RE: Runnning Windows on Mac news

2006-04-14 Thread Michael O'Neill
I just watched someone here at the office run Parallels and switch between
OS X and Windows.  It looked pretty slick, especially with the copy and
paste support between the two Operating Systems.

He said setup was pretty painless and unbelievably fast.  He was running
Win2003 and OS X on a Powerbook Pro (dual core).  

I only witnessed, and didn't have time to work with, anything myself...but
it seemed to be very fast in both operating systems.  Of course, I wouldn't
want to run Photoshop in Windows and Final Cut in OS X at the same time...
;P

Pretty slick and impressive nonetheless.

-Michael

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Subject: Re: Runnning Windows on Mac news

At 3:58 PM -0700 4/13/06, Pat Christenson wrote:
The NY Times had an article today about Parallels Workstation, a 
beta software that allows you to run OS X and Windows (any version, 
not just XP) simultaneously on an intel-powered Mac. You don't have 
to reboot when you switch. You can copy/paste between systems. You 
have to network them to share files. The free download is 
available at http://www.parallels.com/.

This sounds like the most acceptable solution for the I don't wanna 
buy a PC just to run FrameMaker folks (of which I am one, although 
I already have both a Mac and a PC).

Pat Christenson


Boot Camp enables you to run Windows XP natively. The beta copy 
already has the native drivers. There is no speed degradation. It is 
not emulation.

Parallels seems to be virtulization, but not emulation. It is a true 
beta and does not yet have all the drivers needed.

The caveat is that you need an Intel Mac to run these programs.

Scott Turner
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Runnning Windows on Mac news

2006-04-14 Thread qui...@airmail.net
At 3:58 PM -0700 4/13/06, Pat Christenson wrote:
>The NY Times had an article today about Parallels Workstation, a 
>beta software that allows you to run OS X and Windows (any version, 
>not just XP) simultaneously on an intel-powered Mac. You don't have 
>to reboot when you switch. You can copy/paste between systems. You 
>have to "network" them to share files. The free download is 
>available at http://www.parallels.com/.
>
>This sounds like the most acceptable solution for the "I don't wanna 
>buy a PC just to run FrameMaker" folks (of which I am one, although 
>I already have both a Mac and a PC).
>
>Pat Christenson


Boot Camp enables you to run Windows XP natively. The beta copy 
already has the native drivers. There is no speed degradation. It is 
not emulation.

Parallels seems to be virtulization, but not emulation. It is a true 
beta and does not yet have all the drivers needed.

The caveat is that you need an Intel Mac to run these programs.

Scott Turner



Runnning Windows on Mac news

2006-04-14 Thread Michael O'Neill
I just watched someone here at the office run Parallels and switch between
OS X and Windows.  It looked pretty slick, especially with the copy and
paste support between the two Operating Systems.

He said setup was pretty painless and unbelievably fast.  He was running
Win2003 and OS X on a Powerbook Pro (dual core).  

I only witnessed, and didn't have time to work with, anything myself...but
it seemed to be very fast in both operating systems.  Of course, I wouldn't
want to run Photoshop in Windows and Final Cut in OS X at the same time...
;P

Pretty slick and impressive nonetheless.

-Michael

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From: quills at airmail.net [mailto:qui...@airmail.net] 
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 11:32 PM
To: Pat Christenson; framers List
Subject: Re: Runnning Windows on Mac news

At 3:58 PM -0700 4/13/06, Pat Christenson wrote:
>The NY Times had an article today about Parallels Workstation, a 
>beta software that allows you to run OS X and Windows (any version, 
>not just XP) simultaneously on an intel-powered Mac. You don't have 
>to reboot when you switch. You can copy/paste between systems. You 
>have to "network" them to share files. The free download is 
>available at http://www.parallels.com/.
>
>This sounds like the most acceptable solution for the "I don't wanna 
>buy a PC just to run FrameMaker" folks (of which I am one, although 
>I already have both a Mac and a PC).
>
>Pat Christenson


Boot Camp enables you to run Windows XP natively. The beta copy 
already has the native drivers. There is no speed degradation. It is 
not emulation.

Parallels seems to be virtulization, but not emulation. It is a true 
beta and does not yet have all the drivers needed.

The caveat is that you need an Intel Mac to run these programs.

Scott Turner
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Runnning Windows on Mac news

2006-04-13 Thread Pat Christenson
The NY Times had an article today about Parallels Workstation, a beta 
software that allows you to run OS X and Windows (any version, not just 
XP) simultaneously on an intel-powered Mac. You don't have to reboot 
when you switch. You can copy/paste between systems. You have to 
network them to share files. The free download is available at 
http://www.parallels.com/.


This sounds like the most acceptable solution for the I don't wanna 
buy a PC just to run FrameMaker folks (of which I am one, although I 
already have both a Mac and a PC).


Pat Christenson

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Re: Runnning Windows on Mac news

2006-04-13 Thread Peter Gold

Hi, Pat:

From a user's viewpoint, Parallels is similar to Microsoft's 
Virtual PC. Tech-heads say the the technologies are somewhat 
different, but from the user side, the experience is similar:


* You pay for a copy of Windows, and install it on your Mac.

* You pay for a copy of any Windows software you need, and install it 
on the Windows side.


* You pay a penalty in speed because VPC and Parallels both have to 
imitate Windows.


Each generation of faster machines makes the speed loss somewhat 
less. Older Windows applications that were developed for slower 
environments exhibit less slow-down, but newer resource-hungry 
applications struggle.


I'm still surprised by how nimble FM under Classic on my older TiBook 
*seems*, compared to InDesign CS2 under OS X Panther 10.3.9; partly 
this is due to Classic taking some of my maximum load of 1GB RAM, and 
my FM being set to a large memory partition under Classic, and partly 
even 1GB under OS X is borderline for ID CS2, Bridge, and Version 
Cue, without Classic. However, on my newer Windows laptop and WinXP, 
FM 7.2 is nimble enough, and has all the updated features and bug-fix 
patches that aren't available since FM 7 was discontinued on 
Macintosh.


MacTel's story is only beginning, however. Who knows what might 
happen next for FM users?



Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices

At 3:58 PM -0700 4/13/06, Pat Christenson wrote:
The NY Times had an article today about Parallels Workstation, a 
beta software that allows you to run OS X and Windows (any version, 
not just XP) simultaneously on an intel-powered Mac. You don't have 
to reboot when you switch. You can copy/paste between systems. You 
have to network them to share files. The free download is 
available at http://www.parallels.com/.


This sounds like the most acceptable solution for the I don't wanna 
buy a PC just to run FrameMaker folks (of which I am one, although 
I already have both a Mac and a PC).


Pat Christenson

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Re: Runnning Windows on Mac news

2006-04-13 Thread quills

At 3:58 PM -0700 4/13/06, Pat Christenson wrote:
The NY Times had an article today about Parallels Workstation, a 
beta software that allows you to run OS X and Windows (any version, 
not just XP) simultaneously on an intel-powered Mac. You don't have 
to reboot when you switch. You can copy/paste between systems. You 
have to network them to share files. The free download is 
available at http://www.parallels.com/.


This sounds like the most acceptable solution for the I don't wanna 
buy a PC just to run FrameMaker folks (of which I am one, although 
I already have both a Mac and a PC).


Pat Christenson



Boot Camp enables you to run Windows XP natively. The beta copy 
already has the native drivers. There is no speed degradation. It is 
not emulation.


Parallels seems to be virtulization, but not emulation. It is a true 
beta and does not yet have all the drivers needed.


The caveat is that you need an Intel Mac to run these programs.

Scott Turner
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Runnning Windows on Mac news

2006-04-13 Thread Pat Christenson
The NY Times had an article today about Parallels Workstation, a beta 
software that allows you to run OS X and Windows (any version, not just 
XP) simultaneously on an intel-powered Mac. You don't have to reboot 
when you switch. You can copy/paste between systems. You have to 
"network" them to share files. The free download is available at 
http://www.parallels.com/.

This sounds like the most acceptable solution for the "I don't wanna 
buy a PC just to run FrameMaker" folks (of which I am one, although I 
already have both a Mac and a PC).

Pat Christenson




Runnning Windows on Mac news

2006-04-13 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Pat:

 From a user's viewpoint, "Parallels" is similar to Microsoft's 
"Virtual PC." Tech-heads say the the technologies are somewhat 
different, but from the user side, the experience is similar:

* You pay for a copy of Windows, and install it on your Mac.

* You pay for a copy of any Windows software you need, and install it 
on the Windows "side."

* You pay a penalty in speed because VPC and Parallels both have to 
imitate Windows.

Each generation of faster machines makes the speed loss somewhat 
less. Older Windows applications that were developed for slower 
environments exhibit less slow-down, but newer resource-hungry 
applications struggle.

I'm still surprised by how nimble FM under Classic on my older TiBook 
*seems*, compared to InDesign CS2 under OS X Panther 10.3.9; partly 
this is due to Classic taking some of my maximum load of 1GB RAM, and 
my FM being set to a large memory partition under Classic, and partly 
even 1GB under OS X is borderline for ID CS2, Bridge, and Version 
Cue, without Classic. However, on my newer Windows laptop and WinXP, 
FM 7.2 is nimble enough, and has all the updated features and bug-fix 
patches that aren't available since FM 7 was discontinued on 
Macintosh.

MacTel's story is only beginning, however. Who knows what might 
happen next for FM users?


Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices

At 3:58 PM -0700 4/13/06, Pat Christenson wrote:
>The NY Times had an article today about Parallels Workstation, a 
>beta software that allows you to run OS X and Windows (any version, 
>not just XP) simultaneously on an intel-powered Mac. You don't have 
>to reboot when you switch. You can copy/paste between systems. You 
>have to "network" them to share files. The free download is 
>available at http://www.parallels.com/.
>
>This sounds like the most acceptable solution for the "I don't wanna 
>buy a PC just to run FrameMaker" folks (of which I am one, although 
>I already have both a Mac and a PC).
>
>Pat Christenson