External xrefs from FM to... CHM or HTML

2006-12-12 Thread Nantel, Elise

Hi Framers,

We just converted an SDK project from Robohelp to FM/ePublisher because of 
Robohelp being discontinued. This project contains two sections: a Programmer 
Guide with overviews, descriptions, and sample code, and a Reference Guide that 
is automatically generated by extracting comments in the actual C# code. The 
final product was two CHM files.

The tool used to generate the Reference Guide is NDoc and is part of the .NET 
Framework. The available output formats are HTML and HTML Help only (no XML or 
PDF).

When in Robohelp, I merged the Reference Guide CHM file into the Programmer 
Guide, and was able to do external cross-references from the Programmer Guide 
to the Reference Guide (typically on class or interface names). However, now in 
FrameMaker, how can I do that? From what I see, I can only do xrefs to another 
FM document. 

Are there plug-ins available? Or new tools to use?

Please answer me directly since I'm on the digest. 

I'm using FM 7.0 on Windows XP.

Thanks a lot.

---
Elise Nantel
Rédactrice technique/Technical Writer
Video Intelligence Solutions
Verint Systems Inc.
Phone 450 686-9000 x252
Email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.verint.com


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Re: External xrefs from FM to... CHM or HTML

2006-12-12 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 12:07:55 -0500, Nantel, Elise 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

When in Robohelp, I merged the Reference Guide CHM file 
into the Programmer Guide, and was able to do external 
cross-references from the Programmer Guide to the 
Reference Guide (typically on class or interface names). 
However, now in FrameMaker, how can I do that? From what 
I see, I can only do xrefs to another FM document.

That's correct.  Frame xrefs are only for use with other
Frame docs.  However, you can use Frame hypertext links
to anything.  To do that, you would place a Frame marker 
of type Hypertext with content like:
  message URL ./path/filename.htm#anchor
for a file in a subdirectory below the Frame file.  You
need to specify a path that will be valid from the HTML
produced for the Frame file.  To mark the hotspot for 
the link, apply a char format (which can be all as is)
to the hotspot text; the marker must also be within the
span of the char format.  See the Frame docs for more
on the many kinds of hypertext markers available.

HTH!


-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.omsys.com/
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Re: External xrefs from FM to... CHM or HTML

2006-12-12 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:14:26 -0500, Nantel, Elise 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks for this info. However, I have one question: 
Since I'm not generating the target document (HTML or 
CHM), how will I know the anchor to specify in the 
Hypertext command?

The anchor part in:
  message URL ./path/filename.htm#anchor
is optional; use it if you need to point at a paragraph
within the HTML file.  For that, open the HTML file in
Notepad and look for an anchor tag like
  a name=anchorname/a
at the start of the paragraph you want to display.

Otherwise, if you want to show the HTML file at its
top, just use:
  message URL ./path/filename.htm

References to CHMs are a little trickier:
  message URL mk:@MSITStore:Helpfile.chm::/topic.htm#anchor
The .chm must be in the same directory as the Frame-
produced HTML file, unlass you can specify an absolute 
(not relative) path to it that will be valid on all
users' machines.  Registering the .chm doesn't help.

HTH!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.omsys.com/
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RE: External xrefs from FM to... CHM or HTML

2006-12-12 Thread Nantel, Elise

Jeremy,

Thanks for this info. However, I have one question: Since I'm not generating 
the target document (HTML or CHM), how will I know the anchor to specify in the 
Hypertext command?

Elise

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy H. Griffith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 12 décembre 2006 15:03
To: Nantel, Elise
Cc: framers@FrameUsers.com
Subject: Re: External xrefs from FM to... CHM or HTML

On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 12:07:55 -0500, Nantel, Elise 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

When in Robohelp, I merged the Reference Guide CHM file 
into the Programmer Guide, and was able to do external 
cross-references from the Programmer Guide to the 
Reference Guide (typically on class or interface names). 
However, now in FrameMaker, how can I do that? From what 
I see, I can only do xrefs to another FM document.

That's correct.  Frame xrefs are only for use with other
Frame docs.  However, you can use Frame hypertext links
to anything.  To do that, you would place a Frame marker 
of type Hypertext with content like:
  message URL ./path/filename.htm#anchor
for a file in a subdirectory below the Frame file.  You
need to specify a path that will be valid from the HTML
produced for the Frame file.  To mark the hotspot for 
the link, apply a char format (which can be all as is)
to the hotspot text; the marker must also be within the
span of the char format.  See the Frame docs for more
on the many kinds of hypertext markers available.

HTH!


-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.omsys.com/

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External xrefs from FM to... CHM or HTML

2006-12-12 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 12:07:55 -0500, "Nantel, Elise" 
 wrote:

>When in Robohelp, I merged the Reference Guide CHM file 
>into the Programmer Guide, and was able to do external 
>cross-references from the Programmer Guide to the 
>Reference Guide (typically on class or interface names). 
>However, now in FrameMaker, how can I do that? From what 
>I see, I can only do xrefs to another FM document.

That's correct.  Frame xrefs are only for use with other
Frame docs.  However, you can use Frame hypertext links
to anything.  To do that, you would place a Frame marker 
of type Hypertext with content like:
  message URL ./path/filename.htm#anchor
for a file in a subdirectory below the Frame file.  You
need to specify a path that will be valid from the HTML
produced for the Frame file.  To mark the hotspot for 
the link, apply a char format (which can be all "as is")
to the hotspot text; the marker must also be within the
span of the char format.  See the Frame docs for more
on the many kinds of hypertext markers available.

HTH!


-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/



External xrefs from FM to... CHM or HTML

2006-12-12 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:14:26 -0500, "Nantel, Elise" 
 wrote:

>Thanks for this info. However, I have one question: 
>Since I'm not generating the target document (HTML or 
>CHM), how will I know the anchor to specify in the 
>Hypertext command?

The "anchor" part in:
  message URL ./path/filename.htm#anchor
is optional; use it if you need to point at a paragraph
within the HTML file.  For that, open the HTML file in
Notepad and look for an anchor tag like
  
at the start of the paragraph you want to display.

Otherwise, if you want to show the HTML file at its
top, just use:
  message URL ./path/filename.htm

References to CHMs are a little trickier:
  message URL mk:@MSITStore:Helpfile.chm::/topic.htm#anchor
The .chm must be in the same directory as the Frame-
produced HTML file, unlass you can specify an absolute 
(not relative) path to it that will be valid on all
users' machines.  Registering the .chm doesn't help.

HTH!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/



External xrefs from FM to... CHM or HTML

2006-12-12 Thread Nantel, Elise

Jeremy,

Thanks for this info. However, I have one question: Since I'm not generating 
the target document (HTML or CHM), how will I know the anchor to specify in the 
Hypertext command?

Elise

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy H. Griffith [mailto:jer...@omsys.com] 
Sent: 12 d?cembre 2006 15:03
To: Nantel, Elise
Cc: framers at FrameUsers.com
Subject: Re: External xrefs from FM to... CHM or HTML

On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 12:07:55 -0500, "Nantel, Elise" 
 wrote:

>When in Robohelp, I merged the Reference Guide CHM file 
>into the Programmer Guide, and was able to do external 
>cross-references from the Programmer Guide to the 
>Reference Guide (typically on class or interface names). 
>However, now in FrameMaker, how can I do that? From what 
>I see, I can only do xrefs to another FM document.

That's correct.  Frame xrefs are only for use with other
Frame docs.  However, you can use Frame hypertext links
to anything.  To do that, you would place a Frame marker 
of type Hypertext with content like:
  message URL ./path/filename.htm#anchor
for a file in a subdirectory below the Frame file.  You
need to specify a path that will be valid from the HTML
produced for the Frame file.  To mark the hotspot for 
the link, apply a char format (which can be all "as is")
to the hotspot text; the marker must also be within the
span of the char format.  See the Frame docs for more
on the many kinds of hypertext markers available.

HTH!


-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/

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External xrefs from FM to... CHM or HTML

2006-12-11 Thread Nantel, Elise

Hi Framers,

We just converted an SDK project from Robohelp to FM/ePublisher because of 
Robohelp being discontinued. This project contains two sections: a Programmer 
Guide with overviews, descriptions, and sample code, and a Reference Guide that 
is automatically generated by extracting comments in the actual C# code. The 
final product was two CHM files.

The tool used to generate the Reference Guide is NDoc and is part of the .NET 
Framework. The available output formats are HTML and HTML Help only (no XML or 
PDF).

When in Robohelp, I merged the Reference Guide CHM file into the Programmer 
Guide, and was able to do external cross-references from the Programmer Guide 
to the Reference Guide (typically on class or interface names). However, now in 
FrameMaker, how can I do that? From what I see, I can only do xrefs to another 
FM document. 

Are there plug-ins available? Or new tools to use?

Please answer me directly since I'm on the digest. 

I'm using FM 7.0 on Windows XP.

Thanks a lot.

---
Elise Nantel
R?dactrice technique/Technical Writer
Video Intelligence Solutions
Verint Systems Inc.
Phone 450 686-9000 x252
Email elise.nantel at verint.com
www.verint.com


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