Re: Errant Format Removal

2014-07-03 Thread Shmuel Wolfson

By default punctuation I'm assuming you mean the bullet style.

Try making the one change in one paragraph, then clicking Apply, then 
clicking Apply All and selecting NOT to remove overrides. I think that 
the one change you made will change in all paragraphs of the style 
without removing all OTHER overrides of the paragrph style.


I'm not 100% sure of this, but I think it's correct. In the worse case 
scenario, you won't change anything in the other paragraphs of this 
style since you selected not to remove overrides, but I think that the 
one change you made is applied to all paragraphs even when you select 
NOT to remove overrides.


Please guys only small flames if I'm wrong :)

Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133


On 02-Jul-14 8:19 PM, Karen Robbins wrote:

Hi Framers,

One of our paragraph styles is a run-in heading. Mysteriously, a 
default punctuation of period space has appeared in the paragraph 
designer. In all other source files, we can only find the space!


Unfortunately, to remove the period requires removing all overrides, 
which is impossible: due to complex spacing issues (which I've asked 
about here before and determined there is no real solution), there is 
a ton of handwork to get the spacing perfect in lines with this style. 
Removal of overrides would delete all the corrected spacing. Since 
there are literally thousands of instances, and the current edition of 
this book is just a few days from publication, the time required to 
rebuild the hand spacing is simply not available.


Is there any alternate way to get rid of this punctuation without also 
removing the spacing?


Thanks very much,

Karen
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Re: Errant Format Removal

2014-07-03 Thread Karen Robbins

Hi Shmuel,

Sorry, it didn't work.:-( At least in FM 11, your method affects only 
the single pgf in which applied. Only way I've found to make it apply 
globally is by removing overrides.


There is no bullet style. In the pgf designer, pagination pane, 
under Format, the Run-in Head-Default Punctuation: field contains 
the unwanted period.


Thanks anyway,
Karen

At 6:01 PM +0300 7/3/14, Shmuel Wolfson wrote:

By default punctuation I'm assuming you mean the bullet style.

Try making the one change in one paragraph, then clicking Apply, 
then clicking Apply All and selecting NOT to remove overrides. I 
think that the one change you made will change in all paragraphs of 
the style without removing all OTHER overrides of the paragrph style.


I'm not 100% sure of this, but I think it's correct. In the worse 
case scenario, you won't change anything in the other paragraphs of 
this style since you selected not to remove overrides, but I think 
that the one change you made is applied to all paragraphs even when 
you select NOT to remove overrides.


Please guys only small flames if I'm wrong :)

Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133


On 02-Jul-14 8:19 PM, Karen Robbins wrote:

Hi Framers,

One of our paragraph styles is a run-in heading. Mysteriously, a 
default punctuation of period space has appeared in the paragraph 
designer. In all other source files, we can only find the space!


Unfortunately, to remove the period requires removing all 
overrides, which is impossible: due to complex spacing issues 
(which I've asked about here before and determined there is no real 
solution), there is a ton of handwork to get the spacing perfect in 
lines with this style. Removal of overrides would delete all the 
corrected spacing. Since there are literally thousands of 
instances, and the current edition of this book is just a few days 
from publication, the time required to rebuild the hand spacing is 
simply not available.


Is there any alternate way to get rid of this punctuation without 
also removing the spacing?


Thanks very much,

Karen
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Re: Errant Format Removal

2014-07-03 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
I'm sure you could make a script for it in Extendscript or Framescript 
to find all paragraphs with that style and to change only that aspect of 
the paragraph. It sounds like a trivial think for someone who knows one 
of the scripting languages. It might pay for you to pay someone to make 
a script for this. Or you could look around on the internet for a 
similar script.


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Technical Writer
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On 03-Jul-14 6:10 PM, Karen Robbins wrote:

Hi Shmuel,

Sorry, it didn't work.:-( At least in FM 11, your method affects only 
the single pgf in which applied. Only way I've found to make it apply 
globally is by removing overrides.


There is no bullet style. In the pgf designer, pagination pane, 
under Format, the Run-in Head-Default Punctuation: field contains 
the unwanted period.


Thanks anyway,
Karen

At 6:01 PM +0300 7/3/14, Shmuel Wolfson wrote:

By default punctuation I'm assuming you mean the bullet style.

Try making the one change in one paragraph, then clicking Apply, then 
clicking Apply All and selecting NOT to remove overrides. I think 
that the one change you made will change in all paragraphs of the 
style without removing all OTHER overrides of the paragrph style.


I'm not 100% sure of this, but I think it's correct. In the worse 
case scenario, you won't change anything in the other paragraphs of 
this style since you selected not to remove overrides, but I think 
that the one change you made is applied to all paragraphs even when 
you select NOT to remove overrides.


Please guys only small flames if I'm wrong :)

Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133


On 02-Jul-14 8:19 PM, Karen Robbins wrote:

Hi Framers,

One of our paragraph styles is a run-in heading. Mysteriously, a 
default punctuation of period space has appeared in the paragraph 
designer. In all other source files, we can only find the space!


Unfortunately, to remove the period requires removing all overrides, 
which is impossible: due to complex spacing issues (which I've asked 
about here before and determined there is no real solution), there 
is a ton of handwork to get the spacing perfect in lines with this 
style. Removal of overrides would delete all the corrected spacing. 
Since there are literally thousands of instances, and the current 
edition of this book is just a few days from publication, the time 
required to rebuild the hand spacing is simply not available.


Is there any alternate way to get rid of this punctuation without 
also removing the spacing?


Thanks very much,

Karen
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Errant Format Removal

2014-07-02 Thread Karen Robbins

Hi Framers,

One of our paragraph styles is a run-in heading. Mysteriously, a 
default punctuation of period space has appeared in the paragraph 
designer. In all other source files, we can only find the space!


Unfortunately, to remove the period requires removing all overrides, 
which is impossible: due to complex spacing issues (which I've asked 
about here before and determined there is no real solution), there is 
a ton of handwork to get the spacing perfect in lines with this 
style. Removal of overrides would delete all the corrected spacing. 
Since there are literally thousands of instances, and the current 
edition of this book is just a few days from publication, the time 
required to rebuild the hand spacing is simply not available.


Is there any alternate way to get rid of this punctuation without 
also removing the spacing?


Thanks very much,

Karen
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