RE: Indexing Multiple Books?
Art, this is great information. I have a question. Where do I set the book title prefix for the index entries? In the index marker itself inside the books, or would I set it on the reference page so when the index is generated, we end up with book_name - page# (Admin - 35). Thanks, -Patrick -Original Message- From: Art Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 11:52 AM To: Patrick Nolan Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Indexing Multiple Books? Yes and no. Each book file is just a container for the chapters; it doesn't actually change them. ;- ) You want to be sure to mimic the chapter-page numbering style of the source book in the meta-book. Chapter 1 in Admin can still carry the label Chapter 1and the following chapters will still take their incremental numbering increase from it. And the page numbering setup should stay the same. Only difference is you restart book-level numbering with Chapter 1 from the Installation Guide and so on throughout the metabook This also makes it easier to set the book label prefix -- unless you're already using it, you can pick up the Volume numbering $volnum variable and set it to text using the string you decide to use for each book's prefix. Just as a BTW, the chapter numbering in the original books will still be valid when you operate from the original book file. You're not changing anything in THAT book; you're setting all the new properties in an entirely separate book file that just happens to contain the same chapters. The chapter files don't know about a particlar book's settings if you work on them outside that book. Art On 8/1/06, Patrick Nolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Art, What I don't understand is, if I create a new book and add all the indexable chapters, wont these chapters lose their pagination? I.e., wouldn't they get a new pagination from the new book? -Patrick -Original Message- From: Art Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 11:33 AM To: Patrick Nolan Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Indexing Multiple Books? I think it's in the manual somewhere, but all you need to do is create a meta-book that contains all the indexable chapters from your doc set member books. Nesting books isn't supported. Only extra step is when you generate the index, you'll probably need to include a prefix to ID the book before the page citation -- Admin 301, Install 3-14, etc. The metabook is also useful for updating / synching all formats and applying any other changes you want to ripple into multiple books. Art snip In other words, they are asking for a master, multi-volume index for all the books. -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Indexing Multiple Books?
Art, this is great information. I have a question. Where do I set the book title prefix for the index entries? In the index marker itself inside the books, or would I set it on the reference page so when the index is generated, we end up with (Admin - 35). Thanks, -Patrick -Original Message- From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 11:52 AM To: Patrick Nolan Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Indexing Multiple Books? Yes and no. Each book file is just a container for the chapters; it doesn't actually change them. ;- ) You want to be sure to mimic the chapter-page numbering style of the source book in the meta-book. Chapter 1 in Admin can still carry the label Chapter 1and the following chapters will still take their incremental numbering increase from it. And the page numbering setup should stay the same. Only difference is you restart book-level numbering with Chapter 1 from the Installation Guide and so on throughout the metabook This also makes it easier to set the book label prefix -- unless you're already using it, you can pick up the Volume numbering <$volnum> variable and set it to text using the string you decide to use for each book's prefix. Just as a BTW, the chapter numbering in the original books will still be valid when you operate from the original book file. You're not changing anything in THAT book; you're setting all the new properties in an entirely separate book file that just happens to contain the same chapters. The chapter files don't know about a particlar book's settings if you work on them outside that book. Art On 8/1/06, Patrick Nolan wrote: > Art, > > What I don't understand is, if I create a new book and add all the > indexable chapters, wont these chapters lose their pagination? I.e., > wouldn't they get a new pagination from the new book? > > -Patrick > > -Original Message- > From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campbell at gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 11:33 AM > To: Patrick Nolan > Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: Indexing Multiple Books? > > I think it's in the manual somewhere, but all you need to do is create > a meta-book that contains all the indexable chapters from your doc set > member books. Nesting books isn't supported. Only extra step is when > you generate the index, you'll probably need to include a prefix to ID > the book before the page citation -- Admin 301, Install 3-14, etc. > > The metabook is also useful for updating / synching all formats and > applying any other changes you want to ripple into multiple books. > > Art > > > > In other words, they are asking for a master, multi-volume index for > > all the books. > -- Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358
Indexing Multiple Books?
Frame Group, I'm using Frame 7.0.1 on Windows XP Pro. We have the problem with the usability of our documentation in that we have multiple books in our library, but our users (internal and external) have been asking for a way to find information across all books. In other words, they are asking for a master, multi-volume index for all the books. Has anyone ever done this? Would I make multiple books inside one big book and generate an index? We're talking a few thousand pages here. Am interested in how/if this could be done. Thanks, -Patrick Nolan Senior Technical Writer Opsware, Inc. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Indexing Multiple Books?
Art, What I don't understand is, if I create a new book and add all the indexable chapters, wont these chapters lose their pagination? I.e., wouldn't they get a new pagination from the new book? -Patrick -Original Message- From: Art Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 11:33 AM To: Patrick Nolan Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Indexing Multiple Books? I think it's in the manual somewhere, but all you need to do is create a meta-book that contains all the indexable chapters from your doc set member books. Nesting books isn't supported. Only extra step is when you generate the index, you'll probably need to include a prefix to ID the book before the page citation -- Admin 301, Install 3-14, etc. The metabook is also useful for updating / synching all formats and applying any other changes you want to ripple into multiple books. Art snip In other words, they are asking for a master, multi-volume index for all the books. snip -Patrick Nolan Senior Technical Writer Opsware, Inc. -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Indexing Multiple Books?
Frame Group, I'm using Frame 7.0.1 on Windows XP Pro. We have the problem with the usability of our documentation in that we have multiple books in our library, but our users (internal and external) have been asking for a way to find information across all books. In other words, they are asking for a master, multi-volume index for all the books. Has anyone ever done this? Would I make multiple books inside one big book and generate an index? We're talking a few thousand pages here. Am interested in how/if this could be done. Thanks, -Patrick Nolan Senior Technical Writer Opsware, Inc.
Indexing Multiple Books?
Art, What I don't understand is, if I create a new book and add all the indexable chapters, wont these chapters lose their pagination? I.e., wouldn't they get a new pagination from the new book? -Patrick -Original Message- From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 11:33 AM To: Patrick Nolan Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Indexing Multiple Books? I think it's in the manual somewhere, but all you need to do is create a meta-book that contains all the indexable chapters from your doc set member books. Nesting books isn't supported. Only extra step is when you generate the index, you'll probably need to include a prefix to ID the book before the page citation -- Admin 301, Install 3-14, etc. The metabook is also useful for updating / synching all formats and applying any other changes you want to ripple into multiple books. Art > In other words, they are asking for a master, multi-volume index for > all the books. > -Patrick Nolan > Senior Technical Writer > Opsware, Inc. -- Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358
