RE: Font info disappears from x-ref format

[Harro de Jong]

 In the FM documents (FM-9) of a customer a special symbol inside an x-ref
 format loses its font information - only from time to time, but quite 
 frequently.
 The symbol is then displayed as 2 rather than the page-symbol. Refreshing the
 screen with CTRL+l does not help. The only bypass is to save the document,
 close it and open it again. It happens on XP as well as on W7.
 
 The x-ref format:
 X:CrossRef$paranum,\ U:SpecialSymbolsU:Black2Default ¶
 FontX:CrossRef\ $chapnum- $pagenumDefault ¶ Font
 
 The character formats are:
 X:CrossRef Color blue, Pair Kern
 U:SpecialSymbols   Wingdings, 9.0pt, others: as-is
 U:BlackColor black, Pair Kern
 
 Could the reason be in the accumulation of character formats?

Yes, FrameMaker has never been able to nest character tags. As soon as you 
apply the second tag, the first is seen as an override. You'll have to combine 
U:SpecialSymbols and U:Black into one new tag.

Harro de Jong
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Font info disappears from x-ref format

[Harro de Jong]

> In the FM documents (FM-9) of a customer a special symbol inside an x-ref
> format loses its font information - only from time to time, but quite 
> frequently.
> The symbol is then displayed as 2 rather than the page-symbol. Refreshing the
> screen with CTRL+l does not help. The only bypass is to save the document,
> close it and open it again. It happens on XP as well as on W7.
> 
> The x-ref format:
> <$paranum>,\ 2 Font>\ <$chapnum>- <$pagenum>
> 
> The character formats are:
> X:CrossRef Color blue, Pair Kern
> U:SpecialSymbols   Wingdings, 9.0pt, others: as-is
> U:BlackColor black, Pair Kern
> 
> Could the reason be in the accumulation of character formats?

Yes, FrameMaker has never been able to nest character tags. As soon as you 
apply the second tag, the first is seen as an override. You'll have to combine 
U:SpecialSymbols and U:Black into one new tag.

Harro de Jong
Triview

Re: Font info disappears from x-ref format

[gr...@hedgewizard.net]

Hi Klaus---
Is it safe to assume that the appearance and disappearance is not
machine-related?
(If it is, I'd look for installed fonts and system language differences.)
Are the char formats applied one on top of another (nested)? If so, there has
been issues with them getting stacked.
Also, is this just in FM, or when out put to PDF/paper/HTML?

Grant Hogarth

 On October 29, 2013 at 9:52 AM Klaus Daube fr...@daube.ch wrote:


 Dear all,

 In the FM documents (FM-9) of a customer a special symbol inside an x-ref
 format loses its font
 information - only from time to time, but quite frequently. The symbol is then
 displayed as 2
 rather than the page-symbol. Refreshing the screen with CTRL+l does not help.
 The only bypass is
 to save the document, close it and open it again. It happens on XP as well as
 on W7.

 The x-ref format:
 X:CrossRef$paranum,\ U:SpecialSymbolsU:Black2Default ¶
 FontX:CrossRef\ $chapnum-
 $pagenumDefault ¶ Font

 The character formats are:
 X:CrossRef Color blue, Pair Kern
 U:SpecialSymbols Wingdings, 9.0pt, others: as-is
 U:Black Color black, Pair Kern

 Could the reason be in the accumulation of character formats?

 Klaus Daube
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Font info disappears from x-ref format

[Klaus Daube]

Dear all,

In the FM documents (FM-9) of a customer a special symbol inside an x-ref 
format loses its font 
information - only from time to time, but quite frequently. The symbol is then 
displayed as 2 
rather than the page-symbol. Refreshing the screen with CTRL+l does not help. 
The only bypass is 
to save the document, close it and open it again. It happens on XP as well as 
on W7.

The x-ref format:
X:CrossRef$paranum,\ U:SpecialSymbolsU:Black2Default ¶ 
FontX:CrossRef\ $chapnum-
$pagenumDefault ¶ Font

The character formats are:
X:CrossRef Color blue, Pair Kern
U:SpecialSymbols   Wingdings, 9.0pt, others: as-is
U:BlackColor black, Pair Kern

Could the reason be in the accumulation of character formats?

Klaus Daube
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Font info disappears from x-ref format

[Klaus Daube]

Dear all,

In the FM documents (FM-9) of a customer a special symbol inside an x-ref 
format loses its font 
information - only from time to time, but quite frequently. The symbol is then 
displayed as 2 
rather than the page-symbol. Refreshing the screen with CTRL+l does not help. 
The only bypass is 
to save the document, close it and open it again. It happens on XP as well as 
on W7.

The x-ref format:
<$paranum>,\ 2\ <$chapnum>-
<$pagenum>

The character formats are:
X:CrossRef Color blue, Pair Kern
U:SpecialSymbols   Wingdings, 9.0pt, others: as-is
U:BlackColor black, Pair Kern

Could the reason be in the accumulation of character formats?

Klaus Daube
~~
Docu + Design Daube; Sch?racher 11; CH-8053 Z?rich
Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper
F: +41-44-422 86 25  E: ddd at daube.ch  W: www.daube.ch

Font info disappears from x-ref format

[gr...@hedgewizard.net]

Hi Klaus---
Is it safe to assume that the appearance and disappearance is not
machine-related?
(If it is, I'd look for installed fonts and system language differences.)
Are the char formats applied one on top of another (nested)? If so, there has
been issues with them getting stacked.
Also, is this just in FM, or when out put to PDF/paper/HTML?

Grant Hogarth

> On October 29, 2013 at 9:52 AM Klaus Daube  wrote:
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> In the FM documents (FM-9) of a customer a special symbol inside an x-ref
> format loses its font
> information - only from time to time, but quite frequently. The symbol is then
> displayed as 2
> rather than the page-symbol. Refreshing the screen with CTRL+l does not help.
> The only bypass is
> to save the document, close it and open it again. It happens on XP as well as
> on W7.
>
> The x-ref format:
> <$paranum>,\ 2 Font>\ <$chapnum>-
> <$pagenum>
>
> The character formats are:
> X:CrossRef Color blue, Pair Kern
> U:SpecialSymbols Wingdings, 9.0pt, others: as-is
> U:Black Color black, Pair Kern
>
> Could the reason be in the accumulation of character formats?
>
> Klaus Daube
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