RE: FrameMaker and read-only files
Gordon -- Are you saying the setting for Network File Locking in FilePreferencesGeneral doesn't work in this situation? jan. jan e patterson sr technical writer - environmental systems products - tucson, az -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gordon McLean Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 8:55 AM To: framers@frameusers.com Subject: FrameMaker and read-only files Hello all, We are using Tortoise SVN to version control our FM files. It's mainly working fine but we are having problems getting FrameMaker to detect a locked file. You can set files to be locked when you edit them, but FrameMaker doesn't seem to pay any attention to the lock UNTIL you try and save the file. So you could open a locked file, work on it for an hour or two and only be notified when you try and save it. Not ideal. What we think is happening is that the file being locked is set to 'read-only', but FrameMaker isn't detecting that, as it has an internal locking mechanism which looking for files that are currently being edited by others. So it seems to be ignoring the read-only files. My question is: Is there anyway to get FrameMaker to flag, ON OPEN, whether a file is read-only or not. Or is this not a FrameMaker issue at all but a 'nuance' of Tortoise? Any and all suggestions gratefully welcomed. This isn't a showstopper but very much in the 'annoyance' category! Thanks in advance, Gordon McLean Technical Author Graham Technology This email (and any attachments) is private and confidential, and is intended solely for the addressee. If you have received this communication in error please remove it and inform us via telephone or email. Although we take all possible steps to ensure mail and attachments are free from malicious content, malware and viruses, we cannot accept any responsibility whatsoever for any changes to content outwith our administrative bounds. The views represented within this mail are solely the view of the author and do not reflect the views of the organisation as a whole. Graham Technology plc Registered in Scotland company no. SC143434 Registered Office India of Inchinnan, Renfrewshire, Scotland PA4 9LH http://www.grahamtechnology.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jan.patterson%40esph .com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FrameMaker and read-only files
Gordon -- Are you saying the setting for Network File Locking in File>Preferences>General doesn't work in this situation? jan. jan e patterson sr technical writer - environmental systems products - tucson, az -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+jan.patterson=esph@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+jan.patterson=esph.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Gordon McLean Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 8:55 AM To: framers at frameusers.com Subject: FrameMaker and read-only files Hello all, We are using Tortoise SVN to version control our FM files. It's mainly working fine but we are having problems getting FrameMaker to detect a locked file. You can set files to be locked when you edit them, but FrameMaker doesn't seem to pay any attention to the lock UNTIL you try and save the file. So you could open a locked file, work on it for an hour or two and only be notified when you try and save it. Not ideal. What we think is happening is that the file being locked is set to 'read-only', but FrameMaker isn't detecting that, as it has an internal locking mechanism which looking for files that are currently being edited by others. So it seems to be ignoring the read-only files. My question is: Is there anyway to get FrameMaker to flag, ON OPEN, whether a file is read-only or not. Or is this not a FrameMaker issue at all but a 'nuance' of Tortoise? Any and all suggestions gratefully welcomed. This isn't a showstopper but very much in the 'annoyance' category! Thanks in advance, Gordon McLean Technical Author Graham Technology This email (and any attachments) is private and confidential, and is intended solely for the addressee. If you have received this communication in error please remove it and inform us via telephone or email. Although we take all possible steps to ensure mail and attachments are free from malicious content, malware and viruses, we cannot accept any responsibility whatsoever for any changes to content outwith our administrative bounds. The views represented within this mail are solely the view of the author and do not reflect the views of the organisation as a whole. Graham Technology plc Registered in Scotland company no. SC143434 Registered Office India of Inchinnan, Renfrewshire, Scotland PA4 9LH http://www.grahamtechnology.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as jan.patterson at esph.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jan.patterson%40esph .com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Creating x-refs to files using a relative path
Janice, we used a similar file organization at my former employer, which was a couple of years and versions ago, and we had extensive cross-references throughout our library of manuals. If I remember right, to make the cross-references active in the PDFs, all of the FrameMaker books had to be open at the time the PDFs were created. Maybe somebody else can confirm this. jan. jan e patterson sr technical writer - environmental systems products - tucson, az -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Janice Cadel; Beth Hamilton Subject: Creating x-refs to files using a relative path We use Windows XP operating system, Frame 7.2 (some of us may still be on 7.0), and Acrobat 7.0. We organize our folders to have a main folder for the manual. That folder contains 2 sub-folders (fm_source and docs). fm_source contains all the Framemaker files that make up the book. In addition to the book and generated files, each Framemaker file is a chapter in the book. We have set up x-refs so that it is not a problem cross-referencing from one chapter to another within the book. My question, is, how do we set up cross-references so that we can cross-reference to a file (in our case, a chapter) in another book (which is embedded within a different folder and sub-folder). When we tried to do this using the same method for setting up x-refs within the book, it worked in FrameMaker, but it did not work once we created our PDFs. For example, we created a x-ref from Chapter 1 in Book A to Chapter 2 in Book B. We created a PDF of Book A and a PDF of Book B. When we click the link in Book A, it says it cannot find the file, and it gives the whole path of where it is looking for Book B. Do you know what we are doing wrong? Or, how we should be doing this? Thank you, Janice Cadel --- Janice Cadel Principal Technical Writer/Editor Hughes Network Systems, LLC 11717 Exploration Lane Germantown, MD 20876 301-601-7434 fax: 301-428-2801 --- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Formula for Tech Writing Lead Time?
How many pages can a technical writer produce in x amount of time? It depends. If you've been with your current employer for a while and you've already completed several projects (manuals), then you could gather metrics from what you've already produced to create an average hours-per-page formula. jan. jan e patterson sr technical writer - environmental systems products - tucson, AZ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Courtney Collins Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 9:04 AM To: Framers List Subject: Formula for Tech Writing Lead Time? Is anyone aware of a formula for how many words/pages a Tech Writer can produce in a given period of time? I am being asked to take on additional manuals and upper management wants some numbers to justify additional head count that will be needed. I can probably come up with an estimate based on what we produce today, but I was wondering if some kind of standard already exists. Thank you Courtney Collins Tech Pubs Supervisor Patient Monitoring Division Datascope Corp. 201.995.8353 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jan.patterson%40esph .com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Formula for Tech Writing Lead Time?
How many pages can a technical writer produce in x amount of time? It depends. If you've been with your current employer for a while and you've already completed several projects (manuals), then you could gather metrics from what you've already produced to create an average hours-per-page formula. jan. jan e patterson sr technical writer - environmental systems products - tucson, AZ -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+jan.patterson=esph@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+jan.patterson=esph.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Courtney Collins Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 9:04 AM To: Framers List Subject: Formula for Tech Writing Lead Time? Is anyone aware of a formula for how many words/pages a Tech Writer can produce in a given period of time? I am being asked to take on additional manuals and upper management wants some numbers to justify additional head count that will be needed. I can probably come up with an estimate based on what we produce today, but I was wondering if some kind of standard already exists. Thank you Courtney Collins Tech Pubs Supervisor Patient Monitoring Division Datascope Corp. 201.995.8353 courtney_collins at datascope.com - Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as jan.patterson at esph.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jan.patterson%40esph .com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Syntax for if/then statement
The Chicago Manual of Style, 15th Edition, section 5.182, says: Correlative conjunctions are used in pairs, often to join successive clauses that depend on each other to form a complete thought . . . {If the first claim is true, then the second claim must be false} . . . Some examples of correlative conjunctions are as-as, if-then, either-or, neither-nor . . . jan e patterson environmental systems products - sr technical writer tucson, az 85745 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 10:22 AM To: framers@frameusers.com Subject: OT: Syntax for if/then statement All, I am hoping the fellow writers on this list can provide some information for this request. Another writer here at Jeppesen and I have always used the following syntax for a conditional/causal statement: If blah, blah, then blah, blah. We have a new editor that just joined who is in the process of defining our styles and standards. Obviously, everyone has an opinion about what is right and what is wrong in editing . . .in many cases, it's so subjective. That said, when we have our editorial meetings about defining our styles and standards, you need to be prepared with some factual support for a certain type of style or standard - not just the emotional because we've always done it this way. Years ago, I had such a reference for writing if/then statements this way - I don't remember which manual I referenced. Our new editor wants to add the word and to such statements - if blah, blah, AND then blah, blah. Both I and the other writer disagree with the editor on this one - it should be just if/then - no and. I have tried for the life of me to find a documentation reference that would support this syntax (something like Sun's Read Me First guide, etc), and although I know I had one in the past, I can't find it now. Googling only leads me to programming references - the thin thread here would be since we are writing software documentation, if/then, would make sense, since that's where the if/then statement syntax was developed, but. . . . Any and all references/advice would be much appreciated. TIA, TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jan.patterson%40esph .com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Syntax for if/then statement
The Chicago Manual of Style, 15th Edition, section 5.182, says: "Correlative conjunctions are used in pairs, often to join successive clauses that depend on each other to form a complete thought . . . {If the first claim is true, then the second claim must be false} . . . Some examples of correlative conjunctions are as-as, if-then, either-or, neither-nor . . ." jan e patterson environmental systems products - sr technical writer tucson, az 85745 -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+jan.patterson=esph@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+jan.patterson=esph.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 10:22 AM To: framers at frameusers.com Subject: OT: Syntax for if/then statement All, I am hoping the fellow writers on this list can provide some information for this request. Another writer here at Jeppesen and I have always used the following syntax for a conditional/causal statement: If, then . We have a new editor that just joined who is in the process of defining our styles and standards. Obviously, everyone has an opinion about what is "right" and what is "wrong" in editing . . .in many cases, it's so subjective. That said, when we have our editorial meetings about defining our styles and standards, you need to be prepared with some factual support for a certain type of style or standard - not just the emotional "because we've always done it this way." Years ago, I had such a reference for writing if/then statements this way - I don't remember which manual I referenced. Our new editor wants to add the word "and" to such statements - if , AND then . Both I and the other writer disagree with the editor on this one - it should be just if/then - no "and." I have tried for the life of me to find a documentation reference that would support this syntax (something like Sun's Read Me First guide, etc), and although I know I had one in the past, I can't find it now. Googling only leads me to programming references - the thin thread here would be since we are writing software documentation, if/then, would make sense, since that's where the if/then statement syntax was developed, but. . . . Any and all references/advice would be much appreciated. TIA, TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as jan.patterson at esph.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jan.patterson%40esph .com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.