Re: Fw: RE: paste special ...text option
Peter Rule wrote: You are correct, I am cut/copy and pasting within a Frame doc and the, otherwise useful suggestion to edit the maker.ini file has no effect on the paste special order in this context. Thanks anyway, looks like I'll just have to suffer that extra click. You don't have to suffer an extra click. In fact, you don't have to suffer *any* clicks after positioning your cursor, if you forgo the mouse and use keyboard shortcuts. You'll also increase your productivity enormously over time. For the case in point, (on Windoze) type Alt-e, s, t, Enter, and your copied material is pasted as text in less time than it would take just to open the Edit menu by mousing. The sequence is easy to remember, too -- (e)dit, (s)pecial, (t)ext. HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com The Alt key is your friend. Get Firefox! http://tinyurl.com/8q9c5 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: paste special ...text option
Steve Cavanaugh wrote: There is an easier approach. HOVtext is a public domain system utility that automatically strips formatting from items you have copied to the clipboard. So when you paste, it has already been reduced to simple text. I've been using it here for a while now, and I can finally copy and paste from the keyboard without having to go through Paste Special. Check it out: http://hovklan.com/hovtext/ HovText looks useful, Steve, thanks for the link. But does it acually work for copying and pasting strictly within FM (which uses its own internal clipboard, not the Windows clipboard)? Or is it strictly for Windows clipboard operations, such as pasting something from another application into FM (which the maker.ini setting controls)? Thanks! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: paste special ...text option
It seems to work on both clipboards from tests I just performed here. Once installed, you get a system tray icon that is green in the center. Green means strip the formatting. If you click the icon once, the green turns to red, which means the HOVtext tool is disabled and the clipboard works as normal. Click again and it's back to green. That makes it easy to go back and forth from normal behavior to clean text behavior. I love it! Steve Cavanaugh Sr. Technical Writer NAT Seattle Inc. -Original Message- From: Combs, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 10:41 AM To: Steve Cavanaugh; Peter Rule; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: paste special ...text option Steve Cavanaugh wrote: There is an easier approach. HOVtext is a public domain system utility that automatically strips formatting from items you have copied to the clipboard. So when you paste, it has already been reduced to simple text. I've been using it here for a while now, and I can finally copy and paste from the keyboard without having to go through Paste Special. Check it out: http://hovklan.com/hovtext/ HovText looks useful, Steve, thanks for the link. But does it acually work for copying and pasting strictly within FM (which uses its own internal clipboard, not the Windows clipboard)? Or is it strictly for Windows clipboard operations, such as pasting something from another application into FM (which the maker.ini setting controls)? Thanks! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: paste special ...text option
Brilliant. Thanks to all for their suggestions. I am now extra-click free. The winner is HOVtext. Its like someone designed an application just for me! And so easy to use; it just works straight away. I am forever wanting to paste-special ...text in all kinds of contexts and forever getting frustrated by the extra clicks etc. I will use this tool alot. -Pete -Original message- From: Steve Cavanaugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 07:01:15 +1000 To: Combs, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: paste special ...text option It seems to work on both clipboards from tests I just performed here. Once installed, you get a system tray icon that is green in the center. Green means strip the formatting. If you click the icon once, the green turns to red, which means the HOVtext tool is disabled and the clipboard works as normal. Click again and it's back to green. That makes it easy to go back and forth from normal behavior to clean text behavior. I love it! Steve Cavanaugh Sr. Technical Writer NAT Seattle Inc. -Original Message- From: Combs, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 10:41 AM To: Steve Cavanaugh; Peter Rule; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: paste special ...text option Steve Cavanaugh wrote: There is an easier approach. HOVtext is a public domain system utility that automatically strips formatting from items you have copied to the clipboard. So when you paste, it has already been reduced to simple text. I've been using it here for a while now, and I can finally copy and paste from the keyboard without having to go through Paste Special. Check it out: http://hovklan.com/hovtext/ HovText looks useful, Steve, thanks for the link. But does it acually work for copying and pasting strictly within FM (which uses its own internal clipboard, not the Windows clipboard)? Or is it strictly for Windows clipboard operations, such as pasting something from another application into FM (which the maker.ini setting controls)? Thanks! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Fw: RE: paste special ...text option
-Original message- From: "Peter Rule" li...@indite.com.au Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 08:40:06 +1000 To: "Fred Ridder" docudoc at hotmail.com Subject: RE: paste special ...text option Yes, thankyou Fred (and everyone else). You are correct, I am cut/copy and pasting within a Frame doc and the, otherwise useful suggestion to edit the maker.ini file has no effect on the paste special order in this context. Thanks anyway, looks like I'll just have to suffer that extra click. Cheers, Pete -Original message- From: "Fred Ridder" docu...@hotmail.com Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 01:40:04 +1000 To: kethier at travelthepath.com Subject: RE: paste special ...text option > Sorry, Kay, but this useful trick (which was also suggested by Mark Southee, > Rick Quatro, and Winifred Reng) is not going to do what Peter needs. > > Peter complains that Text is the *third* option in his Paste Special dialog, > and that fact indicates that he is cutting (or copying) and pasting > content from *within*FrameMaker*. If he were pasting content from > an external application (e.g. MS Word) via the Windows clipboard, > the Text option would be the more like the fifth or sixth item in the list. > > The problem is that the ClipboardFormatsPriorities item in maker.ini only > affects pasting from the Windows clipboard. It does *not* affect the > paste operation for content that is coming from a FrameMaker file. > The only way to paste FrameMaker content as unformatted text is to > use Paste Special. And that's why Peter wants to change the order > of items in that dialog's list. Unfortunately, I don't believe that there > is any way to alter that list, particularly since it is a context-sensitive > list. > The ClipboardFormatsPriorities parameter does not affect the order of > items in the Paste Special dialog's list; it only affects the behavior of > the standard paste command (e.g. Ctrl+P) so that you don't have > to use Paste Special as often. > > It's also important to remember that maker.ini does not exist in the Mac > version of FrameMaker, so that this ClipboardFormatsPriorities trick is > useless on that platform. > > My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. > Fred Ridder > Intel > Parsippany, NJ > > >From: "Sales at Bright Path" > >Reply-To: kethier at travelthepath.com > >To: "'Peter Rule'" , > >Subject: RE: paste special ...text option > >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 09:08:41 -0400 > > > >Hi Pete: > > > >This may be adjusted in the "maker.ini" file within your FrameMaker install > >folder. The maker.ini is a text file so you can easily open it in a tool > >like Notepad and edit it. > > > >By moving TEXT to the start of the line: > > > >ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF, TEXT > > > >you are able to change Frame's behavior so that a regular Paste will paste > >as text and you don't have to do Paste Special. > > > >Good luck, > > > >Kay > > > >PS - backup your maker.ini file before making changes. > > > >.K. > > > > > >Kay Ethier > >Senior Trainer & Consultant > >Bright Path Solutions > >FRAMEMAKER 2006 CHAUTAUQUA (conference): http://www.travelthepath.com/conf/ > > > > > > > > > >-Original Message- > >From: Peter Rule > > > >Hello framers, > > > >Does anyone know of a way to default "text" as the first option on the > >"paste-special" option box. "text" is currently third in the list and I > >would love for it to be first (saving me having to select it). > > > >Any help appreciated. > > > >Cheers, > > > >Pete > >___ > > > >___ > > > > > >You are currently subscribed to Framers as DocuDoc at hotmail.com. > > > >Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to > >framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > >or visit > >http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com > > > >Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit > >http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > _ > Add fun gadgets and colorful themes to express yourself on Windows Live > Spaces > http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp007001msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.get.live.com/spaces/features >
Fw: RE: paste special ...text option
Peter Rule wrote: > You are correct, I am cut/copy and pasting within a Frame doc and > the, otherwise useful suggestion to edit the maker.ini file has no > effect on the paste special order in this context. > > Thanks anyway, looks like I'll just have to suffer that extra click. > You don't have to suffer an extra click. In fact, you don't have to suffer *any* clicks after positioning your cursor, if you forgo the mouse and use keyboard shortcuts. You'll also increase your productivity enormously over time. For the case in point, (on Windoze) type Alt-e, s, t, Enter, and your copied material is pasted as text in less time than it would take just to open the Edit menu by mousing. The sequence is easy to remember, too -- (e)dit, (s)pecial, (t)ext. HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com "The Alt key is your friend." Get Firefox! http://tinyurl.com/8q9c5
Re: paste special ...text option
Pete, There is a setting in your maker.ini to do this. ClipboardFormatsPriorities=TEXT, FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com Hello framers, Does anyone know of a way to default text as the first option on the paste-special option box. text is currently third in the list and I would love for it to be first (saving me having to select it). Any help appreciated. Cheers, Pete ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: paste special ...text option
Hi Pete: This may be adjusted in the maker.ini file within your FrameMaker install folder. The maker.ini is a text file so you can easily open it in a tool like Notepad and edit it. By moving TEXT to the start of the line: ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF, TEXT you are able to change Frame's behavior so that a regular Paste will paste as text and you don't have to do Paste Special. Good luck, Kay PS - backup your maker.ini file before making changes. .K. Kay Ethier Senior Trainer Consultant Bright Path Solutions FRAMEMAKER 2006 CHAUTAUQUA (conference): http://www.travelthepath.com/conf/ -Original Message- From: Peter Rule Hello framers, Does anyone know of a way to default text as the first option on the paste-special option box. text is currently third in the list and I would love for it to be first (saving me having to select it). Any help appreciated. Cheers, Pete ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: paste special ...text option
Hi Peter, Easy. Open your maker.ini file with a text editor and change the order of the ClipboardFormatsPriorities formats. Best regards Winfried -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]On Behalf Of Peter Rule Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 4:11 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: paste special ...text option Hello framers, Does anyone know of a way to default text as the first option on the paste-special option box. text is currently third in the list and I would love for it to be first (saving me having to select it). Any help appreciated. Cheers, Pete ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: paste special ...text option
Sorry, Kay, but this useful trick (which was also suggested by Mark Southee, Rick Quatro, and Winifred Reng) is not going to do what Peter needs. Peter complains that Text is the *third* option in his Paste Special dialog, and that fact indicates that he is cutting (or copying) and pasting content from *within*FrameMaker*. If he were pasting content from an external application (e.g. MS Word) via the Windows clipboard, the Text option would be the more like the fifth or sixth item in the list. The problem is that the ClipboardFormatsPriorities item in maker.ini only affects pasting from the Windows clipboard. It does *not* affect the paste operation for content that is coming from a FrameMaker file. The only way to paste FrameMaker content as unformatted text is to use Paste Special. And that's why Peter wants to change the order of items in that dialog's list. Unfortunately, I don't believe that there is any way to alter that list, particularly since it is a context-sensitive list. The ClipboardFormatsPriorities parameter does not affect the order of items in the Paste Special dialog's list; it only affects the behavior of the standard paste command (e.g. Ctrl+P) so that you don't have to use Paste Special as often. It's also important to remember that maker.ini does not exist in the Mac version of FrameMaker, so that this ClipboardFormatsPriorities trick is useless on that platform. My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. Fred Ridder Intel Parsippany, NJ From: Sales at Bright Path [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Peter Rule' [EMAIL PROTECTED],framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: paste special ...text option Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 09:08:41 -0400 Hi Pete: This may be adjusted in the maker.ini file within your FrameMaker install folder. The maker.ini is a text file so you can easily open it in a tool like Notepad and edit it. By moving TEXT to the start of the line: ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF, TEXT you are able to change Frame's behavior so that a regular Paste will paste as text and you don't have to do Paste Special. Good luck, Kay PS - backup your maker.ini file before making changes. .K. Kay Ethier Senior Trainer Consultant Bright Path Solutions FRAMEMAKER 2006 CHAUTAUQUA (conference): http://www.travelthepath.com/conf/ -Original Message- From: Peter Rule Hello framers, Does anyone know of a way to default text as the first option on the paste-special option box. text is currently third in the list and I would love for it to be first (saving me having to select it). Any help appreciated. Cheers, Pete ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. _ Add fun gadgets and colorful themes to express yourself on Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp007001msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.get.live.com/spaces/features ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Fw: RE: paste special ...text option
-Original message- From: Peter Rule [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 08:40:06 +1000 To: Fred Ridder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: paste special ...text option Yes, thankyou Fred (and everyone else). You are correct, I am cut/copy and pasting within a Frame doc and the, otherwise useful suggestion to edit the maker.ini file has no effect on the paste special order in this context. Thanks anyway, looks like I'll just have to suffer that extra click. Cheers, Pete -Original message- From: Fred Ridder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 01:40:04 +1000 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: paste special ...text option Sorry, Kay, but this useful trick (which was also suggested by Mark Southee, Rick Quatro, and Winifred Reng) is not going to do what Peter needs. Peter complains that Text is the *third* option in his Paste Special dialog, and that fact indicates that he is cutting (or copying) and pasting content from *within*FrameMaker*. If he were pasting content from an external application (e.g. MS Word) via the Windows clipboard, the Text option would be the more like the fifth or sixth item in the list. The problem is that the ClipboardFormatsPriorities item in maker.ini only affects pasting from the Windows clipboard. It does *not* affect the paste operation for content that is coming from a FrameMaker file. The only way to paste FrameMaker content as unformatted text is to use Paste Special. And that's why Peter wants to change the order of items in that dialog's list. Unfortunately, I don't believe that there is any way to alter that list, particularly since it is a context-sensitive list. The ClipboardFormatsPriorities parameter does not affect the order of items in the Paste Special dialog's list; it only affects the behavior of the standard paste command (e.g. Ctrl+P) so that you don't have to use Paste Special as often. It's also important to remember that maker.ini does not exist in the Mac version of FrameMaker, so that this ClipboardFormatsPriorities trick is useless on that platform. My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. Fred Ridder Intel Parsippany, NJ From: Sales at Bright Path [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Peter Rule' [EMAIL PROTECTED],framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: paste special ...text option Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 09:08:41 -0400 Hi Pete: This may be adjusted in the maker.ini file within your FrameMaker install folder. The maker.ini is a text file so you can easily open it in a tool like Notepad and edit it. By moving TEXT to the start of the line: ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF, TEXT you are able to change Frame's behavior so that a regular Paste will paste as text and you don't have to do Paste Special. Good luck, Kay PS - backup your maker.ini file before making changes. .K. Kay Ethier Senior Trainer Consultant Bright Path Solutions FRAMEMAKER 2006 CHAUTAUQUA (conference): http://www.travelthepath.com/conf/ -Original Message- From: Peter Rule Hello framers, Does anyone know of a way to default text as the first option on the paste-special option box. text is currently third in the list and I would love for it to be first (saving me having to select it). Any help appreciated. Cheers, Pete ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. _ Add fun gadgets and colorful themes to express yourself on Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp007001msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.get.live.com/spaces/features ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
