Cross references without active hyperlinks in PDF files

2008-12-12 Thread Shlomo Perets
Doug,

You wrote:

>Is there a way to define a cross-reference format such that this cross
>reference does not generate an active hyperlink in a PDF file?
...

Only option within FrameMaker is to take advantage of the limitation/bug
whereby cross-references in text insets are not converted to active links.
As mentioned by Lin and Richard, it is possible to store multiple insets
in a single FM file by having multiple text frames with separate flows.

With my FrameMaker-to-Acrobat TimeSavers add-on, it is possible
to turn on a function that "disables" external cross-references pointing
to a specific file/path (link is removed but text/formatting remains 
intact) --
see http://www.microtype.com/TimeSavers.html (Links/General screen;
"Suppress x-refs when path or file name includes: .").

Nothing has to be changed in the FM files or book; only a string
included in the path or file name has to be specified in the settings.

For example, the source FM file to which your cross-references
point can have a "_NoLink" suffix, or you may store the FM file in
a folder that has "_NoLink" in its name.


Shlomo Perets

MicroType * http://www.microtype.com
FrameMaker training & consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers

"Improve Your FrameMaker Skills" live web-based training sessions



Cross references without active hyperlinks in PDF files

2008-12-11 Thread Doug
Hello:

Is there a way to define a cross-reference format such that this cross
reference does not generate an active hyperlink in a PDF file?

I use cross references as a convenient way to reuse content from a
single location.  I've defined these cross references to show up in
black text whereas the cross references that I want people to link to
are defined to show up in blue text.  I figured that readers will then
know that blue text is a hyperlink and only try to click on that text.
 No one has ever complained -- until yesterday, when an employee
noticed the hidden link.  Text insets aren't really practical
because you can only put one pience of content per file.  Variables
might be an option since the reused text is relatively short in my
case, but variables seem a lot more error-prone to me, as I'd always
have to remember to reimport the variable definitions to all the
documents in my book, whereas cross references update automatically.

If anyone knows a way to create cross references that don't convert to
hyperlinks, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks.

Doug

p.s.  I'm using unstructured FrameMaker, version 7.2.
___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com.

Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com.

To unsubscribe send a blank email to 
framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com

Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.


Re: Cross references without active hyperlinks in PDF files

2008-12-11 Thread Lin Sims
Three options for repeating text:

1. You can have more than one text inset in a file so long as you put
each one in its own uniquely named flow.
2. If you like the idea of variables, why not add them to the template
file you use to create new documents? No reimporting needed.
3. Get the Autotext plugin from Silicon Graphics.

Text insets and variables will let you change content and have it
automatically update.

On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Doug dougsfwri...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello:

 Is there a way to define a cross-reference format such that this cross
 reference does not generate an active hyperlink in a PDF file?

 I use cross references as a convenient way to reuse content from a
 single location.  I've defined these cross references to show up in
 black text whereas the cross references that I want people to link to
 are defined to show up in blue text.  I figured that readers will then
 know that blue text is a hyperlink and only try to click on that text.
  No one has ever complained -- until yesterday, when an employee
 noticed the hidden link.  Text insets aren't really practical
 because you can only put one pience of content per file.  Variables
 might be an option since the reused text is relatively short in my
 case, but variables seem a lot more error-prone to me, as I'd always
 have to remember to reimport the variable definitions to all the
 documents in my book, whereas cross references update automatically.

 If anyone knows a way to create cross references that don't convert to
 hyperlinks, I'd appreciate it.

 Thanks.

 Doug

 p.s.  I'm using unstructured FrameMaker, version 7.2.
___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com.

Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com.

To unsubscribe send a blank email to 
framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com

Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.


RE: Cross references without active hyperlinks in PDF files

2008-12-11 Thread Combs, Richard
Doug wrote: 
 
 I use cross references as a convenient way to reuse content from a
 single location.  I've defined these cross references to show up in
 black text whereas the cross references that I want people to link to
 are defined to show up in blue text.  I figured that readers will then
 know that blue text is a hyperlink and only try to click on that text.
  No one has ever complained -- until yesterday, when an employee
 noticed the hidden link.  Text insets aren't really practical
 because you can only put one pience of content per file.  snip

Wrong. Each text inset (if it's from an FM file, not a text file) must
be a complete text _flow_, but a file can contain many flows. I have one
FM file that contains about 40 or 50 text flows used as text insets. 

If the snippets you're reusing are short, you can even put them in text
frames on a reference page. 

Richard


Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-777-0436
--










___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com.

Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com.

To unsubscribe send a blank email to 
framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com

Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.


Re: Cross references without active hyperlinks in PDF files

2008-12-11 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Doug,

I recently solved the exact problem for a client using FrameScript. The 
script does the following:

1) Backs up the book components.

2) Converts the specified cross-reference formats to plain text.

3) Restores the backed up components, thus restoring the cross-references.

It all happens in seconds. If you are interested in a solution like this, 
please contact me offlist. Thanks.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


 Hello:

 Is there a way to define a cross-reference format such that this cross
 reference does not generate an active hyperlink in a PDF file?

 I use cross references as a convenient way to reuse content from a
 single location.  I've defined these cross references to show up in
 black text whereas the cross references that I want people to link to
 are defined to show up in blue text.  I figured that readers will then
 know that blue text is a hyperlink and only try to click on that text.
 No one has ever complained -- until yesterday, when an employee
 noticed the hidden link.  Text insets aren't really practical
 because you can only put one pience of content per file.  Variables
 might be an option since the reused text is relatively short in my
 case, but variables seem a lot more error-prone to me, as I'd always
 have to remember to reimport the variable definitions to all the
 documents in my book, whereas cross references update automatically.

 If anyone knows a way to create cross references that don't convert to
 hyperlinks, I'd appreciate it.

 Thanks.

 Doug

 p.s.  I'm using unstructured FrameMaker, version 7.2.

___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com.

Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com.

To unsubscribe send a blank email to 
framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com

Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.


Re: Cross references without active hyperlinks in PDF files

2008-12-11 Thread Shlomo Perets
Doug,

You wrote:

Is there a way to define a cross-reference format such that this cross
reference does not generate an active hyperlink in a PDF file?
...

Only option within FrameMaker is to take advantage of the limitation/bug
whereby cross-references in text insets are not converted to active links.
As mentioned by Lin and Richard, it is possible to store multiple insets
in a single FM file by having multiple text frames with separate flows.

With my FrameMaker-to-Acrobat TimeSavers add-on, it is possible
to turn on a function that disables external cross-references pointing
to a specific file/path (link is removed but text/formatting remains 
intact) --
see http://www.microtype.com/TimeSavers.html (Links/General screen;
Suppress x-refs when path or file name includes: .).

Nothing has to be changed in the FM files or book; only a string
included in the path or file name has to be specified in the settings.

For example, the source FM file to which your cross-references
point can have a _NoLink suffix, or you may store the FM file in
a folder that has _NoLink in its name.


Shlomo Perets

MicroType * http://www.microtype.com
FrameMaker training  consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers

Improve Your FrameMaker Skills live web-based training sessions

___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com.

Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com.

To unsubscribe send a blank email to 
framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com

Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.


Cross references without active hyperlinks in PDF files

2008-12-11 Thread Doug
Hello:

Is there a way to define a cross-reference format such that this cross
reference does not generate an active hyperlink in a PDF file?

I use cross references as a convenient way to reuse content from a
single location.  I've defined these cross references to show up in
black text whereas the cross references that I want people to link to
are defined to show up in blue text.  I figured that readers will then
know that blue text is a hyperlink and only try to click on that text.
 No one has ever complained -- until yesterday, when an employee
noticed the "hidden" link.  Text insets aren't really practical
because you can only put one pience of content per file.  Variables
might be an option since the reused text is relatively short in my
case, but variables seem a lot more error-prone to me, as I'd always
have to remember to reimport the variable definitions to all the
documents in my book, whereas cross references update automatically.

If anyone knows a way to create cross references that don't convert to
hyperlinks, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks.

Doug

p.s.  I'm using unstructured FrameMaker, version 7.2.


Cross references without active hyperlinks in PDF files

2008-12-11 Thread Lin Sims
Three options for repeating text:

1. You can have more than one text inset in a file so long as you put
each one in its own uniquely named flow.
2. If you like the idea of variables, why not add them to the template
file you use to create new documents? No reimporting needed.
3. Get the Autotext plugin from Silicon Graphics.

Text insets and variables will let you change content and have it
automatically update.

On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Doug  wrote:
> Hello:
>
> Is there a way to define a cross-reference format such that this cross
> reference does not generate an active hyperlink in a PDF file?
>
> I use cross references as a convenient way to reuse content from a
> single location.  I've defined these cross references to show up in
> black text whereas the cross references that I want people to link to
> are defined to show up in blue text.  I figured that readers will then
> know that blue text is a hyperlink and only try to click on that text.
>  No one has ever complained -- until yesterday, when an employee
> noticed the "hidden" link.  Text insets aren't really practical
> because you can only put one pience of content per file.  Variables
> might be an option since the reused text is relatively short in my
> case, but variables seem a lot more error-prone to me, as I'd always
> have to remember to reimport the variable definitions to all the
> documents in my book, whereas cross references update automatically.
>
> If anyone knows a way to create cross references that don't convert to
> hyperlinks, I'd appreciate it.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Doug
>
> p.s.  I'm using unstructured FrameMaker, version 7.2.


Cross references without active hyperlinks in PDF files

2008-12-11 Thread Combs, Richard
Doug wrote: 

> I use cross references as a convenient way to reuse content from a
> single location.  I've defined these cross references to show up in
> black text whereas the cross references that I want people to link to
> are defined to show up in blue text.  I figured that readers will then
> know that blue text is a hyperlink and only try to click on that text.
>  No one has ever complained -- until yesterday, when an employee
> noticed the "hidden" link.  Text insets aren't really practical
> because you can only put one pience of content per file.  

Wrong. Each text inset (if it's from an FM file, not a text file) must
be a complete text _flow_, but a file can contain many flows. I have one
FM file that contains about 40 or 50 text flows used as text insets. 

If the snippets you're reusing are short, you can even put them in text
frames on a reference page. 

Richard


Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-777-0436
--












Cross references without active hyperlinks in PDF files

2008-12-11 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Doug,

I recently solved the exact problem for a client using FrameScript. The 
script does the following:

1) Backs up the book components.

2) Converts the specified cross-reference formats to plain text.

3) Restores the backed up components, thus restoring the cross-references.

It all happens in seconds. If you are interested in a solution like this, 
please contact me offlist. Thanks.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


> Hello:
>
> Is there a way to define a cross-reference format such that this cross
> reference does not generate an active hyperlink in a PDF file?
>
> I use cross references as a convenient way to reuse content from a
> single location.  I've defined these cross references to show up in
> black text whereas the cross references that I want people to link to
> are defined to show up in blue text.  I figured that readers will then
> know that blue text is a hyperlink and only try to click on that text.
> No one has ever complained -- until yesterday, when an employee
> noticed the "hidden" link.  Text insets aren't really practical
> because you can only put one pience of content per file.  Variables
> might be an option since the reused text is relatively short in my
> case, but variables seem a lot more error-prone to me, as I'd always
> have to remember to reimport the variable definitions to all the
> documents in my book, whereas cross references update automatically.
>
> If anyone knows a way to create cross references that don't convert to
> hyperlinks, I'd appreciate it.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Doug
>
> p.s.  I'm using unstructured FrameMaker, version 7.2.