RE: Blank pages
Make sure your pagination setting select Next Available Page rather than Read From File. Craig From: phar...@bailiwick.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Blank pages Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 22:15:28 + I have all of my books set for single-sided with Delete Empty Pages. Lately extra blank pages are showing on many documents even after I save (which almost always clears out empty pages) or select Remove Overrides when going from master view to page view (another reliable way for deleting extra pages). But they still remain, and I can only get rid of them manually. I use Frame 10 on a 64-bit Windows 7 system. Today I worked on a 100 page file where the document shrank considerably to about 50 pages. And again, even after saving and generating the book, the extra pages still remained. These pages show after the end of the section mark. What could be causing this? Pam ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as craig...@hotmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/craigede%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Blank pages
List of reasons for unwanted blank pages (from Harro de Jong): Blank pages at the start or end of a chapter: - rightclick chapter in book-Pagination-Make page count odd/even (can add an empty page at end of chapter) - rightclick chapter in book-Pagination- 1st page side (can add an empty page at the start of the chapter if it's set to anything other than Next Available.) - Page break in paragraph format or as paragraph override, or start: top of page setting - Master pages set to anything other than Left or Right - Pages with graphic objects or text frames outside (or behind) the body text frame - Pages with an extra text frame that overlaps the body text frame Blank pages at any position: - Manual page break - Page break in paragraph format or as paragraph override, or start: top of page setting - Table or graphic frame anchors (set to 'below current line', if the table/figure is large enough that the table and anchor, plus any paragraphs with 'keep with next' settings above the anchor, don't fit on the page) - tables/graphic frames that are too large to fit on a page - Tables with too-greedy Keep with next/previous settings - Tables with straddled columns - Pages with disconnected text frames (or no body text frame at all) On 12-Mar-14 12:15 AM, Pam Harper wrote: I have all of my books set for single-sided with Delete Empty Pages. Lately extra blank pages are showing on many documents even after I save (which almost always clears out empty pages) or select Remove Overrides when going from master view to page view (another reliable way for deleting extra pages). But they still remain, and I can only get rid of them manually. I use Frame 10 on a 64-bit Windows 7 system. Today I worked on a 100 page file where the document shrank considerably to about 50 pages. And again, even after saving and generating the book, the extra pages still remained. These pages show after the end of the section mark. What could be causing this? Pam ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as shmue...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Blank pages
And note that the Next Available option can only be chosen when you are setting pagination from the *book file* window. FrameMaker keeps separate file-level pagination properties in each component file and book-level pagination properties in each book file that use the components. Next Available has no meaning in the single file context (because there is no preceding file), so it's not available in the menu. Another possible cause of Pam's problem is that pages that have no visible content may not be truly empty from FrameMaker's perspective. For example, any page that has had a specific non-default master page applied is *not empty* because it contains a master page specification as a property. Manually placed frames can also cause problems even if they are empty of any content because they still exist as objects on the page. -Fred Ridder From: craig...@hotmail.com To: phar...@bailiwick.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Blank pages Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:12:24 -0500 Make sure your pagination setting select Next Available Page rather than Read From File. Craig From: phar...@bailiwick.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Blank pages Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 22:15:28 + I have all of my books set for single-sided with Delete Empty Pages. Lately extra blank pages are showing on many documents even after I save (which almost always clears out empty pages) or select Remove Overrides when going from master view to page view (another reliable way for deleting extra pages). But they still remain, and I can only get rid of them manually. I use Frame 10 on a 64-bit Windows 7 system. Today I worked on a 100 page file where the document shrank considerably to about 50 pages. And again, even after saving and generating the book, the extra pages still remained. These pages show after the end of the section mark. What could be causing this? Pam ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as craig...@hotmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/craigede%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as docu...@hotmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Blank pages
Also, if you have a master page for blank pages, make sure it doesn't have a text box on it that is set to be editable on the body pages. That had me pulling my hair out a few weeks ago. Lisa From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Craig Ede Sent: 03 12, 2014 10:12 AM To: Pam Harper; framers Subject: RE: Blank pages Make sure your pagination setting select Next Available Page rather than Read From File. Craig From: phar...@bailiwick.commailto:phar...@bailiwick.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Blank pages Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 22:15:28 + I have all of my books set for single-sided with Delete Empty Pages. Lately extra blank pages are showing on many documents even after I save (which almost always clears out empty pages) or select Remove Overrides when going from master view to page view (another reliable way for deleting extra pages). But they still remain, and I can only get rid of them manually. I use Frame 10 on a 64-bit Windows 7 system. Today I worked on a 100 page file where the document shrank considerably to about 50 pages. And again, even after saving and generating the book, the extra pages still remained. These pages show after the end of the section mark. What could be causing this? Pam ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as craig...@hotmail.commailto:craig...@hotmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/craigede%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.commailto:listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ** Confidentiality Notice The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and intended for use only by the person(s) or organization listed in the address. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender at O'Neil Associates, Inc., immediately. Any copying, dissemination, or distribution of this communication, other than by the intended recipient, is strictly prohibited. ** ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Blank Pages in Online Help
Erin Easter wrote: Hi, I found an topic in the list's archive about blank pages showing up in online help, which is a problem I'm having. The answer posted didn't really help so I thought I'd repost the question with a few more details. I'm using FrameMaker 7.1 and WebWorks Publisher to generate both Webhelp and MS HTML Help. A blank page shows up after every single topic. The problem is that these blank pages are part of the navigation so previous and next buttons go to them and will go to page not found error if you just remove them. I have checked all the settings in FrameMaker to make sure blank pages are a removed and the Double-Sided 1st Page Side setting is set to Next Available. Does anyone have any idea where these blank pages are coming from? Below is the original post I found in the archive: Erin, Are you setting the pagination in the individual files or in the book window? The book window settings will override the file settings. Also make sure there are no blank pages remaining in the topic files. Even with Remove Blank Pages set, blank pages may remain if they contain invisible items like empty frames or text lines, or if they use any master page other than default left/right. HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com When the flag is unfurled, all reason is in the trumpet. -- Ukrainian proverb ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Blank Pages in Online Help
Hi, I've had that problem, only mine were after the chapter title. I never solved it, so I use the mini-TOC to fill up the blank page. Each chapter has a mini-TOC and I don't have blank pages in my Help. Katy Katy Wegner Senior Technical Writer Direct: 303.217.9028 [EMAIL PROTECTED] LeftHand Networks Main: 303.449.4100 Sales: 1.866.4.IP-SANS www.lefthandnetworks.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Combs, Richard Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 1:41 PM To: Melissa Di Natale; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Blank Pages in Online Help Melissa Di Natale Right now in my Frame documents I have no blank pages (I have it set so that any empty pages are deleted). But when I convert in Webworks for online help I'm getting a blank page at the end of every chapter. Does anybody know how to get rid of this? I'm wondering if it's because I have Frame set to be double sided for when it's printed. Since WebWorks doesn't do anything to your FM files (except read them), I assume these blank pages are in the MIF files that WebWorks creates in the project's Temp folder. So why do you care about their pagination? If those blank pages are really empty, they have zero effect on the help output and are completely irrelevant. You shouldn't even be aware of them, since you shouldn't be doing anything manually with those MIF files. Maybe I'm not understanding the issue. :-} Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/katy.wegner%40leftha ndnetworks.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Blank Pages in Online Help
Sorry, all. My earlier reply was not about FrameMaker. I had a mental list-lapse. Katy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Combs, Richard Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 1:41 PM To: Melissa Di Natale; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Blank Pages in Online Help Melissa Di Natale Right now in my Frame documents I have no blank pages (I have it set so that any empty pages are deleted). But when I convert in Webworks for online help I'm getting a blank page at the end of every chapter. Does anybody know how to get rid of this? I'm wondering if it's because I have Frame set to be double sided for when it's printed. Since WebWorks doesn't do anything to your FM files (except read them), I assume these blank pages are in the MIF files that WebWorks creates in the project's Temp folder. So why do you care about their pagination? If those blank pages are really empty, they have zero effect on the help output and are completely irrelevant. You shouldn't even be aware of them, since you shouldn't be doing anything manually with those MIF files. Maybe I'm not understanding the issue. :-} Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/katy.wegner%40leftha ndnetworks.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
re: Blank Pages in Online Help
I ran into a bug recently where I saw no blank pages, but they appeared in a PDF generated using automated scripts. Here was what happened: template 1 ws converted to template 2 and then template 3 using Framescript. Somehow the framescript introduced a bug in one of the tables whereby content in the table was duplicated on 2 pages. This was only apparent in the Frame document when you highlighted the entire table. The table had to be deleted and re-created. Then the mystery page went away. Depending on what you are using to generate online help, I could see the tool adding the blank page because the ending chapter paragraph tag is empty, or because like you say you have the doc set to print double-sided. -meg ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Blank Pages in Online Help
Melissa Di Natale Right now in my Frame documents I have no blank pages (I have it set so that any empty pages are deleted). But when I convert in Webworks for online help I'm getting a blank page at the end of every chapter. Does anybody know how to get rid of this? I'm wondering if it's because I have Frame set to be double sided for when it's printed. Since WebWorks doesn't do anything to your FM files (except read them), I assume these blank pages are in the MIF files that WebWorks creates in the project's Temp folder. So why do you care about their pagination? If those blank pages are really empty, they have zero effect on the help output and are completely irrelevant. You shouldn't even be aware of them, since you shouldn't be doing anything manually with those MIF files. Maybe I'm not understanding the issue. :-} Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
