Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator
I am not sure what you mean by cleaning up graphics. If you mean mainly the scaling and setting the pixelation, The GIMP (http://www.gimp.org) is a free (as in speech and as in beer) alternative, and it you can get with it a very good, free handbook, help files etc. The only downside is that The GIMP does not support CMYK (4-color separation). However ther is a plugin that can handle these and, of course you can send a RGB uncompressed TIFF file for CMYK adaption at the printshop etc. With Photoshop and FM under Windoze, you would have to, as so many times explained on this list, save the CMYK Photoshop file as ESP and import the ESP into FM for the CMYK not to be changed into RGB by Windoze/FM. I find it easier to use The GIMP to "clean up" my screen shots, photos etc. than PhotoShop and I have the CS. What I am using the most out of the CS suite is Illustrator (logoes, various vector drawings) and InDesign. One of the main practical differences between bitmap and vector is that vector is fully scalable, since it is a collection of commands on e. g. where to start a line, where to end it and whether it is a straight line, arc, etc., much like a PostScript font, whereas the bitmap is not talking about lines or fills (even though the bitmap application may do that -- PhotoShop etc) but is just a collection of bits in a given two-dimentional area in a certain order, much as you see on your screen, and therefore, scaling will in most cases mean a certain distortion of the image. Bodvar Bjorgvinsson On 5/26/06, Joe Malin wrote: > My $.02 > > Cleaning up graphics is one of Photoshop's target tasks. If you have the > money, Photoshop is the way to go. > > Creative Suite is worth the price, since it includes Photoshop, > Illustrator, *and* Acrobat Pro. > > You will find that any sufficiently powerful bitmap editing application > is difficult to use. More power usually means more options, which in > turn means more ways to accidentally do something wrong! Fortunately, > Photoshop is one of the world's most popular packages, so all sorts of > help is available. > > Does everyone understand the difference between vector and bitmap > graphics? I can elaborate if necessary. > > Joe > > > Joe Malin > Technical Writer > (408)625-1623 > jmalin at tuvox.com > www.tuvox.com > The views expressed in this document are those of the sender, and do not > necessarily reflect those of TuVox, Inc. >
Re: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator
I am not sure what you mean by cleaning up graphics. If you mean mainly the scaling and setting the pixelation, The GIMP (http://www.gimp.org) is a free (as in speech and as in beer) alternative, and it you can get with it a very good, free handbook, help files etc. The only downside is that The GIMP does not support CMYK (4-color separation). However ther is a plugin that can handle these and, of course you can send a RGB uncompressed TIFF file for CMYK adaption at the printshop etc. With Photoshop and FM under Windoze, you would have to, as so many times explained on this list, save the CMYK Photoshop file as ESP and import the ESP into FM for the CMYK not to be changed into RGB by Windoze/FM. I find it easier to use The GIMP to "clean up" my screen shots, photos etc. than PhotoShop and I have the CS. What I am using the most out of the CS suite is Illustrator (logoes, various vector drawings) and InDesign. One of the main practical differences between bitmap and vector is that vector is fully scalable, since it is a collection of commands on e. g. where to start a line, where to end it and whether it is a straight line, arc, etc., much like a PostScript font, whereas the bitmap is not talking about lines or fills (even though the bitmap application may do that -- PhotoShop etc) but is just a collection of bits in a given two-dimentional area in a certain order, much as you see on your screen, and therefore, scaling will in most cases mean a certain distortion of the image. Bodvar Bjorgvinsson On 5/26/06, Joe Malin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My $.02 Cleaning up graphics is one of Photoshop's target tasks. If you have the money, Photoshop is the way to go. Creative Suite is worth the price, since it includes Photoshop, Illustrator, *and* Acrobat Pro. You will find that any sufficiently powerful bitmap editing application is difficult to use. More power usually means more options, which in turn means more ways to accidentally do something wrong! Fortunately, Photoshop is one of the world's most popular packages, so all sorts of help is available. Does everyone understand the difference between vector and bitmap graphics? I can elaborate if necessary. Joe Joe Malin Technical Writer (408)625-1623 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.tuvox.com The views expressed in this document are those of the sender, and do not necessarily reflect those of TuVox, Inc. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
OT: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator
Cris Reeser wrote: > Does anyone in the group have experience with either of these tools? My > writing group is planning to buy either PhotoShop or Illustrator. We > need a tool to edit graphics that have been added to PowerPoint or > MSWord files. > I have used both since version 1.0 and can't imagine being without either - and I'm not an illustrator. > We get PowerPoint slides to edit and clean up for delivery. In places, > artwork has been pasted into the slide, but contains white boxes that > cover bits of the drawing or text. This method doesn't work in grayscale > because the hidden lines or text show up again. > > We need a tool that lets us remove text in the graphics where we do not > have the source file. > Illustrator is mainly a vector-art editing program, while Photoshop concentrates in pixel-based images. Illustrator will probably do the job for you: if you have Acrobat you can make an Acrobat from PowerPoint and edit it in Illustrator, usually with surprisingly good results. If your bosses can afford it, I'd get them to spring for the Adobe CS2 suite which includes both, plus InDesign (so you can practice for the next or next-but-one FrameMaker). The Pro version includes Acrobat Pro, which you may already have, and GoLive, an (IMHO) useless web-design tool. If they worry about the spend, the best combo is probably Illustrator CS2 plus Photoshop Elements - a cheap cut-down version of Photoshop that doesn't do CMYK, just RGB, but is very cheap and very good at what it does do. best -- Mark Barratt Text Matters Information design: we help explain things using language | design | systems | process improvement __ phone +44 (0)118 986 8313 email markb at textmatters.com skype mark_barratt web http://www.textmatters.com
OT: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator
Sounds like a smarter use of PowerPoint and Word would be the far more economical (time *AND* money) solution. I'm not sure which would be better. Illustrator is geared toward vector illustrations... are these images you need to clean up vector-based? If not, there's PhotoShop... but if all you're doing is making slight edits, save your money and get PaintShop Pro... But more to the point, I'll bet some simple changes to how these PPTs and DOCs are being made would solve your problem. $0 for additional software, and 0 additional time spent cleaning them up. On 5/26/06, Cris Reeser wrote: > Does anyone in the group have experience with either of these tools? My > writing group is planning to buy either PhotoShop or Illustrator. We > need a tool to edit graphics that have been added to PowerPoint or > MSWord files. -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner WWP-Users List Owner Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter http://techcommdood.blogspot.com
Re: OT: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator
Sounds like a smarter use of PowerPoint and Word would be the far more economical (time *AND* money) solution. I'm not sure which would be better. Illustrator is geared toward vector illustrations... are these images you need to clean up vector-based? If not, there's PhotoShop... but if all you're doing is making slight edits, save your money and get PaintShop Pro... But more to the point, I'll bet some simple changes to how these PPTs and DOCs are being made would solve your problem. $0 for additional software, and 0 additional time spent cleaning them up. On 5/26/06, Cris Reeser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does anyone in the group have experience with either of these tools? My writing group is planning to buy either PhotoShop or Illustrator. We need a tool to edit graphics that have been added to PowerPoint or MSWord files. -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner WWP-Users List Owner Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter http://techcommdood.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator
If you plan to get one of them, you might consider getting both as part of the Adobe Creative Suite 2. On the Adobe website, Photoshop is $649, and CS2 is $250 more at $899, but you get "full new versions of Adobe Photoshop CS2, Illustrator CS2, and InDesign CS2 software with new Version Cue CS2, Adobe Bridge, and Adobe Stock Photos." So you get both Photoshop and Illustrator, and InDesign as well. InDesign is a page layout program like Pagemaker - it is what I use for making our installation poster, the covers for our printed manuals, and a quick-reference card. john From: framers-bounces+jsgammato=imprivata@lists.frameusers.com on behalf of Cris Reeser Sent: Fri 5/26/2006 3:57 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: OT: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator Does anyone in the group have experience with either of these tools? My writing group is planning to buy either PhotoShop or Illustrator. We need a tool to edit graphics that have been added to PowerPoint or MSWord files. We get PowerPoint slides to edit and clean up for delivery. In places, artwork has been pasted into the slide, but contains white boxes that cover bits of the drawing or text. This method doesn't work in grayscale because the hidden lines or text show up again. We need a tool that lets us remove text in the graphics where we do not have the source file. Are either of these the right tool for this? Which tool would you recommend? Cris Reeser Sr. Technical Writer ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as jsgammato at imprivata.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jsgammato%40imprivata.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator
Illustrator is mainly for working with vector artwork while Photoshop is mainly for working with bitmap artwork. Photoshop is probably more appropriate for the work you are doing. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com Does anyone in the group have experience with either of these tools? My writing group is planning to buy either PhotoShop or Illustrator. We need a tool to edit graphics that have been added to PowerPoint or MSWord files. We get PowerPoint slides to edit and clean up for delivery. In places, artwork has been pasted into the slide, but contains white boxes that cover bits of the drawing or text. This method doesn't work in grayscale because the hidden lines or text show up again. We need a tool that lets us remove text in the graphics where we do not have the source file. Are either of these the right tool for this? Which tool would you recommend? Cris Reeser Sr. Technical Writer
Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator
Based on what you wrote, and assuming that the graphics you have to edit are not Vectors, I would say Photoshop is the tool for you. You are describing editing pixels, and Photoshop would likely be more appropriate than Illustrator for these tasks. If budget is a concern, you can also try: PaintShopPro $79 US http://www.corel.com/PaintShopPro Free evaluation version available Win only the Gimp **FREE** http://www.gimp.org Win, Mac, Linux, Unix, etc.. -Michael -Original Message- From: Cris Reeser [mailto:c...@magma-da.com] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:58 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: OT: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator Does anyone in the group have experience with either of these tools? My writing group is planning to buy either PhotoShop or Illustrator. We need a tool to edit graphics that have been added to PowerPoint or MSWord files. We get PowerPoint slides to edit and clean up for delivery. In places, artwork has been pasted into the slide, but contains white boxes that cover bits of the drawing or text. This method doesn't work in grayscale because the hidden lines or text show up again. We need a tool that lets us remove text in the graphics where we do not have the source file. Are either of these the right tool for this? Which tool would you recommend? Cris Reeser Sr. Technical Writer ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as moneill at meta-comm.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator
My $.02 Cleaning up graphics is one of Photoshop's target tasks. If you have the money, Photoshop is the way to go. Creative Suite is worth the price, since it includes Photoshop, Illustrator, *and* Acrobat Pro. You will find that any sufficiently powerful bitmap editing application is difficult to use. More power usually means more options, which in turn means more ways to accidentally do something wrong! Fortunately, Photoshop is one of the world's most popular packages, so all sorts of help is available. Does everyone understand the difference between vector and bitmap graphics? I can elaborate if necessary. Joe Joe Malin Technical Writer (408)625-1623 jmalin at tuvox.com www.tuvox.com The views expressed in this document are those of the sender, and do not necessarily reflect those of TuVox, Inc. -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Michael O'Neill Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:11 PM To: 'Cris Reeser'; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator Based on what you wrote, and assuming that the graphics you have to edit are not Vectors, I would say Photoshop is the tool for you. You are describing editing pixels, and Photoshop would likely be more appropriate than Illustrator for these tasks. If budget is a concern, you can also try: PaintShopPro $79 US http://www.corel.com/PaintShopPro Free evaluation version available Win only the Gimp **FREE** http://www.gimp.org Win, Mac, Linux, Unix, etc.. -Michael -Original Message- From: Cris Reeser [mailto:c...@magma-da.com] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:58 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: OT: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator Does anyone in the group have experience with either of these tools? My writing group is planning to buy either PhotoShop or Illustrator. We need a tool to edit graphics that have been added to PowerPoint or MSWord files. We get PowerPoint slides to edit and clean up for delivery. In places, artwork has been pasted into the slide, but contains white boxes that cover bits of the drawing or text. This method doesn't work in grayscale because the hidden lines or text show up again. We need a tool that lets us remove text in the graphics where we do not have the source file. Are either of these the right tool for this? Which tool would you recommend? Cris Reeser Sr. Technical Writer ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as moneill at meta-comm.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm. com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as jmalin at tuvox.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jmalin%40tuvox.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator
My $.02 Cleaning up graphics is one of Photoshop's target tasks. If you have the money, Photoshop is the way to go. Creative Suite is worth the price, since it includes Photoshop, Illustrator, *and* Acrobat Pro. You will find that any sufficiently powerful bitmap editing application is difficult to use. More power usually means more options, which in turn means more ways to accidentally do something wrong! Fortunately, Photoshop is one of the world's most popular packages, so all sorts of help is available. Does everyone understand the difference between vector and bitmap graphics? I can elaborate if necessary. Joe Joe Malin Technical Writer (408)625-1623 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.tuvox.com The views expressed in this document are those of the sender, and do not necessarily reflect those of TuVox, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael O'Neill Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:11 PM To: 'Cris Reeser'; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator Based on what you wrote, and assuming that the graphics you have to edit are not Vectors, I would say Photoshop is the tool for you. You are describing editing pixels, and Photoshop would likely be more appropriate than Illustrator for these tasks. If budget is a concern, you can also try: PaintShopPro $79 US http://www.corel.com/PaintShopPro Free evaluation version available Win only the Gimp **FREE** http://www.gimp.org Win, Mac, Linux, Unix, etc.. -Michael -Original Message- From: Cris Reeser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:58 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: OT: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator Does anyone in the group have experience with either of these tools? My writing group is planning to buy either PhotoShop or Illustrator. We need a tool to edit graphics that have been added to PowerPoint or MSWord files. We get PowerPoint slides to edit and clean up for delivery. In places, artwork has been pasted into the slide, but contains white boxes that cover bits of the drawing or text. This method doesn't work in grayscale because the hidden lines or text show up again. We need a tool that lets us remove text in the graphics where we do not have the source file. Are either of these the right tool for this? Which tool would you recommend? Cris Reeser Sr. Technical Writer ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm. com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jmalin%40tuvox.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator
Based on what you wrote, and assuming that the graphics you have to edit are not Vectors, I would say Photoshop is the tool for you. You are describing editing pixels, and Photoshop would likely be more appropriate than Illustrator for these tasks. If budget is a concern, you can also try: PaintShopPro $79 US http://www.corel.com/PaintShopPro Free evaluation version available Win only the Gimp **FREE** http://www.gimp.org Win, Mac, Linux, Unix, etc.. -Michael -Original Message- From: Cris Reeser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:58 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: OT: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator Does anyone in the group have experience with either of these tools? My writing group is planning to buy either PhotoShop or Illustrator. We need a tool to edit graphics that have been added to PowerPoint or MSWord files. We get PowerPoint slides to edit and clean up for delivery. In places, artwork has been pasted into the slide, but contains white boxes that cover bits of the drawing or text. This method doesn't work in grayscale because the hidden lines or text show up again. We need a tool that lets us remove text in the graphics where we do not have the source file. Are either of these the right tool for this? Which tool would you recommend? Cris Reeser Sr. Technical Writer ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/moneill%40meta-comm.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator
>If you plan to get one of them, you might consider getting both as part of the Adobe Creative Suite 2. On the Adobe website, Photoshop is >$649, and CS2 is $250 more at $899, but you get "full new versions of Adobe Photoshop CS2, Illustrator CS2, and InDesign CS2 software with new Version Cue CS2, Adobe Bridge, and Adobe Stock Photos." So you get both Photoshop and Illustrator, and InDesign as well. InDesign is a page layout program like Pagemaker - it is what I use for making our installation poster, the covers for our printed manuals, and a quick-reference card. John And Adobe Acrobat Professional! Karen L. Zorn Zorn Technologies, Inc. Mesa, AZ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator
>If you plan to get one of them, you might consider getting both as part of the Adobe Creative Suite 2. On the Adobe website, Photoshop is >$649, and CS2 is $250 more at $899, but you get "full new versions of Adobe Photoshop CS2, Illustrator CS2, and InDesign CS2 software with new Version Cue CS2, Adobe Bridge, and Adobe Stock Photos." So you get both Photoshop and Illustrator, and InDesign as well. InDesign is a page layout program like Pagemaker - it is what I use for making our installation poster, the covers for our printed manuals, and a quick-reference card. John And Adobe Acrobat Professional! Karen L. Zorn Zorn Technologies, Inc. Mesa, AZ
RE: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator
If you plan to get one of them, you might consider getting both as part of the Adobe Creative Suite 2. On the Adobe website, Photoshop is $649, and CS2 is $250 more at $899, but you get "full new versions of Adobe Photoshop CS2, Illustrator CS2, and InDesign CS2 software with new Version Cue CS2, Adobe Bridge, and Adobe Stock Photos." So you get both Photoshop and Illustrator, and InDesign as well. InDesign is a page layout program like Pagemaker - it is what I use for making our installation poster, the covers for our printed manuals, and a quick-reference card. john From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Cris Reeser Sent: Fri 5/26/2006 3:57 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: OT: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator Does anyone in the group have experience with either of these tools? My writing group is planning to buy either PhotoShop or Illustrator. We need a tool to edit graphics that have been added to PowerPoint or MSWord files. We get PowerPoint slides to edit and clean up for delivery. In places, artwork has been pasted into the slide, but contains white boxes that cover bits of the drawing or text. This method doesn't work in grayscale because the hidden lines or text show up again. We need a tool that lets us remove text in the graphics where we do not have the source file. Are either of these the right tool for this? Which tool would you recommend? Cris Reeser Sr. Technical Writer ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jsgammato%40imprivata.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator
PhotoShop is more versatile and has a shorter learning curve. Illustrator is good if you are making pin diagrams (semiconductors etc). You can take any screenshot, photo of a product, or a picture and edit it in PhotoShop. Illustrator is a designer. Whatever little I know. Illustrator you can't master over a weekend. Photoshop, you can learn to make basic edits in a day. Nandini -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+nandini=resonate@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+nandini=resonate.com at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Cris Reeser Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:58 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: OT: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator Does anyone in the group have experience with either of these tools? My writing group is planning to buy either PhotoShop or Illustrator. We need a tool to edit graphics that have been added to PowerPoint or MSWord files. We get PowerPoint slides to edit and clean up for delivery. In places, artwork has been pasted into the slide, but contains white boxes that cover bits of the drawing or text. This method doesn't work in grayscale because the hidden lines or text show up again. We need a tool that lets us remove text in the graphics where we do not have the source file. Are either of these the right tool for this? Which tool would you recommend? Cris Reeser Sr. Technical Writer ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as nandini at resonate.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/nandini%40resonate.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator
PhotoShop is more versatile and has a shorter learning curve. Illustrator is good if you are making pin diagrams (semiconductors etc). You can take any screenshot, photo of a product, or a picture and edit it in PhotoShop. Illustrator is a designer. Whatever little I know. Illustrator you can't master over a weekend. Photoshop, you can learn to make basic edits in a day. Nandini -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Cris Reeser Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:58 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: OT: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator Does anyone in the group have experience with either of these tools? My writing group is planning to buy either PhotoShop or Illustrator. We need a tool to edit graphics that have been added to PowerPoint or MSWord files. We get PowerPoint slides to edit and clean up for delivery. In places, artwork has been pasted into the slide, but contains white boxes that cover bits of the drawing or text. This method doesn't work in grayscale because the hidden lines or text show up again. We need a tool that lets us remove text in the graphics where we do not have the source file. Are either of these the right tool for this? Which tool would you recommend? Cris Reeser Sr. Technical Writer ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/nandini%40resonate.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: OT: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator
Cris Reeser wrote: Does anyone in the group have experience with either of these tools? My writing group is planning to buy either PhotoShop or Illustrator. We need a tool to edit graphics that have been added to PowerPoint or MSWord files. I have used both since version 1.0 and can't imagine being without either - and I'm not an illustrator. We get PowerPoint slides to edit and clean up for delivery. In places, artwork has been pasted into the slide, but contains white boxes that cover bits of the drawing or text. This method doesn't work in grayscale because the hidden lines or text show up again. We need a tool that lets us remove text in the graphics where we do not have the source file. Illustrator is mainly a vector-art editing program, while Photoshop concentrates in pixel-based images. Illustrator will probably do the job for you: if you have Acrobat you can make an Acrobat from PowerPoint and edit it in Illustrator, usually with surprisingly good results. If your bosses can afford it, I'd get them to spring for the Adobe CS2 suite which includes both, plus InDesign (so you can practice for the next or next-but-one FrameMaker). The Pro version includes Acrobat Pro, which you may already have, and GoLive, an (IMHO) useless web-design tool. If they worry about the spend, the best combo is probably Illustrator CS2 plus Photoshop Elements - a cheap cut-down version of Photoshop that doesn't do CMYK, just RGB, but is very cheap and very good at what it does do. best -- Mark Barratt Text Matters Information design: we help explain things using language | design | systems | process improvement __ phone +44 (0)118 986 8313 email [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype mark_barratt web http://www.textmatters.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator
Illustrator is mainly for working with vector artwork while Photoshop is mainly for working with bitmap artwork. Photoshop is probably more appropriate for the work you are doing. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com Does anyone in the group have experience with either of these tools? My writing group is planning to buy either PhotoShop or Illustrator. We need a tool to edit graphics that have been added to PowerPoint or MSWord files. We get PowerPoint slides to edit and clean up for delivery. In places, artwork has been pasted into the slide, but contains white boxes that cover bits of the drawing or text. This method doesn't work in grayscale because the hidden lines or text show up again. We need a tool that lets us remove text in the graphics where we do not have the source file. Are either of these the right tool for this? Which tool would you recommend? Cris Reeser Sr. Technical Writer ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
OT: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator
Does anyone in the group have experience with either of these tools? My writing group is planning to buy either PhotoShop or Illustrator. We need a tool to edit graphics that have been added to PowerPoint or MSWord files. We get PowerPoint slides to edit and clean up for delivery. In places, artwork has been pasted into the slide, but contains white boxes that cover bits of the drawing or text. This method doesn't work in grayscale because the hidden lines or text show up again. We need a tool that lets us remove text in the graphics where we do not have the source file. Are either of these the right tool for this? Which tool would you recommend? Cris Reeser Sr. Technical Writer ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
OT: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator
Does anyone in the group have experience with either of these tools? My writing group is planning to buy either PhotoShop or Illustrator. We need a tool to edit graphics that have been added to PowerPoint or MSWord files. We get PowerPoint slides to edit and clean up for delivery. In places, artwork has been pasted into the slide, but contains white boxes that cover bits of the drawing or text. This method doesn't work in grayscale because the hidden lines or text show up again. We need a tool that lets us remove text in the graphics where we do not have the source file. Are either of these the right tool for this? Which tool would you recommend? Cris Reeser Sr. Technical Writer
