PDF Import
Brad, I have found in the past that some anti-virus suites can be overzealous and serious affect printing. The worst offender is Microsoft Security Essentials, where printing FrameMaker documents that contain referenced PDF files takes a significantly long time. You might want to try adding a process exclusion to your anti-virus product to ignore FrameMaker.exe, and AcroDist.exe too. When I switched the antivirus product [from MS security to AVG professional] on the offending machine, printing those documents was achievable. YMMV. Regards // Simon BUCH On 16/04/2013 11:58, Brad Anderson wrote: > I've been running several automated tasks through FrameMaker. All image > formats convert to PDF fairly quickly EXCEPT PDF files. If I import pages of > separate PDF files into a FrameMaker document, converting to PDF slows to a > crawl. I'm curious why this happens. > > The latest try is a 200+ page document (with roughly 6 "thumbnail" PDF pages > per page). It took all weekend (> 48 hours to create a PS file). The > PostScript file failed to distill. I'm curious what can speed up the process > and make it less likely to fail. > > Converting several hundred pages of PDF files to a different format is not a > good option here also because of time and maintenance. >
Re: PDF Import
Brad, I have found in the past that some anti-virus suites can be overzealous and serious affect printing. The worst offender is Microsoft Security Essentials, where printing FrameMaker documents that contain referenced PDF files takes a significantly long time. You might want to try adding a process exclusion to your anti-virus product to ignore FrameMaker.exe, and AcroDist.exe too. When I switched the antivirus product [from MS security to AVG professional] on the offending machine, printing those documents was achievable. YMMV. Regards // Simon BUCH On 16/04/2013 11:58, Brad Anderson wrote: I've been running several automated tasks through FrameMaker. All image formats convert to PDF fairly quickly EXCEPT PDF files. If I import pages of separate PDF files into a FrameMaker document, converting to PDF slows to a crawl. I'm curious why this happens. The latest try is a 200+ page document (with roughly 6 "thumbnail" PDF pages per page). It took all weekend (> 48 hours to create a PS file). The PostScript file failed to distill. I'm curious what can speed up the process and make it less likely to fail. Converting several hundred pages of PDF files to a different format is not a good option here also because of time and maintenance. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
PDF Import
Hi Arnis Fortunately, properly prepared EPS is not that bad at all. As you very well know I'm pretty happy with PostScript :-) Anyway, in graphics production of year 2013 it's no less than *very* easy - by accident or lack of knowledge - to mix an unsuitable PDF into a FM-workflow, e.g. a perfectly legal PDF from Illustrator or InDesign that contain objects that doesn't easily reproduce with 1:1 object conversion to the PostScript imaging model. It's been a long time since I commented on anything here, but I'm still lurking :-) Let me use this opportunity to encourage Adobe to implement true PDF-library support into FM !!! Best regards / Med venlig hilsen Jacob Sch?ffer | Chief Developer Grafikhuset (House of Graphics) Paradis All? 22, Raml?se DK-3200 Helsinge, Denmark Moblie: +45 2021 1958 Phone: +45 4848 0096 Email: js at grafikhuset.dk Web: http://design.grafikhuset.dk -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Arnis Gubins Sent: 16. april 2013 22:10 To: "Jacob Sch?ffer (Grafikhuset)" Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: PDF Import Hi Jacob, AFAIK, that's what goes on behind the scenes. FM doesn't support all of the PDF (imaging) functionality, such as live transparency, and still outputs via an outdated postscript printer model (i.e. the Adobe PDF printer instance). It has to first flatten the content to be able to output the postscript. This is also why it was so difficult to get the CMYK PDFs to work properly. So, for now, EPS is still at the heart of FM. Adobe may discourage, but, until they put the resources into FM to directly create PDFs (like all of the other Creative apps), proper EPS will be the safest and fastest route to a PDF output. ;-) Regards, Arnis On 16/4/2013 3:32 PM, Jacob Sch?ffer (Grafikhuset) wrote: > Hi Arnis, > > Is it really true that FM makes an internal PDF-> EPS conversion? > > If "true" that?s very interesting. As to my knowledge Adobe > unceasingly discourage the use of EPS when PDF is available because > the PostScript imaging model can't render a quite substantial amount > of PDF objects correctly :-) > > > ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as js at grafikhuset.dk. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/js%40grafikhuset.dk Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
PDF Import
Hi Arnis, Is it really true that FM makes an internal PDF-> EPS conversion? If "true" that?s very interesting. As to my knowledge Adobe unceasingly discourage the use of EPS when PDF is available because the PostScript imaging model can't render a quite substantial amount of PDF objects correctly :-) Best regards / Med venlig hilsen Jacob Sch?ffer? |? Chief Developer Grafikhuset (House of Graphics) Paradis All? 22, Raml?se DK-3200 Helsinge, Denmark Moblie: +45 2021 1958 Phone: +45 4848 0096 Email: js at grafikhuset.dk Web: http://design.grafikhuset.dk -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Arnis Gubins Sent: 16. april 2013 20:02 To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; Brad Anderson Subject: Re: PDF Import Brad, FM converts (on the fly) PDFs to EPS internally, so if you have a lot of them (I'm assuming one of your PatternStream catalogues) and you don't have your TEMP area on a big fast SSD, it's going to spend a lot of time writing out and reading back in temp files. All I can suggest (though you don't want to hear it) is to create an Acrobat actionscript to batch convert the PDFs to EPS first and then try those in your automation. Perhaps do a small batch as a test to see if the throughput is improved. Regards, Arnis ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as js at grafikhuset.dk. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/js%40grafikhuset.dk Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
PDF Import (Brad Anderson)
I have the same issues with printing referenced pdf files. Printing slows down to a crawl and takes for ever. I use FM 10 and 11. For some reason it seems version 7 does a better job. I have tried all sorts of tricks to no avail. Regards Bj?rn
PDF Import
Hi Jacob, AFAIK, that's what goes on behind the scenes. FM doesn't support all of the PDF (imaging) functionality, such as live transparency, and still outputs via an outdated postscript printer model (i.e. the Adobe PDF printer instance). It has to first flatten the content to be able to output the postscript. This is also why it was so difficult to get the CMYK PDFs to work properly. So, for now, EPS is still at the heart of FM. Adobe may discourage, but, until they put the resources into FM to directly create PDFs (like all of the other Creative apps), proper EPS will be the safest and fastest route to a PDF output. ;-) Regards, Arnis On 16/4/2013 3:32 PM, Jacob Sch?ffer (Grafikhuset) wrote: > Hi Arnis, > > Is it really true that FM makes an internal PDF-> EPS conversion? > > If "true" that?s very interesting. As to my knowledge Adobe unceasingly > discourage the use of EPS when PDF is available because the PostScript > imaging model can't render a quite substantial amount of PDF objects > correctly :-) > > >
PDF Import
Brad, FM converts (on the fly) PDFs to EPS internally, so if you have a lot of them (I'm assuming one of your PatternStream catalogues) and you don't have your TEMP area on a big fast SSD, it's going to spend a lot of time writing out and reading back in temp files. All I can suggest (though you don't want to hear it) is to create an Acrobat actionscript to batch convert the PDFs to EPS first and then try those in your automation. Perhaps do a small batch as a test to see if the throughput is improved. Regards, Arnis
RE: PDF Import
Hi Arnis Fortunately, properly prepared EPS is not that bad at all. As you very well know I'm pretty happy with PostScript :-) Anyway, in graphics production of year 2013 it's no less than *very* easy - by accident or lack of knowledge - to mix an unsuitable PDF into a FM-workflow, e.g. a perfectly legal PDF from Illustrator or InDesign that contain objects that doesn't easily reproduce with 1:1 object conversion to the PostScript imaging model. It's been a long time since I commented on anything here, but I'm still lurking :-) Let me use this opportunity to encourage Adobe to implement true PDF-library support into FM !!! Best regards / Med venlig hilsen Jacob Schäffer | Chief Developer Grafikhuset (House of Graphics) Paradis Allé 22, Ramløse DK-3200 Helsinge, Denmark Moblie: +45 2021 1958 Phone: +45 4848 0096 Email: j...@grafikhuset.dk Web: http://design.grafikhuset.dk -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Arnis Gubins Sent: 16. april 2013 22:10 To: "Jacob Schäffer (Grafikhuset)" Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: PDF Import Hi Jacob, AFAIK, that's what goes on behind the scenes. FM doesn't support all of the PDF (imaging) functionality, such as live transparency, and still outputs via an outdated postscript printer model (i.e. the Adobe PDF printer instance). It has to first flatten the content to be able to output the postscript. This is also why it was so difficult to get the CMYK PDFs to work properly. So, for now, EPS is still at the heart of FM. Adobe may discourage, but, until they put the resources into FM to directly create PDFs (like all of the other Creative apps), proper EPS will be the safest and fastest route to a PDF output. ;-) Regards, Arnis On 16/4/2013 3:32 PM, Jacob Schäffer (Grafikhuset) wrote: > Hi Arnis, > > Is it really true that FM makes an internal PDF-> EPS conversion? > > If "true" that’s very interesting. As to my knowledge Adobe > unceasingly discourage the use of EPS when PDF is available because > the PostScript imaging model can't render a quite substantial amount > of PDF objects correctly :-) > > > ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as j...@grafikhuset.dk. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/js%40grafikhuset.dk Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: PDF Import
Hi Jacob, AFAIK, that's what goes on behind the scenes. FM doesn't support all of the PDF (imaging) functionality, such as live transparency, and still outputs via an outdated postscript printer model (i.e. the Adobe PDF printer instance). It has to first flatten the content to be able to output the postscript. This is also why it was so difficult to get the CMYK PDFs to work properly. So, for now, EPS is still at the heart of FM. Adobe may discourage, but, until they put the resources into FM to directly create PDFs (like all of the other Creative apps), proper EPS will be the safest and fastest route to a PDF output. ;-) Regards, Arnis On 16/4/2013 3:32 PM, Jacob Schäffer (Grafikhuset) wrote: Hi Arnis, Is it really true that FM makes an internal PDF-> EPS conversion? If "true" that’s very interesting. As to my knowledge Adobe unceasingly discourage the use of EPS when PDF is available because the PostScript imaging model can't render a quite substantial amount of PDF objects correctly :-) ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: PDF Import
Hi Arnis, Is it really true that FM makes an internal PDF-> EPS conversion? If "true" thats very interesting. As to my knowledge Adobe unceasingly discourage the use of EPS when PDF is available because the PostScript imaging model can't render a quite substantial amount of PDF objects correctly :-) Best regards / Med venlig hilsen Jacob Schäffer | Chief Developer Grafikhuset (House of Graphics) Paradis Allé 22, Ramløse DK-3200 Helsinge, Denmark Moblie: +45 2021 1958 Phone: +45 4848 0096 Email: j...@grafikhuset.dk Web: http://design.grafikhuset.dk -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Arnis Gubins Sent: 16. april 2013 20:02 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Brad Anderson Subject: Re: PDF Import Brad, FM converts (on the fly) PDFs to EPS internally, so if you have a lot of them (I'm assuming one of your PatternStream catalogues) and you don't have your TEMP area on a big fast SSD, it's going to spend a lot of time writing out and reading back in temp files. All I can suggest (though you don't want to hear it) is to create an Acrobat actionscript to batch convert the PDFs to EPS first and then try those in your automation. Perhaps do a small batch as a test to see if the throughput is improved. Regards, Arnis ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as j...@grafikhuset.dk. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/js%40grafikhuset.dk Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: PDF Import
Brad, FM converts (on the fly) PDFs to EPS internally, so if you have a lot of them (I'm assuming one of your PatternStream catalogues) and you don't have your TEMP area on a big fast SSD, it's going to spend a lot of time writing out and reading back in temp files. All I can suggest (though you don't want to hear it) is to create an Acrobat actionscript to batch convert the PDFs to EPS first and then try those in your automation. Perhaps do a small batch as a test to see if the throughput is improved. Regards, Arnis ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: PDF Import (Brad Anderson)
I have the same issues with printing referenced pdf files. Printing slows down to a crawl and takes for ever. I use FM 10 and 11. For some reason it seems version 7 does a better job. I have tried all sorts of tricks to no avail. Regards Bjørn ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
PDF Import
Framers, I've been running several automated tasks through FrameMaker. All image formats convert to PDF fairly quickly EXCEPT PDF files. If I import pages of separate PDF files into a FrameMaker document, converting to PDF slows to a crawl. I'm curious why this happens. The latest try is a 200+ page document (with roughly 6 "thumbnail" PDF pages per page). It took all weekend (> 48 hours to create a PS file). The PostScript file failed to distill. I'm curious what can speed up the process and make it less likely to fail. Converting several hundred pages of PDF files to a different format is not a good option here also because of time and maintenance. Thanks, Brad ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
PDF Import
Framers, I've been running several automated tasks through FrameMaker. All image formats convert to PDF fairly quickly EXCEPT PDF files. If I import pages of separate PDF files into a FrameMaker document, converting to PDF slows to a crawl. I'm curious why this happens. The latest try is a 200+ page document (with roughly 6 "thumbnail" PDF pages per page). It took all weekend (> 48 hours to create a PS file). The PostScript file failed to distill. I'm curious what can speed up the process and make it less likely to fail. Converting several hundred pages of PDF files to a different format is not a good option here also because of time and maintenance. Thanks, Brad
PDF import problem - solution summary
Hi everyone, Thanks to this list, I received great advice and two very good solutions for dealing with my PDF import problem. Here's a summary for anyone that runs into this issue in the future: Problem - I am bringing highly detailed drawings into FrameMaker 8. These drawings are PDFs that print just fine on their own. When I import them into FrameMaker, the lines became thicker, making them unreadable on the screen and on the printed page. Solution #1 - Jan Homan from Visual Integrity suggested using their product, PDF Fly (www.pdf-fly.com <http://www.pdf-fly.com/> ) to convert the drawings into MIF format. This worked beautifully, and he even offered a 30% discount on the web price with coupon code VIT030DR8. Solution #2 - Rick Quatro from Carmen Publishing emailed me off-list and looked at the PDFs for me. He concluded that FrameMaker imports the PDF as an EPS with a TIFF thumbnail. The workaround is to export the Frame document as a PDF and print from that version. The resulting PDF is perfect. After struggling with this problem for more time than I'd like to admit, I wonder why I didn't think of that before! Thanks for all of your responses, Adrianne (who can't control the signature line that follows...) Please take care of the environment, print only if necessary. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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On Adrianne's behalf -- if this makes it to the list! (Glad to have helped, Adrianne.) sr Original Message Subject: RE: PDF import issue Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:19:51 -0500 From: Adrianne Mora To: Stuart Rogers References: Hi Stuart, You are absolutely right about the source of the problem. And exporting to PDF is the solution. Unfortunately, I can't seem to get my emails through to the list to update everyone on this solution. I've sent it twice already, and it still hasn't shown up. Thanks so much for your interest and help! Adrianne -Original Message- From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com] Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 2:56 PM To: Adrianne Mora Subject: Re: PDF import issue Adrianne Mora wrote: > Hi Stuart, > > Thanks for your response! The exact process I use is to open the > original drawing in AutoCAD and export as DWG. Then I open it in DWG > TrueView. From there, I print to PDF using Distiller. For various > reasons, this is the only way I can get a decent output. We have a very > old version of AutoCAD here. > > The puzzling thing is that when I print this PDF to a regular laser > printer, it looks great. But as soon as I import it into a page in > FrameMaker, the lines are too thick, which makes the drawing illegible. Hi Adrianne, I know what you mean about AutoCAD -- we have a couple of versions here, and they don't play nicely with postscript. I have had to load PCL versions of our printer driver on the engineers' PCs so they can get decent output. What I was getting at in my earlier question about your print workflow was this: *after* you've imported the PDF into the FM file and see that the lines have become too thick, do you then print the FM to a hardware printer and still see thick lines, or do you first distill the FM file to a new PDF and print from there to hardware? What I'm getting at is that maybe Distiller would just pass through the original import-by-reference PDF file, disregarding whatever FM does to render it on screen or to a h/w printer. Good luck at any rate! -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com Suggested headline for theonion.com: "In Final Trip to Beijing, Bush Calls on Premier to 'Tear Down This Wall'" -- Malcolm Fleschner, Palo Alto, Calif., in The Washington Post Please take care of the environment. Print only if necessary.
[Fwd: RE: PDF import issue]
On Adrianne's behalf -- if this makes it to the list! (Glad to have helped, Adrianne.) sr Original Message Subject: RE: PDF import issue Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:19:51 -0500 From: Adrianne Mora To: Stuart Rogers References: Hi Stuart, You are absolutely right about the source of the problem. And exporting to PDF is the solution. Unfortunately, I can't seem to get my emails through to the list to update everyone on this solution. I've sent it twice already, and it still hasn't shown up. Thanks so much for your interest and help! Adrianne -Original Message- From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com] Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 2:56 PM To: Adrianne Mora Subject: Re: PDF import issue Adrianne Mora wrote: > Hi Stuart, > > Thanks for your response! The exact process I use is to open the > original drawing in AutoCAD and export as DWG. Then I open it in DWG > TrueView. From there, I print to PDF using Distiller. For various > reasons, this is the only way I can get a decent output. We have a very > old version of AutoCAD here. > > The puzzling thing is that when I print this PDF to a regular laser > printer, it looks great. But as soon as I import it into a page in > FrameMaker, the lines are too thick, which makes the drawing illegible. Hi Adrianne, I know what you mean about AutoCAD -- we have a couple of versions here, and they don't play nicely with postscript. I have had to load PCL versions of our printer driver on the engineers' PCs so they can get decent output. What I was getting at in my earlier question about your print workflow was this: *after* you've imported the PDF into the FM file and see that the lines have become too thick, do you then print the FM to a hardware printer and still see thick lines, or do you first distill the FM file to a new PDF and print from there to hardware? What I'm getting at is that maybe Distiller would just pass through the original import-by-reference PDF file, disregarding whatever FM does to render it on screen or to a h/w printer. Good luck at any rate! -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com Suggested headline for theonion.com: "In Final Trip to Beijing, Bush Calls on Premier to 'Tear Down This Wall'" -- Malcolm Fleschner, Palo Alto, Calif., in The Washington Post Please take care of the environment. Print only if necessary. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
PDF import problem - solution summary
Hi everyone, Thanks to this list, I received great advice and two very good solutions for dealing with my PDF import problem. Here's a summary for anyone that runs into this issue in the future: Problem - I am bringing highly detailed drawings into FrameMaker 8. These drawings are PDFs that print just fine on their own. When I import them into FrameMaker, the lines became thicker, making them unreadable on the screen and on the printed page. Solution #1 - Jan Homan from Visual Integrity suggested using their product, PDF Fly (www.pdf-fly.com <http://www.pdf-fly.com/> ) to convert the drawings into MIF format. This worked beautifully, and he even offered a 30% discount on the web price with coupon code VIT030DR8. Solution #2 - Rick Quatro from Carmen Publishing emailed me off-list and looked at the PDFs for me. He concluded that FrameMaker imports the PDF as an EPS with a TIFF thumbnail. The workaround is to export the Frame document as a PDF and print from that version. The resulting PDF is perfect. After struggling with this problem for more time than I'd like to admit, I wonder why I didn't think of that before! Thanks for all of your responses, Adrianne (who can't control the signature line that follows...) Please take care of the environment, print only if necessary.
RE: PDF import issue
Adrianne, I have had good results with CATIA files that have been saved/exported in the .cgm file format. I import the .cgm files into FrameMaker. You can unlock the imported art in FrameMaker and edit it if you need to. Most of the time it does not need any touchup. Unlock .cgm art with this key sequence: Esc, g, Shift+U Gary E. Cole Training Publications -Original Message- From: Adrianne Mora [mailto:adrian...@envipco.com] Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 11:48 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: PDF import issue I am using Unstructured FrameMaker 8 on Windows XP. I also have Acrobat 8 Standard. I have several wiring diagrams in DWG format that I need to import into a FrameMaker file. Because of the size and detail of these diagrams, they must be printed on Ledger (11x17) sized paper. I print the drawing from AutoCAD to PDF. I can open and print the PDF from Acrobat Standard and it looks perfect. However, when I import (by reference) this same file into a Ledger-sized page in FrameMaker, all of the lines look (and print) thicker, which makes all of the small details illegible. In the object details, Frame says that it is scaled 100%. Considering that the file is imported by reference, shouldn't it look the same way? Does anyone have any solutions? Thanks for any help! Adrianne Mora Technical Writer Please take care of the environment, print only if necessary. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as gary.e.c...@boeing.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/gary.e.cole%40boeing .com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
PDF import issue
Adrianne, I have had good results with CATIA files that have been saved/exported in the .cgm file format. I import the .cgm files into FrameMaker. You can unlock the imported art in FrameMaker and edit it if you need to. Most of the time it does not need any touchup. Unlock .cgm art with this key sequence: Esc, g, Shift+U Gary E. Cole Training Publications -Original Message- From: Adrianne Mora [mailto:adrian...@envipco.com] Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 11:48 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: PDF import issue I am using Unstructured FrameMaker 8 on Windows XP. I also have Acrobat 8 Standard. I have several wiring diagrams in DWG format that I need to import into a FrameMaker file. Because of the size and detail of these diagrams, they must be printed on Ledger (11x17) sized paper. I print the drawing from AutoCAD to PDF. I can open and print the PDF from Acrobat Standard and it looks perfect. However, when I import (by reference) this same file into a Ledger-sized page in FrameMaker, all of the lines look (and print) thicker, which makes all of the small details illegible. In the object details, Frame says that it is scaled 100%. Considering that the file is imported by reference, shouldn't it look the same way? Does anyone have any solutions? Thanks for any help! Adrianne Mora Technical Writer Please take care of the environment, print only if necessary. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as gary.e.cole at boeing.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/gary.e.cole%40boeing .com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
PDF import issue
Adrianne Mora wrote: > I am using Unstructured FrameMaker 8 on Windows XP. I also have Acrobat > 8 Standard. > > > > I have several wiring diagrams in DWG format that I need to import into > a FrameMaker file. Because of the size and detail of these diagrams, > they must be printed on Ledger (11x17) sized paper. I print the drawing > from AutoCAD to PDF. I can open and print the PDF from Acrobat Standard > and it looks perfect. > > > > However, when I import (by reference) this same file into a Ledger-sized > page in FrameMaker, all of the lines look (and print) thicker, which > makes all of the small details illegible. In the object details, Frame > says that it is scaled 100%. Considering that the file is imported by > reference, shouldn't it look the same way? Does anyone have any > solutions? > When you print, are you printing straight to a hardware printer from FM, or are you printing to Distiller/PDF first, then printing hardcopy from that output? -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com "A man's screech should exceed his rasp, or what's a violin for?" --another Rogers Original
Re: PDF import issue
Adrianne Mora wrote: > I am using Unstructured FrameMaker 8 on Windows XP. I also have Acrobat > 8 Standard. > > > > I have several wiring diagrams in DWG format that I need to import into > a FrameMaker file. Because of the size and detail of these diagrams, > they must be printed on Ledger (11x17) sized paper. I print the drawing > from AutoCAD to PDF. I can open and print the PDF from Acrobat Standard > and it looks perfect. > > > > However, when I import (by reference) this same file into a Ledger-sized > page in FrameMaker, all of the lines look (and print) thicker, which > makes all of the small details illegible. In the object details, Frame > says that it is scaled 100%. Considering that the file is imported by > reference, shouldn't it look the same way? Does anyone have any > solutions? > When you print, are you printing straight to a hardware printer from FM, or are you printing to Distiller/PDF first, then printing hardcopy from that output? -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com "A man's screech should exceed his rasp, or what's a violin for?" --another Rogers Original ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
PDF import issue
I am using Unstructured FrameMaker 8 on Windows XP. I also have Acrobat 8 Standard. I have several wiring diagrams in DWG format that I need to import into a FrameMaker file. Because of the size and detail of these diagrams, they must be printed on Ledger (11x17) sized paper. I print the drawing from AutoCAD to PDF. I can open and print the PDF from Acrobat Standard and it looks perfect. However, when I import (by reference) this same file into a Ledger-sized page in FrameMaker, all of the lines look (and print) thicker, which makes all of the small details illegible. In the object details, Frame says that it is scaled 100%. Considering that the file is imported by reference, shouldn't it look the same way? Does anyone have any solutions? Thanks for any help! Adrianne Mora Technical Writer Please take care of the environment, print only if necessary. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
PDF import issue
I am using Unstructured FrameMaker 8 on Windows XP. I also have Acrobat 8 Standard. I have several wiring diagrams in DWG format that I need to import into a FrameMaker file. Because of the size and detail of these diagrams, they must be printed on Ledger (11x17) sized paper. I print the drawing from AutoCAD to PDF. I can open and print the PDF from Acrobat Standard and it looks perfect. However, when I import (by reference) this same file into a Ledger-sized page in FrameMaker, all of the lines look (and print) thicker, which makes all of the small details illegible. In the object details, Frame says that it is scaled 100%. Considering that the file is imported by reference, shouldn't it look the same way? Does anyone have any solutions? Thanks for any help! Adrianne Mora Technical Writer Please take care of the environment, print only if necessary.
