section/no section number TOC
Hi All, I'm working on a template and the user wants the option of NOT using section numbers on some chapters and in the TOC. I've created master pages to accomodate the section/no section requirements. Currently, the TOC styles are tied to paragraph tags (H-1, H-2, H-3) and those paragraph tags are formatted on the reference page with chapnums-pagenum. How can I get the same heading style (H-1, H-2, H-3) to generate without a section number? I'm sure there must be an way to accomplish my goals but the solution escapes me... As always, any help is appreciated! Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC content management solutions www.clearpath.cc 414-331-1378 (cell) Director, Marketing Communications Content Management Professionals www.cmprofessionals.org ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: section/no section number TOC
Mollye Barrett wrote: I'm working on a template and the user wants the option of NOT using section numbers on some chapters and in the TOC. I've created master pages to accomodate the section/no section requirements. Currently, the TOC styles are tied to paragraph tags (H-1, H-2, H-3) and those paragraph tags are formatted on the reference page with chapnums-pagenum. How can I get the same heading style (H-1, H-2, H-3) to generate without a section number? TOC entries are always generated from specific pgf tags, and all the TOC entries from a given pgf tag (like H-1) will look the same, as defined in the reference page TOC specification. So you need new heading pgf tags (e.g., H-1A, H-2A) -- not necessarily defined to look different or not have numbers (although I can't imagine why your user would want all headings numbered, but only some of the numbers to appear in the TOC), but just so you can define a different TOC spec for each of those pgfs. So on the TOC ref page, H-1TOC might look like this (\t is a tab): $paranum \t$paratext \t$pagenum But H-1ATOC might look like this: \t$paratext \t$pagenum Note that it doesn't matter whether H-1A has an autonumber or not -- in the TOC spec, you're telling FM not to display it even if it exists. All that said, I have to wonder about the wisdom of the whole idea... :-} Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: section/no section number TOC
Richard, I wasn't clear enough in my situation explaination... Every book has multiple sections. The front matter and the TOC need to display without section numbers and all other chapters in the book to display with section numbers. The front matter needs to appear in the TOC without a section number. I don't want additional paragraph styles, just the ability to hide the section number. I, too, question the wisdom but this is a client request...not my idea. I'm trying conditional text right now but don't think it will work at the book level. Still scratching my head, Mollye Quoting Combs, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mollye Barrett wrote: I'm working on a template and the user wants the option of NOT using section numbers on some chapters and in the TOC. I've created master pages to accomodate the section/no section requirements. Currently, the TOC styles are tied to paragraph tags (H-1, H-2, H-3) and those paragraph tags are formatted on the reference page with chapnums-pagenum. How can I get the same heading style (H-1, H-2, H-3) to generate without a section number? TOC entries are always generated from specific pgf tags, and all the TOC entries from a given pgf tag (like H-1) will look the same, as defined in the reference page TOC specification. So you need new heading pgf tags (e.g., H-1A, H-2A) -- not necessarily defined to look different or not have numbers (although I can't imagine why your user would want all headings numbered, but only some of the numbers to appear in the TOC), but just so you can define a different TOC spec for each of those pgfs. So on the TOC ref page, H-1TOC might look like this (\t is a tab): $paranum \t$paratext \t$pagenum But H-1ATOC might look like this: \t$paratext \t$pagenum Note that it doesn't matter whether H-1A has an autonumber or not -- in the TOC spec, you're telling FM not to display it even if it exists. All that said, I have to wonder about the wisdom of the whole idea... :-} Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ** To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** ** with unsubscribe framers (no quotes) in the body. ** ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: section/no section number TOC
Mollye Barrett wrote: Richard, I wasn't clear enough in my situation explaination... Every book has multiple sections. The front matter and the TOC need to display without section numbers and all other chapters in the book to display with section numbers. The front matter needs to appear in the TOC without a section number. I don't want additional paragraph styles, just the ability to hide the section number. Maybe I wasn't clear enough in my response. You can *only* do what you want with additional pgf formats. At least, you can *only* do it *properly* that way. Why don't you want to do that? How many formats could you be talking about if it's just for your frontmatter (I assume that's a preface/intro section preceding Ch. 1). How many heading levels should you really have in frontmatter? Not many, IMHO. I, and I suspect many template designers, have specific pgf formats that are only used in frontmatter, not chapter files. This isn't unusual (or difficult). I suggest you stop trying to fight the only approach that makes sense. If you had created the necessary 2 or 3 pgf formats, added them to the TOC, and modified the TOC spec accordingly, you'd be done by now. Mucking about with conditional text, which won't solve your problem, is just wasting time. Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: section/no section number TOC
Another solution, that still use an additional pgf format, is to divide the section headings in two pgfs - a section number pgf and a section title pgf. Then, in the front matter, only the section title is used. This solution is normally used to resolve some design requirement: position or format of the numbers. Furia Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:03:31 -0600, Combs, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Mollye Barrett wrote: Richard, I wasn't clear enough in my situation explaination... Every book has multiple sections. The front matter and the TOC need to display without section numbers and all other chapters in the book to display with section numbers. The front matter needs to appear in the TOC without a section number. I don't want additional paragraph styles, just the ability to hide the section number. Maybe I wasn't clear enough in my response. You can *only* do what you want with additional pgf formats. At least, you can *only* do it *properly* that way. Why don't you want to do that? How many formats could you be talking about if it's just for your frontmatter (I assume that's a preface/intro section preceding Ch. 1). How many heading levels should you really have in frontmatter? Not many, IMHO. I, and I suspect many template designers, have specific pgf formats that are only used in frontmatter, not chapter files. This isn't unusual (or difficult). I suggest you stop trying to fight the only approach that makes sense. If you had created the necessary 2 or 3 pgf formats, added them to the TOC, and modified the TOC spec accordingly, you'd be done by now. Mucking about with conditional text, which won't solve your problem, is just wasting time. Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ** To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** ** with unsubscribe framers (no quotes) in the body. ** ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
section/no section number TOC
Hi All, I'm working on a template?and the user wants the option of NOT using section numbers on some chapters and in the TOC. I've created master pages to accomodate the section/no section requirements. Currently, the TOC styles are tied to paragraph tags (H-1, H-2, H-3) and those paragraph tags are formatted on the reference page with chapnums-pagenum. How can I get the same heading style (H-1, H-2, H-3) to generate without a section number? I'm sure there must be an way to accomplish my goals but the solution escapes me... As always, any help is appreciated! Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC content management solutions www.clearpath.cc 414-331-1378 (cell) Director, Marketing Communications Content Management Professionals www.cmprofessionals.org
section/no section number TOC
Mollye Barrett wrote:
>I'm working on a template?and the user wants the option of NOT
> using section numbers on some chapters and in the TOC. I've created
> master pages to accomodate the section/no section requirements.
> Currently, the TOC styles are tied to paragraph tags (H-1, H-2, H-3)
> and those paragraph tags are formatted on the reference page with
> chapnums-pagenum. How can I get the same heading style (H-1, H-2, H-3)
> to generate without a section number?
TOC entries are always generated from specific pgf tags, and all the TOC
entries from a given pgf tag (like H-1) will look the same, as defined in the
reference page TOC specification.
So you need new heading pgf tags (e.g., H-1A, H-2A) -- not necessarily defined
to look different or not have numbers (although I can't imagine why your user
would want all headings numbered, but only some of the numbers to appear in the
TOC), but just so you can define a different TOC spec for each of those pgfs.
So on the TOC ref page, H-1TOC might look like this ("\t" is a tab):
<$paranum> \t<$paratext> \t<$pagenum>
But H-1ATOC might look like this:
\t<$paratext> \t<$pagenum>
Note that it doesn't matter whether H-1A has an autonumber or not -- in the TOC
spec, you're telling FM not to display it even if it exists.
All that said, I have to wonder about the wisdom of the whole idea... :-}
Richard
Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-777-0436
--
section/no section number TOC
Richard,
I wasn't clear enough in my situation explaination...
Every book has multiple sections.?The front matter and the TOC need
to display without section numbers and all other chapters in the book
to display with section numbers. The front matter needs to appear in
the TOC without a section number.?I don't want additional paragraph
styles, just the ability to "hide" the section number.
I, too, question the wisdom but this is a client request...not my
idea. I'm trying conditional text right now but don't think it will
work at the book level.
Still scratching my head,
Mollye
Quoting "Combs, Richard" :
> Mollye Barrett wrote:
>
>> ? ? I'm working on a template?and the user wants the option of NOT
>> using section numbers on some chapters and in the TOC. I've created
>> master pages to accomodate the section/no section requirements.
>> Currently, the TOC styles are tied to paragraph tags (H-1, H-2, H-3)
>> and those paragraph tags are formatted on the reference page with
>> chapnums-pagenum. How can I get the same heading style (H-1, H-2, H-3)
>> to generate without a section number?
>
> TOC entries are always generated from specific pgf tags, and all
> the? TOC entries from a given pgf tag (like H-1) will look the same,
> as? defined in the reference page TOC specification.
>
> So you need new heading pgf tags (e.g., H-1A, H-2A) -- not?
> necessarily defined to look different or not have numbers (although?
> I can't imagine why your user would want all headings numbered, but?
> only some of the numbers to appear in the TOC), but just so you can?
> define a different TOC spec for each of those pgfs.
>
> So on the TOC ref page, H-1TOC might look like this ("\t" is a tab):
>
> <$paranum> \t<$paratext> \t<$pagenum>
>
> But H-1ATOC might look like this:
>
> \t<$paratext> \t<$pagenum>
>
> Note that it doesn't matter whether H-1A has an autonumber or not
> --? in the TOC spec, you're telling FM not to display it even if it?
> exists.
>
> All that said, I have to wonder about the wisdom of the whole idea... :-}
>
> Richard
>
>
> Richard G. Combs
> Senior Technical Writer
> Polycom, Inc.
> richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
> 303-223-5111
> --
> rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
> 303-777-0436
> --
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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section/no section number TOC
Mollye Barrett wrote: > Richard, > I wasn't clear enough in my situation explaination... > Every book has multiple sections.?The front matter and the TOC need to > display without section numbers and all other chapters in the book to > display with section numbers. The front matter needs to appear in the TOC > without a section number.?I don't want additional paragraph styles, just > the ability to "hide" the section number. Maybe I wasn't clear enough in my response. You can *only* do what you want with additional pgf formats. At least, you can *only* do it *properly* that way. Why don't you want to do that? How many formats could you be talking about if it's just for your frontmatter (I assume that's a preface/intro section preceding Ch. 1). How many heading levels should you really have in frontmatter? Not many, IMHO. I, and I suspect many template designers, have specific pgf formats that are only used in frontmatter, not chapter files. This isn't unusual (or difficult). I suggest you stop trying to fight the only approach that makes sense. If you had created the necessary 2 or 3 pgf formats, added them to the TOC, and modified the TOC spec accordingly, you'd be done by now. Mucking about with conditional text, which won't solve your problem, is just wasting time. Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 --
section/no section number TOC
Another solution, that still use an additional pgf format, is to divide the section headings in two pgfs - a section number pgf and a section title pgf. Then, in the front matter, only the section title is used. This solution is normally used to resolve some design requirement: position or format of the numbers. Furia Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:03:31 -0600, "Combs, Richard" escreveu: > Mollye Barrett wrote: > > > Richard, > > I wasn't clear enough in my situation explaination... > > Every book has multiple sections. The front matter and the TOC need to > > display without section numbers and all other chapters in the book to > > display with section numbers. The front matter needs to appear in the TOC > > without a section number. I don't want additional paragraph styles, just > > the ability to "hide" the section number. > > Maybe I wasn't clear enough in my response. You can *only* do what you want > with additional pgf formats. At least, you can *only* do it *properly* that > way. > > Why don't you want to do that? How many formats could you be talking about if > it's just for your frontmatter (I assume that's a preface/intro section > preceding Ch. 1). How many heading levels should you really have in > frontmatter? Not many, IMHO. > > I, and I suspect many template designers, have specific pgf formats that are > only used in frontmatter, not chapter files. This isn't unusual (or > difficult). > > I suggest you stop trying to fight the only approach that makes sense. If you > had created the necessary 2 or 3 pgf formats, added them to the TOC, and > modified the TOC spec accordingly, you'd be done by now. Mucking about with > conditional text, which won't solve your problem, is just wasting time. > > Richard > > > Richard G. Combs > Senior Technical Writer > Polycom, Inc. > richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom > 303-223-5111 > -- > rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom > 303-777-0436 > -- > > > > > > > > > ** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo at omsys.com ** > ** with "unsubscribe framers" (no quotes) in the body. ** > > > >
