Re: [Framers] Have not seen any emails in this list since ...
I can confirm that Frame 10 works just fine under Windows 11. I mainly use Frame 17, but I still have some clients who require Frame 10. I use Frame since version 3 and this list has always been a wonderful source of information and a life saver. Richard -Message d'origine- De : Framers De la part de Harding, Dan Envoyé : 24 janvier 2023 09:50 À : An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Objet : Re: [Framers] Have not seen any emails in this list since ... Per discussions on this list from September and October of 2021, Frame works fine under Windows 11. Am still running it under Windows 10 here, so no firsthand experiences with Frame and Win11. -Dan -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Mike Wickham Sent: Monday, January 23, 2023 12:26 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [Framers] Have not seen any emails in this list since ... Are you saying that FrameMaker 10 will not work with Windows 11? Mike On 1/12/2023 3:14 PM, Fei Min Lorente wrote: > ...but with the move to Windows 11, we have to convert those, too. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.com%2Fv3%2F__http%3A%2F%2Fwww.frameusers.com__%3B!!DZ3fjg!4qWaRCgu6Z_yAeg3QdFJB2SQ_ZP5OqZtoO9_s0J_DLWraz8tTht2b3yWqKQ-QQQqBfOivaAKM_XmR7X_pdw%24&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cbb63db3b1c53492b244508dafe1a6cc7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638101686700169952%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=aGVHmONll9oSCHgaO0G8Zwigcc6w%2B5rtk%2BJRdmo9f%2BU%3D&reserved=0 Archives located at https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.com%2Fv3%2F__http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fframers*40lists.frameusers.com%2F__%3BJQ!!DZ3fjg!4qWaRCgu6Z_yAeg3QdFJB2SQ_ZP5OqZtoO9_s0J_DLWraz8tTht2b3yWqKQ-QQQqBfOivaAKM_XmfF-Wonc%24&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cbb63db3b1c53492b244508dafe1a6cc7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638101686700169952%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=kLCMzIEOo%2FH9B%2F32d72DmGCXq15uAcuM1BYD3PW7vzI%3D&reserved=0 Subscribe and unsubscribe at https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.com%2Fv3%2F__http%3A%2F%2Flists.frameusers.com%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Fframers-frameusers.com__%3B!!DZ3fjg!4qWaRCgu6Z_yAeg3QdFJB2SQ_ZP5OqZtoO9_s0J_DLWraz8tTht2b3yWqKQ-QQQqBfOivaAKM_XmQOx63WA%24&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cbb63db3b1c53492b244508dafe1a6cc7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638101686700169952%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=rBXExR5EutWJdW6hq3taVPTZFeZhMr5ub%2B5vhw1XtdU%3D&reserved=0 Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.frameusers.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cbb63db3b1c53492b244508dafe1a6cc7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638101686700169952%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=ZLWdmDxv%2B1hdMokKyZgScnrx%2B%2FTH%2FD4O%2Boc112%2FEop4%3D&reserved=0 Archives located at https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fframers%2540lists.frameusers.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cbb63db3b1c53492b244508dafe1a6cc7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638101686700169952%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=jJ7Dll6ZphhsTL9DOYekFy7SVtX%2BH6uBvSieDSpqWWc%3D&reserved=0 Subscribe and unsubscribe at https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.frameusers.com%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Fframers-frameusers.com&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cbb63db3b1c53492b244508dafe1a6cc7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638101686700326180%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=LBU61EXFh298kj9hcYkCzR%2FpJcU73k234Q8e9Q7Ldhw%3D&reserved=0 Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Frame "Counter" Issue
Hi Alison, You have one counter using two formats. You must use two counters, one for each format as follows: "Instruction1": < >.\t "Instruction+": < >.\t "Instruction Alpha-a": < >)\t "Instruction Alpha-+": < >)\t There are other ways to do this. This is only one way. Richard Pesant | Technical Writing | Rédaction technique 9153-6789 Québec inc. 514-691-3077 rpes...@outlook.com -Message d'origine- De : Framers De la part de Craig, Alison GLI/CA Envoyé : 5 mai 2022 13:46 À : framers@lists.frameusers.com Objet : [Framers] Frame "Counter" Issue Windows 10 Up-to-date Frame subscription I've had to add in a layer of alpha-based "sub-instructions" in my manual formatting-but Frame is not cooperating. Normally I use plain bullets, but these new items must be completed in a specific order, hence the alpha numbering (per the manual conventions). Numeric instruction counter: starting at "1." and incrementing === "Instruction1": .\t "Instruction+": .\t Alpha sub-instruction counter: starting at "a)" and incrementing "Instruction Alpha-a": )\t "Instruction Alpha-+": )\t The numeric counters work fine by themselves and the alpha counters work fine. However, if I follow the final alpha counter with another numeric counter, instead of using the next number (ie, picking up from the last numeric counter), Frame calculates the numeric counter by translating the final alpha counter into a number and increments that (see step 5 (which should be step 3) of "How it's currently working"). Weirdly, it follows the wrong counter but uses the correct formatting. I'm sure I'm missing something simple, but I have idea what it is. I don't use this often, but it's crucial in a few places in a particular manual (which was originally written in Word where it works just fine). Alison How it should work: 1. first numeric instruction 2. second numeric instruction a) first alpha sub-instruction b) second alpha sub-instruction c) third alpha sub-instruction d) fourth alpha sub-instruction 3. third numeric instruction 4. fourth numeric instruction 5. fifth numeric instruction How it's currently working: == 1. first numeric instruction 2. second numeric instruction a) first alpha sub-instruction b) second alpha sub-instruction c) third alpha sub-instruction d) fourth alpha sub-instruction 5. third numeric instruction 6. fourth numeric instruction 7. fifth numeric instruction Alison Craig Technical Writer, Engineering, Greenlight Innovation ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.frameusers.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7C472195da13bc4a566f8e08da2ebf195b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637873695554989411%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=wKaXZQdpgkvbthj%2FZbN1bEI5MKRnKExNmkc0nTuOLQQ%3D&reserved=0 Archives located at https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fframers%2540lists.frameusers.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7C472195da13bc4a566f8e08da2ebf195b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637873695554989411%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=5je%2F8N%2FXYwVh5KoxsBbNTRdvB9Ymmhyai%2B9%2FsUXNy1A%3D&reserved=0 Subscribe and unsubscribe at https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.frameusers.com%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Fframers-frameusers.com&data=05%7C01%7C%7C472195da13bc4a566f8e08da2ebf195b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637873695554989411%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=BpykndaUxqoxPxNNHb7rH5%2BoBxSQIAjjxlJqsWOoLXI%3D&reserved=0 Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] "Secret" Freeze Pagination Feature
Hi Stefan,
I used this feature intensively back in the 90s, with FM 5.6/6 if I recall
correctly. Back then, I was working for Nortel Networks producing 9000+ pages
libraries. As we were developing a new release, we were also supporting up to
four previous releases (for corrections and bug fixes). Using the Freeze
pagination feature allowed us to provide our customers with only the changed
pages. There were some bugs (mainly with tables spanning over one page) and, if
I remember, these bugs could not be fixed. We had to break each table by page
before freezing pagination but all in all, it worked fine. I was not aware that
the feature was still available. I think that keeping it available with some
mention and explanation of the table bug would not hurt.
Regards,
Richard Pesant
-Message d'origine-
De : Stefan Gentz [mailto:ge...@adobe.com]
Envoyé : 25 avril 2017 05:20
À : framers@lists.frameusers.com
Objet : [Framers] "Secret" Freeze Pagination Feature
Hi Framers,
Klaus Daube reminded me a few days ago, that there are some "secret" features
in FrameMaker, that are still present in the product today, but are no longer
in the UI nor documented, especially "Freeze pagination" and "Open Heroic". I'm
currently going through them and discuss them with the product managers and
documentation team.
So, one of these "secret features" is "Freeze pagination": It's still present
in FM 2017 and can be accessed with Esc-p-z.
For those who do not know the feature: Let's say you have a 100-page document
with one text flow. On the master page you have a footer with a page count
variable (<$curpagenum>). Now you can "freeze pagination" which will disconnect
all text frames (that is, you get 100 disconnected pages with a Text Flow "A").
Now you can add new disconnected pages between other pages (called "point
pages"). Or if you are at the end of a page and add new content, a new page is
added right next to the current page with a connect text frame to the previous
page. The page number will show a "point page number" (e.g. when you add pages
after page 7, they will be numbered as 7.1, 7.2 etc.).
The idea of this feature back in the days was to create "revision pages"
("point pages").
That said, I understand how the feature works, but in more than 20 years I have
never used it myself (never had a use case for it) nor met anyone ever using it
and all people I have asked in the last days who know this feature told me the
same (never had a use case).
My question to you:
- Has anyone ever used this feature when it was still present in the UI many
versions back?
- Is anyone still using it?
- What is the use case scenario that you can think of where it still might be
useful?
Your feedback will help us to have a new look at this feature and discuss what
to do with it (bring it back to the UI and document it or keep it hidden or
maybe even remove it).
Looking forward to your feedback,
Stefan Gentz
Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist
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how to prevent empty pages in a book? (part xxviii)
Another thing to check is the first paragraph format for the pagination start setting (Paragraph Designer->Pagination tab). It should not be set to start at top of a specific page. Richard Pesant richard.pesant at shimadzu.ca -Message d'origine- De?: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] De la part de Bill Swallow Envoy??: 16 d?cembre 2009 09:54 ??: Art Campbell Cc?: Framers List Objet?: Re: how to prevent empty pages in a book? (part xxviii) While very true (you can't have a piece of paper with only one face, at least not without applying a hefty dose of quantum physics) this shouldn't affect the book from chapter to chapter IF the book file has its own settings and is not inheriting pagination from the files. Double check the book file's pagination settings and make sure you have nothing in there that would possibly specify a consistently even pagination. No set starting page side, no "make page count even", etc. On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Art Campbell wrote: > The book pagination only applies if the book environment is present. So if > you're also treating the files as individual documents, you need to set them > up properly. In particular, since you have left and right pages, I'd guess > that you're using double-sided pagination... which would force any single > page document to grow an empty back page, just because there are ALWAYS an > even number of pages. -- Bill Swallow Twitter: @techcommdood Blog: http://techcommdood.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/techcommdood Available for contract and full time opportunities. STC Ideas: http://stcideas.ning.com Join: http://stcideas.ning.com/?xgi=6X1vNGI ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as richard.pesant at shimadzu.ca. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/richard.pesant%40shimadz u.ca Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: how to prevent empty pages in a book? (part xxviii)
Another thing to check is the first paragraph format for the pagination start setting (Paragraph Designer->Pagination tab). It should not be set to start at top of a specific page. Richard Pesant richard.pes...@shimadzu.ca -Message d'origine- De : framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] De la part de Bill Swallow Envoyé : 16 décembre 2009 09:54 À : Art Campbell Cc : Framers List Objet : Re: how to prevent empty pages in a book? (part xxviii) While very true (you can't have a piece of paper with only one face, at least not without applying a hefty dose of quantum physics) this shouldn't affect the book from chapter to chapter IF the book file has its own settings and is not inheriting pagination from the files. Double check the book file's pagination settings and make sure you have nothing in there that would possibly specify a consistently even pagination. No set starting page side, no "make page count even", etc. On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Art Campbell wrote: > The book pagination only applies if the book environment is present. So if > you're also treating the files as individual documents, you need to set them > up properly. In particular, since you have left and right pages, I'd guess > that you're using double-sided pagination... which would force any single > page document to grow an empty back page, just because there are ALWAYS an > even number of pages. -- Bill Swallow Twitter: @techcommdood Blog: http://techcommdood.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/techcommdood Available for contract and full time opportunities. STC Ideas: http://stcideas.ning.com Join: http://stcideas.ning.com/?xgi=6X1vNGI ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as richard.pes...@shimadzu.ca. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/richard.pesant%40shimadz u.ca Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Backslashes In Hypertext Commands
Win XP SP2, P4 Extreme Ed. 3.46GHz + 3.47GHz 2GB, FM 8.0p277 Thanks to Rick Quattro, I am now aware of the backslash issue in dialog boxes and have a workaround within scripts. However, I need to create an hypertext command and do not know how to work around this issue. The hypertext command ?openlink D:\Docs\Products\CARDIO\DAR-9400f\M517-E063L-E099D_DAR-9400f Ops Manuals_v3.0\D90+94_02-Overview.fm:2 998348? becomes ?openlink D:?ocs\Products\CARDIO?AR-9400f\sm517-E063L-E099D_DAR-9400f Ops Manuals_v3.0?90+94_02-Overview.fm:2 998348? where ?\D? becomes ??? and ?\M? becomes ?\sm?. If I use the ?openObjectId? command, the backslashes are not replaced but the link does not work. Does anyone knows a good work around for this issue? Thanks, Richard Pesant
Backslashes In Hypertext Commands
Win XP SP2, P4 Extreme Ed. 3.46GHz + 3.47GHz 2GB, FM 8.0p277 Thanks to Rick Quattro, I am now aware of the backslash issue in dialog boxes and have a workaround within scripts. However, I need to create an hypertext command and do not know how to work around this issue. The hypertext command “openlink D:\Docs\Products\CARDIO\DAR-9400f\M517-E063L-E099D_DAR-9400f Ops Manuals_v3.0\D90+94_02-Overview.fm:2 998348” becomes “openlink D:‡ocs\Products\CARDIO‡AR-9400f\sm517-E063L-E099D_DAR-9400f Ops Manuals_v3.0‡90+94_02-Overview.fm:2 998348” where “\D” becomes “‡” and “\M” becomes “\sm”. If I use the “openObjectId” command, the backslashes are not replaced but the link does not work. Does anyone knows a good work around for this issue? Thanks, Richard Pesant ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Framemaker uses
Actually, there are 2 major problems with Word's autonumbering feature. The first one is setting it up properly, for which we do have control. The second one is stability, for which we have absolutely no control. From my own experience, I have not yet found a way to get stable numbering in a Word doc. Period. On the other hand, this is one of Frame's great advantage. Stability. Richard Pesant -Original Message- From: Jon Harvey [mailto:jhar...@cambridgesoft.com] Sent: Thu, 15 May 2008 19:08:05 -0400 To: Deirdre Reagan, Robin B White Cc: Frame Users, Leah Smaller Subject: RE: Framemaker uses I have to agree with Deirdre. I struggled with the same autonumbering issues in Word that everyone else has before I realized how it actually works. Even after you know how to use it, you still have to pay attention to what you are doing so that you don't mess it up. But do I like it better than how FM does the same thing? Of course not. FM is much easier to use. Jon Harvey Manager, Desktop Documentation CambridgeSoft Corporation 100 CambridgePark Drive Cambridge, MA 02140 (617) 588-9354
RE: Framemaker uses
Actually, there are 2 major problems with Word's autonumbering feature. The first one is setting it up properly, for which we do have control. The second one is stability, for which we have absolutely no control. From my own experience, I have not yet found a way to get stable numbering in a Word doc. Period. On the other hand, this is one of Frame's great advantage. Stability. Richard Pesant -Original Message- From: Jon Harvey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 15 May 2008 19:08:05 -0400 To: Deirdre Reagan, Robin B White Cc: Frame Users, Leah Smaller Subject: RE: Framemaker uses I have to agree with Deirdre. I struggled with the same autonumbering issues in Word that everyone else has before I realized how it actually works. Even after you know how to use it, you still have to pay attention to what you are doing so that you don't mess it up. But do I like it better than how FM does the same thing? Of course not. FM is much easier to use. Jon Harvey Manager, Desktop Documentation CambridgeSoft Corporation 100 CambridgePark Drive Cambridge, MA 02140 (617) 588-9354 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available via Adobe Updater
I had no problem whatsoever on 2 PCs. Richard -Original Message- From: owner-framers at omsys.com [mailto:owner-fram...@omsys.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McDaniel Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:59 PM To: FramersAlternative E-mail List; Framers E-mail List Subject: RE: FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available via Adobe Updater Nope, did same thing to me first couple of times I tried. Finally, the installer got traction and it updated. I tried updates on the rest of the suite and same thing happened, so I gave up. > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Linda G. > Gallagher > Sent: 2008-05-14 12:03 > To: 'Dov Isaacs'; 'Frame2Acrobat E-mail List'; 'FramersAlternative E-mail List'; 'Framers E-mail List' > Subject: RE: FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available via Adobe Updater > > Anyone else having trouble getting this update to install? > > I've tried multiple times, including from Acrobat after completely shutting > down my system and every time it says that it detects that FM is open and > cannot install. At least twice, FM was definitely not open. > > Wondering if it's just my system or if others are having the same problem. I > was really hoping to get my dictionary working properly. > > > ~ > Linda G. Gallagher > TechCom Plus, LLC > lindag at techcomplus dot com > www.techcomplus.com > 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144 > User guides, online help, FrameMaker and > WebWorks ePublisher templates > > > > > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Dov Isaacs > Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 9:12 AM > To: Frame2Acrobat E-mail List; FramersAlternative E-mail List; Framers > E-mail List > Subject: FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available via Adobe Updater > Importance: High > > The FrameMaker 8.0.3 update is now available via the Adobe Updater. > It will be available via Adobe's website in the very near future. > > - Dov > > > Per the "readme"... > > List of major issues resolved in this update. > > * Extended characters have extra preceding space when using Arial Unicode MS > > * FM catalogs don't sort properly. > > * DITA Conref does not get resolved in some cases. > > * Some higher code point characters are dropped on MIF open > > * In documents with Japanese, Chinese and Korean combination fonts, > quotation marks look different than in FM7.x > > * While using Combined Fonts, non-Asian characters present in the Asian font > are displayed using the Asian font instead of the non-Asian fonts. > > * Random letters disappear from textline present in oval within anchored > Frame. > > * Use of page range in Index randomly adds a couple of question marks left > and right in the generated index file. > > * Characters become invisible on the screen on the next line while > hyphenating words just before the accented chars. > > * The NextPfgTag remains the same when pressing Enter at the beginning of > the line. > > * FM crashes when a document containing hypertext (spread over two lines) to > marker is saved. > > * FM spellchecker does not make use of user.dct entries > > * History palette does not record typing command in textline. > > * FM crashes on saving a file after deleting split-ed text line. > > * For a 3d imported by reference, on moving it from hidden to show all after > applying conditional text, the referenced path is lost and has facets which > are for u3d imported as copy > > * Pressing space button at the start of line places cursor at the end of > line. > > * Drag fails if the target happens to be a locked range. > > * FM crashes when a graphic file with object properties dialog open is > overwritten at the system. > > * Importing object to the second file when "Quick Access Bar" and > "Formatting Bar" are open and then closing the file, crashes FM. > > * Converting a cross-reference to text crashes FrameMaker when the format of > the cross-reference has been edited. > > * Performing a find change using the backwards option leads to a crash. > > * Change All operation of a character leads to crash. > > * When an equation is applied in conditional text and hidden, it results in > crash. > > * The hyphenation of words in old netherland language changes character > case. > > * In Netherland language words get corrupted when unhyphenation is done with > the words which have dieresis. > > * Garbage characters are shown in Tab stop list box if a legacy file > containing higher ANSI characters in Align field of decimal tab is opened in > FM 8. > > * Japanese tab stops do not work in FM 8. > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as lindag at techcomplus.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank
RE: FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available via Adobe Updater
I had no problem whatsoever on 2 PCs. Richard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly McDaniel Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:59 PM To: FramersAlternative E-mail List; Framers E-mail List Subject: RE: FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available via Adobe Updater Nope, did same thing to me first couple of times I tried. Finally, the installer got traction and it updated. I tried updates on the rest of the suite and same thing happened, so I gave up. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Linda G. > Gallagher > Sent: 2008-05-14 12:03 > To: 'Dov Isaacs'; 'Frame2Acrobat E-mail List'; 'FramersAlternative E-mail List'; 'Framers E-mail List' > Subject: RE: FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available via Adobe Updater > > Anyone else having trouble getting this update to install? > > I've tried multiple times, including from Acrobat after completely shutting > down my system and every time it says that it detects that FM is open and > cannot install. At least twice, FM was definitely not open. > > Wondering if it's just my system or if others are having the same problem. I > was really hoping to get my dictionary working properly. > > > ~ > Linda G. Gallagher > TechCom Plus, LLC > lindag at techcomplus dot com > www.techcomplus.com > 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144 > User guides, online help, FrameMaker and > WebWorks ePublisher templates > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dov Isaacs > Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 9:12 AM > To: Frame2Acrobat E-mail List; FramersAlternative E-mail List; Framers > E-mail List > Subject: FrameMaker 8.0.3 Update Now Available via Adobe Updater > Importance: High > > The FrameMaker 8.0.3 update is now available via the Adobe Updater. > It will be available via Adobe's website in the very near future. > > - Dov > > > Per the "readme"... > > List of major issues resolved in this update. > > * Extended characters have extra preceding space when using Arial Unicode MS > > * FM catalogs don't sort properly. > > * DITA Conref does not get resolved in some cases. > > * Some higher code point characters are dropped on MIF open > > * In documents with Japanese, Chinese and Korean combination fonts, > quotation marks look different than in FM7.x > > * While using Combined Fonts, non-Asian characters present in the Asian font > are displayed using the Asian font instead of the non-Asian fonts. > > * Random letters disappear from textline present in oval within anchored > Frame. > > * Use of page range in Index randomly adds a couple of question marks left > and right in the generated index file. > > * Characters become invisible on the screen on the next line while > hyphenating words just before the accented chars. > > * The NextPfgTag remains the same when pressing Enter at the beginning of > the line. > > * FM crashes when a document containing hypertext (spread over two lines) to > marker is saved. > > * FM spellchecker does not make use of user.dct entries > > * History palette does not record typing command in textline. > > * FM crashes on saving a file after deleting split-ed text line. > > * For a 3d imported by reference, on moving it from hidden to show all after > applying conditional text, the referenced path is lost and has facets which > are for u3d imported as copy > > * Pressing space button at the start of line places cursor at the end of > line. > > * Drag fails if the target happens to be a locked range. > > * FM crashes when a graphic file with object properties dialog open is > overwritten at the system. > > * Importing object to the second file when "Quick Access Bar" and > "Formatting Bar" are open and then closing the file, crashes FM. > > * Converting a cross-reference to text crashes FrameMaker when the format of > the cross-reference has been edited. > > * Performing a find change using the backwards option leads to a crash. > > * Change All operation of a character leads to crash. > > * When an equation is applied in conditional text and hidden, it results in > crash. > > * The hyphenation of words in old netherland language changes character > case. > > * In Netherland language words get corrupted when unhyphenation is done with > the words which have dieresis. > > * Garbage characters are shown in Tab stop list box if a legacy file > containing higher ANSI characters in Align field of decimal tab is opened in > FM 8. > > * Japanese tab stops do not work in FM 8. > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/lindag%40techcomplus .com > > Send
RE: RE: Keyboard shortcut for copyright symbol
Hi Carla, Are you talking about the AutoText plugin from Silicon Prairies? If so, can you provide details on how you set up your AutoText.fm doc? Maybe I am missing something but I just cannot figure out how to get the symbol from the AutoText command. Thanks, Richard -Original Message- Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 10:43:50 -0600 From: "Martinek, Carla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Keyboard shortcut for copyright symbol To: "Framers" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Here's my personal list that I've put into my AutoText menu in Frame: Copyright Symbol ... Alt+0169 Registered Symbol ... Alt+0174 Trademark Symbol ... Alt+0153 - Straight Quote Single ... Ctrl+' Straight Quote Double ... Esc " Ellipses ... Alt+0133 Bullet ... Alt+0149 Endash ... Alt+0150 Emdash ... Alt+0151 Nonbreaking Space ... Esc-space-h Nonbreaking Hyphen ... Esc-(hyphen)-h Period-Centered/Middle Dot... Alt+0183 - Omega ... Symbol Font W Mu Symbol ... Alt+0181 Plus/Minus Symbol ... Alt+0177 Not Equal To... Symbol Font Alt+0185 Multiply Symbol ... Alt+0215 Degree/Ring Symbol ... Alt+0176 Squared Symbol ... Alt+0178 Cubed Symbol ... Alt+0179 One Quarter/Fourth ... Alt+0188 One Half ... Alt+0189 Three Quarters ... Alt+0190 -Carla ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Keyboard shortcut for copyright symbol
Hi Carla, Are you talking about the AutoText plugin from Silicon Prairies? If so, can you provide details on how you set up your AutoText.fm doc? Maybe I am missing something but I just cannot figure out how to get the symbol from the AutoText command. Thanks, Richard -Original Message- Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 10:43:50 -0600 From: "Martinek, Carla" Subject: RE: Keyboard shortcut for copyright symbol To: "Framers" Message-ID: <56BB7301E340C54291D9728333B94F090EF6D998 at 03s03exch02.zebra.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Here's my personal list that I've put into my AutoText menu in Frame: Copyright Symbol ... Alt+0169 Registered Symbol ... Alt+0174 Trademark Symbol ... Alt+0153 - Straight Quote Single ... Ctrl+' Straight Quote Double ... Esc " Ellipses ... Alt+0133 Bullet ... Alt+0149 Endash ... Alt+0150 Emdash ... Alt+0151 Nonbreaking Space ... Esc-space-h Nonbreaking Hyphen ... Esc-(hyphen)-h Period-Centered/Middle Dot... Alt+0183 - Omega ... Symbol Font W Mu Symbol ... Alt+0181 Plus/Minus Symbol ... Alt+0177 Not Equal To... Symbol Font Alt+0185 Multiply Symbol ... Alt+0215 Degree/Ring Symbol ... Alt+0176 Squared Symbol ... Alt+0178 Cubed Symbol ... Alt+0179 One Quarter/Fourth ... Alt+0188 One Half ... Alt+0189 Three Quarters ... Alt+0190 -Carla
Compatibility between FM7.1 and 7.2
Can anyone let me know if documents created with v7.2 can be opened with v7.1 without having to mif them? We are presently using v7.1 and need to purchase more licenses. Presently, we do not have an XML requirement but it is under consideration. So my question is: if we start purchasing v7.2 licenses, do we have to upgrade the v7.1 stations at the same time, or can we do it only when XML becomes a requirement? Thanks, Richard
Compatibility between FM7.1 and 7.2
Can anyone let me know if documents created with v7.2 can be opened with v7.1 without having to mif them? We are presently using v7.1 and need to purchase more licenses. Presently, we do not have an XML requirement but it is under consideration. So my question is: if we start purchasing v7.2 licenses, do we have to upgrade the v7.1 stations at the same time, or can we do it only when XML becomes a requirement? Thanks, Richard ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
