Re: [Framers] Frame 2017 Export to Word

[Caroline Tabach]

If you just want to send something so that people can send comments using track 
changes, then it is possible to make a PDF, and from Acrobat, "Export to Word"

(obviously I would not recommend using the resulting Word files for other 
things afterwards).



Caroline Tabach
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From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+caroline=radcom@lists.frameusers.com] 
On Behalf Of A Craig
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 8:22 AM
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Subject: [Framers] Frame 2017 Export to Word

Maybe I've imaged it, but I seem to remember threads re: exporting Frame
2017 to Word? (I'm still on Frame 12)

 

Is this possible? Does it result in a usable doc (ie, is the formatting
decent?)

 

I was at a job interview today and it sounds like they could really use the 
Conditional aspects of Frame in order to deliver various flavours of the same 
manuals. However, they have done without a tech writer for a while and like the 
fact that their engineers can simply go into a Word doc and make changes 
themselves.

 

I thought they might try exporting to Word so the engineers could (with Track 
Changes on) make edits in Word. Then the new tech writer - preferably me ;-))) 
- could incorporate those changes into the Frame docs.

 

Alison 

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Re: [Framers] Frame 2017 Export to Word

[Robert Lauriston]

SmartDocs is a client-server structured authoring system similar to
Author-it, Paligo, or one of the high-end DITA systems that typically
use Oxygen or XMetal as clients. It just uses Word as the client.

On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 4:40 PM, A Craig <acr...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> But you're still using Word - which I find highly unreliable, especially for 
> larger docs. And Word doesn't handle images nearly as well as Frame, 
> especially if you're using icons in instructions.
>
> What kind of price tag for SmartDocs?
>
> Alison
>
>
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> Behalf Of Keith Soltys
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> Agreed on using SmartDocs. It's Snapshots feature for managing conditional 
> text and variables in a document is far superior to Word's as is its snippet 
> management.
>
> Regards
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> wrote:
>
>> They could use SmartDocs and have the best of both worlds.
>>
>> Actually, the conditional stuff would probably be a lot better than
>> unstructured FrameMaker.
>>
>> On 12/19/17, A Craig <acr...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>> > ... I was at a job interview today and it sounds like they could
>> > really
>> use the
>> > Conditional aspects of Frame in order to deliver various flavours of
>> > the same manuals. However, they have done without a tech writer for
>> > a while
>> and
>> > like the fact that their engineers can simply go into a Word doc and
>> > make changes themselves. ...
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Re: [Framers] Frame 2017 Export to Word

[A Craig]

But you're still using Word - which I find highly unreliable, especially for 
larger docs. And Word doesn't handle images nearly as well as Frame, especially 
if you're using icons in instructions.

What kind of price tag for SmartDocs?

Alison


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Behalf Of Keith Soltys
Sent: December 21, 2017 2:16 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 
<framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: [Framers] Frame 2017 Export to Word

Agreed on using SmartDocs. It's Snapshots feature for managing conditional text 
and variables in a document is far superior to Word's as is its snippet 
management.

Regards
Keith

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On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Robert Lauriston <rob...@lauriston.com>
wrote:

> They could use SmartDocs and have the best of both worlds.
>
> Actually, the conditional stuff would probably be a lot better than 
> unstructured FrameMaker.
>
> On 12/19/17, A Craig <acr...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> > ... I was at a job interview today and it sounds like they could 
> > really
> use the
> > Conditional aspects of Frame in order to deliver various flavours of 
> > the same manuals. However, they have done without a tech writer for 
> > a while
> and
> > like the fact that their engineers can simply go into a Word doc and 
> > make changes themselves. ...
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Re: [Framers] Frame 2017 Export to Word

[Keith Soltys]

Agreed on using SmartDocs. It's Snapshots feature for managing conditional
text and variables in a document is far superior to Word's as is its
snippet management.

Regards
Keith

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On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Robert Lauriston 
wrote:

> They could use SmartDocs and have the best of both worlds.
>
> Actually, the conditional stuff would probably be a lot better than
> unstructured FrameMaker.
>
> On 12/19/17, A Craig  wrote:
> > ... I was at a job interview today and it sounds like they could really
> use the
> > Conditional aspects of Frame in order to deliver various flavours of the
> > same manuals. However, they have done without a tech writer for a while
> and
> > like the fact that their engineers can simply go into a Word doc and make
> > changes themselves. ...
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Re: [Framers] Frame 2017 Export to Word

[Robert Lauriston]

They could use SmartDocs and have the best of both worlds.

Actually, the conditional stuff would probably be a lot better than
unstructured FrameMaker.

On 12/19/17, A Craig  wrote:
> ... I was at a job interview today and it sounds like they could really use 
> the
> Conditional aspects of Frame in order to deliver various flavours of the
> same manuals. However, they have done without a tech writer for a while and
> like the fact that their engineers can simply go into a Word doc and make
> changes themselves. ...
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Re: [Framers] Frame 2017 Export to Word

[Shmuel Wolfson]

You can save as RTF, which opens directly in Word. You can then do a 
save as in Word if you want .docx format.


I use this so when an engineer wants a Word file for commenting. There 
are numerous formatting issues and other issues with the exported files, 
but they are good enough for adding comments (with tracked changes).


I would not recommend using the exported files in any other way.

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On 20-Dec-17 8:22 AM, A Craig wrote:

Maybe I've imaged it, but I seem to remember threads re: exporting Frame
2017 to Word? (I'm still on Frame 12)

  


Is this possible? Does it result in a usable doc (ie, is the formatting
decent?)

  


I was at a job interview today and it sounds like they could really use the
Conditional aspects of Frame in order to deliver various flavours of the
same manuals. However, they have done without a tech writer for a while and
like the fact that their engineers can simply go into a Word doc and make
changes themselves.

  


I thought they might try exporting to Word so the engineers could (with
Track Changes on) make edits in Word. Then the new tech writer - preferably
me ;-))) - could incorporate those changes into the Frame docs.

  


Alison

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Re: [Framers] Frame 2017 Export to Word

[Steve Rickaby]

At 22:22 -0800 19/12/17, A Craig wrote:

>I was at a job interview today and it sounds like they could really use the
>Conditional aspects of Frame in order to deliver various flavours of the
>same manuals. However, they have done without a tech writer for a while and
>like the fact that their engineers can simply go into a Word doc and make
>changes themselves.

If this is their approach, I would enquire very carefully into their attitude 
to the qualify of their documentation and what they hope to gain by having a 
full-time tech writer on board. I can see frustration ahead for you.

-- 
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[Framers] Frame 2017 Export to Word

[A Craig]

Maybe I've imaged it, but I seem to remember threads re: exporting Frame
2017 to Word? (I'm still on Frame 12)

 

Is this possible? Does it result in a usable doc (ie, is the formatting
decent?)

 

I was at a job interview today and it sounds like they could really use the
Conditional aspects of Frame in order to deliver various flavours of the
same manuals. However, they have done without a tech writer for a while and
like the fact that their engineers can simply go into a Word doc and make
changes themselves.

 

I thought they might try exporting to Word so the engineers could (with
Track Changes on) make edits in Word. Then the new tech writer - preferably
me ;-))) - could incorporate those changes into the Frame docs.

 

Alison 

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