Re: FM12 questions

2015-06-23 Thread John Sgammato
The Fm12 package feature includes all the files in the book and all the
images in an images subfolder. It does not get images referenced from an
adjacent folder (I have one called Resources that includes \images with the
master page images).
I normally use FrameScript and the ArchiveFM.FSO free script at
http://framescript.com/framescript-6-script-library/
It zips up all the files and images in use, maintaining their folder
structure. For example, if you have one image in a folder on your desktop,
and everything else is 19 subfolders down, it will get all 20 levels to
make sure it includes that one orphan.
This feature is very useful for collecting all the referenced images that
are used, and not the rest. I run ArchiveFM.fso once to get a clean copy,
then I delete all images in the original folder and copy the archived ones
into the images folder - this way I delete all the unused images but keep
all those that I am actually using.

On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 8:54 AM, thomas.zei...@xcerra.com wrote:

 Hi Ken,
 as far I could check the FM12  packager does not extract referenced
 graphics files to the zip file.
 We use the  Squidds Finalyser plugin,  which gathers all book files,
 graphics files, text-insets into a specified folder, rearranging all
 references and links to the new folder stucture.
 They have a 30 day trail version, here is the link:
 http://www.squidds.de/files/techcomm/user_upload/software/20140701_3.0.0020.zip
 . Perhaps you may give it a try.

 Mit freundlichen Grüßen
 Best Regards

 Thomas Zeisig


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 Framers framers@lists.frameusers.com
 *Betreff:*
 FM12 questions
 Questions for all you FrameMaker 12 users out there.

 1. Is it true that Adobe has officially built (incorporated) into FM 12 a
 stable, accurate book archiving feature (so well-done by the late Bruce
 Foster through FM 8)?

 2. If so, how well does it function? We at my company use FM 11 along with
 the third-party book archiving script for FM9 and later made available
 after Mr. Foster's passing, and have consistent problems with how this
 script creates two copies of each FM chapter file (one in the main folder
 and another in the book Insets folder) with almost all external
 (chapter-to-chapter) x-refs broken so that pdf files generated from books
 archived using this script also have broken external x-refs.

 3. What is the upgrade price for we who use FM 11?

 Thanks in advance,

 -- Ken in Atlanta
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Re: FM12 questions

2015-06-23 Thread thomas . zeisig
Hi Ken,
as far I could check the FM12  packager does not extract referenced 
graphics files to the zip file.
We use the  Squidds Finalyser plugin,  which gathers all book files, 
graphics files, text-insets into a specified folder, rearranging all 
references and links to the new folder stucture.
They have a 30 day trail version, here is the link: 
http://www.squidds.de/files/techcomm/user_upload/software/20140701_3.0.0020.zip 
. Perhaps you may give it a try.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Best Regards

Thomas Zeisig

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Skype: mul-tzeisig

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Betreff:
FM12 questions
Questions for all you FrameMaker 12 users out there.

1. Is it true that Adobe has officially built (incorporated) into FM 12 a 
stable, accurate book archiving feature (so well-done by the late Bruce 
Foster through FM 8)?

2. If so, how well does it function? We at my company use FM 11 along with 
the third-party book archiving script for FM9 and later made available 
after Mr. Foster's passing, and have consistent problems with how this 
script creates two copies of each FM chapter file (one in the main folder 
and another in the book Insets folder) with almost all external 
(chapter-to-chapter) x-refs broken so that pdf files generated from books 
archived using this script also have broken external x-refs.

3. What is the upgrade price for we who use FM 11?

Thanks in advance,

-- Ken in Atlanta___


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RE: FM12 questions

2015-06-22 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
Always use a non-production machine to download Trial versions ;)

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ken Poshedly
Sent: June-22-15 11:50 AM
To: Craig Ede; framers
Subject: Re: FM12 questions

Thanks Craig,

The Extendscript version is the one we downloaded and use here because there 
was no other alternative available.

So the Packager feature creates a zip file. OK. But then is that just a 
simple gathering of the relevant FM book, chapter and image files or can one 
open the book and its member chapter in that zip file and generate a pdf file 
with all external and internal x-refs intact (just like you could with Bruce 
Foster's archive plug-in for FM 8)?

That last part is REALLY important to us here.

After seeing all the online snafus experienced by others who downloaded trial 
versions of Adobe software only to see it wipe out the previous version, I'm 
afraid to go that route.

-- Ken in Atlanta


On Monday, June 22, 2015 11:37 AM, Craig Ede 
craig...@hotmail.commailto:craig...@hotmail.com wrote:

There is an Archiver Extendscript that came out after the release of FM10 but 
that had problems.

FM 2015 (aka FM 13) has a Packaging feature that puts all book content into a 
single zip file. I haven't tried it, but I was going to recommend it to a 
former employer who had book referencing graphics in a willy-nilly fashion. 
This would really help him get things into single folders.
http://www.adobe.com/content/dam/acom/en/products/framemaker/framemaker_2015/pdf/FM_2015_VERSION_COMPARISION.pdf

According to that PDF, FM 12 has the Packager, too. Upgrade price to FM 2015 is 
as cited at the end of the PDF reference in the link above.

Craig

Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 15:23:11 +
From: poshe...@bellsouth.netmailto:poshe...@bellsouth.net
To: framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FM12 questions
Questions for all you FrameMaker 12 users out there.

1. Is it true that Adobe has officially built (incorporated) into FM 12 a 
stable, accurate book archiving feature (so well-done by the late Bruce Foster 
through FM 8)?
2. If so, how well does it function? We at my company use FM 11 along with the 
third-party book archiving script for FM9 and later made available after Mr. 
Foster's passing, and have consistent problems with how this script creates two 
copies of each FM chapter file (one in the main folder and another in the book 
Insets folder) with almost all external (chapter-to-chapter) x-refs broken so 
that pdf files generated from books archived using this script also have broken 
external x-refs.
3. What is the upgrade price for we who use FM 11?

Thanks in advance,

-- Ken in Atlanta

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Re: FM12 questions

2015-06-22 Thread David Spreadbury
Ken,I have used the Packaging option in FM 12 and find it to function exactly 
as Bruce Fosters Archive.As far as pricing goes, you best bet to to query the 
Adobe website.Dave Spreadbury
 


 On Monday, June 22, 2015 10:24 AM, Ken Poshedly poshe...@bellsouth.net 
wrote:
   

 Questions for all you FrameMaker 12 users out there.
1. Is it true that Adobe has officially built (incorporated) into FM 12 a 
stable, accurate book archiving feature (so well-done by the late Bruce Foster 
through FM 8)?

2. If so, how well does it function? We at my company use FM 11 along with the 
third-party book archiving script for FM9 and later made available after Mr. 
Foster's passing, and have consistent problems with how this script creates two 
copies of each FM chapter file (one in the main folder and another in the book 
Insets folder) with almost all external (chapter-to-chapter) x-refs broken so 
that pdf files generated from books archived using this script also have broken 
external x-refs.

3. What is the upgrade price for we who use FM 11?
Thanks in advance,
-- Ken in Atlanta

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RE: FM12 questions

2015-06-22 Thread Craig Ede
There is an Archiver Extendscript that came out after the release of FM10 but 
that had problems.

FM 2015 (aka FM 13) has a Packaging feature that puts all book content into a 
single zip file. I haven't tried it, but I was going to recommend it to a 
former employer who had book referencing graphics in a willy-nilly fashion. 
This would really help him get things into single folders.
http://www.adobe.com/content/dam/acom/en/products/framemaker/framemaker_2015/pdf/FM_2015_VERSION_COMPARISION.pdf

According to that PDF, FM 12 has the Packager, too. Upgrade price to FM 2015 is 
as cited at the end of the PDF reference in the link above.

Craig 

Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 15:23:11 +
From: poshe...@bellsouth.net
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FM12 questions

Questions for all you FrameMaker 12 users out there.
1. Is it true that Adobe has officially built (incorporated)  into FM 12 a 
stable, accurate book archiving feature (so well-done by the late Bruce Foster 
through FM 8)?

2. If so, how well does it function? We at my company use FM 11 along with the 
third-party book archiving script for FM9 and later made available after Mr. 
Foster's passing, and have consistent problems with how this script creates two 
copies of each FM chapter file (one in the main folder and another in the book 
Insets folder) with almost all external (chapter-to-chapter) x-refs broken so 
that pdf files generated from books archived using this script also have broken 
external x-refs.

3. What is the upgrade price for we who use FM 11?
Thanks in advance,
-- Ken in Atlanta

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