Re: Frame 8-compatible file format?
I transfer files between Frame 12 and Frame 8 every week without a problem; in Frame 12, I save as v.12 *.mif. These mif file open reliably in Frame 8 every time (and Unicode encoding is maintained, as was pointed out already). -- The message console lets you admire all that nutritious Frame 12 code that Frame 8 excretes as unpalatable. As mentioned, I've yet to encounter a problem. -- Would be nice if I could set the default save format to, mif. Cheers, Mike Framers, A little googling did not clarify anything for me, so I thought I'd ask here. I'm on Frame 8; none of the added features in subsequent releases seemed relevant enough to me to justify upgrading (and it works fine for me on Windows 7). The issue I have is that I need to send some manuals out for quote to be translated, and I want to make sure that the files they send back to me, can be opened in Frame 8. (I figured it's better to clarify upfront, rather than chance running into issues later. I have no idea what the translation companies are able to provide, but Murphy dictates that if I don't clarify, I'll run into issues.)... --- Michael Heine University of Western Ontario London Canada ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Backgrading Frame 12 to Frame 8 - Unicode issue
Good one, thanks Robert! Frame 8 does indeed shed those mysterious Frame 12 instructions, but give me back my Unicode. Much apprecciated - Mike On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 18:04:07 -0700, Robert Lauriston wrote Try saving as MIF 12. FM8 may just ignore the things it doesn't recognize. On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 5:48 PM, mkopen mko...@transversant.ca wrote: Hello all - Working with Frame 12, I have to deliver some files to a Frame 8 user. The only option in Frame 12 is to save to version 7 *.mif. That would work if I weren't using Unicode fonts (for Canadian Aboriginal languages). As one would expect, when I open the v.7 miffed files in Frame 8, the diacritics have morphed into question marks. Not good. Suggestions would be welcome. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Backgrading Frame 12 to Frame 8 - Unicode issue
Good one, thanks Robert! Frame 8 does indeed shed those mysterious Frame 12 instructions, but gives me back my Unicode. Much apprecciated - Mike On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 18:04:07 -0700, Robert Lauriston wrote Try saving as MIF 12. FM8 may just ignore the things it doesn't recognize. On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 5:48 PM, mkopen mko...@transversant.ca wrote: Hello all - Working with Frame 12, I have to deliver some files to a Frame 8 user. The only option in Frame 12 is to save to version 7 *.mif. That would work if I weren't using Unicode fonts (for Canadian Aboriginal languages). As one would expect, when I open the v.7 miffed files in Frame 8, the diacritics have morphed into question marks. Not good. Suggestions would be welcome. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Backgrading Frame 12 to Frame 8 - Unicode issue
Hello all - Working with Frame 12, I have to deliver some files to a Frame 8 user. The only option in Frame 12 is to save to version 7 *.mif. That would work if I weren't using Unicode fonts (for Canadian Aboriginal languages). As one would expect, when I open the v.7 miffed files in Frame 8, the diacritics have morphed into question marks. Not good. Suggestions would be welcome. Cheers, Mike === Michael Heine University of Western Ontario London, ON ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Keyboard shortcut to move into next footnote text flow?
On a related note: I use a Framescript developed by Rick Quattro; it converts footnotes into 'endnotes' (cross-references). I run just the kind of clean-up you describe on the cross-references (copy/paste special is the thing). My output requires endnotes, not footnotes, but I convert a copy of the file back to footnotes (the script is reversible and will convert the cross-reference endnotes back to real footnotes), to keep a native footnoted Frame file (against the rare request for retrograde activity back to MS-Word). Has worked without a hitch (Frame 8-12) for several years, my document collection typically contains 2,000-3,000 foot/endnotes, all told (historians, eh?). ... and yes, twenty years later, I've given up on registering this as an Adobe RFE ... Cheers, Mike Michael Heine University of Western Ontario London Canada From: Harding, Dan dhard...@illinois.edu To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Keyboard shortcut to move into next footnote text flow? My apologies if I?m using incorrect terminology. When I start a chapter via importing from Word, there?s a fair amount of cleanup work I have to do re: footnotes. If my cursor is in a footnote and I want to jump to the next footnote (not to the footnote?s position in the main text, but into the footnote text flow), is there a keyboard shortcut for doing so? I have been able to search for the next footnote paragraph tag, and while that works, (1) it?s multiple keystrokes, and more importantly (2) if the source document was tagged inconsistently, the search will fail, jumping to a subsequent footnote, meaning I still have to manually go through and fix the outliers. I can fix #1 via AutoHotKey. #2 is a sticky problem. If there is a shortcut, I?m unaware of it, and if there is a better object to search for than the paragraph tag, I?m also ignorant of that. I know that many people say to avoid importing from Word, but when you have chapters that have 200-400 footnotes and as many index markers, trust me, you do NOT want to have to manually redo all of those? Thanks in advance, -Dan ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Script to convert Images to SVG using AI
Irfanview (freeware) with a shareware plugin (http://cadsofttools.com/products/plugins_for_3d-party_programs) performs svg conversion operations. 14 Euros for the plugin, according to the web site. Cheers, Mike I need to convert a bunch of images (all kinds: EPS, JPG, BMP etc) to SVG format. It works with Adobe Illustrator, but to do 700 images manually is a lot of work. Anyone familiar with Extendscript for AI who can help me writing a script? I also need to update the FM files afterwards. === Michael Heine University of Western Ontario London Canada ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: read only in Frame 6
It is also possible to lock a file permanently. - save as mif - open the mif file in your text editor - in the Document section: - change DViewOnly No to DViewOnly Yes [Esc-F-l-k] - below this line, insert DViewOnlyNoOp 0xF00 [disable Esc-F-l-k] - save the file in your text editor. - for convenience, rename the file to *.fm (it cannot be unlocked via Esc-F-l-k, so it cannot be saved as *.fm either, Framemaker won't mind) To unlock the file, the above procedure has to be reversed. Cheers, Mike Open the document and press Escape F l k in sequence. The second character is lower-case L. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-366-4017 r...@frameexpert.com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Michael Wiesenberg ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Frame ate my Acrobat!
I just installed Frame 12 in all its icon-coloured glory, and now my Acrobat 955 has gone awol, Windows 7 didn't even understand the file extension any longer. How very rude! Hard to say how Acro 9 was extracted individually, since I installed it as part of CS4. Since CS4 hadn't heard of Frame's rather underhanded surgery, I had to 'uninstall' Acro 9 through CS4 first (it as still listed as installed), before I could reinstall it. The annoying thing is that, to get myself to v. 955, I have to run through the 19 or thereabout patches, since there's no service pack' equivalent. At least I don't have to go through the online activation rigmarole with CS4. ... Acrobat 9? Well may you ask! The last version before the GUI madness struck that left us keyboardists adrift, methinks, and I do like my IBM keyboard -- unless someone can point me to the keyboard shortcuts for all the functions packed into the menu bar on the right in v.11, and transform them from unknown unknowns into known unknowns? I could finally use one of my Acro 11 licenses! Mind you, in my opinion even a mouse-driven menu will trump a keyboard-driven one that is no longer available, any time of the day - a strange way to soften me up for Acro 11, though. Nice try, Frame 12! Oh well, tgif. Good weekend all! Mike ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: OT: Font suggestions for book? (Scott Turner)
Robert Bringhurst, Elements of Typographic Style, if anyone wants to spend a weekend on the couch ... Cheers, Mike I have a fondness for Minion or Garamond. I think you can find a free font that is similar to these. However, the cost is relatively small, so purchase should be considered. The advantage if Minion and Garamond is that they both have a relatively low height to width ratio, making them very readable. If you opt for a free font, look for that. Avoid Times, it's narrow, designed for newspaper columns. On Aug 15, 2013, at 17:22, VLM TechSubs techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org wrote: Greetings everyone, I?m working in FM 8, Win 7 x64 on a book that will be published this Fall. I?ve now been asked to do the book design, in addition to most of the writing and basic template design. The subject matter is primarily financial ? it?s a book about the history of taxation. It?s not a scholarly work at all, but rather one designed to ?wake up? American teens and young adults to some of the issues involved. Footnotes are used here and there, but more for explanation of background/details than in a traditional sense as references. The book will be published in a standard 6x9 format, paperback. All that having been said ? What are people?s favorite or recommended fonts for such a project. And since this is being published on a shoestring budget with a nonprofit/educational bent, suggestions of free fonts would be most welcome. Well, thanks in advance! Best regards, Elchanan ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
OT: Font suggestions for book? (Scott Turner)
Robert Bringhurst, Elements of Typographic Style, if anyone wants to spend a weekend on the couch ... Cheers, Mike > > I have a fondness for Minion or Garamond. I think you can find a > free font that is similar to these. However, the cost is relatively > small, so purchase should be considered. > > The advantage if Minion and Garamond is that they both have a > relatively low height to width ratio, making them very readable. If > you opt for a free font, look for that. Avoid Times, it's narrow, > designed for newspaper columns. > > On Aug 15, 2013, at 17:22, "VLM TechSubs" > wrote: > > > Greetings everyone, > > > > I?m working in FM 8, Win 7 x64 on a book that will be published this Fall. I?ve now been asked to do the book design, in addition to most of the writing and basic template design. The subject matter is primarily financial ? it?s a book about the history of taxation. It?s not a scholarly work at all, but rather one designed to ?wake up? American teens and young adults to some of the issues involved. Footnotes are used here and there, but more for explanation of background/details than in a traditional sense as references. The book will be published in a standard 6x9 format, paperback. > > > > All that having been said ? What are people?s favorite or recommended fonts for such a project. And since this is being published on a shoestring budget with a nonprofit/educational bent, suggestions of free fonts would be most welcome. > > > > Well, thanks in advance! > > > > Best regards, > > Elchanan > > ___ > >
Re: Special character: punctuation space
Couldn't get more massively useful than this! Thanks for this one! Cheers, Mike - Michael Heine Western University London Canada ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Special character: punctuation space
Couldn't get more massively useful than this! Thanks for this one! Cheers, Mike - Michael Heine Western University London Canada
Hide paranum in conditional table cell?
Hello all, I have a table with one column containing a control counter that I require. Come pdf production I want to hide that counter (entire column, preferably), so I need conditional text. It's not possible to apply conditional text to a column, and I understand why you cannot hide the autonumumber in conditionalized text in a table cell. The only work-around that occurs to me is to insert a text frame into an anchored frame that's placed in the cell, and apply the condition to the counter I insert in the text frame. That works as far as I can see, and the autonumbered paragraph is not used anywhere else and has its own letter prefix. It still seems somewhat fragile, though - before I go with this, can anyone see anything that might break this scheme (I won't change the table sorting direction in the document.) Cheers and thanks, Mike Michael Heine London, Ontario ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Hide paranum in conditional table cell?
Hello all, I have a table with one column containing a control counter that I require. Come pdf production I want to hide that counter (entire column, preferably), so I need conditional text. It's not possible to apply conditional text to a column, and I understand why you cannot hide the autonumumber in conditionalized text in a table cell. The only work-around that occurs to me is to insert a text frame into an anchored frame that's placed in the cell, and apply the condition to the counter I insert in the text frame. That works as far as I can see, and the autonumbered paragraph is not used anywhere else and has its own letter prefix. It still seems somewhat fragile, though - before I go with this, can anyone see anything that might break this scheme (I won't change the table sorting direction in the document.) Cheers and thanks, Mike Michael Heine London, Ontario
RE: Clicking hyperlink closes source file?
Thanks! So simple ... been bugging me forever. Rick Quattro wrote: Mike, Hold the Shift key when you click the link and the original file should stay open. Rick ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Clicking hyperlink closes source file?
Thanks! So simple ... been bugging me forever. Rick Quattro wrote: > Mike, > Hold the Shift key when you click the link and the > original file should stay open. > Rick
Clicking hyperlink closes source file?
Hello all - I forget who asked this question recently, but I don't remember reading an answer: Does anyone know why sometimes when you click on a cross-file cross-reference the source file closes and sometimes it does not close? MI want the source file of the link to stay open. Is there a setting somewhere for that, or is 'close source file' a default that cannot be changed? Cheers, Mike -- Michael Heine London, ON Canada ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Clicking hyperlink closes source file?
Hello all - I forget who asked this question recently, but I don't remember reading an answer: Does anyone know why sometimes when you click on a cross-file cross-reference the source file closes and sometimes it does not close? MI want the source file of the link to stay open. Is there a setting somewhere for that, or is 'close source file' a default that cannot be changed? Cheers, Mike -- Michael Heine London, ON Canada
Version gossip
Framers and Freemers - I'm not sure whether Adobe has been gripped by that giving spirit of the season, but if you check the document properties of the readme.pdf for the recent Adobe 10.0.2 update (http://download.adobe.com/pub/adobe/framemaker/win/10.x/Adobe_FrameMaker_10_0_2_Update.pdf), you'll see that the file was produced in Framemaker 11.0. Getting those hopes up, just in time for Christmas, no doubt ... just gossiping ... Cheers, Mike Michael Heine University of Western Ontario ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Version gossip
Framers and Freemers - I'm not sure whether Adobe has been gripped by that giving spirit of the season, but if you check the document properties of the readme.pdf for the recent Adobe 10.0.2 update (http://download.adobe.com/pub/adobe/framemaker/win/10.x/Adobe_FrameMaker_10_0_2_Update.pdf), you'll see that the file was produced in Framemaker 11.0. Getting those hopes up, just in time for Christmas, no doubt ... just gossiping ... Cheers, Mike Michael Heine University of Western Ontario
Frame 10 trial install: Fail
Dear all, Just tried to install the Frame X trial download. The setup program starts off briskly, but after mulling over the case for a while, it decides to ask me for a DVD. Unsurprisingly, I ain't got any. What am I doing wrong? Pointers would be appreciated. (Perhaps it's trying to check on the DVD drive that's absent from ny notebook ...) Cheers, Mike -- London, ON ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Windows 7 - Snap
Dear all, Windows 7 has this fairly useful windows sizing capability, 'Snap' in Windowese. AFAIK it works with Acrobat 9, Frame 8 and earlier; none of the programs that are clad in the new grey Stalin gothic, I mean, Adobe GUI, will allow that much usefulness, including Frame 9. Does anybody know of a secret switch to turn this back on? (BTW, I preferred the Ctrl-click option for selecting windows for side-by-side display in Win 2K to Vista, but that's now gone from Win 7). And what about Frame X and Acrobat 10, which I don't have installed yet. Have they come to their senses? Cheers, Mike -- London, ON ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Frame 10 trial install: Fail
Dear all, Just tried to install the Frame X trial download. The setup program starts off briskly, but after mulling over the case for a while, it decides to ask me for a DVD. Unsurprisingly, I ain't got any. What am I doing wrong? Pointers would be appreciated. (Perhaps it's trying to check on the DVD drive that's absent from ny notebook ...) Cheers, Mike -- London, ON
Windows 7 - Snap
Dear all, Windows 7 has this fairly useful windows sizing capability, 'Snap' in Windowese. AFAIK it works with Acrobat 9, Frame 8 and earlier; none of the programs that are clad in the new grey Stalin gothic, I mean, Adobe GUI, will allow that much usefulness, including Frame 9. Does anybody know of a secret switch to turn this back on? (BTW, I preferred the Ctrl-click option for selecting windows for side-by-side display in Win 2K to Vista, but that's now gone from Win 7). And what about Frame X and Acrobat 10, which I don't have installed yet. Have they come to their senses? Cheers, Mike -- London, ON
Re: FM9 - closing podspanels
Mary - you wrote: I hadn't thought to use the change-focus keyboard shortcut Shift+F7 -- I was searching documentation for text about closingdocking podspanels... Lief's idea is a step in the right direction for me. If anyone from Adobe is listening, please let me know if there *is* a keyboard shortcut, or consider making the close-dialog-box keyboard shortcuts work for podspanels in a future update. I second that. In fact, the keyboard shortcuts should function as toggles, e.g., Ctrl-M: open ParaDesigner / Ctrl-M: close ParaDesigner etc., etc. Thus: Want to get the focus back to the CharDesigner that's open but buried under 10 open windows? Ctrl-D (close) / Ctrl-D... (open with focus). - See what happens when you press Ctrl-M in InDesign; press again. The resemblance to Frame must very likely be entirely coincidental, but it's unfortunately limited to the first Ctrl-M. Cheers, Mike ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FM9 - closing pods
Mary - you wrote: >>> I hadn't thought to use the change-focus keyboard shortcut Shift+F7 -- I was searching documentation for text about closing pods Lief's idea is a step in the right direction for me. If anyone from Adobe is listening, please let me know if there *is* a keyboard shortcut, or consider making the close-dialog-box keyboard shortcuts work for pods in a future update. <<< I second that. In fact, the keyboard shortcuts should function as toggles, e.g., Ctrl-M: open ParaDesigner / Ctrl-M: close ParaDesigner etc., etc. Thus: Want to get the focus back to the CharDesigner that's open but buried under 10 open windows? Ctrl-D (close) / Ctrl-D... (open with focus). - See what happens when you press Ctrl-M in InDesign; press again. The resemblance to Frame must very likely be entirely coincidental, but it's unfortunately limited to the first Ctrl-M. Cheers, Mike
Re: recurring decimals (1 FM8 file attached)
Syed, you wrote That method actually worked very well in certain places in my document, but I have a problem with it in a few others. In some cases, the dot needs to be above the number, but the very next character is either another number or a letter. For example (contrived but real samples here): 19.1345... Where a dot needs to be above _both_ the 1 and the 5, or: 10.999Z Where the dot is above the final 9 that is just before the Z. I actually have three places in this document where I need this constructed example, believe it or not! Anyway, I don't seem to be able to eliminate the space _after_ that digit with the dot using the method you describe unless I am overlooking something simple? The first example above shows as 19.1 345 i.e., a space after the 1 and the 5 - the digits that have the dots, and the second example shows as 10.999 Z. BTW, with a little bit of experimentation, I was able to change the font of the number in the equation to match the other test, so that worked our pretty well (not perfect spacing - particularly after the number with the dot - but usable). I have similar problems positioning diacritics in Canadian Aboriginal languages. I use the Rubi ((Special-Rubi)functionality to enter the diacritics required, and then I move them into place using the alt-arrow method described. The advantage is that Frame treats the combination as a single letter. - Might not work for some of the placements you need, though. Cheers, Mike London Canada ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
recurring decimals (1 FM8 file attached)
Syed, you wrote > That method actually worked very well in certain places in my document, but I have a problem with it in a few others. In some cases, the dot needs to be above the number, but the very next character is either another number or a letter. For example (contrived but real samples here): 19.1345... Where a dot needs to be above _both_ the "1" and the "5", or: 10.999Z Where the dot is above the final "9" that is just before the "Z". I actually have three places in this document where I need this constructed example, believe it or not! Anyway, I don't seem to be able to eliminate the space _after_ that digit with the dot using the method you describe unless I am overlooking something simple? The first example above shows as "19.1 345 " i.e., a space after the 1 and the 5 - the digits that have the dots, and the second example shows as "10.999 Z". BTW, with a little bit of experimentation, I was able to change the font of the number in the equation to match the other test, so that worked our pretty well (not perfect spacing - particularly after the number with the dot - but usable). < I have similar problems positioning diacritics in Canadian Aboriginal languages. I use the Rubi ((Special->Rubi)functionality to enter the diacritics required, and then I move them into place using the alt-arrow method described. The advantage is that Frame treats the combination as a single letter. - Might not work for some of the placements you need, though. Cheers, Mike London Canada
