Re: Putting line drawings in a frame doc
I found a way to insert lines and arrows in FM in such a way that they move with the text flow, thereby staying where they belong. Insert an anchored frame and select Outside Column for the location. You can then drag the frame horizontally wherever you want, and move it vertically by dragging the resize handles. With this method, the anchored frame stays in the same relative location to the point of insertion. And any drawing lines that you drag into the anchored frame move together with the anchored frame. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Theresa de Valence wrote: Hello Framers, One of my techniques for quickly conveying an idea is to use a small line drawing (lines, boxes, circles and text). I have been doing these drawings in Frame for many years, having never developed any greater flexability with any other drawing software. These drawing files are imported as Text Insets. In this way I have NO control over how the drawing appears in the document flow. If I put the drawing into an anchored frame, my only choice is run into paragraph which places the drawing on the left side of the paragraph. Originally I may have used Text Insets because of memory considerations. Or perhaps because i sometimes have reused the drawing in another place. Neither of these issues is particularly relevant in the present case. How do you control where an image shows up in the text? How many other people use graphics feature in Frame to draw things? Do people have recommendations for other relationships for adding simple line drawings? Thanks, Theresa de Valence ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sbw%40actcom.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Putting line drawings in a frame doc
I found a way to insert lines and arrows in FM in such a way that they move with the text flow, thereby staying where they belong. Insert an anchored frame and select Outside Column for the location. You can then drag the frame horizontally wherever you want, and move it vertically by dragging the resize handles. With this method, the anchored frame stays in the same relative location to the point of insertion. And any drawing lines that you drag into the anchored frame move together with the anchored frame. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Theresa de Valence wrote: > Hello Framers, > > One of my techniques for quickly conveying an idea is to use a small > line drawing (lines, boxes, circles and text). I have been doing these > drawings in Frame for many years, having never developed any greater > flexability with any other drawing software. > > These drawing files are imported as Text Insets. > > In this way I have NO control over how the drawing appears in the > document flow. If I put the drawing into an anchored frame, my only > choice is "run into paragraph" which places the drawing on the left side > of the paragraph. > > Originally I may have used Text Insets because of memory considerations. > Or perhaps because i sometimes have reused the drawing in another place. > Neither of these issues is particularly relevant in the present case. > > How do you control where an image shows up in the text? > How many other people use graphics feature in Frame to draw things? > Do people have recommendations for other relationships for adding simple > line drawings? > > Thanks, > Theresa de Valence > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as sbw at actcom.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sbw%40actcom.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > >
RE: Putting line drawings in a frame doc
Theresa de Valence wrote: One of my techniques for quickly conveying an idea is to use a small line drawing (lines, boxes, circles and text). I have been doing these drawings in Frame for many years, having never developed any greater flexability with any other drawing software. These drawing files are imported as Text Insets. If you're using FM's drawing tools, why not just create the drawings in the FM doc in which they appear? You can draw in a graphic frame placed on the page, if you don't want the graphic to flow with the text, or in an anchored frame if you do. A text inset seems a singularly awkward way to insert a drawing. In this way I have NO control over how the drawing appears in the document flow. If I put the drawing into an anchored frame, my only choice is run into paragraph which places the drawing on the left side of the paragraph. Your only choice? You don't have other Anchoring Position options (Below Current Line, At Top of Column, At Bottom of Column, etc.) and Alignment options (Left, Center, Right, etc.) in the Anchored Frame dialog? (And you can't change the alignment, indents, etc., of the container paragraph either?) Either something's wrong with your FM installation or you're doing something quite odd with this text inset procedure. How are you doing this? Are you creating the drawing in an anchored frame in the source file and importing the flow in which it resides into your destination (main) flow? Or are you importing into a text frame inside an anchored frame in your destination (main) flow? Have you tried just creating an anchored frame, playing with the size, anchoring, and alignment, and then proceeding to draw inside it? I think whatever's causing your lack of placement control has something to do with your text inset importing process, and I suggest dumping that. HTH! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Putting line drawings in a frame doc (new question)
Hi all, thanks for all the off and on list replies. I get that I should put the graphics directly into the document in question in an anchored frame, not as an anchored frame inside a text inset. Will do herewith. With respect to text running around a graphic, i.e. the width of the graphic does not take up the whole width of the page, are there no other choices but that the graphic is flush left and the text fills in to the right? Thanks, Theresa ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Putting line drawings in a frame doc
Theresa de Valence wrote: > One of my techniques for quickly conveying an idea is to use > a small line drawing (lines, boxes, circles and text). I have > been doing these drawings in Frame for many years, having > never developed any greater flexability with any other > drawing software. > > These drawing files are imported as Text Insets. If you're using FM's drawing tools, why not just create the drawings in the FM doc in which they appear? You can draw in a graphic frame placed on the page, if you don't want the graphic to flow with the text, or in an anchored frame if you do. A text inset seems a singularly awkward way to insert a drawing. > In this way I have NO control over how the drawing appears in > the document flow. If I put the drawing into an anchored > frame, my only choice is "run into paragraph" which places > the drawing on the left side of the paragraph. Your only choice? You don't have other Anchoring Position options (Below Current Line, At Top of Column, At Bottom of Column, etc.) and Alignment options (Left, Center, Right, etc.) in the Anchored Frame dialog? (And you can't change the alignment, indents, etc., of the container paragraph either?) Either something's wrong with your FM installation or you're doing something quite odd with this text inset procedure. How are you doing this? Are you creating the drawing in an anchored frame in the source file and importing the flow in which it resides into your destination (main) flow? Or are you importing into a text frame inside an anchored frame in your destination (main) flow? Have you tried just creating an anchored frame, playing with the size, anchoring, and alignment, and then proceeding to draw inside it? I think whatever's causing your lack of placement control has something to do with your text inset importing process, and I suggest dumping that. HTH! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 --
Putting line drawings in a frame doc (new question)
Hi all, thanks for all the off and on list replies. I get that I should put the graphics directly into the document in question in an anchored frame, not as an anchored frame inside a text inset. Will do herewith. With respect to text running around a graphic, i.e. the width of the graphic does not take up the whole width of the page, are there no other choices but that the graphic is flush left and the text fills in to the right? Thanks, Theresa
Re: Putting line drawings in a frame doc
Theresa de Valence wrote: How do you control where an image shows up in the text? I have tags for paragraphs (gf GraphicFlush, gi GraphicIndented, etc.) into which I put (only) an anchored frame At Insertion Point. Then I put my graphic inside. Sometimes I import a jpg or other image file; sometimes I use the simple vector drawing tools from FM's Graphics Tools palette. If I were importing a text inset they way you do, I would have to draw a text frame inside the anchored frame first, and import into that. But in any of these cases, I have control over where the containing anchored frame is (as well as space above/below, next pgf tag, etc.) through the properties of the containing pgf tag and/or the anchored frame itself. HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com There are few situations in life that cannot be resolved promptly, and to the satisfaction of all concerned, by either suicide, a bag of gold, or thrusting a despised antagonist over a precipice on a dark night. — Ernest Bramah (Kai Lung stories) ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Putting line drawings in a frame doc
Hello Framers, One of my techniques for quickly conveying an idea is to use a small line drawing (lines, boxes, circles and text). I have been doing these drawings in Frame for many years, having never developed any greater flexability with any other drawing software. These drawing files are imported as Text Insets. In this way I have NO control over how the drawing appears in the document flow. If I put the drawing into an anchored frame, my only choice is "run into paragraph" which places the drawing on the left side of the paragraph. Originally I may have used Text Insets because of memory considerations. Or perhaps because i sometimes have reused the drawing in another place. Neither of these issues is particularly relevant in the present case. How do you control where an image shows up in the text? How many other people use graphics feature in Frame to draw things? Do people have recommendations for other relationships for adding simple line drawings? Thanks, Theresa de Valence
Putting line drawings in a frame doc
Theresa de Valence wrote: > > How do you control where an image shows up in the text? I have tags for paragraphs (gf GraphicFlush, gi GraphicIndented, etc.) into which I put (only) an anchored frame At Insertion Point. Then I put my graphic inside. Sometimes I import a jpg or other image file; sometimes I use the simple vector drawing tools from FM's Graphics Tools palette. If I were importing a text inset they way you do, I would have to draw a text frame inside the anchored frame first, and import into that. But in any of these cases, I have control over where the containing anchored frame is (as well as space above/below, next pgf tag, etc.) through the properties of the containing pgf tag and/or the anchored frame itself. HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com "There are few situations in life that cannot be resolved promptly, and to the satisfaction of all concerned, by either suicide, a bag of gold, or thrusting a despised antagonist over a precipice on a dark night." ? Ernest Bramah (Kai Lung stories)
