RE: conversion table and template

2008-07-21 Thread Lynne A. Price
At 07:46 AM 7/16/2008, Matt Sullivan wrote:
If memory serves, you can import both formats  EDD into the conversion
table to automatically apply both. If not, I'm sure I'll be corrected in a
matter of moments!

Matt,
   Not quite. You can import them into the unstructured documents. While 
theoretically it's only necessary to apply a conversion table to an 
unstructured document once, while you are debugging the conversion table, 
it's helpful to see the results without having to import element 
definitions for each test. Importing the element definitions into the 
unstructured document means that they will be in each structured vesion 
created.

   To get back to Wim's original question, the easiest way to import 
formats and element definitions into many documents is probably to create a 
book containing all the files, select all files in the book, and then 
import templates and element definitions. No need to save the book if you 
do not need it for anything else.

 --Lynne


Lynne A. Price
Text Structure Consulting, Inc.
Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, 
and training
[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.txstruct.com
voice/fax: (510) 583-1505  cell phone: (510) 421-2284 


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conversion table and template

2008-07-21 Thread Lynne A. Price
At 07:46 AM 7/16/2008, Matt Sullivan wrote:
>If memory serves, you can import both formats & EDD into the conversion
>table to automatically apply both. If not, I'm sure I'll be corrected in a
>matter of moments!

Matt,
   Not quite. You can import them into the unstructured documents. While 
theoretically it's only necessary to apply a conversion table to an 
unstructured document once, while you are debugging the conversion table, 
it's helpful to see the results without having to import element 
definitions for each test. Importing the element definitions into the 
unstructured document means that they will be in each structured vesion 
created.

   To get back to Wim's original question, the easiest way to import 
formats and element definitions into many documents is probably to create a 
book containing all the files, select all files in the book, and then 
import templates and element definitions. No need to save the book if you 
do not need it for anything else.

 --Lynne


Lynne A. Price
Text Structure Consulting, Inc.
Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, 
and training
lprice at txstruct.comhttp://www.txstruct.com
voice/fax: (510) 583-1505  cell phone: (510) 421-2284 




conversion table and template

2008-07-16 Thread Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp
Hi,
 
I'm using a conversion tabel to convert a lot of unstructured files to XML.
Is there a way to automatically apply a template (and it's EDD rules) to the
files when converting?
 

Vriendelijke groet,

Wim Hooghwinkel

Please note that I will be on holiday this summer between July 28 and
Agust 25 

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Re: conversion table and template

2008-07-16 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Wim,

The application of a conversion table can be scripted with FrameScript, so 
you could script the process of applying the conversion table then importing 
formats and element definitions.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


 Hi,

 I'm using a conversion tabel to convert a lot of unstructured files to 
 XML.
 Is there a way to automatically apply a template (and it's EDD rules) to 
 the
 files when converting?


 Vriendelijke groet,

 Wim Hooghwinkel

Please note that I will be on holiday this summer between July 28 and
 Agust 25 

Ik ben met vakantie van 28 juli tot 25 augustus

 Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in FrameMaker

 iDTP
 International DTP and Documentation Consultancy

 tel. +31652036811
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.idtp.eu

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RE: conversion table and template

2008-07-16 Thread Matt Sullivan
If memory serves, you can import both formats  EDD into the conversion
table to automatically apply both. If not, I'm sure I'll be corrected in a
matter of moments!

 

-Matt Sullivan

 

GRAFIX Training, Inc.

An Adobe Authorized Training Center

www.grafixtraining.com

888 882-2819 


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Subject: conversion table and template

Hi,
 
I'm using a conversion tabel to convert a lot of unstructured files to XML.
Is there a way to automatically apply a template (and it's EDD rules) to the
files when converting?
 

Vriendelijke groet,

Wim Hooghwinkel

Please note that I will be on holiday this summer between July 28 and
Agust 25 

Ik ben met vakantie van 28 juli tot 25 augustus

Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in FrameMaker

iDTP
International DTP and Documentation Consultancy
 
tel. +31652036811
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
www.idtp.eu
  

 
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RE: conversion table and template

2008-07-16 Thread Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp
Hi Rick,

That's what I thought; I was just wondering if it could be done using the
regular FM commands without scripting.

Thanks, 


Vriendelijke groet,

Wim Hooghwinkel

Please note that I will be on holiday this summer between July 28 and
Agust 25 

Ik ben met vakantie van 28 juli tot 25 augustus

Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in FrameMaker

iDTP
International DTP and Documentation Consultancy
 
tel. +31652036811
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
www.idtp.eu
  


-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Rick Quatro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Verzonden: woensdag 16 juli 2008 16:01
Aan: Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Onderwerp: Re: conversion table and template

Hi Wim,

The application of a conversion table can be scripted with FrameScript, so
you could script the process of applying the conversion table then importing
formats and element definitions.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


 Hi,

 I'm using a conversion tabel to convert a lot of unstructured files to 
 XML.
 Is there a way to automatically apply a template (and it's EDD rules) 
 to the files when converting?


 Vriendelijke groet,

 Wim Hooghwinkel

Please note that I will be on holiday this summer between July 28 and
 Agust 25 

Ik ben met vakantie van 28 juli tot 25 augustus

 Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in FrameMaker

 iDTP
 International DTP and Documentation Consultancy

 tel. +31652036811
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.idtp.eu

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Re: conversion table and template

2008-07-16 Thread Rene Stephenson
Hi Wim,

Rick Quatro sells a FrameScript solution called FindChangeSpecialBatch.fsl that 
I have found extremely helpful for remapping countless FM catalogs in docs to 
what's in newer templates. You create a mapping table, and you can run the 
script from the book level. This is particularly powerful if you can create 
books for maintenance purposes that group like kinds of FM files from multiple 
books. You can save the mapping table, or multiple flavors and iterations of 
mapping tables, and select which way to remap any given book, and it only takes 
a minute or so to run the script.

My 2¢EU

 
Rene L. Stephenson




- Original Message 
From: Rick Quatro [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The application of a conversion table can be scripted with FrameScript, so 
you could script the process of applying the conversion table then importing 
formats and element definitions.

 Hi,

 I'm using a conversion tabel to convert a lot of unstructured files to 
 XML.
 Is there a way to automatically apply a template (and it's EDD rules) to 
 the
 files when converting?


 Vriendelijke groet,

 Wim Hooghwinkel

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conversion table and template

2008-07-16 Thread Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp
Hi,

I'm using a conversion tabel to convert a lot of unstructured files to XML.
Is there a way to automatically apply a template (and it's EDD rules) to the
files when converting?


Vriendelijke groet,

Wim Hooghwinkel

>>Please note that I will be on holiday this summer between July 28 and
Agust 25 <<

>>Ik ben met vakantie van 28 juli tot 25 augustus<<

Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in FrameMaker

iDTP
International DTP and Documentation Consultancy

tel. +31652036811
  info at idtp.eu 
www.idtp.eu





conversion table and template

2008-07-16 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Wim,

The application of a conversion table can be scripted with FrameScript, so 
you could script the process of applying the conversion table then importing 
formats and element definitions.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


> Hi,
>
> I'm using a conversion tabel to convert a lot of unstructured files to 
> XML.
> Is there a way to automatically apply a template (and it's EDD rules) to 
> the
> files when converting?
>
>
> Vriendelijke groet,
>
> Wim Hooghwinkel
>
>>>Please note that I will be on holiday this summer between July 28 and
> Agust 25 <<
>
>>>Ik ben met vakantie van 28 juli tot 25 augustus<<
>
> Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in FrameMaker
>
> iDTP
> International DTP and Documentation Consultancy
>
> tel. +31652036811
>  info at idtp.eu
> www.idtp.eu



conversion table and template

2008-07-16 Thread Matt Sullivan
If memory serves, you can import both formats & EDD into the conversion
table to automatically apply both. If not, I'm sure I'll be corrected in a
matter of moments!



-Matt Sullivan



GRAFIX Training, Inc.

An Adobe Authorized Training Center

www.grafixtraining.com

888 882-2819 


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Wim Hooghwinkel -
idtp
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 12:24 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: conversion table and template

Hi,

I'm using a conversion tabel to convert a lot of unstructured files to XML.
Is there a way to automatically apply a template (and it's EDD rules) to the
files when converting?


Vriendelijke groet,

Wim Hooghwinkel

>>Please note that I will be on holiday this summer between July 28 and
Agust 25 <<

>>Ik ben met vakantie van 28 juli tot 25 augustus<<

Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in FrameMaker

iDTP
International DTP and Documentation Consultancy

tel. +31652036811
 <mailto:info at idtp.eu> info at idtp.eu 
www.idtp.eu



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conversion table and template

2008-07-16 Thread Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp
Hi Rick,

That's what I thought; I was just wondering if it could be done using the
regular FM commands without scripting.

Thanks, 


Vriendelijke groet,

Wim Hooghwinkel

>>Please note that I will be on holiday this summer between July 28 and
Agust 25 <<

>>Ik ben met vakantie van 28 juli tot 25 augustus<<

Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in FrameMaker

iDTP
International DTP and Documentation Consultancy

tel. +31652036811
info at idtp.eu 
www.idtp.eu



-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Rick Quatro [mailto:frameexpert at truevine.net] 
Verzonden: woensdag 16 juli 2008 16:01
Aan: Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Onderwerp: Re: conversion table and template

Hi Wim,

The application of a conversion table can be scripted with FrameScript, so
you could script the process of applying the conversion table then importing
formats and element definitions.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


> Hi,
>
> I'm using a conversion tabel to convert a lot of unstructured files to 
> XML.
> Is there a way to automatically apply a template (and it's EDD rules) 
> to the files when converting?
>
>
> Vriendelijke groet,
>
> Wim Hooghwinkel
>
>>>Please note that I will be on holiday this summer between July 28 and
> Agust 25 <<
>
>>>Ik ben met vakantie van 28 juli tot 25 augustus<<
>
> Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in FrameMaker
>
> iDTP
> International DTP and Documentation Consultancy
>
> tel. +31652036811
> <mailto:info at idtp.eu> info at idtp.eu
> www.idtp.eu



conversion table and template

2008-07-16 Thread Rene Stephenson
Hi Wim,

Rick Quatro sells a FrameScript solution called FindChangeSpecialBatch.fsl that 
I have found extremely helpful for remapping countless FM catalogs in docs to 
what's in newer templates. You create a mapping table, and you can run the 
script from the book level. This is particularly powerful if you can create 
books for maintenance purposes that group like kinds of FM files from multiple 
books. You can save the mapping table, or multiple flavors and iterations of 
mapping tables, and select which way to remap any given book, and it only takes 
a minute or so to run the script.

My 2?EU


Rene L. Stephenson




- Original Message 
From: Rick Quatro 

The application of a conversion table can be scripted with FrameScript, so 
you could script the process of applying the conversion table then importing 
formats and element definitions.

> Hi,
>
> I'm using a conversion tabel to convert a lot of unstructured files to 
> XML.
> Is there a way to automatically apply a template (and it's EDD rules) to 
> the
> files when converting?
>
>
> Vriendelijke groet,
>
> Wim Hooghwinkel
>