Re: [Framers] Using Folders and Groups
Sorry if this is a repeat, but what Folder and Groups do is pretty simple... Groups are simply for organizing numerous documents in a book file since the contents can be collapsed when not being viewed. They have no effect on chapter or page numbering. Folders are for a single chapter that is broken into multiple files for various reasons (length, editing, content, etc.). The chapter number is set on the Folder, not the files; page numbers are set in the files as usual. Of course, the Folder can also be used for Volume numbering. Here is a PDF that covers common scenarios for setting up a book: http://ideastraining.com/PDFs/SettingFrameBookNumberingFrame.pdf David Creamer IDEAS Training ADOBE Authorized Instructor & Certified Expert since 1994 FrameMaker Certified since 1991, including structured XML Online, on site, and classroom training Has anyone here used folders and groups in their unstructured books? Is there any information out there on the how and when and why of using them, or when one is better used than the other? So far all I've found is the brief and pretty detail-less how to in Adobe's help files, and I want more in-depth information. I'm working on a book right now where I *think *using folders would be useful (long chapter, trying to chunk so I can keep straight what information is where and the like, because two of those sections are nearly identical except for a few words and I want to keep them identical but there are edits and additions and you know the drill), but I'm not sure if it would be or how to set it up properly and, frankly, I'm not up to trial-and-erroring today until I get it. -- Lin Sims ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Using Folders and Groups
I thought of using text insets, and if this were information being used in more than one document I'd probably go for that. But it isn't, and each section is only going to be used once in THIS document, so I don't think it gains me anything. I'm going to organize the information in separate files for now, since it is helping me get it organized and letting me see where information is missing or repeating, and means I won't be doing a ton of scrolling. :) Once it's all done, I'll just import by copying into a single file and be done with it. On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 4:15 PM, Fred Ridder wrote: > You can do what you want by using text insets since the insets do not > inherently trigger a new page like separate files listed in a book file do. > But text insets have their own set of limitations and peculiarities, > particularly if you are using cross-references. > > > -FR > > > > From: Framers > on behalf of Lin Sims > Sent: Friday, August 3, 2018 12:49 PM > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. > Subject: Re: [Framers] Using Folders and Groups > > Setting to next available didn't help; the contents of each file still > start on a new page, plus I had to create a Left master page. From the > description, it really sounded like I could use folders (or groups?) to > more finely chunk information and then have the contents follow one after > the other on a page without starting on top of the next page like DITA maps > with topics do. > > Oh, well. Would have been useful, but if there's a way to do it I don't > have time to figure it out. Guess what I'll do is complete the information > in the chunked files since that is helping me keep my thoughts straight and > the information better organized, and then either C back into a single > file for the chapter or text inset them one after the other. > > (Before someone goes there, DITA is not really an option even though I'd > like it to be. We're a small company with only 2 writers, and neither of us > knows anything like enough about DITA to set something up, nor anything at > all about how to set up Frame EDDs/DTDs to do it, plus we have no CMS, only > Box.) > > On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 12:14 PM, Mike Wickham > wrote: > > > I use folders to separate groups of files. For example, a Front Matter > > folder holds all the various title page, TOC, preface, etc. files. There > is > > a folder for each part and one to hold appendixes. At the end of the > book, > > I also have a folder set to exclude (non-printing) that holds generated > > files that list graphics used in the book, and fonts used. I recall > > playing around with groups, but numbering works very differently on them, > > so abandoned that idea. > > > > I seem to recall a blog entry that was useful in figuring out folders and > > groups way back when, but couldn't find it now. Searching on > "hierarchical > > books" turns up some hits that might help you. Looking at the latest > > edition of FrameMaker help, it looks like it gives a clearer (though not > > complete) explanation of folders and groups than way back in version 9. > > > > Mike > > > > On 8/3/2018 9:36 AM, Lin Sims wrote: > > > >> Has anyone here used folders and groups in their unstructured books? Is > >> there any information out there on the how and when and why of using > them, > >> or when one is better used than the other? > >> > >> So far all I've found is the brief and pretty detail-less how to in > >> Adobe's > >> help files, and I want more in-depth information. > >> > >> I'm working on a book right now where I *think *using folders would be > >> useful (long chapter, trying to chunk so I can keep straight what > >> information is where and the like, because two of those sections are > >> nearly > >> identical except for a few words and I want to keep them identical but > >> there are edits and additions and you know the drill), but I'm not sure > if > >> it would be or how to set it up properly and, frankly, I'm not up to > >> trial-and-erroring today until I get it. > >> > >> > > ___ > > > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > > Visit the list's homepage at https://nam03.safelinks. > protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.frameusers. > com=02%7C01%7C%7C57a88909c3534ba2bce408d5f96115eb% > 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636689117722382695= > ZnRlylUO9PMQEDdKwZnMU7OE9%2BaU9mx7UL4%2BBg4BsIg%3D=0 >
Re: [Framers] Using Folders and Groups
You can do what you want by using text insets since the insets do not inherently trigger a new page like separate files listed in a book file do. But text insets have their own set of limitations and peculiarities, particularly if you are using cross-references. -FR From: Framers on behalf of Lin Sims Sent: Friday, August 3, 2018 12:49 PM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] Using Folders and Groups Setting to next available didn't help; the contents of each file still start on a new page, plus I had to create a Left master page. From the description, it really sounded like I could use folders (or groups?) to more finely chunk information and then have the contents follow one after the other on a page without starting on top of the next page like DITA maps with topics do. Oh, well. Would have been useful, but if there's a way to do it I don't have time to figure it out. Guess what I'll do is complete the information in the chunked files since that is helping me keep my thoughts straight and the information better organized, and then either C back into a single file for the chapter or text inset them one after the other. (Before someone goes there, DITA is not really an option even though I'd like it to be. We're a small company with only 2 writers, and neither of us knows anything like enough about DITA to set something up, nor anything at all about how to set up Frame EDDs/DTDs to do it, plus we have no CMS, only Box.) On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 12:14 PM, Mike Wickham wrote: > I use folders to separate groups of files. For example, a Front Matter > folder holds all the various title page, TOC, preface, etc. files. There is > a folder for each part and one to hold appendixes. At the end of the book, > I also have a folder set to exclude (non-printing) that holds generated > files that list graphics used in the book, and fonts used. I recall > playing around with groups, but numbering works very differently on them, > so abandoned that idea. > > I seem to recall a blog entry that was useful in figuring out folders and > groups way back when, but couldn't find it now. Searching on "hierarchical > books" turns up some hits that might help you. Looking at the latest > edition of FrameMaker help, it looks like it gives a clearer (though not > complete) explanation of folders and groups than way back in version 9. > > Mike > > On 8/3/2018 9:36 AM, Lin Sims wrote: > >> Has anyone here used folders and groups in their unstructured books? Is >> there any information out there on the how and when and why of using them, >> or when one is better used than the other? >> >> So far all I've found is the brief and pretty detail-less how to in >> Adobe's >> help files, and I want more in-depth information. >> >> I'm working on a book right now where I *think *using folders would be >> useful (long chapter, trying to chunk so I can keep straight what >> information is where and the like, because two of those sections are >> nearly >> identical except for a few words and I want to keep them identical but >> there are edits and additions and you know the drill), but I'm not sure if >> it would be or how to set it up properly and, frankly, I'm not up to >> trial-and-erroring today until I get it. >> >> > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.frameusers.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7C57a88909c3534ba2bce408d5f96115eb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636689117722382695sdata=ZnRlylUO9PMQEDdKwZnMU7OE9%2BaU9mx7UL4%2BBg4BsIg%3Dreserved=0 > Archives located at > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Ffrdata=02%7C01%7C%7C57a88909c3534ba2bce408d5f96115eb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636689117722382695sdata=2jx9JZNzxYu7JZAYb3zETY1d6EOHl1IdT7Jxb12l%2BSs%3Dreserved=0 > amers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.frameusers.com%2Flidata=02%7C01%7C%7C57a88909c3534ba2bce408d5f96115eb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636689117722382695sdata=v53ff%2FiyKrRzu0uVOLBlYlUGw86hixooukUJEZ1YPvI%3Dreserved=0 > stinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > -- Lin Sims ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.frameusers.c
Re: [Framers] Using Folders and Groups
Yes, I'd pretty much come to that conclusion about starting on new pages for each file, Peter. Disappointing, but not unexpected. It's going to play hob with xrefs, but getting this organized in my head is currently far more valuable. Once it's organized and I have the document written, I'll put it back into one file since I only anticipate minor updates. On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 2:05 PM, Peter Gold wrote: > This is a great way to organize content, but individual documents require > new page starts in printed output. > > One FrameMaker technique that may help is creating container documents with > import-by-reference content. > > HTH. > > On Aug 3, 2018 11:49 AM, "Lin Sims" wrote: > > Setting to next available didn't help; the contents of each file still > start on a new page, plus I had to create a Left master page. From the > description, it really sounded like I could use folders (or groups?) to > more finely chunk information and then have the contents follow one after > the other on a page without starting on top of the next page like DITA maps > with topics do. > > Oh, well. Would have been useful, but if there's a way to do it I don't > have time to figure it out. Guess what I'll do is complete the information > in the chunked files since that is helping me keep my thoughts straight and > the information better organized, and then either C back into a single > file for the chapter or text inset them one after the other. > > (Before someone goes there, DITA is not really an option even though I'd > like it to be. We're a small company with only 2 writers, and neither of us > knows anything like enough about DITA to set something up, nor anything at > all about how to set up Frame EDDs/DTDs to do it, plus we have no CMS, only > Box.) > > On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 12:14 PM, Mike Wickham > wrote: > > > I use folders to separate groups of files. For example, a Front Matter > > folder holds all the various title page, TOC, preface, etc. files. There > is > > a folder for each part and one to hold appendixes. At the end of the > book, > > I also have a folder set to exclude (non-printing) that holds generated > > files that list graphics used in the book, and fonts used. I recall > > playing around with groups, but numbering works very differently on them, > > so abandoned that idea. > > > > I seem to recall a blog entry that was useful in figuring out folders and > > groups way back when, but couldn't find it now. Searching on > "hierarchical > > books" turns up some hits that might help you. Looking at the latest > > edition of FrameMaker help, it looks like it gives a clearer (though not > > complete) explanation of folders and groups than way back in version 9. > > > > Mike > > > > On 8/3/2018 9:36 AM, Lin Sims wrote: > > > >> Has anyone here used folders and groups in their unstructured books? Is > >> there any information out there on the how and when and why of using > them, > >> or when one is better used than the other? > >> > >> So far all I've found is the brief and pretty detail-less how to in > >> Adobe's > >> help files, and I want more in-depth information. > >> > >> I'm working on a book right now where I *think *using folders would be > >> useful (long chapter, trying to chunk so I can keep straight what > >> information is where and the like, because two of those sections are > >> nearly > >> identical except for a few words and I want to keep them identical but > >> there are edits and additions and you know the drill), but I'm not sure > if > >> it would be or how to set it up properly and, frankly, I'm not up to > >> trial-and-erroring today until I get it. > >> > >> > > ___ > > > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > > Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/fr > > amers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > > Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/li > > stinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > > > > > > -- > Lin Sims > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/ > framers%40lists.frameusers. > com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/ > listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/ > framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/ >
Re: [Framers] Using Folders and Groups
This is a great way to organize content, but individual documents require new page starts in printed output. One FrameMaker technique that may help is creating container documents with import-by-reference content. HTH. On Aug 3, 2018 11:49 AM, "Lin Sims" wrote: Setting to next available didn't help; the contents of each file still start on a new page, plus I had to create a Left master page. From the description, it really sounded like I could use folders (or groups?) to more finely chunk information and then have the contents follow one after the other on a page without starting on top of the next page like DITA maps with topics do. Oh, well. Would have been useful, but if there's a way to do it I don't have time to figure it out. Guess what I'll do is complete the information in the chunked files since that is helping me keep my thoughts straight and the information better organized, and then either C back into a single file for the chapter or text inset them one after the other. (Before someone goes there, DITA is not really an option even though I'd like it to be. We're a small company with only 2 writers, and neither of us knows anything like enough about DITA to set something up, nor anything at all about how to set up Frame EDDs/DTDs to do it, plus we have no CMS, only Box.) On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 12:14 PM, Mike Wickham wrote: > I use folders to separate groups of files. For example, a Front Matter > folder holds all the various title page, TOC, preface, etc. files. There is > a folder for each part and one to hold appendixes. At the end of the book, > I also have a folder set to exclude (non-printing) that holds generated > files that list graphics used in the book, and fonts used. I recall > playing around with groups, but numbering works very differently on them, > so abandoned that idea. > > I seem to recall a blog entry that was useful in figuring out folders and > groups way back when, but couldn't find it now. Searching on "hierarchical > books" turns up some hits that might help you. Looking at the latest > edition of FrameMaker help, it looks like it gives a clearer (though not > complete) explanation of folders and groups than way back in version 9. > > Mike > > On 8/3/2018 9:36 AM, Lin Sims wrote: > >> Has anyone here used folders and groups in their unstructured books? Is >> there any information out there on the how and when and why of using them, >> or when one is better used than the other? >> >> So far all I've found is the brief and pretty detail-less how to in >> Adobe's >> help files, and I want more in-depth information. >> >> I'm working on a book right now where I *think *using folders would be >> useful (long chapter, trying to chunk so I can keep straight what >> information is where and the like, because two of those sections are >> nearly >> identical except for a few words and I want to keep them identical but >> there are edits and additions and you know the drill), but I'm not sure if >> it would be or how to set it up properly and, frankly, I'm not up to >> trial-and-erroring today until I get it. >> >> > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/fr > amers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/li > stinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > -- Lin Sims ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers. com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/ listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Using Folders and Groups
I use folders to separate groups of files. For example, a Front Matter folder holds all the various title page, TOC, preface, etc. files. There is a folder for each part and one to hold appendixes. At the end of the book, I also have a folder set to exclude (non-printing) that holds generated files that list graphics used in the book, and fonts used. I recall playing around with groups, but numbering works very differently on them, so abandoned that idea. I seem to recall a blog entry that was useful in figuring out folders and groups way back when, but couldn't find it now. Searching on "hierarchical books" turns up some hits that might help you. Looking at the latest edition of FrameMaker help, it looks like it gives a clearer (though not complete) explanation of folders and groups than way back in version 9. Mike On 8/3/2018 9:36 AM, Lin Sims wrote: Has anyone here used folders and groups in their unstructured books? Is there any information out there on the how and when and why of using them, or when one is better used than the other? So far all I've found is the brief and pretty detail-less how to in Adobe's help files, and I want more in-depth information. I'm working on a book right now where I *think *using folders would be useful (long chapter, trying to chunk so I can keep straight what information is where and the like, because two of those sections are nearly identical except for a few words and I want to keep them identical but there are edits and additions and you know the drill), but I'm not sure if it would be or how to set it up properly and, frankly, I'm not up to trial-and-erroring today until I get it. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Using Folders and Groups
I use folders and groups as a regular part of maintaining hundreds of individual documents residing in over 60 books. Some of the documents are versions of others, so those documents are nested under a folder. I also nest individual Lists of Markers and other supporting files in a folder with the parent doc. If you select a folder in a book and then select File>Print Selected Files, yes the documents in that folder will print as a single file. Pagination of the files is set at the document level, not the folder. It is easy enough to experiment with folders using your own files. You won't break anything. If you decide that folders won't do what you need done, then you can simply drag the documents out of the folders and back into the regular book file. Then delete the folders. Carol At 09:57 AM 8/3/2018, Lin Sims wrote: One of the things I'd like to know is if it is possible to have everything in a folder print to PDF as if it were a single chapter. That is to say, I don't want each file in a folder (or group) to start on its own page. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Using Folders and Groups
You can select an arbitrary number of files in the book, and then paginate them so that they use the 1st Page Side: Next Available setting. I would have thought you could select the Group/Folder item and set the pagination for everything in that group w/o having to highlight them all, but Pagination is grayed out when I try that. On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 11:57 AM, Lin Sims wrote: > One of the things I'd like to know is if it is possible to have everything > in a folder print to PDF as if it were a single chapter. That is to say, I > don't want each file in a folder (or group) to start on its own page. The > Adobe help doesn't address this. I'm betting the answer is "you can't do > that", but I figured I'd ask. > > On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 10:48 AM, Doug wrote: > > > I use them, though I'm not sure how useful they are. I just started > using > > Frame 2017 after a long absence...I last used version 7. I do like how > you > > can collapse the folders/groups, though. > > > > On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 10:36 AM, Lin Sims wrote: > > > > > Has anyone here used folders and groups in their unstructured books? Is > > > there any information out there on the how and when and why of using > > them, > > > or when one is better used than the other? > > > > > > So far all I've found is the brief and pretty detail-less how to in > > Adobe's > > > help files, and I want more in-depth information. > > > > > > I'm working on a book right now where I *think *using folders would be > > > useful (long chapter, trying to chunk so I can keep straight what > > > information is where and the like, because two of those sections are > > nearly > > > identical except for a few words and I want to keep them identical but > > > there are edits and additions and you know the drill), but I'm not sure > > if > > > it would be or how to set it up properly and, frankly, I'm not up to > > > trial-and-erroring today until I get it. > > > > > > -- > > > Lin Sims > > > ___ > > > > > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > > > > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > > > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > > > Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/ > > > framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > > > Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/ > > > listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > > > > > ___ > > > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > > Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/ > > framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > > Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/ > > listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > > > > > > -- > Lin Sims > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/ > framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/ > listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Using Folders and Groups
One of the things I'd like to know is if it is possible to have everything in a folder print to PDF as if it were a single chapter. That is to say, I don't want each file in a folder (or group) to start on its own page. The Adobe help doesn't address this. I'm betting the answer is "you can't do that", but I figured I'd ask. On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 10:48 AM, Doug wrote: > I use them, though I'm not sure how useful they are. I just started using > Frame 2017 after a long absence...I last used version 7. I do like how you > can collapse the folders/groups, though. > > On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 10:36 AM, Lin Sims wrote: > > > Has anyone here used folders and groups in their unstructured books? Is > > there any information out there on the how and when and why of using > them, > > or when one is better used than the other? > > > > So far all I've found is the brief and pretty detail-less how to in > Adobe's > > help files, and I want more in-depth information. > > > > I'm working on a book right now where I *think *using folders would be > > useful (long chapter, trying to chunk so I can keep straight what > > information is where and the like, because two of those sections are > nearly > > identical except for a few words and I want to keep them identical but > > there are edits and additions and you know the drill), but I'm not sure > if > > it would be or how to set it up properly and, frankly, I'm not up to > > trial-and-erroring today until I get it. > > > > -- > > Lin Sims > > ___ > > > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > > Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/ > > framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > > Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/ > > listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > > > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/ > framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/ > listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > -- Lin Sims ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Using Folders and Groups
I use them, though I'm not sure how useful they are. I just started using Frame 2017 after a long absence...I last used version 7. I do like how you can collapse the folders/groups, though. On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 10:36 AM, Lin Sims wrote: > Has anyone here used folders and groups in their unstructured books? Is > there any information out there on the how and when and why of using them, > or when one is better used than the other? > > So far all I've found is the brief and pretty detail-less how to in Adobe's > help files, and I want more in-depth information. > > I'm working on a book right now where I *think *using folders would be > useful (long chapter, trying to chunk so I can keep straight what > information is where and the like, because two of those sections are nearly > identical except for a few words and I want to keep them identical but > there are edits and additions and you know the drill), but I'm not sure if > it would be or how to set it up properly and, frankly, I'm not up to > trial-and-erroring today until I get it. > > -- > Lin Sims > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/ > framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/ > listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
[Framers] Using Folders and Groups
Has anyone here used folders and groups in their unstructured books? Is there any information out there on the how and when and why of using them, or when one is better used than the other? So far all I've found is the brief and pretty detail-less how to in Adobe's help files, and I want more in-depth information. I'm working on a book right now where I *think *using folders would be useful (long chapter, trying to chunk so I can keep straight what information is where and the like, because two of those sections are nearly identical except for a few words and I want to keep them identical but there are edits and additions and you know the drill), but I'm not sure if it would be or how to set it up properly and, frankly, I'm not up to trial-and-erroring today until I get it. -- Lin Sims ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
