RE: Weird autonumbering problem with Framemaker
Eva Whitley wrote: Well, after literally hours of work, I've managed to trace the problem to a bad second level heading that was causing the re-set. However, fixing it meant trying to re-do the autonumbering on the headings, and I just can't figure out how to structure the headings so Heading 1.1 in Section 2 re-sets as 1.1, not as 4.1 (there are three headings at that level in the first Section). I've asked my boss for the assistance of someone who has had FrameMaker training to try to fix the problem but I accept that it's beyond me. If each section of the book is a separate .fm file contained in a .book file (and it should be), and if the autonumber settings of the pgf formats themselves are correct, then the solution is simple: 1) In the book window, select all the section files, and then select Format Document Numbering. 2) In the Numbering Properties dialog, click the Paragraph tab, select Restart Paragraph Numbering, and click Set. 3) At the bottom of book window, click the Update/Generate button. Training is a great idea, but if your boss says there's no budget for it, maybe they'll spring for a copy of Adobe's FrameMaker Classroom in a Book (Google that title for lots of sources). You can educate yourself pretty quickly by working through it (and maybe adding an FM reference book or two to your bookshelf). HTH! Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Weird autonumbering problem with Framemaker
Well, after literally hours of work, I've managed to trace the problem to a bad second level heading that was causing the re-set. However, fixing it meant trying to re-do the autonumbering on the headings, and I just can't figure out how to structure the headings so Heading 1.1 in Section 2 re-sets as 1.1, not as 4.1 (there are three headings at that level in the first Section). I've asked my boss for the assistance of someone who has had FrameMaker training to try to fix the problem but I accept that it's beyond me. I also made a case for getting some training at our departmental meeting today, so we'll see what develops there. I can't send the document out (in contains passwords) but I may be able to send our template out if anyone wants to see how the document is sent up now. Again, thanks for the help. Maybe someday I'll get training and be able to help another newbie! Eva Whitley wrote: First off, thanks to all those who helped me with my document containing both 81/2x11 and 11x17 pages. As suggested, I pulled out the 11x17 pages into a new document that will be another chapter in the book. Now I'm seeing a problem in autonumbering that is defying all my newbie efforts to fix. As mentioned before, we are running FM8 on PCs. We have styles defined for Tables and Figures. The Autonumber Format (from the Numbering tab on Paragraph Designer) for Tables is Table $chapnum.$volnum-n -n+ so the first table in Section 5 should be Table 5.1-5-1 . And, indeed that's what the first table in Section 5 is labeled. Several pages later, at the next table the Autonumber Format is Table $chapnum.$volnum-n -n+ that should be labeling the table Table 5.1-5-2. But instead it's coming out as Table 5.1-5-1 . Skipping forward several pages, the next table is labeled Table 5.1-5.2. The one after that is Table 5.1-5-3. The one after that is labeled Table 5.1-5-1 . The Autonumber Format is Table $chapnum.$volnum-n -n+ Anyone have any idea of what's causing this? And more importantly, how it can be fixed? I've tried deleting the tables, importing the info as unformatted text, and if the new table is inserted right after the old one, it numbers correctly, but if it's inserted back into the original location I get the same problem. I've recreated the tables into a new document (and the autonumbers behave in that) but when I paste them into the original document--same problem. I've copied the code and pasted in to the Autonumber Format text box, and that hasn't fixed it. I'm truly stumped. What am I missing? -- Eva Whitley, ETOSS Contract 301-713-1833x191 SSMC-2, 16129 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Weird autonumbering problem with Framemaker
I second Lin's solution! I usually keep my autonumbering documentation on a table on a reference page. This allows me to have access to it when using the file, rather than remembering the last place I left the .xls file! -Matt Matt Sullivan GRAFIX Training m...@roundpeg.com www.roundpeg.com Office 714 960-6840 Cell text 714 585-2335 SMS message 7145852...@vtext.com skype: mattatroundpeg LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/grafixtraining facebook| plaxo Click to tell me the social media sites you belong to -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lin Sims Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 1:00 PM To: Eva Whitley Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Weird autonumbering problem with Framemaker On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Eva Whitley eva.whit...@noaa.gov wrote: Well, after literally hours of work, I've managed to trace the problem to a bad second level heading that was causing the re-set. However, fixing it meant trying to re-do the autonumbering on the headings, and I just can't figure out how to structure the headings so Heading 1.1 in Section 2 re-sets as 1.1, not as 4.1 (there are three headings at that level in the first Section). I've asked my boss for the assistance of someone who has had FrameMaker training to try to fix the problem but I accept that it's beyond me. I also made a case for getting some training at our departmental meeting today, so we'll see what develops there. I can't send the document out (in contains passwords) but I may be able to send our template out if anyone wants to see how the document is sent up now. Again, thanks for the help. Maybe someday I'll get training and be able to help another newbie! What helped me when I had more complicated numbering strings was to set up a spreadsheet. The first column contains the tags that need to be included in the numbering series. The first row contained a description of what the number was for. You plug the numbering blocks into the cells, and it's pretty easy to track when a reset needs to occur and the like. Remember when using a numbering string to provide it with a series tag (e.g., H: for headings) and to have the same number of blocks in each tag's string. That is, if your Heading1 is 1. and Heading2 is 1.1 and resets after each Heading1, then BOTH tags should contain 2 blocks. For example: Heading1 numbering string is H:n=1. =0 Heading2 numbering string is H: .n+ HTH -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as m...@grafixtraining.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40grafixtraining.co m Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Weird autonumbering problem with Framemaker
Lin Sims offered Eva some good advice on numbering: Remember when using a numbering string to provide it with a series tag (e.g., H: for headings) and to have the same number of blocks in each tag's string. That is, if your Heading1 is 1. and Heading2 is 1.1 and resets after each Heading1, then BOTH tags should contain 2 blocks. For example: Heading1 numbering string is H:n=1. =0 Heading2 numbering string is H: .n+ A key point that many people initially miss is that when the numbering of some paragraph formats needs to interact (e.g. if a caption style needs to include the numbering of its parent section, or if a heading needs to reset the numbering of its subsections) all of those paragraph formats must use the *same* series label. As I remember, Eva's numbering includes chapter, volume, and section numbers in the numbering of her figures, so all of those tags must use the same numbering series. As I remember, Eva's template was not using a series label, so that *all* numbering in the document will potentially interact with itself, which is a potential maintenance nightmare. But since *some* of the numbering needs to interact, it's likely that any ad hoc attempt to define some series labels will cause more problems than it fixes. In my experience, the *only* way to resolve the kind of situation Eva is facing is to get someone competent to redesign the template with a rational numbering scheme. Just my $.02... -Fred Ridder ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Weird autonumbering problem with Framemaker
Note to TCS1 users? My heading and body pgf formats have the following autonumber format so that they restart the list numbering: N: =0 =0 If you are using TCS1 to pull in FM files and build help, using: N: =0 =0 may not re-set your number lists to one. Due to a bug, I found I had to apply a specific tag to reset my number stream. For instance, all my first steps now need to use N:n=1.\t I don't know if this bug has been repaired in TCS2. Mary Ann Howell Hikari Publishing www.hikaripub.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Weird autonumbering problem with Framemaker
qui...@airmail.net wrote: I would note, that while the series letter is very important, and will regularize the numbering stream, it seems likely that Eva is using a single stream in order to restart the numbering sequence at the start of each section/chapter without using a separate start style. If that is indeed the case, she should still use a single series identifier, but use it in all instances of numbering. snip Sorry, but that's just not true. From FM6 onward, you can restart pgf numbering by selecting Restart Paragraph Numbering in Numbering Properties. There's no reason to put all your number sequences into a single, complex stream, where you have to keep straight which pgf formats restart which counters. Eva mentioned only table and figure numbering, yet her table autonumber format has 7 or 8 placeholders (the examples given aren't consistent). That's rather complex. And her table numbering is starting over here and there within the chapter, so as you pointed out earlier, one of the other pgf formats in that autonumber stream is resetting numbering (Eva, look for pgfs in which the last counter of the autonumber format is =0). In fact, that table autonumber format (Table $chapnum.$volnum-n -n+) is an odd combination of the old (pre-FM6) and new way of doing numbering, and I suspect that at some point someone tried to graft the new building blocks into the old scheme instead of rethinking the whole thing. Eva seems to think that Table 5.1-5-1 is what the first table should be. I think it's a bit odd to use the $chapnum building block for sections and $volnum for their subsections, and it would never enter my mind to include the subsection number in table or figure numbering, but maybe that's just me. But what is the third digit (produced by the n counter in the above autonumber format) identifying? And what pgf tag increments it? In all the examples Eva provided, it has the same value as $chapnum -- is it incremented by the chapter/section title, and could it be just a remnant of the scheme before $chapnum was available? And what about all those placeholders -- surely, there aren't 7 levels of numbered lists! What else is in this numbering stream? Personally, I think a two-part table/figure number is sufficient. My autonumber formats for table and figure captions are in separate series (T and F) and look like this: T:Table\ $chapnum\+n+\t F:Figure\ $chapnum\+n+\t The \ is a non-breaking space, \+ is a non-breaking hyphen, and \t is a tab. Nothing resets the counters (pgf numbering is set to restart for each chapter, chapter numbering increments). I only use two levels of numbered lists. My autonumber formats for ListNum and ListAlpha pgfs use the N numbering series and look like this: N:n+ =0\t N: a+\t My heading and body pgf formats have the following autonumber format so that they restart the list numbering: N: =0 =0 Indented body pgfs and anything else that I want to permit within a numbererd list don't have an autonumber. There are a few other autonumbers (e.g., numbered lists in table text), but they're similarly simple -- no more than two counters. Simplify, simplify! (IMHO, YMMV, etc.) Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Weird autonumbering problem with Framemaker
Richard, I agree with simplifying, however, that may not be possible in a corporate environement with numerous documents that use the same template. Without a lot of effort. The reasoning behind using a reset of the stream by a previous paragraph number is to automate the numbering without human intervention, which clicking on the reset pgf numbering button requires. It is older technology, however, it works and ensures that the renumbering occurs even if you use the content in a different context. But all of this is conjecture when looking at the problem at hand. Your suggestion is right on the money on looking for a numbering sequence that might be resetting the series. Scott ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Weird autonumbering problem with Framemaker
Check that the styles with numbering formats that fall between those tables are replicating the proper stream. Someone is either off a placeholder, or resetting your numbers. Scott Eva Whitley wrote: First off, thanks to all those who helped me with my document containing both 81/2x11 and 11x17 pages. As suggested, I pulled out the 11x17 pages into a new document that will be another chapter in the book. Now I'm seeing a problem in autonumbering that is defying all my newbie efforts to fix. As mentioned before, we are running FM8 on PCs. We have styles defined for Tables and Figures. The Autonumber Format (from the Numbering tab on Paragraph Designer) for Tables is Table $chapnum.$volnum-n -n+ so the first table in Section 5 should be Table 5.1-5-1 . And, indeed that's what the first table in Section 5 is labeled. Several pages later, at the next table the Autonumber Format is Table $chapnum.$volnum-n -n+ that should be labeling the table Table 5.1-5-2. But instead it's coming out as Table 5.1-5-1 . Skipping forward several pages, the next table is labeled Table 5.1-5.2. The one after that is Table 5.1-5-3. The one after that is labeled Table 5.1-5-1 . The Autonumber Format is Table $chapnum.$volnum-n -n+ Anyone have any idea of what's causing this? And more importantly, how it can be fixed? I've tried deleting the tables, importing the info as unformatted text, and if the new table is inserted right after the old one, it numbers correctly, but if it's inserted back into the original location I get the same problem. I've recreated the tables into a new document (and the autonumbers behave in that) but when I paste them into the original document--same problem. I've copied the code and pasted in to the Autonumber Format text box, and that hasn't fixed it. I'm truly stumped. What am I missing? ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Weird autonumbering problem with Framemaker
In the book file, select each chapter, then right click and select Numbering Paragraphs. Is it set to increment? And did you update and save the book before checking the table numbering, to force a refresh? Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Eva Whitley eva.whit...@noaa.gov wrote: First off, thanks to all those who helped me with my document containing both 81/2x11 and 11x17 pages. As suggested, I pulled out the 11x17 pages into a new document that will be another chapter in the book. Now I'm seeing a problem in autonumbering that is defying all my newbie efforts to fix. As mentioned before, we are running FM8 on PCs. We have styles defined for Tables and Figures. The Autonumber Format (from the Numbering tab on Paragraph Designer) for Tables is Table $chapnum.$volnum-n -n+ so the first table in Section 5 should be Table 5.1-5-1 . And, indeed that's what the first table in Section 5 is labeled. Several pages later, at the next table the Autonumber Format is Table $chapnum.$volnum-n -n+ that should be labeling the table Table 5.1-5-2. But instead it's coming out as Table 5.1-5-1 . Skipping forward several pages, the next table is labeled Table 5.1-5.2. The one after that is Table 5.1-5-3. The one after that is labeled Table 5.1-5-1 . The Autonumber Format is Table $chapnum.$volnum-n -n+ Anyone have any idea of what's causing this? And more importantly, how it can be fixed? I've tried deleting the tables, importing the info as unformatted text, and if the new table is inserted right after the old one, it numbers correctly, but if it's inserted back into the original location I get the same problem. I've recreated the tables into a new document (and the autonumbers behave in that) but when I paste them into the original document--same problem. I've copied the code and pasted in to the Autonumber Format text box, and that hasn't fixed it. I'm truly stumped. What am I missing? -- Eva Whitley, ETOSS Contract 301-713-1833x191 SSMC-2, 16129 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Weird autonumbering problem with Framemaker
Scott's idea is something I didn't notice when you published your numbering strings. Insert a letter in front of the string to specify a unique numbering stream -- you can have 50+ of them, but it's best to make each type unique. Specifying a specific stream ensures that other tags won't reset one particular tag. For example, you could make your table string unique by preceding it with a t: to make it: t:Table $chapnum.$volnum-n -n+ . Then save and update. For Figures, you may use an f like this: f:Figure $chapnum.$volnum-n -n+ Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 3:18 PM, qui...@airmail.net wrote: Check that the styles with numbering formats that fall between those tables are replicating the proper stream. Someone is either off a placeholder, or resetting your numbers. Scott Eva Whitley wrote: First off, thanks to all those who helped me with my document containing both 81/2x11 and 11x17 pages. As suggested, I pulled out the 11x17 pages into a new document that will be another chapter in the book. Now I'm seeing a problem in autonumbering that is defying all my newbie efforts to fix. As mentioned before, we are running FM8 on PCs. We have styles defined for Tables and Figures. The Autonumber Format (from the Numbering tab on Paragraph Designer) for Tables is Table $chapnum.$volnum-n -n+ so the first table in Section 5 should be Table 5.1-5-1 . And, indeed that's what the first table in Section 5 is labeled. Several pages later, at the next table the Autonumber Format is Table $chapnum.$volnum-n -n+ that should be labeling the table Table 5.1-5-2. But instead it's coming out as Table 5.1-5-1 . Skipping forward several pages, the next table is labeled Table 5.1-5.2. The one after that is Table 5.1-5-3. The one after that is labeled Table 5.1-5-1 . The Autonumber Format is Table $chapnum.$volnum-n -n+ Anyone have any idea of what's causing this? And more importantly, how it can be fixed? I've tried deleting the tables, importing the info as unformatted text, and if the new table is inserted right after the old one, it numbers correctly, but if it's inserted back into the original location I get the same problem. I've recreated the tables into a new document (and the autonumbers behave in that) but when I paste them into the original document--same problem. I've copied the code and pasted in to the Autonumber Format text box, and that hasn't fixed it. I'm truly stumped. What am I missing? ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Weird autonumbering problem with Framemaker
One of the main advantages of Art's suggested method should be that your strings will contain less building blocks. Since you are using $chapnum we know you are not using FM5.5 or earlier, so your strings are likely overly complex. For instance, your t: series will not require placeholders for all sections and figures. The same holds true for your Sections (s:) series and your Figures (f:) series. They all will only need building blocks for the related sections within the series. It's a double bonus...less errors and less confusion! -Matt Matt Sullivan GRAFIX Training m...@roundpeg.com www.roundpeg.com Office 714 960-6840 Cell 714 585-2335 skype: mattatroundpeg LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/grafixtraining facebook| plaxo Click to tell me the social media sites you belong to -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 1:18 PM To: Eva Whitley; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Weird autonumbering problem with Framemaker Scott's idea is something I didn't notice when you published your numbering strings. Insert a letter in front of the string to specify a unique numbering stream -- you can have 50+ of them, but it's best to make each type unique. Specifying a specific stream ensures that other tags won't reset one particular tag. For example, you could make your table string unique by preceding it with a t: to make it: t:Table $chapnum.$volnum-n -n+ . Then save and update. For Figures, you may use an f like this: f:Figure $chapnum.$volnum-n -n+ Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 3:18 PM, qui...@airmail.net wrote: Check that the styles with numbering formats that fall between those tables are replicating the proper stream. Someone is either off a placeholder, or resetting your numbers. Scott Eva Whitley wrote: First off, thanks to all those who helped me with my document containing both 81/2x11 and 11x17 pages. As suggested, I pulled out the 11x17 pages into a new document that will be another chapter in the book. Now I'm seeing a problem in autonumbering that is defying all my newbie efforts to fix. As mentioned before, we are running FM8 on PCs. We have styles defined for Tables and Figures. The Autonumber Format (from the Numbering tab on Paragraph Designer) for Tables is Table $chapnum.$volnum-n -n+ so the first table in Section 5 should be Table 5.1-5-1 . And, indeed that's what the first table in Section 5 is labeled. Several pages later, at the next table the Autonumber Format is Table $chapnum.$volnum-n -n+ that should be labeling the table Table 5.1-5-2. But instead it's coming out as Table 5.1-5-1 . Skipping forward several pages, the next table is labeled Table 5.1-5.2. The one after that is Table 5.1-5-3. The one after that is labeled Table 5.1-5-1 . The Autonumber Format is Table $chapnum.$volnum-n -n+ Anyone have any idea of what's causing this? And more importantly, how it can be fixed? I've tried deleting the tables, importing the info as unformatted text, and if the new table is inserted right after the old one, it numbers correctly, but if it's inserted back into the original location I get the same problem. I've recreated the tables into a new document (and the autonumbers behave in that) but when I paste them into the original document--same problem. I've copied the code and pasted in to the Autonumber Format text box, and that hasn't fixed it. I'm truly stumped. What am I missing? ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gma il.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as m...@grafixtraining.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40grafixtraining.co m Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list
Re: Weird autonumbering problem with Framemaker
I would note, that while the series letter is very important, and will regularize the numbering stream, it seems likely that Eva is using a single stream in order to restart the numbering sequence at the start of each section/chapter without using a separate start style. If that is indeed the case, she should still use a single series identifier, but use it in all instances of numbering. Doing so will ensure that there aren't any radical burbs in numbering. I remember doing similar, though with a much simpler sequence stream. If the series ID is left off, then the behavior she mentions would occur. Scott Matt Sullivan wrote: One of the main advantages of Art's suggested method should be that your strings will contain less building blocks. Since you are using $chapnum we know you are not using FM5.5 or earlier, so your strings are likely overly complex. For instance, your t: series will not require placeholders for all sections and figures. The same holds true for your Sections (s:) series and your Figures (f:) series. They all will only need building blocks for the related sections within the series. It's a double bonus...less errors and less confusion! -Matt Matt Sullivan GRAFIX Training m...@roundpeg.com www.roundpeg.com Office 714 960-6840 Cell 714 585-2335 skype: mattatroundpeg LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/grafixtraining facebook| plaxo Click to tell me the social media sites you belong to -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 1:18 PM To: Eva Whitley; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Weird autonumbering problem with Framemaker Scott's idea is something I didn't notice when you published your numbering strings. Insert a letter in front of the string to specify a unique numbering stream -- you can have 50+ of them, but it's best to make each type unique. Specifying a specific stream ensures that other tags won't reset one particular tag. For example, you could make your table string unique by preceding it with a t: to make it: t:Table $chapnum.$volnum-n -n+ . Then save and update. For Figures, you may use an f like this: f:Figure $chapnum.$volnum-n -n+ Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 3:18 PM, qui...@airmail.net wrote: Check that the styles with numbering formats that fall between those tables are replicating the proper stream. Someone is either off a placeholder, or resetting your numbers. Scott Eva Whitley wrote: First off, thanks to all those who helped me with my document containing both 81/2x11 and 11x17 pages. As suggested, I pulled out the 11x17 pages into a new document that will be another chapter in the book. Now I'm seeing a problem in autonumbering that is defying all my newbie efforts to fix. As mentioned before, we are running FM8 on PCs. We have styles defined for Tables and Figures. The Autonumber Format (from the Numbering tab on Paragraph Designer) for Tables is Table $chapnum.$volnum-n -n+ so the first table in Section 5 should be Table 5.1-5-1 . And, indeed that's what the first table in Section 5 is labeled. Several pages later, at the next table the Autonumber Format is Table $chapnum.$volnum-n -n+ that should be labeling the table Table 5.1-5-2. But instead it's coming out as Table 5.1-5-1 . Skipping forward several pages, the next table is labeled Table 5.1-5.2. The one after that is Table 5.1-5-3. The one after that is labeled Table 5.1-5-1 . The Autonumber Format is Table $chapnum.$volnum-n -n+ Anyone have any idea of what's causing this? And more importantly, how it can be fixed? I've tried deleting the tables, importing the info as unformatted text, and if the new table is inserted right after the old one, it numbers correctly, but if it's inserted back into the original location I get the same problem. I've recreated the tables into a new document (and the autonumbers behave in that) but when I paste them into the original document--same problem. I've copied the code and pasted in to the Autonumber Format text box, and that hasn't fixed it. I'm truly stumped. What am I missing? ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr
