RE: Starting over - Slightly OT

2007-01-22 Thread Niels Fanøe
Hi,

If you're dealing with a lot of content reuse, you may want to at least 
consider AuthorIT. That'll let you use Word in a fairly safe setup - or so they 
say! Check it out - there's an evaluation version on their home page at 
http://www.authorit.com/.

Not affiliated - not even a user - total Word-shunning Frame setup here ;o)!

-Niels

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joseph Sims
Sent: 19. januar 2007 19:42
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Starting over - Slightly OT

Framers, 

It's been a full three months since I last saw a Frame doc, having changed 
careers, companies, industries and most things that were familiar. I'm now 
tasked with managing the proposal process at a new place.

Our proposals are 50-100 page documents (8-12 per month) with a mixture of 
original sales writing, stock content, and responses to questions.
The deadlines are tight, and involve multiple, fairly willing contributors. 
It's like technical writing on speed, IMO. Deliverables are about 60% PDF and 
40% paper. I think paper is declining rapidly. 

The process I inherited is Word-based. So my nice, clean template gets fairly 
polluted right away when pasting in client RFP questions, stock answers, and 
material created in Word by people who aren't in the document business.

The good thing is there are few boundaries on change here. This process can 
literally be scrapped if I have a superior replacement that makes good sense. 
So if you could do it all over - what would you do?

My thoughts:

A. Office 2007 Word - This is supposed to have structured authoring.
We'll wait for a demo. 

B. Structured Frame - I've never designed a structured template, and would I 
have to buy seats for all contributors? 

C. Structured Frame with Frame Server - I haven't heard a lot of people here 
mention it. We manage a file based, and growing content repository to help with 
proposal questions. Does it make sense?

D. Arbortext - Pay to have all document issues resolved. 

Did I miss any? Did I miss the point of some? 

Thanks,
Joe
 

D. Joseph Sims
Communications Group Manager
Sutherland Global Services 
1160 Pittsford-Victor Rd. 
Pittsford, New York 14534 
Office - (585) 586-5757 *2447
Cell - (585) 967-4187

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Starting over - Slightly OT

2007-01-22 Thread Niels Fanøe
Hi,

If you're dealing with a lot of content reuse, you may want to at least 
consider AuthorIT. That'll let you use Word in a fairly safe setup - or so they 
say! Check it out - there's an evaluation version on their home page at 
http://www.authorit.com/.

Not affiliated - not even a user - total Word-shunning Frame setup here ;o)!

-Niels

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From: framers-bounces+nfa=maconomy.dk at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-bounces+nfa=maconomy...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
Joseph Sims
Sent: 19. januar 2007 19:42
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Starting over - Slightly OT

Framers, 

It's been a full three months since I last saw a Frame doc, having changed 
careers, companies, industries and most things that were familiar. I'm now 
tasked with managing the proposal process at a new place.

Our proposals are 50-100 page documents (8-12 per month) with a mixture of 
original sales writing, stock content, and responses to questions.
The deadlines are tight, and involve multiple, fairly willing contributors. 
It's like technical writing on speed, IMO. Deliverables are about 60% PDF and 
40% paper. I think paper is declining rapidly. 

The process I inherited is Word-based. So my nice, clean template gets fairly 
polluted right away when pasting in client RFP questions, stock answers, and 
material created in Word by people who aren't in the document business.

The good thing is there are few boundaries on change here. This process can 
literally be scrapped if I have a superior replacement that makes good sense. 
So if you could do it all over - what would you do?

My thoughts:

A. Office 2007 Word - This is supposed to have structured authoring.
We'll wait for a demo. 

B. Structured Frame - I've never designed a structured template, and would I 
have to buy seats for all contributors? 

C. Structured Frame with Frame Server - I haven't heard a lot of people here 
mention it. We manage a file based, and growing content repository to help with 
proposal questions. Does it make sense?

D. Arbortext - Pay to have all document issues resolved. 

Did I miss any? Did I miss the point of some? 

Thanks,
Joe


D. Joseph Sims
Communications Group Manager
Sutherland Global Services 
1160 Pittsford-Victor Rd. 
Pittsford, New York 14534 
Office - (585) 586-5757 *2447
Cell - (585) 967-4187

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Starting over - Slightly OT

2007-01-20 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 13:42 -0500 19/1/07, Joseph Sims wrote:

>My thoughts:
>
>A. Office 2007 Word - This is supposed to have structured authoring.
>We'll wait for a demo.

Really? What does it mean by 'structured authoring' in this context? I'd be 
very interested to know. I've read the downloadable puff on Word 2007, and it 
doesn't seem to be talking about structured authoring in the sense that I 
understand the term. As far as I can see, M$ has implemented a 'read-only' flag 
that can be applied to selected text, and inflated it to the level of a major 
new feature that they've called 'Content Controls'. Knowing Word, it's probably 
just another hack to get in the way.

>B. Structured Frame - I've never designed a structured template, and
>would I have to buy seats for all contributors?

Big cost, big learning curve, but ultimately a great way to work. You might 
need a consultant to get things up ands running quickly.

>C. Structured Frame with Frame Server - I haven't heard a lot of people
>here mention it. We manage a file based, and growing content repository
>to help with proposal questions. Does it make sense?
>
>D. Arbortext - Pay to have all document issues resolved.

I have no experience of these, but others might.

-- 
Steve



Starting over - Slightly OT

2007-01-19 Thread Joseph Sims
Framers, 

It's been a full three months since I last saw a Frame doc, having
changed careers, companies, industries and most things that were
familiar. I'm now tasked with managing the proposal process at a new
place.

Our proposals are 50-100 page documents (8-12 per month) with a mixture
of original sales writing, stock content, and responses to questions.
The deadlines are tight, and involve multiple, fairly willing
contributors. It's like technical writing on speed, IMO. Deliverables
are about 60% PDF and 40% paper. I think paper is declining rapidly. 

The process I inherited is Word-based. So my nice, clean template gets
fairly polluted right away when pasting in client RFP questions, stock
answers, and material created in Word by people who aren't in the
document business.

The good thing is there are few boundaries on change here. This process
can literally be scrapped if I have a superior replacement that makes
good sense. So if you could do it all over - what would you do?

My thoughts:

A. Office 2007 Word - This is supposed to have structured authoring.
We'll wait for a demo. 

B. Structured Frame - I've never designed a structured template, and
would I have to buy seats for all contributors? 

C. Structured Frame with Frame Server - I haven't heard a lot of people
here mention it. We manage a file based, and growing content repository
to help with proposal questions. Does it make sense?

D. Arbortext - Pay to have all document issues resolved. 

Did I miss any? Did I miss the point of some? 

Thanks, 
Joe
 

D. Joseph Sims
Communications Group Manager
Sutherland Global Services 
1160 Pittsford-Victor Rd. 
Pittsford, New York 14534 
Office - (585) 586-5757 *2447
Cell - (585) 967-4187

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Starting over - Slightly OT

2007-01-19 Thread Joseph Sims
Framers, 

It's been a full three months since I last saw a Frame doc, having
changed careers, companies, industries and most things that were
familiar. I'm now tasked with managing the proposal process at a new
place.

Our proposals are 50-100 page documents (8-12 per month) with a mixture
of original sales writing, stock content, and responses to questions.
The deadlines are tight, and involve multiple, fairly willing
contributors. It's like technical writing on speed, IMO. Deliverables
are about 60% PDF and 40% paper. I think paper is declining rapidly. 

The process I inherited is Word-based. So my nice, clean template gets
fairly polluted right away when pasting in client RFP questions, stock
answers, and material created in Word by people who aren't in the
document business.

The good thing is there are few boundaries on change here. This process
can literally be scrapped if I have a superior replacement that makes
good sense. So if you could do it all over - what would you do?

My thoughts:

A. Office 2007 Word - This is supposed to have structured authoring.
We'll wait for a demo. 

B. Structured Frame - I've never designed a structured template, and
would I have to buy seats for all contributors? 

C. Structured Frame with Frame Server - I haven't heard a lot of people
here mention it. We manage a file based, and growing content repository
to help with proposal questions. Does it make sense?

D. Arbortext - Pay to have all document issues resolved. 

Did I miss any? Did I miss the point of some? 

Thanks, 
Joe


D. Joseph Sims
Communications Group Manager
Sutherland Global Services 
1160 Pittsford-Victor Rd. 
Pittsford, New York 14534 
Office - (585) 586-5757 *2447
Cell - (585) 967-4187