tables across a page break: FM 8

[Helen Borrie]

At 09:39 AM 17/03/2011, Jerilynne \"MamaRed\" Knight wrote:
>Hey there Helen
>
>Did you want the specific ROW to indicate continued or the table itself? If 
>the table itself, this approach will work. You insert the variable on the 
>title row on the first page. 

That is what I wanted but it seems there's not a way to do it.  My table 
template doesn't have a "title row".  It has a table caption and then goes 
right into the table, 2 cols with a column heading for each.  It is breaking 
correctly, insofar as it observes the 2-orphan rule and also dups the headings 
on the second sheet.  Just doesn't seem to be a way to put a conditional 
"extraneous" row there.

>If you want something right after the row, I don't know of an automated 
>way...just the brute force way.

I want to avoid brute force, as I have a number of very long tables of the 
glossary form, i.e., enumerations of class members, just an identifier and a 
description and I want them to be consistent.

Thanks!
Helen

Splitting tables across a page break: FM 8

[Helen Borrie]

Hi All,
In unstructured FM8, if I have a table that might split across a page break if 
new content is added above it, is there a way that I can have a line of text 
e.g., ...continued inserted conditionally after the last entry on the page, 
before the break?  Ideally, I would like to do this {whatever} with all table 
formats that are defined in my template.

Any ideas welcome.
Helen

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RE: Splitting tables across a page break: FM 8

[Helen Borrie]

At 08:58 AM 17/03/2011, Owen, Clint wrote:
Helen,

You can insert the Table Continuation or Table Sheet variable in
your table title or table # paragraph.

Ah, thanks, I hoped there'd be something like that!  Now to go back and search 
the help again with the *right* key phrases. ;-) 

Cheers,
Helen

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Re: So how many of us are stuck with Frame 7.2?

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At 08:15 AM 2/03/2011, Alan Litchfield wrote:
Yeah, I'm in that boat, and pricing in this part of the world is such that we 
get to pay significantly more than those stateside.

Worse, that upgrade thing is a cheat.  I was contentedly using FM6 which, when 
bought, had an upgrade path of two versions.  That meant I could upgrade to FM 
7 or FM8 when I was ready.  Yeah, right. 

The *same week Adobe released FM 9 they pulled all the upgrade packs for FM8 - 
just at the very moment I decided I wanted FM8 for the structured support.  
Every single outlet in Australia (and I rang them all!) told me the same story 
- FM8 upgrade packs are all packaged up ready to go back to Adobe, not allowed 
to sell them.

Finally got hold of Adobe sales/support in Australia (not easy!), to be told 
that, no, my only option now was to buy full FM9 and then apply for a downgrade 
to FM8.  This apparently comes as a link to an ISO in a secret corner of 
Adobe's ftp facilities: they don't supply a disk in return for all that money!

Well, I did not (and still don't) want FM9 and was in no way willing or able to 
beggar myself to get the FM8 upgrade I am entitled to.  Luckily, with a lot of 
perseverance, in March 2009, I was able to pick up a remaindered retail copy of 
full FM8 from **somewhere** (at remaindered software price, natch!) so was able 
to avoid the full Sting. IMO, Adobe's moving goalpost attitude to policy 
stinks at least 200% more than the sins that Microsoft is accused of!

So, no, I never did FM 7.  I guess I'm stuck with FM 8 now, but I'm 
comfortable with that. I think the Mac users have been roundly ripped off, too.

Bah! 

Helen

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So how many of us are stuck with Frame 7.2?

[Helen Borrie]

At 08:15 AM 2/03/2011, Alan Litchfield wrote:
>Yeah, I'm in that boat, and pricing in this part of the world is such that we 
>get to pay significantly more than those stateside.

Worse, that upgrade thing is a cheat.  I was contentedly using FM6 which, when 
bought, had an upgrade path of two versions.  That meant I could upgrade to FM 
7 or FM8 when I was ready.  Yeah, right. 

The *same week" Adobe released FM 9 they pulled all the upgrade packs for FM8 - 
just at the very moment I decided I wanted FM8 for the structured support.  
Every single outlet in Australia (and I rang them all!) told me the same story 
- FM8 upgrade packs are all packaged up ready to go back to Adobe, not allowed 
to sell them.

Finally got hold of Adobe sales/support in Australia (not easy!), to be told 
that, no, my only option now was to buy full FM9 and then apply for a downgrade 
to FM8.  This apparently comes as a link to an ISO in a secret corner of 
Adobe's ftp facilities: they don't supply a disk in return for all that money!

Well, I did not (and still don't) want FM9 and was in no way willing or able to 
beggar myself to get the FM8 upgrade I am entitled to.  Luckily, with a lot of 
perseverance, in March 2009, I was able to pick up a remaindered retail copy of 
full FM8 from **somewhere** (at remaindered software price, natch!) so was able 
to avoid the full Sting. IMO, Adobe's "moving goalpost" attitude to policy 
stinks at least 200% more than the sins that Microsoft is accused of!

So, no, I never did FM 7.  I guess I'm "stuck with FM 8" now, but I'm 
comfortable with that. I think the Mac users have been roundly ripped off, too.

Bah! 

Helen

Customer-friendly word for "landline"

[Helen Borrie]

At 01:38 PM 4/02/2011, Ann Zdunczyk wrote:
>I worked for Western Electric/AT/Lucent as a technical writer and I am
>very familiar with POTS!!! It is what we called them.

That label is on one of the sockets on my Belkin ADSL router, which supports 
VOIP.  I had to look it up to discover that it meant "for the landline phone". 
I don't think it's close to being an everyday term yet, though. ;-) 

BTW, "non-mobile" doesn't cover all landline phones, either.  Our landline 
phone is a RF transmitter with two cordless handsets!  I always stow one of the 
handsets in my jeans pocket when I'm outside weeding the garden!  (Mobile 
phone, a.k.a. cellphone, in the other pocket.)

Helen

RE: Customer-friendly word for landline

[Helen Borrie]

At 01:38 PM 4/02/2011, Ann Zdunczyk wrote:
I worked for Western Electric/ATT/Lucent as a technical writer and I am
very familiar with POTS!!! It is what we called them.

That label is on one of the sockets on my Belkin ADSL router, which supports 
VOIP.  I had to look it up to discover that it meant for the landline phone. 
I don't think it's close to being an everyday term yet, though. ;-) 

BTW, non-mobile doesn't cover all landline phones, either.  Our landline 
phone is a RF transmitter with two cordless handsets!  I always stow one of the 
handsets in my jeans pocket when I'm outside weeding the garden!  (Mobile 
phone, a.k.a. cellphone, in the other pocket.)

Helen

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Shortcut for "Repeat last"?

[Helen Borrie]

At 02:39 AM 3/02/2011, Stuart Rogers wrote:
>On 02/02/2011 4:05 AM, Helen Borrie wrote:
>>Using FM 8 unstructured - is there any shortcut (equivalent to Ctrl-Y
>>in Word) whereby one can repeat the last tagging instruction?
>
>Repeat last pgf tag: Esc j j
>Repeat last char tag: Esc c c

Yeee!!  thank you very much!

Helen

Shortcut for "Repeat last"?

[Helen Borrie]

At 01:25 AM 3/02/2011, Jerilynne \"MamaRed\" Knight wrote:

>Boy, that is one Word command I would love to have too...I'm not using 8, so I 
>don't know if there is one. 

I tried esc j j amd esc c c as suggested by Stuart and it does exactly the job 
I want.

>However, one possibility of speeding up the process: are there any unique 
>things identifying what equals a H1, H2, etc? Number of spaces, specific 
>characters, italic, bold?
>
>If so, what I do in those cases is a search and replace function. If you're a 
>super fancy person, you could write a script. If not, it is a serialized 
>function. 

Thanks for the thoughts on that, although in this instance, it's not what I 
want to do.  I actually *want* the source documents to come into the template 
without structure as they are from multiple sources with multiple ad hoc 
structures.  The template they are coming into is "structured unstructured" if 
you get my drift.  Although the content is for a monolithic book, I have 
designed the template to be able to convert the content to unstructured and 
round-trip it in future.

This project started as a structured DITA project and has wriggled its way back 
to unstructured once I lost the fight to find a way to do it structured and get 
the right output. With hindsight, I lost a lot (too much!) time by trying to 
make this book my first major DITA project.  Doesn't mean I have abandoned 
DITA/structured FM, by any means, just that it really does not work for this 
monolithic book!  I'm more than a year past deadline now. :-( 

So much for "I say".  I hope you won't mind if I post back your further 
comments to the list, as I think they are worth sharing

Jerilynne \"MamaRed\" Knight wrote:

>The other thing I did for a 6500 + page conversion from WordPerfect to Frame 
>is, oddly enough, run it through Word first. At the time, Word had a native 
>macro function and Frame didn't (I don't know if that has changed). So I 
>created a Word template with styles that matched those in Frame and wrote a 
>series of macros that applied tags, inserted codes for variables, etc. 
>
>Once it was written, it was very fast to bring in the file, click the macro 
>shortcut and poof, into Frame!
>
>I don't know how much converting you're doing or how frequently, so I wanted 
>to share those approaches in case they might give you some ideas!
>
>Many blessings
>Jerilynne

Thanks again to Jerilynne and others for the tips.
Cheers,
Helen

Shortcut for "Repeat last"?

[Helen Borrie]

At 08:04 AM 3/02/2011, Helen Borrie wrote:
>The template they are coming into is "structured unstructured" if you get my 
>drift.  Although the content is for a monolithic book, I have designed the 
>template to be able to convert the content to unstructured and round-trip it 
>in future.

She meant to write:
"Although the content is for a monolithic book, I have designed the template to 
be able to convert the content to ***structured*** and round-trip it in future.

(So many words, so little time!)

Cheers,
Helen 

Shortcut for Repeat last?

[Helen Borrie]

Using FM 8 unstructured - is there any shortcut (equivalent to Ctrl-Y in Word) 
whereby one can repeat the last tagging instruction? 

For example, I'm working on merging at lot of documents from various sources 
that I import into a templated document with all paras in Body format.  I'd 
like to be able to go through and tag all the Head 1 first, then all the Head 
2...and so on. 

Thanks,
Helen

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Re: Shortcut for Repeat last?

[Helen Borrie]

At 02:39 AM 3/02/2011, Stuart Rogers wrote:
On 02/02/2011 4:05 AM, Helen Borrie wrote:
Using FM 8 unstructured - is there any shortcut (equivalent to Ctrl-Y
in Word) whereby one can repeat the last tagging instruction?

Repeat last pgf tag: Esc j j
Repeat last char tag: Esc c c

Yeee!!  thank you very much!

Helen

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Re: Shortcut for Repeat last?

[Helen Borrie]

At 01:25 AM 3/02/2011, Jerilynne \MamaRed\ Knight wrote:

Boy, that is one Word command I would love to have too...I'm not using 8, so I 
don't know if there is one. 

I tried esc j j amd esc c c as suggested by Stuart and it does exactly the job 
I want.

However, one possibility of speeding up the process: are there any unique 
things identifying what equals a H1, H2, etc? Number of spaces, specific 
characters, italic, bold?

If so, what I do in those cases is a search and replace function. If you're a 
super fancy person, you could write a script. If not, it is a serialized 
function. 

Thanks for the thoughts on that, although in this instance, it's not what I 
want to do.  I actually *want* the source documents to come into the template 
without structure as they are from multiple sources with multiple ad hoc 
structures.  The template they are coming into is structured unstructured if 
you get my drift.  Although the content is for a monolithic book, I have 
designed the template to be able to convert the content to unstructured and 
round-trip it in future.

This project started as a structured DITA project and has wriggled its way back 
to unstructured once I lost the fight to find a way to do it structured and get 
the right output. With hindsight, I lost a lot (too much!) time by trying to 
make this book my first major DITA project.  Doesn't mean I have abandoned 
DITA/structured FM, by any means, just that it really does not work for this 
monolithic book!  I'm more than a year past deadline now. :-( 

So much for I say.  I hope you won't mind if I post back your further 
comments to the list, as I think they are worth sharing

Jerilynne \MamaRed\ Knight wrote:

The other thing I did for a 6500 + page conversion from WordPerfect to Frame 
is, oddly enough, run it through Word first. At the time, Word had a native 
macro function and Frame didn't (I don't know if that has changed). So I 
created a Word template with styles that matched those in Frame and wrote a 
series of macros that applied tags, inserted codes for variables, etc. 

Once it was written, it was very fast to bring in the file, click the macro 
shortcut and poof, into Frame!

I don't know how much converting you're doing or how frequently, so I wanted 
to share those approaches in case they might give you some ideas!

Many blessings
Jerilynne

Thanks again to Jerilynne and others for the tips.
Cheers,
Helen

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Re: Shortcut for Repeat last?

[Helen Borrie]

At 08:04 AM 3/02/2011, Helen Borrie wrote:
The template they are coming into is structured unstructured if you get my 
drift.  Although the content is for a monolithic book, I have designed the 
template to be able to convert the content to unstructured and round-trip it 
in future.

She meant to write:
Although the content is for a monolithic book, I have designed the template to 
be able to convert the content to ***structured*** and round-trip it in future.

(So many words, so little time!)

Cheers,
Helen 

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Shortcut for "Repeat last"?

[Helen Borrie]

Using FM 8 unstructured - is there any shortcut (equivalent to Ctrl-Y in Word) 
whereby one can repeat the last tagging instruction? 

For example, I'm working on merging at lot of documents from various sources 
that I import into a templated document with all paras in Body format.  I'd 
like to be able to go through and tag all the Head 1 first, then all the Head 
2...and so on. 

Thanks,
Helen

Dots in tag names

[Helen Borrie]

At 02:36 AM 30/11/2010, Jeremy H. Griffith and several others wrote helpful 
advice on this question.  Thanks, everyone.

Helen

Dots in tag names

[Helen Borrie]

Is it legal to use dots in tag names? 
For example,

part.title
part.number
chapter.title
chapter.number
body
body.first

and so on.

These tags are for chapters in a large book of several parts.  It is being 
written in unstructured Framemaker but eventually, after publication, much of 
the content will be converted to structured FM (DITA).  I am setting out to 
fix a template that has a lot of tags with spaces in them.  Already I have 
encountered some problems with spaces in tag names during trial conversions.  I 
want to avoid camel case tags if I can.

Is there any reason to avoid the dotted style?

Thanks,
Helen

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At 02:36 AM 30/11/2010, Jeremy H. Griffith and several others wrote helpful 
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Helen

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Dots in tag names

[Helen Borrie]

Is it legal to use dots in tag names? 
For example,

part.title
part.number
chapter.title
chapter.number
body
body.first

and so on.

These tags are for chapters in a large book of several parts.  It is being 
written in unstructured Framemaker but eventually, after publication, much of 
the content will be converted to structured FM (DITA).  I am setting out to 
"fix" a template that has a lot of tags with spaces in them.  Already I have 
encountered some problems with spaces in tag names during trial conversions.  I 
want to avoid "camel case" tags if I can.

Is there any reason to avoid the dotted style?

Thanks,
Helen

Re: Thought for the day

[Helen Borrie]

At 05:28 AM 26/05/2010, Flato, Gillian wrote:

Dew knot trussed yore spell chequer two fined awl yore mistakes.

Picked this up tonight from a forum where members had been complaining about 
the poor spelling in messages there:

I cdnuolt blveiee that I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd what I was rdanieg. The 
phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde 
Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in what oerdr the ltteres in a word are, the olny 
iproamtnt tihng is that the frsit and last ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The 
rset can be a taotl mses and you can still raed it whotuit a pboerlm. This is 
bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the word as a 
wlohe. Azanmig huh? Yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! 

;-) 
HB

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Thought for the day

[Helen Borrie]

At 05:28 AM 26/05/2010, Flato, Gillian wrote:

>Dew knot trussed yore spell chequer two fined awl yore mistakes.

Picked this up tonight from a forum where members had been complaining about 
the poor spelling in messages there:

I cdnuolt blveiee that I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd what I was rdanieg. The 
phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde 
Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in what oerdr the ltteres in a word are, the olny 
iproamtnt tihng is that the frsit and last ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The 
rset can be a taotl mses and you can still raed it whotuit a pboerlm. This is 
bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the word as a 
wlohe. Azanmig huh? Yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! 

;-) 
HB

FM 9 books

[Helen Borrie]

At 01:07 PM 11/02/2010, Syed.Hosain at aeris.net wrote:
>I like the Scriptorium book a lot too.
>
>My only regret is that [Scriptorium] decided not to publish the "Structured
>FrameMaker" version of it ... I hope that this happens sometime. I would
>gladly buy it!

Me too.  But I don't underestimate the work involved in designing the content 
for such a book.  I'm sure one of the problems would be that one would have to 
write two books in one.  On the one hand is the *present* mainstream (DocBook 
and other monolithic architectures), which are easier for unstructured diehards 
to grokk, but which can't provide a single content source solution.  On the 
other are the "coming things" that we (as writers and content developers) can't 
ignore:  DITA and maybe other granular architectures we haven't seen in public 
yet. 

I reckon it would need at least two authors and someone to keep bread on their 
table while they were doing it.  That, of course, means establishing that there 
would be a sufficiently worthwhile ROI associated with such a project.  

Helen

RE: FM 9 books

[Helen Borrie]

At 01:07 PM 11/02/2010, syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote:
I like the Scriptorium book a lot too.

My only regret is that [Scriptorium] decided not to publish the Structured
FrameMaker version of it ... I hope that this happens sometime. I would
gladly buy it!

Me too.  But I don't underestimate the work involved in designing the content 
for such a book.  I'm sure one of the problems would be that one would have to 
write two books in one.  On the one hand is the *present* mainstream (DocBook 
and other monolithic architectures), which are easier for unstructured diehards 
to grokk, but which can't provide a single content source solution.  On the 
other are the coming things that we (as writers and content developers) can't 
ignore:  DITA and maybe other granular architectures we haven't seen in public 
yet. 

I reckon it would need at least two authors and someone to keep bread on their 
table while they were doing it.  That, of course, means establishing that there 
would be a sufficiently worthwhile ROI associated with such a project.  

Helen
  

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Importing Multiple Page PDFs into a Word doc

[Helen Borrie]

At 10:17 AM 12/01/2010, jopakent wrote:
>I'm trying to crack an old nut again. I've got a Word doc into which I want
>to import many PDF documents. The issue is that most of these documents are
>multiple page PDFs.  When I import (as object, from file) one of the PDFs
>into the Word doc, only the first page displays. 
>
>In the past, I've created separate PDFs of each page of the multiple page
>PDF and imported them into the Word doc in sequence. I'm trying to see if
>there might be a better workflow for this.
>
>Jeremy, I cc'd you on this because I'm wondering if MIF2Go might be an
>option. I know it does wonders rendering RTFs of Frame files; I'm wondering
>if there is a way to use it to produce accurate RTFs from PDFs. I've got
>Acrobat 9 Standard and when I use it to create an RTF of one of these files,
>the result is not pretty. The result can be cleaned up, but it will just
>take to long per page to clean it up. It would be faster to just import each
>PDF page separately.
>
>Another benefit to importing RTF's is that my footers would stay accurate.
>(That is, I'll keep my page x of y and so forth).
>
>I know there are other PDF converters out there, maybe that's the route I
>should pursue.

I returned Acrobat 8 Pro to the reseller because Adobe refused to fix it when 
the licensing got broken by one of their infamous updates.  I got my money 
back, and reinvested a *portion* of it in a product called NitroPDF.  My bad 
Adobe experience turned out to be a blessing in disguise.  NitroPDF is just 
fantastic.  One of the fantastic things it does is convert PDFs to both RTF and 
Word, to documents that exactly replicate what you had in the PDF, *including* 
proper paragraphs.

The pagination, per se, is identical, but it *does not* back-engineer the 
pagination formula.  It places a single curly bracket in the position where the 
page number was.  I have only used it with PDFs that were originally created 
from DocBook sources using the standard Saxon transformation, of which I am a 
consumer, not a developer.  As Jeremy suggested, you might get a more 
source-sensitive reconstruction of the page-numbering algorithm if your PDFs 
were originally created from the same Word or RTF templates. 

The PDFs I've converted have been typically around 100-200 pages;  but you can 
convert page selections in batch according to taste as well;  and your Word 
output options allow selecting conversion levels from "highly editable" to 
purely layout based.

I do HIGHLY recommend NitroPDF (http://www.nitropdf.com) for any tricks you 
need to do with PDFs (besides reading and editing them, of course!)  There's a 
trial version you can download and use for a month (I think).  I didn't need a 
month, though, nor even a week or a day.  It took me about half an hour to 
test, convince myself I wasn't dreaming, decide, buy the licence and install 
permanently.  It took much more time and effort, plus additional system 
cleaning software purchases, to uninstall and eliminate Acrobat Pro 8, alas!  
Six months on I don't miss Acrobat Pro even slightly.  

Helen

Re: Importing Multiple Page PDFs into a Word doc

[Helen Borrie]

At 10:17 AM 12/01/2010, jopakent wrote:
I'm trying to crack an old nut again. I've got a Word doc into which I want
to import many PDF documents. The issue is that most of these documents are
multiple page PDFs.  When I import (as object, from file) one of the PDFs
into the Word doc, only the first page displays. 

In the past, I've created separate PDFs of each page of the multiple page
PDF and imported them into the Word doc in sequence. I'm trying to see if
there might be a better workflow for this.

Jeremy, I cc'd you on this because I'm wondering if MIF2Go might be an
option. I know it does wonders rendering RTFs of Frame files; I'm wondering
if there is a way to use it to produce accurate RTFs from PDFs. I've got
Acrobat 9 Standard and when I use it to create an RTF of one of these files,
the result is not pretty. The result can be cleaned up, but it will just
take to long per page to clean it up. It would be faster to just import each
PDF page separately.

Another benefit to importing RTF's is that my footers would stay accurate.
(That is, I'll keep my page x of y and so forth).

I know there are other PDF converters out there, maybe that's the route I
should pursue.

I returned Acrobat 8 Pro to the reseller because Adobe refused to fix it when 
the licensing got broken by one of their infamous updates.  I got my money 
back, and reinvested a *portion* of it in a product called NitroPDF.  My bad 
Adobe experience turned out to be a blessing in disguise.  NitroPDF is just 
fantastic.  One of the fantastic things it does is convert PDFs to both RTF and 
Word, to documents that exactly replicate what you had in the PDF, *including* 
proper paragraphs.

The pagination, per se, is identical, but it *does not* back-engineer the 
pagination formula.  It places a single curly bracket in the position where the 
page number was.  I have only used it with PDFs that were originally created 
from DocBook sources using the standard Saxon transformation, of which I am a 
consumer, not a developer.  As Jeremy suggested, you might get a more 
source-sensitive reconstruction of the page-numbering algorithm if your PDFs 
were originally created from the same Word or RTF templates. 

The PDFs I've converted have been typically around 100-200 pages;  but you can 
convert page selections in batch according to taste as well;  and your Word 
output options allow selecting conversion levels from highly editable to 
purely layout based.

I do HIGHLY recommend NitroPDF (http://www.nitropdf.com) for any tricks you 
need to do with PDFs (besides reading and editing them, of course!)  There's a 
trial version you can download and use for a month (I think).  I didn't need a 
month, though, nor even a week or a day.  It took me about half an hour to 
test, convince myself I wasn't dreaming, decide, buy the licence and install 
permanently.  It took much more time and effort, plus additional system 
cleaning software purchases, to uninstall and eliminate Acrobat Pro 8, alas!  
Six months on I don't miss Acrobat Pro even slightly.  

Helen

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OT: Frame 6 will not load

[Helen Borrie]

At 01:26 PM 4/01/2010, Ann Zdunczyk wrote:
>A friend has a new computer with Windows XP Pro and is trying to load Frame
>6. It opens the window that allows him to select Install FrameMaker:
>
>When he gets the first install screen, he picks English.  Then he gets the
>next screen, and he picks install.  Nothing happens.  But if he leaves it
>for about 15 minutes, it eventually pops up a screen saying it is
>installing, plus it pops up a setup progress bar. But then nothing happens,
>even if he leaves it.  Windows task manager says that "Setup" and
>LgoBitmapWin are Not Responding.
>
>Anyone have any ideas why Frame will not load.

I (re-)installed Frame 6 on a fresh XP installation  (with service packs up to 
and including SP3 slipstreamed) a few weeks ago and it just went through the 
installation normally, i.e., ponderously slow like all Adobe installs but no 
hang-ups or errors.  The version I have installed (with no updates from Adobe 
accepted so far) is 6.0p405.  Mine *is* the upgrade distribution, though.

On the other hand, if you Google for "LgoBitmapWin" you will find old forum 
messages that describe the same problem occurring on Win98 and Windows2000 
during installations of various old software packages involving the 16-bit 
version of Installshield, so maybe your installation disk is just too old for 
this day and age.  That said, one message did mention that simply ending the 
LgoBitmapWin process in Task Manager allowed the (temporarily hung) setup.exe 
to proceed.  It might work for you

Helen

Re: OT: Frame 6 will not load

[Helen Borrie]

At 01:26 PM 4/01/2010, Ann Zdunczyk wrote:
A friend has a new computer with Windows XP Pro and is trying to load Frame
6. It opens the window that allows him to select Install FrameMaker:

When he gets the first install screen, he picks English.  Then he gets the
next screen, and he picks install.  Nothing happens.  But if he leaves it
for about 15 minutes, it eventually pops up a screen saying it is
installing, plus it pops up a setup progress bar. But then nothing happens,
even if he leaves it.  Windows task manager says that Setup and
LgoBitmapWin are Not Responding.

Anyone have any ideas why Frame will not load.

I (re-)installed Frame 6 on a fresh XP installation  (with service packs up to 
and including SP3 slipstreamed) a few weeks ago and it just went through the 
installation normally, i.e., ponderously slow like all Adobe installs but no 
hang-ups or errors.  The version I have installed (with no updates from Adobe 
accepted so far) is 6.0p405.  Mine *is* the upgrade distribution, though.

On the other hand, if you Google for LgoBitmapWin you will find old forum 
messages that describe the same problem occurring on Win98 and Windows2000 
during installations of various old software packages involving the 16-bit 
version of Installshield, so maybe your installation disk is just too old for 
this day and age.  That said, one message did mention that simply ending the 
LgoBitmapWin process in Task Manager allowed the (temporarily hung) setup.exe 
to proceed.  It might work for you

Helen



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Mentioning open source softwares

[Helen Borrie]

At 12:41 AM 28/11/2009, mathieu jacquet wrote:

>Dear all,
>
>is there any "rule" about how to mention open source software in technical 
>documentation?

"Open source" means that the source code of the software is available to anyone 
under a licence. Its terms and restrictions apply to the usage of the *source 
code* of that software (compiling it into your own software products), not to 
the usage of binaries. 

If you have used an open source toolkit to develop the documentation then it is 
good manners to include a colophon acknowledging that usage and providing a URL 
to the main page of the project.  It is not a legal requirement.  

>The software I am currently documenting (MashUp Composer) requires from users 
>that they run a database creation script. To do so, they need to launch a DB 
>administration tool such as MySQL Administrator and MySQL Qury Browser to set 
>user privileges, create the required DB schema, run the script, etc. 
>
>How would you recommend to present things? 

As above.  However, since MySQL is now owned by one of the proprietary software 
"heavies", you should read the licences of those applications to find out 
whether Oracle has any legal requirement regarding the use of the *trademark* 
in documentary references.

>Can I say, for example: Launch your favorite DB administration tool (for 
>example MySQL Administrator).
>
>Am I supposed to add copyright mentions for open source software?

Don't confuse copyright (which affects the re-use of *written* content and is 
statutory and governed by international treaties) with trademark usage rules, 
nor with licence requirements (which are unilateral rules stated by the vendor 
of the software, to which you agree when installing or compiling that 
software).  

-- If you are re-quoting written content from MySQL manuals in your works then 
you must, under copyright law, acknowledge the source, just as you must do with 
regard to any other publication from which you lift content.  Whether you do 
this using footnotes or a References section (or a combination of both) is up 
to you.

-- If you are quoting the name of a product in your documentation then you 
*might* be required to tag the name with the "registered trademark" symbol (the 
letter R in a circle, usually superscribed) or the "trademark applied for" 
symbol (the letters TM in upper case, usually superscribed).  If nothing is 
mentioned to this effect in your licence agreement then don't include them.  

Helen  

Re: Mentioning open source softwares

[Helen Borrie]

At 12:41 AM 28/11/2009, mathieu jacquet wrote:

Dear all,

is there any rule about how to mention open source software in technical 
documentation?

Open source means that the source code of the software is available to anyone 
under a licence. Its terms and restrictions apply to the usage of the *source 
code* of that software (compiling it into your own software products), not to 
the usage of binaries. 

If you have used an open source toolkit to develop the documentation then it is 
good manners to include a colophon acknowledging that usage and providing a URL 
to the main page of the project.  It is not a legal requirement.  

The software I am currently documenting (MashUp Composer) requires from users 
that they run a database creation script. To do so, they need to launch a DB 
administration tool such as MySQL Administrator and MySQL Qury Browser to set 
user privileges, create the required DB schema, run the script, etc. 

How would you recommend to present things? 

As above.  However, since MySQL is now owned by one of the proprietary software 
heavies, you should read the licences of those applications to find out 
whether Oracle has any legal requirement regarding the use of the *trademark* 
in documentary references.

Can I say, for example: Launch your favorite DB administration tool (for 
example MySQL Administrator).

Am I supposed to add copyright mentions for open source software?

Don't confuse copyright (which affects the re-use of *written* content and is 
statutory and governed by international treaties) with trademark usage rules, 
nor with licence requirements (which are unilateral rules stated by the vendor 
of the software, to which you agree when installing or compiling that 
software).  

-- If you are re-quoting written content from MySQL manuals in your works then 
you must, under copyright law, acknowledge the source, just as you must do with 
regard to any other publication from which you lift content.  Whether you do 
this using footnotes or a References section (or a combination of both) is up 
to you.

-- If you are quoting the name of a product in your documentation then you 
*might* be required to tag the name with the registered trademark symbol (the 
letter R in a circle, usually superscribed) or the trademark applied for 
symbol (the letters TM in upper case, usually superscribed).  If nothing is 
mentioned to this effect in your licence agreement then don't include them.  

Helen  

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Converting PDF to Word

[Helen Borrie]

At 01:53 PM 7/07/2009, Syed.Hosain at aeris.net wrote:
>I use PDF Convertor Pro for PDF->Word conversions ... works reasonably
>well, but still needs a lot of cleaning up after the work is done.

NitroPDF Professional does a perfect conversion - at least to {blush} Word 7, 
which is the youngest version of Word I have or ever will have.  I guess this 
answer is a bit off-topic in the Framemaker users' list. ;-) 

HB

RE: Converting PDF to Word

[Helen Borrie]

At 01:53 PM 7/07/2009, syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote:
I use PDF Convertor Pro for PDF-Word conversions ... works reasonably
well, but still needs a lot of cleaning up after the work is done.

NitroPDF Professional does a perfect conversion - at least to {blush} Word 7, 
which is the youngest version of Word I have or ever will have.  I guess this 
answer is a bit off-topic in the Framemaker users' list. ;-) 

HB

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New Topic 2: PDF will not open at beginning

[Helen Borrie]

At 02:23 AM 18/06/2009, Susan Curtzwiler wrote:
>Hi All, 
>   
> Using FM 7.0, Acrobat Distiller 5.0, Vista Enterprise on Compaq laptop. 
>-
> 
>In the pdf setup, I have marked the file to open on pg 1.   However, the file 
>is now opening at the end of the book. 
> 
>Can I make the file open on the Title Page, which has no page number?  
> 
>The title page is in the book window as a separate file -- would it help if I 
>attached the title page to the front matter? 
> 
>What settings do I need ? 
> 

According to the help doc for Fm 8 (and I guess FM 7 is the same):
1. In the PDF Setup dialog box, choose Settings from the pop-up menu, or click 
the Settings tab (Windows/UNIX).

2. Choose an option from the PDF Job Options pop-up menu for creating Adobe PDF 
files. The options include predefined settings plus any custom job options you 
created in Adobe PDF Creation Add-On (Windows), or Normalizer 8 (UNIX). For 
descriptions of the predefined settings, see Job options.
++
In a book, the job options saved with the first file are applied to all files 
in the book. To get the results you want in the exported PDF file, open the 
first file, choose Format > Document > PDF Setup, adjust the settings, and then 
click Set. 
++
3. Type an opening page number and choose a zoom level.

So (assuming FM 7 is the same, of course!) to make this happen naturally, you 
should either make your title page the first file in the book and set the job 
options in that file;  or shift its content into the beginning of the front 
matter and set the job options in that file.

Helen

New Topic 2: PDF will not open at beginning

[Helen Borrie]

At 10:21 AM 18/06/2009, Art Campbell wrote:
>[]
>If you can't find it and you need a quick fix, you may want to
>download the eval version of Acrobat and make the adjustment on a
>different system so you don't mess up your current install.

I found that Acrobat Pro won't save any document edits in trial mode. 

I used to think Acrobat Pro was great - I've had four versions in the past, up 
to and including AP 6.  But Adobe's unpublished upgrade policy has changed all 
that for me. I was having activation problems with Acrobat Pro 8 Upgrade, 
caused by their very first AP 6 update via Flexnet, that support says won't be 
fixed as it's no longer a supported product (all AP8 upgrade keys were 
invalidated on March 1st, apparently!).  I sent the box back to the reseller 
for a refund and set about assessing alternatives.  

Luckily, I found NitroPDF (www.nitropdf.com). Now, for $99, I get everything 
Acro Pro can do and more, everything "just works", and its distiller is 
blazingly fast. *And* there's no FlexNet under the hood, deactivating your 
activated products when it plonks an update into your previously working 
installation.  In short, Nitro makes Acro Pro look very, very ordinary. 

To post-fix Susan's PDFs in Nitro, you can just add a bookmark to your initial 
page, name it 'titlepage' (or anything you like) and then hit Ctrl-D, set the 
initial page in the document properties and Save As...  You can also set other 
initial properties like the zoom level, pages per view and so on.  It even 
supports some properties that only apply to Acrobat Reader, that might or might 
not be important for PDFs generated by Adobe's Distiller.

Still, if the document is going to be maintained, then hacking the PDF isn't a 
very nice solution.  Better to have Frame pass the proper arguments to 
Distiller in the first place.

Helen

Re: New Topic 2: PDF will not open at beginning

[Helen Borrie]

At 02:23 AM 18/06/2009, Susan Curtzwiler wrote:
Hi All, 
   
 Using FM 7.0, Acrobat Distiller 5.0, Vista Enterprise on Compaq laptop. 
-
 
In the pdf setup, I have marked the file to open on pg 1.   However, the file 
is now opening at the end of the book. 
 
Can I make the file open on the Title Page, which has no page number?  
 
The title page is in the book window as a separate file -- would it help if I 
attached the title page to the front matter? 
 
What settings do I need ? 
 

According to the help doc for Fm 8 (and I guess FM 7 is the same):
1. In the PDF Setup dialog box, choose Settings from the pop-up menu, or click 
the Settings tab (Windows/UNIX).

2. Choose an option from the PDF Job Options pop-up menu for creating Adobe PDF 
files. The options include predefined settings plus any custom job options you 
created in Adobe PDF Creation Add-On (Windows), or Normalizer 8 (UNIX). For 
descriptions of the predefined settings, see Job options.
++
In a book, the job options saved with the first file are applied to all files 
in the book. To get the results you want in the exported PDF file, open the 
first file, choose Format  Document  PDF Setup, adjust the settings, and then 
click Set. 
++
3. Type an opening page number and choose a zoom level.

So (assuming FM 7 is the same, of course!) to make this happen naturally, you 
should either make your title page the first file in the book and set the job 
options in that file;  or shift its content into the beginning of the front 
matter and set the job options in that file.

Helen


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Re: New Topic 2: PDF will not open at beginning

[Helen Borrie]

At 10:21 AM 18/06/2009, Art Campbell wrote:
[]
If you can't find it and you need a quick fix, you may want to
download the eval version of Acrobat and make the adjustment on a
different system so you don't mess up your current install.

I found that Acrobat Pro won't save any document edits in trial mode. 

I used to think Acrobat Pro was great - I've had four versions in the past, up 
to and including AP 6.  But Adobe's unpublished upgrade policy has changed all 
that for me. I was having activation problems with Acrobat Pro 8 Upgrade, 
caused by their very first AP 6 update via Flexnet, that support says won't be 
fixed as it's no longer a supported product (all AP8 upgrade keys were 
invalidated on March 1st, apparently!).  I sent the box back to the reseller 
for a refund and set about assessing alternatives.  

Luckily, I found NitroPDF (www.nitropdf.com). Now, for $99, I get everything 
Acro Pro can do and more, everything just works, and its distiller is 
blazingly fast. *And* there's no FlexNet under the hood, deactivating your 
activated products when it plonks an update into your previously working 
installation.  In short, Nitro makes Acro Pro look very, very ordinary. 

To post-fix Susan's PDFs in Nitro, you can just add a bookmark to your initial 
page, name it 'titlepage' (or anything you like) and then hit Ctrl-D, set the 
initial page in the document properties and Save As...  You can also set other 
initial properties like the zoom level, pages per view and so on.  It even 
supports some properties that only apply to Acrobat Reader, that might or might 
not be important for PDFs generated by Adobe's Distiller.

Still, if the document is going to be maintained, then hacking the PDF isn't a 
very nice solution.  Better to have Frame pass the proper arguments to 
Distiller in the first place.

Helen

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