Re: Is 3D Distiller required to process U3D files in FM 8 ?

2007-09-24 Thread Art Campbell
You nailed it, Shlomo,
I had been creating the PDF by printing to the logical printer, and it
turns out that you MUST SaveAs PDF.

Thanks!
Art

On 9/23/07, Shlomo Perets [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Art,

 You wrote:

 ... the question on the table is whether Acrobat 8 Pro can take 3D output
 from Frame and generate a 3D
 PDF...

 * Distiller 7 and later versions support embedding of U3D files in PDFs.
 The authoring application does not matter for this process, as long as the
 3D data is defined properly in the PS file being distilled. I'm not aware
 of any differences between the Distiller application included with Acrobat
 Professional and Acrobat 3D (or even Acrobat Standard).

 * Make sure that in File  Preferences, the Don't embed 3D model file in
 PDF preference is turned off.

 * Are you using Save as PDF? Support for the embedding of U3D files in
 PDFs in FrameMaker 8.0 only works when using Save as PDF (when printing
 to a PS file and distilling, an inactive bitmap of the 3D model is displayed).

 * Are there any 3D-related messages in the console?


 Shlomo Perets

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Is 3D Distiller required to process U3D files in FM 8 ?

2007-09-24 Thread Art Campbell
You nailed it, Shlomo,
I had been creating the PDF by printing to the logical printer, and it
turns out that you MUST SaveAs PDF.

Thanks!
Art

On 9/23/07, Shlomo Perets  wrote:
> Art,
>
> You wrote:
>
> >... the question on the table is whether Acrobat 8 Pro can take 3D output
> >from Frame and generate a 3D
> >PDF...
>
> * Distiller 7 and later versions support embedding of U3D files in PDFs.
> The authoring application does not matter for this process, as long as the
> 3D data is defined properly in the PS file being distilled. I'm not aware
> of any differences between the Distiller application included with Acrobat
> Professional and Acrobat 3D (or even Acrobat Standard).
>
> * Make sure that in File > Preferences, the "Don't embed 3D model file in
> PDF" preference is turned off.
>
> * Are you using "Save as PDF"? Support for the embedding of U3D files in
> PDFs in FrameMaker 8.0 only works when using "Save as PDF" (when printing
> to a PS file and distilling, an inactive bitmap of the 3D model is displayed).
>
> * Are there any 3D-related messages in the console?
>
>
> Shlomo Perets
>
> MicroType, http://www.microtype.com * ToolbarPlus Express for FrameMaker
> FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting * FrameMaker-to-Acrobat
> TimeSavers/Assistants
> FM-to-PDF Assistants: Navigation, Form, Presentation, Multimedia & 3D
>
>


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   and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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Is 3D Distiller required to process U3D files in FM 8 ?

2007-09-23 Thread Shlomo Perets
Art,

You wrote:

>... the question on the table is whether Acrobat 8 Pro can take 3D output 
>from Frame and generate a 3D
>PDF...

* Distiller 7 and later versions support embedding of U3D files in PDFs. 
The authoring application does not matter for this process, as long as the 
3D data is defined properly in the PS file being distilled. I'm not aware 
of any differences between the Distiller application included with Acrobat 
Professional and Acrobat 3D (or even Acrobat Standard).

* Make sure that in File > Preferences, the "Don't embed 3D model file in 
PDF" preference is turned off.

* Are you using "Save as PDF"? Support for the embedding of U3D files in 
PDFs in FrameMaker 8.0 only works when using "Save as PDF" (when printing 
to a PS file and distilling, an inactive bitmap of the 3D model is displayed).

* Are there any 3D-related messages in the console?


Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com * ToolbarPlus Express for FrameMaker
FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting * FrameMaker-to-Acrobat 
TimeSavers/Assistants
FM-to-PDF Assistants: Navigation, Form, Presentation, Multimedia & 3D




Is 3D Distiller required to process U3D files in FM 8 ?

2007-09-20 Thread Art Campbell
I'm playing with the eval version of FM 8, installed on a system that
already has Acrobat 8.1 Pro installed. The FM 8 installation refused
to install the embedded distiller because a more current version
already existed.

I've embedded a U3D file in a FM file, and everything looks good. The
3D menu is active and I can change background colors and suck.

But when I run it through the Acrobat 8.1 Pro distiller, there isn't
any 3D functionality in the PDF.

So the question is whether the FM 8 embedded distiller or Acrobat 8 3D
needs to be present in order to generate a 3D PDF from FM 8. Or if
there's something else required that I'm missing.

Thanks,
Art

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RE: Is 3D Distiller required to process U3D files in FM 8 ?

2007-09-20 Thread Dov Isaacs
If you have ANY version of Acrobat 7 or 8 already installed on
your system, you absolutely DON'T want the castrated version of
Distiller that comes with FrameMaker 8!

- Dov

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:framers-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Art
Campbell
 Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 3:13 PM
 To: Frame Users; Free Framers List
 Subject: Is 3D Distiller required to process U3D files in FM 8 ?
 
 I'm playing with the eval version of FM 8, installed on a system that
 already has Acrobat 8.1 Pro installed. The FM 8 installation refused
 to install the embedded distiller because a more current version
 already existed.
 
 I've embedded a U3D file in a FM file, and everything looks good. The
 3D menu is active and I can change background colors and suck.
 
 But when I run it through the Acrobat 8.1 Pro distiller, there isn't
 any 3D functionality in the PDF.
 
 So the question is whether the FM 8 embedded distiller or Acrobat 8 3D
 needs to be present in order to generate a 3D PDF from FM 8. Or if
 there's something else required that I'm missing.
 
 Thanks,
 Art
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RE: Is 3D Distiller required to process U3D files in FM 8 ?

2007-09-20 Thread Dov Isaacs
Of course not!

- Dov

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 Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 5:05 PM
 To: Dov Isaacs
 Cc: Art Campbell; Frame Users; Free Framers List
 Subject: RE: Is 3D Distiller required to process U3D files in FM 8 ?
 
 Hi Dov,
 
 That seems pretty clear. Did that statement make it into the Quick
Install
 docs for FrameMaker 8?
 
 Craig Ede
 
  If you have ANY version of Acrobat 7 or 8 already installed on
  your system, you absolutely DON'T want the castrated version of
  Distiller that comes with FrameMaker 8!
 
  - Dov
 

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Re: Is 3D Distiller required to process U3D files in FM 8 ?

2007-09-20 Thread Art Campbell
Dov,
OK, I'm certainly with you on that, but the question on the table is
whether Acrobat 8 Pro can take 3D output from Frame and generate a 3D
PDF

Art

On 9/20/07, Dov Isaacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If you have ANY version of Acrobat 7 or 8 already installed on
 your system, you absolutely DON'T want the castrated version of
 Distiller that comes with FrameMaker 8!

 - Dov

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:framers-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Art
 Campbell
  Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 3:13 PM
  To: Frame Users; Free Framers List
  Subject: Is 3D Distiller required to process U3D files in FM 8 ?
 
  I'm playing with the eval version of FM 8, installed on a system that
  already has Acrobat 8.1 Pro installed. The FM 8 installation refused
  to install the embedded distiller because a more current version
  already existed.
 
  I've embedded a U3D file in a FM file, and everything looks good. The
  3D menu is active and I can change background colors and suck.
 
  But when I run it through the Acrobat 8.1 Pro distiller, there isn't
  any 3D functionality in the PDF.
 
  So the question is whether the FM 8 embedded distiller or Acrobat 8 3D
  needs to be present in order to generate a 3D PDF from FM 8. Or if
  there's something else required that I'm missing.
 
  Thanks,
  Art



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Is 3D Distiller required to process U3D files in FM 8 ?

2007-09-20 Thread Art Campbell
I'm playing with the eval version of FM 8, installed on a system that
already has Acrobat 8.1 Pro installed. The FM 8 installation refused
to install the embedded distiller because a more current version
already existed.

I've embedded a U3D file in a FM file, and everything looks good. The
3D menu is active and I can change background colors and suck.

But when I run it through the Acrobat 8.1 Pro distiller, there isn't
any 3D functionality in the PDF.

So the question is whether the FM 8 embedded distiller or Acrobat 8 3D
needs to be present in order to generate a 3D PDF from FM 8. Or if
there's something else required that I'm missing.

Thanks,
Art

-- 
Art Campbell art.campbell at 
gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
   and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
 DoD 358



Is 3D Distiller required to process U3D files in FM 8 ?

2007-09-20 Thread Dov Isaacs
If you have ANY version of Acrobat 7 or 8 already installed on
your system, you absolutely DON'T want the castrated version of
Distiller that comes with FrameMaker 8!

- Dov

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-
> bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art
Campbell
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 3:13 PM
> To: Frame Users; Free Framers List
> Subject: Is 3D Distiller required to process U3D files in FM 8 ?
> 
> I'm playing with the eval version of FM 8, installed on a system that
> already has Acrobat 8.1 Pro installed. The FM 8 installation refused
> to install the embedded distiller because a more current version
> already existed.
> 
> I've embedded a U3D file in a FM file, and everything looks good. The
> 3D menu is active and I can change background colors and suck.
> 
> But when I run it through the Acrobat 8.1 Pro distiller, there isn't
> any 3D functionality in the PDF.
> 
> So the question is whether the FM 8 embedded distiller or Acrobat 8 3D
> needs to be present in order to generate a 3D PDF from FM 8. Or if
> there's something else required that I'm missing.
> 
> Thanks,
> Art



Is 3D Distiller required to process U3D files in FM 8 ?

2007-09-20 Thread Dov Isaacs
Of course not!

- Dov

> -Original Message-
> From: edecr01 at luther.edu [mailto:edecr01 at luther.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 5:05 PM
> To: Dov Isaacs
> Cc: Art Campbell; Frame Users; Free Framers List
> Subject: RE: Is 3D Distiller required to process U3D files in FM 8 ?
> 
> Hi Dov,
> 
> That seems pretty clear. Did that statement make it into the Quick
Install
> docs for FrameMaker 8?
> 
> Craig Ede
> 
> > If you have ANY version of Acrobat 7 or 8 already installed on
> > your system, you absolutely DON'T want the castrated version of
> > Distiller that comes with FrameMaker 8!
> >
> > - Dov
> 




Is 3D Distiller required to process U3D files in FM 8 ?

2007-09-20 Thread Art Campbell
Dov,
OK, I'm certainly with you on that, but the question on the table is
whether Acrobat 8 Pro can take 3D output from Frame and generate a 3D
PDF

Art

On 9/20/07, Dov Isaacs  wrote:
> If you have ANY version of Acrobat 7 or 8 already installed on
> your system, you absolutely DON'T want the castrated version of
> Distiller that comes with FrameMaker 8!
>
> - Dov
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: framers-bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-
> > bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art
> Campbell
> > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 3:13 PM
> > To: Frame Users; Free Framers List
> > Subject: Is 3D Distiller required to process U3D files in FM 8 ?
> >
> > I'm playing with the eval version of FM 8, installed on a system that
> > already has Acrobat 8.1 Pro installed. The FM 8 installation refused
> > to install the embedded distiller because a more current version
> > already existed.
> >
> > I've embedded a U3D file in a FM file, and everything looks good. The
> > 3D menu is active and I can change background colors and suck.
> >
> > But when I run it through the Acrobat 8.1 Pro distiller, there isn't
> > any 3D functionality in the PDF.
> >
> > So the question is whether the FM 8 embedded distiller or Acrobat 8 3D
> > needs to be present in order to generate a 3D PDF from FM 8. Or if
> > there's something else required that I'm missing.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Art
>


-- 
Art Campbell art.campbell at 
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  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
   and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
 DoD 358