Re: [Framers] File Info > Title information problem (Lin Sims)

2018-10-17 Thread Lin Sims
Editing the MIF file didn't work, for heaven only knows what reason.
Carole's solution does, with the amendment that it is, apparently (based on
doing this for a single file out of ... err, several) not necessary to
perform steps 8 and 9.

Tedious, but do-able. Thanks Carole.


On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 4:29 PM Carole McCormick <
carolemccorm...@sunnuclear.com> wrote:

> Here is the process I have used in the past to remove title information
> from a FrameMaker document.
> Procedure to remove File Info from book files - this information is
> propagated in new files when the template is used and cannot be deleted.
> Process for removing:
> 1.Begin by making a backup of all of the files.
> 2.Open a file (I will use Preface as an example). Click File > File Info.
> Remove any "File Info" text.
> 3.Open a new blank document.
> 4.Import formats from Preface into blank document -- ALL except for
> Document Properties.
> 5.Import file (Preface) into blank document - File > Import > File, select
> "Copy into document" at the bottom of the screen, click Import and in the
> dialog box that opens, select "Retain Source Formatting".
> 6.Close the original Preface file.
> 7.Save the "blank" document as Preface.
> 8.Select Format > Page Layout > Column Layout.  In the Column Layout
> dialog box, select the checkbox for Room for Sideheads and then click
> Update Entire Flow.
> 9.Close the file and reopen - the File Info should be gone.
>
> I haven't used this in some time, but hope that it helps.
>
> __
> Carole McCormick
> Technical Writer
>
> Sun Nuclear Corporation
> 3275 Suntree Blvd.
> Melbourne, FL 32940
> Tel: +1 321-259-6862 x2282
> Fax: +1 321-259-7979
> www.sunnuclear.com
>
>
>
-- 
Lin Sims
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Re: [Framers] File Info > Title information problem (Lin Sims)

2018-10-16 Thread John Sgammato
I do many things grumpily, or at least in a state nowhere approaching
gruntlement.

On Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 8:49 PM Lin Sims  wrote:

> Rick found the information in the MIF file. I was (naturally) looking for
> the wrong text.
>
> The info wanted is here (and yes I substituted generic information):
>
> 
>
>
>
> > # end of PDFDocInfo
>
> All I have to do is find that section in the MIF files and fix it, and none
> of our new documents will have a title in them. The older ones, obviously,
> were updated grumpily by me before generating the PDFs. :D
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 4:29 PM Carole McCormick <
> carolemccorm...@sunnuclear.com> wrote:
>
> > Here is the process I have used in the past to remove title information
> > from a FrameMaker document.
> > Procedure to remove File Info from book files - this information is
> > propagated in new files when the template is used and cannot be deleted.
> > Process for removing:
> > 1.Begin by making a backup of all of the files.
> > 2.Open a file (I will use Preface as an example). Click File > File Info.
> > Remove any "File Info" text.
> > 3.Open a new blank document.
> > 4.Import formats from Preface into blank document -- ALL except for
> > Document Properties.
> > 5.Import file (Preface) into blank document - File > Import > File,
> select
> > "Copy into document" at the bottom of the screen, click Import and in the
> > dialog box that opens, select "Retain Source Formatting".
> > 6.Close the original Preface file.
> > 7.Save the "blank" document as Preface.
> > 8.Select Format > Page Layout > Column Layout.  In the Column Layout
> > dialog box, select the checkbox for Room for Sideheads and then click
> > Update Entire Flow.
> > 9.Close the file and reopen - the File Info should be gone.
> >
> > I haven't used this in some time, but hope that it helps.
> >
> > __
> > Carole McCormick
> > Technical Writer
> >
> > Sun Nuclear Corporation
> > 3275 Suntree Blvd.
> > Melbourne, FL 32940
> > Tel: +1 321-259-6862 x2282
> > Fax: +1 321-259-7979
> > www.sunnuclear.com
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Framers  > sunnuclear@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf Of
> > framers-requ...@lists.frameusers.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 4:03 PM
> > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
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> >1. Re:  Structured XML 'title' element (cuc tu)
> >2. Re:  ePub (Doug)
> >3.  Equations (Doug)
> >4.  File Info > Title information problem (Lin Sims)
> >5. Re:  File Info > Title information problem (Jeff Coatsworth)
> >6. Re:  File Info > Title information problem (John Sgammato)
> >7. Re:  File Info > Title information problem (Lin Sims)
> >8. Re:  File Info > Title information problem (Lin Sims)
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 21:02:59 +
> > From: cuc tu 
> > To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" 
> > Subject: Re: [Framers] Structured XML 'title' element
> > Message-ID:
> > <
> >
> mwhpr1801mb18882df29bd6097754ab8e7efd...@mwhpr1801mb1888.namprd18.prod.outlook.com
> > >
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Hi Rick,
> >
> >
> > I suspect a table is involved because of the error message, but all I
> > notice in the XML and structure view is that the 'title' element tags are
> > removed, and its text is then in the 'first_aid' element, which is not
> > valid. In Frame, I can select this title text and then wrap it in the
> > 'title' element, and that will validate. Frame will save the xml file
> with
> > the 'title' element intact, but when the xml is then reopened, the title
> > element is removed again.
> >
> >
> > Related to your question, actual 'table' elements are converted to
> 'Table'
> > elements and then 'Row' elements are inserted. Those elements are
> undefined
> > and appear elsewhere. The above just seemed to be an easier issue to get
> > through as there are still several...
> >
> >
> > I'm fairly certain I have valid xml for the dtd, I just have problems
> with
> > my structured application and am not sure where to look. I built the edd
> > from a supplied dtd and imported the elements into a template file, but I
> > do not map any formatting in the edd (it was simply built

Re: [Framers] File Info > Title information problem (Lin Sims)

2018-10-16 Thread Lin Sims
Rick found the information in the MIF file. I was (naturally) looking for
the wrong text.

The info wanted is here (and yes I substituted generic information):


   
   
   
> # end of PDFDocInfo

All I have to do is find that section in the MIF files and fix it, and none
of our new documents will have a title in them. The older ones, obviously,
were updated grumpily by me before generating the PDFs. :D



On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 4:29 PM Carole McCormick <
carolemccorm...@sunnuclear.com> wrote:

> Here is the process I have used in the past to remove title information
> from a FrameMaker document.
> Procedure to remove File Info from book files - this information is
> propagated in new files when the template is used and cannot be deleted.
> Process for removing:
> 1.Begin by making a backup of all of the files.
> 2.Open a file (I will use Preface as an example). Click File > File Info.
> Remove any "File Info" text.
> 3.Open a new blank document.
> 4.Import formats from Preface into blank document -- ALL except for
> Document Properties.
> 5.Import file (Preface) into blank document - File > Import > File, select
> "Copy into document" at the bottom of the screen, click Import and in the
> dialog box that opens, select "Retain Source Formatting".
> 6.Close the original Preface file.
> 7.Save the "blank" document as Preface.
> 8.Select Format > Page Layout > Column Layout.  In the Column Layout
> dialog box, select the checkbox for Room for Sideheads and then click
> Update Entire Flow.
> 9.Close the file and reopen - the File Info should be gone.
>
> I haven't used this in some time, but hope that it helps.
>
> __
> Carole McCormick
> Technical Writer
>
> Sun Nuclear Corporation
> 3275 Suntree Blvd.
> Melbourne, FL 32940
> Tel: +1 321-259-6862 x2282
> Fax: +1 321-259-7979
> www.sunnuclear.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers  sunnuclear@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf Of
> framers-requ...@lists.frameusers.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 4:03 PM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Framers Digest, Vol 151, Issue 10
>
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>1. Re:  Structured XML 'title' element (cuc tu)
>2. Re:  ePub (Doug)
>3.  Equations (Doug)
>4.  File Info > Title information problem (Lin Sims)
>5. Re:  File Info > Title information problem (Jeff Coatsworth)
>6. Re:  File Info > Title information problem (John Sgammato)
>7. Re:  File Info > Title information problem (Lin Sims)
>8. Re:  File Info > Title information problem (Lin Sims)
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 21:02:59 +
> From: cuc tu 
> To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" 
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Structured XML 'title' element
> Message-ID:
> <
> mwhpr1801mb18882df29bd6097754ab8e7efd...@mwhpr1801mb1888.namprd18.prod.outlook.com
> >
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hi Rick,
>
>
> I suspect a table is involved because of the error message, but all I
> notice in the XML and structure view is that the 'title' element tags are
> removed, and its text is then in the 'first_aid' element, which is not
> valid. In Frame, I can select this title text and then wrap it in the
> 'title' element, and that will validate. Frame will save the xml file with
> the 'title' element intact, but when the xml is then reopened, the title
> element is removed again.
>
>
> Related to your question, actual 'table' elements are converted to 'Table'
> elements and then 'Row' elements are inserted. Those elements are undefined
> and appear elsewhere. The above just seemed to be an easier issue to get
> through as there are still several...
>
>
> I'm fairly certain I have valid xml for the dtd, I just have problems with
> my structured application and am not sure where to look. I built the edd
> from a supplied dtd and imported the elements into a template file, but I
> do not map any formatting in the edd (it was simply built from the dtd).
> Then the rw rules are just from Adobe's structured app reference manual.
>
>
> I think there is something making Frame expect the 'title' element in a
> table and there is a connection to Frame's Table Title, but I don't see
> where that is defined. I suspect something is missing from my rw-rules
> file, which looks as such:
>
>
>
> fm version is "12.0";
> /*
> * Include

Re: [Framers] File Info > Title information problem (Lin Sims)

2018-10-16 Thread Carole McCormick
Here is the process I have used in the past to remove title information from a 
FrameMaker document.
Procedure to remove File Info from book files - this information is propagated 
in new files when the template is used and cannot be deleted. Process for 
removing:
1.Begin by making a backup of all of the files.
2.Open a file (I will use Preface as an example). Click File > File Info. 
Remove any "File Info" text.
3.Open a new blank document.
4.Import formats from Preface into blank document -- ALL except for Document 
Properties.
5.Import file (Preface) into blank document - File > Import > File, select 
"Copy into document" at the bottom of the screen, click Import and in the 
dialog box that opens, select "Retain Source Formatting".
6.Close the original Preface file.
7.Save the "blank" document as Preface.
8.Select Format > Page Layout > Column Layout.  In the Column Layout dialog 
box, select the checkbox for Room for Sideheads and then click Update Entire 
Flow.
9.Close the file and reopen - the File Info should be gone.

I haven't used this in some time, but hope that it helps.

__
Carole McCormick
Technical Writer

Sun Nuclear Corporation
3275 Suntree Blvd.
Melbourne, FL 32940
Tel: +1 321-259-6862 x2282
Fax: +1 321-259-7979
www.sunnuclear.com


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Today's Topics:

   1. Re:  Structured XML 'title' element (cuc tu)
   2. Re:  ePub (Doug)
   3.  Equations (Doug)
   4.  File Info > Title information problem (Lin Sims)
   5. Re:  File Info > Title information problem (Jeff Coatsworth)
   6. Re:  File Info > Title information problem (John Sgammato)
   7. Re:  File Info > Title information problem (Lin Sims)
   8. Re:  File Info > Title information problem (Lin Sims)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 21:02:59 +
From: cuc tu 
To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" 
Subject: Re: [Framers] Structured XML 'title' element
Message-ID:



Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi Rick,


I suspect a table is involved because of the error message, but all I notice in 
the XML and structure view is that the 'title' element tags are removed, and 
its text is then in the 'first_aid' element, which is not valid. In Frame, I 
can select this title text and then wrap it in the 'title' element, and that 
will validate. Frame will save the xml file with the 'title' element intact, 
but when the xml is then reopened, the title element is removed again.


Related to your question, actual 'table' elements are converted to 'Table' 
elements and then 'Row' elements are inserted. Those elements are undefined and 
appear elsewhere. The above just seemed to be an easier issue to get through as 
there are still several...


I'm fairly certain I have valid xml for the dtd, I just have problems with my 
structured application and am not sure where to look. I built the edd from a 
supplied dtd and imported the elements into a template file, but I do not map 
any formatting in the edd (it was simply built from the dtd). Then the rw rules 
are just from Adobe's structured app reference manual.


I think there is something making Frame expect the 'title' element in a table 
and there is a connection to Frame's Table Title, but I don't see where that is 
defined. I suspect something is missing from my rw-rules file, which looks as 
such:



fm version is "12.0";
/*
* Include all ISO entity mapping rules.
*/
#include "isoall.rw"


element "xref" {
is fm cross reference element "Xref";
attribute "formatprop" is fm property cross-reference format; }


element "table" {
is fm table element "Table";
attribute "frame"
{
is fm property table border ruling;
value "top" is fm property value top;
value "bottom" is fm property value bottom; value "topbot" is fm property value 
top and bottom; value "all" is fm property value all; value "sides" is fm 
property value sides; value "none" is fm property value none; } attribute 
"colsep" is fm property column ruling; attribute "rowsep" is fm property row 
ruling; attribute "numcols" is fm property columns; attribute "colwidths" is fm 
property column widths; }


element "tablehead" {
is fm table heading element "TableHea