RE: Change color of interface

2010-03-29 Thread Lou Martindale
Thanks to all who responded to my cry for help. I will follow up on all
suggestions, but for a quick fix for short term I decided to try adjusting
the UI brightness and it does make the toolbars, icons, etc. easier to read.
I'll just try to ignore the grayness. Sure makes me wonder what was Adobe
thinking when they choose gray as their cross platform corporate look. 

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RE: Change color of interface

2010-03-29 Thread Fred Ridder

Lou Martindale wrote:

 

 Thanks to all who responded to my cry for help. I will follow up on all
 suggestions, but for a quick fix for short term I decided to try adjusting
 the UI brightness and it does make the toolbars, icons, etc. easier to read.
 I'll just try to ignore the grayness. Sure makes me wonder what was Adobe
 thinking when they choose gray as their cross platform corporate look. 


I'm sure it relates to the fact that Adobe flagship products (which generate 
some 75% of their revenue if I remember the numbers from an Adobe annual 
report) are applications for generating and manipulating graphics and images, 
where you don't want the color of GUI elements to affect the perception of the 
colors of the graphics being worked on. GUI neutrality is necessary for those 
kinds of tools; and since it doesn't really matter for text-oriented apps, 
consistency won out.

-Fred Ridder
  
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Re: Change color of interface

2010-03-29 Thread Whites
Be that as it may, Adobe's desire for conformity should not deprive  
users of the ability to set their own color schemes. Just a little  
matter of user control that the Adobe mandarins of design seem  
unwilling to surrender.


That said, it would be a welcome addition to the entire Windows  
interface to allow users to assign different color schemes to  
different apps.  I would like to be able to distinguish my FM windows  
from my Visio or Excel or what have you by color instead of all apps  
being presented in a tuberculous ward gray.


So yes, IMHO the CS splash screens are now uniformly pathetically ugly.

Will White
Monrovia CA



Lou Martindale wrote:



Thanks to all who responded to my cry for help. I will follow up on  
all
suggestions, but for a quick fix for short term I decided to try  
adjusting
the UI brightness and it does make the toolbars, icons, etc. easier  
to read.
I'll just try to ignore the grayness. Sure makes me wonder what was  
Adobe
thinking when they choose gray as their cross platform corporate  
look.



I'm sure it relates to the fact that Adobe flagship products (which  
generate some 75% of their revenue if I remember the numbers from an  
Adobe annual report) are applications for generating and  
manipulating graphics and images, where you don't want the color of  
GUI elements to affect the perception of the colors of the graphics  
being worked on. GUI neutrality is necessary for those kinds of  
tools; and since it doesn't really matter for text-oriented apps,  
consistency won out.


-Fred Ridder

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Change color of interface

2010-03-29 Thread Lou Martindale
Thanks to all who responded to my cry for help. I will follow up on all
suggestions, but for a quick fix for short term I decided to try adjusting
the UI brightness and it does make the toolbars, icons, etc. easier to read.
I'll just try to ignore the grayness. Sure makes me wonder what was Adobe
thinking when they choose gray as their cross platform corporate look. 

Lou Martindale 
Technical Writer/Web Master/Marketing Design 
PdMA Corporation - www.pdma.com 
lou at pdma.com 
813-621-6463 ext. 126 




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Change color of interface

2010-03-29 Thread Fred Ridder

Lou Martindale wrote:



> Thanks to all who responded to my cry for help. I will follow up on all
> suggestions, but for a quick fix for short term I decided to try adjusting
> the UI brightness and it does make the toolbars, icons, etc. easier to read.
> I'll just try to ignore the grayness. Sure makes me wonder what was Adobe
> thinking when they choose gray as their cross platform corporate look. 


I'm sure it relates to the fact that Adobe flagship products (which generate 
some 75% of their revenue if I remember the numbers from an Adobe annual 
report) are applications for generating and manipulating graphics and images, 
where you don't want the color of GUI elements to affect the perception of the 
colors of the graphics being worked on. GUI neutrality is necessary for those 
kinds of tools; and since it doesn't really matter for text-oriented apps, 
consistency won out.

-Fred Ridder



Change color of interface

2010-03-29 Thread Whites
Be that as it may, Adobe's desire for conformity should not deprive  
users of the ability to set their own color schemes. Just a little  
matter of user control that the Adobe mandarins of design seem  
unwilling to surrender.

That said, it would be a welcome addition to the entire Windows  
interface to allow users to assign different color schemes to  
different apps.  I would like to be able to distinguish my FM windows  
from my Visio or Excel or what have you by color instead of all apps  
being presented in a tuberculous ward gray.

So yes, IMHO the CS splash screens are now uniformly pathetically ugly.

Will White
Monrovia CA

>
> Lou Martindale wrote:
>
>
>
>> Thanks to all who responded to my cry for help. I will follow up on  
>> all
>> suggestions, but for a quick fix for short term I decided to try  
>> adjusting
>> the UI brightness and it does make the toolbars, icons, etc. easier  
>> to read.
>> I'll just try to ignore the grayness. Sure makes me wonder what was  
>> Adobe
>> thinking when they choose gray as their cross platform corporate  
>> look.
>
>
> I'm sure it relates to the fact that Adobe flagship products (which  
> generate some 75% of their revenue if I remember the numbers from an  
> Adobe annual report) are applications for generating and  
> manipulating graphics and images, where you don't want the color of  
> GUI elements to affect the perception of the colors of the graphics  
> being worked on. GUI neutrality is necessary for those kinds of  
> tools; and since it doesn't really matter for text-oriented apps,  
> consistency won out.
>
> -Fred Ridder
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Frink: Well, sure, the Frinkiac-7 looks impressive, don't
touch it, but I predict that within 100 years, computers
will be twice as powerful, 10,000 times larger, and so
expensive that only the five richest kings of Europe will
own them.
Apu:   Could it be used for dating?
+++






RE: Change color of interface

2010-03-28 Thread Combs, Richard
Lou Martindale wrote:
 
 Recently I upgraded from Frame 6 to Frame 9. I am having a lot of problems,
 both mental and physical, working with a gray screen. The icons and text
 seem to fade into the screen.  The document is in full living color, but
 the
 background (toolbar, pods, menu bar, status bar, etc.) are all in dull,
 drab, depressing gray. I'd like to change it to normal windows
 configuration. But how to do that is a mystery to me.

Check out Klaus Daube's Enhanced Toolbar for FM9 
(http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker55.html). It's free, but requires the $25 
MicroType ToolbarPlus Express (http://www.microtype.com/ToolbarPlus.html), 
which I highly recommend. 

I'm still using FM7.2 for production work and haven't had a chance to try 
Klaus's Enhanced Toolbar for FM9, but it looks like it will help -- at least, 
it restores colors to the icons, which strikes me as a big improvement.


Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
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Change color of interface

2010-03-28 Thread Combs, Richard
Lou Martindale wrote:

> Recently I upgraded from Frame 6 to Frame 9. I am having a lot of problems,
> both mental and physical, working with a gray screen. The icons and text
> seem to fade into the screen.  The document is in full living color, but
> the
> background (toolbar, pods, menu bar, status bar, etc.) are all in dull,
> drab, depressing gray. I'd like to change it to normal windows
> configuration. But how to do that is a mystery to me.

Check out Klaus Daube's Enhanced Toolbar for FM9 
(http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker55.html). It's free, but requires the $25 
MicroType ToolbarPlus Express (http://www.microtype.com/ToolbarPlus.html), 
which I highly recommend. 

I'm still using FM7.2 for production work and haven't had a chance to try 
Klaus's Enhanced Toolbar for FM9, but it looks like it will help -- at least, 
it restores colors to the icons, which strikes me as a big improvement.


Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-777-0436
--







Re: Change color of interface

2010-03-27 Thread Michael Müller-Hillebrand
Lou,

The only option you have is to change the UI Brightness, i.e. the type of 
gray used for the UI. This option can be found at

File  Preferences  Interface

Especially for beamer presentations you have to have the lightest gray, which 
may also pull you out of your depression ;-)

- Michael Müller-Hillebrand

Am 26.03.2010 um 20:15 schrieb Lou Martindale:

 This is such a mundane request I hate to ask, but I've searched and searched
 for an answer. I'm hoping someone on this vast list can help me. 
 
 Recently I upgraded from Frame 6 to Frame 9. I am having a lot of problems,
 both mental and physical, working with a gray screen. The icons and text
 seem to fade into the screen.  The document is in full living color, but the
 background (toolbar, pods, menu bar, status bar, etc.) are all in dull,
 drab, depressing gray. 
--
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Re: Change color of interface

2010-03-27 Thread Mike Wickham
Recently I upgraded from Frame 6 to Frame 9. I am having a lot of 
problems,

both mental and physical, working with a gray screen. The icons and text
seem to fade into the screen.  The document is in full living color, but 
the

background (toolbar, pods, menu bar, status bar, etc.) are all in dull,
drab, depressing gray. I'd like to change it to normal windows
configuration. But how to do that is a mystery to me.


The colors can be changed manually, but not as a preferences setting. I 
haven't tried this, but you might want to check out Klause Daube's site: 
http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker55.html. He has created a plugin that does 
changes the colors (Enhanced Toolbar 9). It builds on Shlomo Perets' plugin 
(FM ToolbarPlus Express) (http://www.microtype.com/ToolbarPlus.html). I do 
use Shlomo's plugin. It's very useful.


Mike Wickham


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Change color of interface

2010-03-27 Thread Alan T Litchfield
Lou, I think you are out of luck. That is the Adobe corporate colour  
scheme and now conforms to the other Adobe applications.

I hope to stand corrected however.

Alan

On 27/03/2010, at 8:15 AM, Lou Martindale wrote:

> This is such a mundane request I hate to ask, but I've searched and  
> searched
> for an answer. I'm hoping someone on this vast list can help me.
>
> Recently I upgraded from Frame 6 to Frame 9. I am having a lot of  
> problems,
> both mental and physical, working with a gray screen. The icons and  
> text
> seem to fade into the screen.  The document is in full living color,  
> but the
> background (toolbar, pods, menu bar, status bar, etc.) are all in  
> dull,
> drab, depressing gray. I'd like to change it to normal windows
> configuration. But how to do that is a mystery to me.
>
> I am running Windows XP.
>

--
Alan T Litchfield
AlphaByte
PO Box 141, Auckland, 1140
New Zealand
http://www.alphabyte.co.nz
http://www.alphabyte.co.nz/beatrice



Change color of interface

2010-03-27 Thread Michael Müller-Hillebrand
Lou,

The only option you have is to change the "UI Brightness", i.e. the type of 
gray used for the UI. This option can be found at

File > Preferences > Interface

Especially for beamer presentations you have to have the lightest gray, which 
may also pull you out of your depression ;-)

- Michael M?ller-Hillebrand

Am 26.03.2010 um 20:15 schrieb Lou Martindale:

> This is such a mundane request I hate to ask, but I've searched and searched
> for an answer. I'm hoping someone on this vast list can help me. 
> 
> Recently I upgraded from Frame 6 to Frame 9. I am having a lot of problems,
> both mental and physical, working with a gray screen. The icons and text
> seem to fade into the screen.  The document is in full living color, but the
> background (toolbar, pods, menu bar, status bar, etc.) are all in dull,
> drab, depressing gray. 
--
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Change color of interface

2010-03-27 Thread Mike Wickham
> Recently I upgraded from Frame 6 to Frame 9. I am having a lot of 
> problems,
> both mental and physical, working with a gray screen. The icons and text
> seem to fade into the screen.  The document is in full living color, but 
> the
> background (toolbar, pods, menu bar, status bar, etc.) are all in dull,
> drab, depressing gray. I'd like to change it to normal windows
> configuration. But how to do that is a mystery to me.

The colors can be changed manually, but not as a preferences setting. I 
haven't tried this, but you might want to check out Klause Daube's site: 
http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker55.html. He has created a plugin that does 
changes the colors (Enhanced Toolbar 9). It builds on Shlomo Perets' plugin 
(FM ToolbarPlus Express) (http://www.microtype.com/ToolbarPlus.html). I do 
use Shlomo's plugin. It's very useful.

Mike Wickham




Change color of interface

2010-03-26 Thread Lou Martindale
This is such a mundane request I hate to ask, but I've searched and searched
for an answer. I'm hoping someone on this vast list can help me. 

Recently I upgraded from Frame 6 to Frame 9. I am having a lot of problems,
both mental and physical, working with a gray screen. The icons and text
seem to fade into the screen.  The document is in full living color, but the
background (toolbar, pods, menu bar, status bar, etc.) are all in dull,
drab, depressing gray. I'd like to change it to normal windows
configuration. But how to do that is a mystery to me. 

I am running Windows XP. 

TIA,
Lou

Lou Martindale 
Technical Writer/Web Master/Marketing Design 
PdMA Corporation - www.pdma.com 
l...@pdma.com 
813-621-6463 ext. 126 




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Re: Change color of interface

2010-03-26 Thread Alan T Litchfield
Lou, I think you are out of luck. That is the Adobe corporate colour  
scheme and now conforms to the other Adobe applications.


I hope to stand corrected however.

Alan

On 27/03/2010, at 8:15 AM, Lou Martindale wrote:

This is such a mundane request I hate to ask, but I've searched and  
searched

for an answer. I'm hoping someone on this vast list can help me.

Recently I upgraded from Frame 6 to Frame 9. I am having a lot of  
problems,
both mental and physical, working with a gray screen. The icons and  
text
seem to fade into the screen.  The document is in full living color,  
but the
background (toolbar, pods, menu bar, status bar, etc.) are all in  
dull,

drab, depressing gray. I'd like to change it to normal windows
configuration. But how to do that is a mystery to me.

I am running Windows XP.



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AlphaByte
PO Box 141, Auckland, 1140
New Zealand
http://www.alphabyte.co.nz
http://www.alphabyte.co.nz/beatrice

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Change color of interface

2010-03-26 Thread Lou Martindale
This is such a mundane request I hate to ask, but I've searched and searched
for an answer. I'm hoping someone on this vast list can help me. 

Recently I upgraded from Frame 6 to Frame 9. I am having a lot of problems,
both mental and physical, working with a gray screen. The icons and text
seem to fade into the screen.  The document is in full living color, but the
background (toolbar, pods, menu bar, status bar, etc.) are all in dull,
drab, depressing gray. I'd like to change it to normal windows
configuration. But how to do that is a mystery to me. 

I am running Windows XP. 

TIA,
Lou

Lou Martindale 
Technical Writer/Web Master/Marketing Design 
PdMA Corporation - www.pdma.com 
lou at pdma.com 
813-621-6463 ext. 126 




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